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Hello to all,

I have been a long time closet lurker which has appreciated being able to

periodically read threads of interest to me. I have something that I

would like to throw out to the list that I have been noticing within my

own practice and was wondering if anybody out there has similiar

experiences. One thing that I have noticed lately is that I have a

tendency to massage the left and right side of my clients differently (not

sure how to describe the difference just know from a felt sense that I

do). I also have a client that I start working on her right leg (while

prone) and then am pulled to " ignore " or " overlook " her left leg and start

on her back right away. Has anyone else had this type of experience? I

have done some reading on left/right splits, masculine vs. feminine sides

and have a personal belief system that there needs to be a balance between

the two but to actually experience what I have read is fascinating. I

guess just reaching out to validate my experience somehow. THanks.

 

Kim Boyes - Tzu Touch Massage Therapy and Somatic Practice

" We are Spiritual Beings Having Human Experiences "

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Spirit speaks in mysterious ways....

 

Just last week I had a client who was definitely unbalanced left v. right (I do

Healing

Touch energy work). In trying to describe what I was feeling to her, I started

getting

confused by the many different things that I've read and heard....

Left = feminine energy Right = masculine energy

Left = receiving energy Right = giving energy

 

I equate giving with feminine energy and recieving as a masculine energy thus,

the

confusion. Can someone clarify this for me?

 

spiritz wrote:

 

> spiritz

>

> Hello to all,

> I have been a long time closet lurker which has appreciated being able to

> periodically read threads of interest to me. I have something that I

> would like to throw out to the list that I have been noticing within my

> own practice and was wondering if anybody out there has similiar

> experiences. One thing that I have noticed lately is that I have a

> tendency to massage the left and right side of my clients differently (not

> sure how to describe the difference just know from a felt sense that I

> do). I also have a client that I start working on her right leg (while

> prone) and then am pulled to " ignore " or " overlook " her left leg and start

> on her back right away. Has anyone else had this type of experience? I

> have done some reading on left/right splits, masculine vs. feminine sides

> and have a personal belief system that there needs to be a balance between

> the two but to actually experience what I have read is fascinating. I

> guess just reaching out to validate my experience somehow. THanks.

>

> Kim Boyes - Tzu Touch Massage Therapy and Somatic Practice

> " We are Spiritual Beings Having Human Experiences "

> spiritz

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Deborah:

 

This is a lot easier than you might imagine. If you stop seeing the

sides as woman and man, instead seeing them as yin and yang, this may

be helpful to you. Look at yin as " feminine " or receptive energy. The

female is the sexual receptacle, the mortar, the yoni. Look at yang as

the " masculine " or assertive energy. The male is the sexual provider,

the pestle, the lingam. Receiving does not equal taking, and giving

does not equal generosity, in this case.

 

As to sides, left side of the body is controlled primarily by the

right brain, the creative, artistic portion, while the right side of

the body is controlled primarily by the left brain, the more

analytical portion. If you deal with stroke patients, you can tell

which side of the brain was affected by which side of the person is

affected by weakness, drooping, or paralysis (as well as cognitive

signals such as communication and memory).

 

In the yin-yang symbol, each energy contains an " eye " of the other for

balance. I see the idea of females as giving and males as taking is a

generality of the sort I like to avoid. It is the balance of

receptivity and assertiveness that is imbalanced in many individuals

of either sex. Perhaps we should be thinking more of maturity than

sex; for instance, a young boy may be more giving in nature than an

adult woman. Does this make him less masculine, or her less feminine?

Our hormones are only one source of our social and ethical behavior; a

lot has to do with socialization and environment. But that " nature v.

nurture " argument can wait until another time...

 

I hope that clarifies left and right for you :-)

 

Deborah Cox wrote:

>

> Just last week I had a client who was definitely unbalanced left v. right (I

> do Healing

> Touch energy work). In trying to describe what I was feeling to her, I

> started getting

> confused by the many different things that I've read and heard....

> Left = feminine energy Right = masculine energy

> Left = receiving energy Right = giving energy

>

> I equate giving with feminine energy and recieving as a masculine energy

> thus, the

> confusion. Can someone clarify this for me?

>

--

Blessings,

Crow

" Look for Rainbows in the Darkness "

--

Rev. Caroline Gutierrez Abreu, BS, RN, CHTP/I, CRMT, CH

 

" When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this

sign,

that the dunces are all in confederacy against him. "

-- Jonathan Swift

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Thanks, Caroline for replying so fast. So if this client continues to distort

the energy

so she is deficient on the left, that would mean she's not being receptive to

the

universe?

 

Caroline Abreu wrote:

 

> Caroline Abreu <crow

>

> Deborah:

>

> This is a lot easier than you might imagine. If you stop seeing the

> sides as woman and man, instead seeing them as yin and yang, this may

> be helpful to you. Look at yin as " feminine " or receptive energy. The

> female is the sexual receptacle, the mortar, the yoni. Look at yang as

> the " masculine " or assertive energy. The male is the sexual provider,

> the pestle, the lingam. Receiving does not equal taking, and giving

> does not equal generosity, in this case.

>

> As to sides, left side of the body is controlled primarily by the

> right brain, the creative, artistic portion, while the right side of

> the body is controlled primarily by the left brain, the more

> analytical portion. If you deal with stroke patients, you can tell

> which side of the brain was affected by which side of the person is

> affected by weakness, drooping, or paralysis (as well as cognitive

> signals such as communication and memory).

