Guest guest Posted August 19, 2000 Report Share Posted August 19, 2000 Dear Friends, I used to have the list. If you contact someone working in mental health or social work, there terms are what Medicaid pays for services. For assistance, one can't state they are transporting a person to the doctor, but you can state that you worked with the client developing their interpersonal and advocacy skills when they meet with their doctor. That time of transporting the client then becomes billable hours. I will try and access the list and send it by Monday. In light- Sandy Y. Mathieson Bronwen E Stimpert <BronwenS Saturday, August 19, 2000 10:03 AM Expert Sites >Janie asked: " ... I know somewhere I have seen a list of terms that are > " owned " by >the AMA and that we cannot use. Can anyone help me out with where I >might >find that list of terms? " > >Nope, I don't know. But if no one else on this list has the answer, you >might consider asking this question at an expert site. Many are free. >I've used and like http://www.allexperts.com. recommends >http://www.askme.com as best overall free ask-a site, and >http://www.vrd.org/locator as best directory of expert sites. > >Best wishes, >Bronwen > > > > > > >**************************************** >Visit the community page: >For administrative problems contact: -owner > - > >All messages, files and archives of this forum are copyright of the group >and the individual authors. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2000 Report Share Posted August 21, 2000 Thanks Liz, Sandy and Bronwen, for your help. Unfortunately, the expert at allexperts.com didn't have an answer either. She just said I could use any terminology as long as I didn't diagnose or identify myself as an MD. But I do recall seeing a list, e.g.: cannot use word diagnose, but might use " have impression " , cannot use word prescribe, but might say " something I personally use " , cannot use word treat, but might use " help or facilitate " I just remember seeing quite a few more. I'm not interested in the words for billing purposes, more along the lines of scanning/medical intuition work. I will keep searching and hope that it's not in one of those 500+ books on the shelf :^) Sandy Mathieson wrote: > Dear Friends, I used to have the list. schiemer wrote: > I cannot help except to suggest that the way to frame the question might > be to ask which medical conditions are restricted to treatment by medical > practioners? -- Janie Walk softly, Live gently ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Usui Reiki and Seichem Classes In person - New Jersey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2000 Report Share Posted August 22, 2000 Hi Jane and Sandy et al: I'm new to this group but have the same problem with my clients. I'm a Psychotherapist and trainer in N.L.P./Hypnotherapist and work with a Vegatest device which determines which organs are the most stressed at a Bio-Energetic level, before showing up at a clinical one. I also work with a Vega M.R.T. Matrix Regeneration Therapy, and a well known Spanish cancer cooking device as well as a Rife device. The M.R.T. is a modern day version of a Chinese cupping device and is very effective in not only removing toxins through the skin but also re-activating blocked lymph glands. So, I do the Spiritual, Psychological, Bio-Energetic work and refer my clients to my associate who is a D.O. Homeopath, Acupuncturist, Neural Therapist. Neural Therapy is the direct injection of homeopathic remedies into the afflicted organs. D.O.s are better at this than Md.'s as they have a much better knowledge of the human anatomy having spent a full year studying it compared to an Md.'s mere six months. I decided to reduce my legal exposure by becoming a Minister. Then I've used those phrases and I offer several others as follows: 1. Instead of diagnose use, " You might have a problem in this area, " or " This organ/system seems stressed. " 2. Instead of prescribe use, " Others with a similar problem/stressed organ have used ---with a modicum of success, " or " " ... with a reduction of the problem/stress. " 3. Instead of treat use, " You can learn to put your body/mind/spirit back into balance by... " or " I can teach you/ help you learn to take even better care of yourself by.... " Let me know if this is of some help. David Jane Berrigan wrote: > Thanks Liz, Sandy and Bronwen, for your help. Unfortunately, the expert at > allexperts.com didn't have an answer either. She just said I could use any > terminology as long as I didn't diagnose or identify myself as an MD. > > But I do recall seeing a list, e.g.: > cannot use word diagnose, but might use " have impression " , > cannot use word prescribe, but might say " something I personally use " , > cannot use word treat, but might use " help or facilitate " > I just remember seeing quite a few more. > > Sandy Mathieson wrote: > > Dear Friends, I used to have the list. > > schiemer wrote: > > I cannot help except to suggest that the way to frame the question might > be to ask which medical conditions are restricted to treatment by medical > > practioners? > > Janie > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2000 Report Share Posted August 22, 2000 I suspect that part of the problem might be that it varies from state to state. For instance, here at an Illinois massage therapy school, I was taught that we can legally describe a conditon, but that we can't name it. We do treat conditions, either named (diagnosed) or not. Prescribing or reccomending is trickier. We were told that we could say that we or someone we know uses something and describe that results, but it seems to me like walking close to the line. Personally, I prefer to refer people who need nutritional or herbal work. But, that's just me. Ray >Jane Berrigan <reikiskhm > > >Re: Re: terms not to use >Mon, 21 Aug 2000 14:29:39 -0400 > >Thanks Liz, Sandy and Bronwen, for your help. Unfortunately, the expert at >allexperts.com didn't have an answer either. She just said I could use any >terminology as long as I didn't diagnose or identify myself as an MD. > >But I do recall seeing a list, e.g.: >cannot use word diagnose, but might use " have impression " , >cannot use word prescribe, but might say " something I personally use " , >cannot use word treat, but might use " help or facilitate " >I just remember seeing quite a few more. > >I'm not interested in the words for billing purposes, more along the lines >of scanning/medical intuition work. I will keep searching and hope that >it's not in one of those 500+ books on the shelf :^) > > >Sandy Mathieson wrote: > > Dear Friends, I used to have the list. > >schiemer wrote: > > I cannot help except to suggest that the way to frame the question might > > be to ask which medical conditions are restricted to treatment by >medical > > practioners? > > >-- >Janie >Walk softly, Live gently >~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ >Usui Reiki and Seichem Classes >In person - New Jersey > ______________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2000 Report Share Posted August 22, 2000 Hi Jane: I will ask your question over at the bodywork list I moderate and see if someone there knows the answer. We have a couple of lawyers on board there and one might have the terms. Crow Jane Berrigan wrote: > Thanks Liz, Sandy and Bronwen, for your help. Unfortunately, the expert at > allexperts.com didn't have an answer either. She just said I could use any > terminology as long as I didn't diagnose or identify myself as an MD. > > But I do recall seeing a list, e.g.: > cannot use word diagnose, but might use " have impression " , > cannot use word prescribe, but might say " something I personally use " , > cannot use word treat, but might use " help or facilitate " > I just remember seeing quite a few more. > > I'm not interested in the words for billing purposes, more along the lines > of scanning/medical intuition work. I will keep searching and hope that > it's not in one of those 500+ books on the shelf :^) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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