>

> In the yin-yang symbol, each energy contains an " eye " of the other for

> balance. I see the idea of females as giving and males as taking is a

> generality of the sort I like to avoid. It is the balance of

> receptivity and assertiveness that is imbalanced in many individuals

> of either sex. Perhaps we should be thinking more of maturity than

> sex; for instance, a young boy may be more giving in nature than an

> adult woman. Does this make him less masculine, or her less feminine?

> Our hormones are only one source of our social and ethical behavior; a

> lot has to do with socialization and environment. But that " nature v.

> nurture " argument can wait until another time...

>

> I hope that clarifies left and right for you :-)

>

> Deborah Cox wrote:

> >

> > Just last week I had a client who was definitely unbalanced left v. right (I

> > do Healing

> > Touch energy work). In trying to describe what I was feeling to her, I

> > started getting

> > confused by the many different things that I've read and heard....

> > Left = feminine energy Right = masculine energy

> > Left = receiving energy Right = giving energy

> >

> > I equate giving with feminine energy and recieving as a masculine energy

> > thus, the

> > confusion. Can someone clarify this for me?

> >

> --

> Blessings,

> Crow

> " Look for Rainbows in the Darkness "

> --

> Rev. Caroline Gutierrez Abreu, BS, RN, CHTP/I, CRMT, CH

>

> " When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this

> sign,

> that the dunces are all in confederacy against him. "

> -- Jonathan Swift

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Yup still here, just too busy to put as much time into email as I used

to.

 

Deborah wrote:

>Left = feminine energy Right = masculine energy

>Left = receiving energy Right = giving energy

 

>I equate giving with feminine energy and recieving as a masculine

energy thus, the

>confusion. Can someone clarify this for me?

 

Both genders give, it may be down to ability to receive.

 

Simple thought experiment - imagine someone hurt and upset, on the point

of tears. Now imagine giving them a hug

(a) if they're a woman.

(b) if they're a man.

People who've done a lot of self-development don't count ;)

 

It occurs to me also that it's possible that we're dealing with people

who *must* have perfection in themselves, who cannot deal with 'second

best', and we're biased toward one side of the body (most of us the

right) which would leave such people quietly despising the 'second best'

left hand side which I think history does bear out - didn't left handers

used to be seen as 'sub-standard'?

(what a bloody strange species this is sometimes...)

 

 

 

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> Deborah wrote:

> >Left = feminine energy Right = masculine energy

> >Left = receiving energy Right = giving energy

>

> >I equate giving with feminine energy and recieving as a masculine

> energy thus, the

> >confusion. Can someone clarify this for me?

 

Hi there,

 

just wanted to add a few thoughts about this right/stuff.

 

I couldn't get this thing of right/left, femenine/masculine, Yin/yang, or i

should rather say that i could, but it wasn't *it*. It was too simplistic.

Like action/inertia and period. Then 2 years ago i studied the Tarot with

some friends. There i was told that there was a structure behind it that

goes like this (i won't be using exact terminology because i don't remember

it, just my own actual concepts. Sorry):

 

The basic concept is on the 1-2-3 triad.

1 . The masculine force/energy. Outgoing. Centrifuge. " Naturing Nature "

2 . The femenine correspondence of the 1. Receiving. " Natured Nature " .

(As the " 1 " exists, or rather, in order to be able to exist, it needs to

project itself on something else. If that does not happen there is no

projection, so there is no " 1 " . So " 1 " can not exist without " 2 " . Nor " 2 "

without " 1 " (What would it be " receiving " ?))

3 . The outcome of the " 1 " and " 2 " interaction.

 

This goes on and on as this same structure aplies to the whole triad, so

that the 4-5-6 is like the " 2 " ( " reflection " ) of the 1-2-3, and the result

of both interacting is the 7, which serves as a new beginning for the 7-8-9

(which is like a " second version " of the first triad, on a diferent level),

which has its " counterpart " in the 10-11-12, and both then " do " the 13, and

so on...

 

My apologies if this is not that clear, but for the matter of this

discussion, the important point here is that the triad, the 1-2-3 with its

structure, is an archetype that is to be found everywhere. So, this is the

Father-Son-and Holy Spirit (as well as all(?) other triads to be found in

most religions), as well as, in a less abstract figure, most day to day

interactions, and very illustrative, the Father-Mother-Child. And that's

when i came to this interesant observation.

 

I always had considered the " Yin " / " Femenine " / " Left " /Whatever has PASIVE.

More and less like inert. Now, if you look at this everyday manifestation of

this " pasive " thingie in the mothers, you can see that this " pasivenes " is

not quite like that. Sure mothers are " pasive " in that they get inseminated

(by an " active " agent), sure they " receive " , but, (here's the point) how

passive is it to build a whole new being's body into your own??????? That si

pretty much activity, effort, work, will, and etc... and all these concepts

i was but seeing as " yang/masculine/active " ...

 

So, a bit of reflection on this helps get a broader, less simplistic

conception about this thing of left/right. You can then understand better

what this " femenine " (or " masculine " ) energy is about. " Passive Femenine

Receptive " isn't at all about being sitted there like a teapot on a shelf.

(That was pretty much my original concept, and it was hard to make it work

at all...). That energy flows, just like the other, works and acts; though

with a diferent " character " and " capability " . It is more able to " listen " ,

" receive " , " elaborate inside " , " asimilate " , etc... that is all **ACTION**,

though, that's it, this action is more oriented *toward* the inside, rather

than the outside. But it *is* action.

 

Wellll. That's it. Please take in account that all this was just about " how

to not misconcept the Yin " ;-) There is much more to consider, as Caroline

and others have been explaining.

 

I hope this have been of some help and interest to you Deborah, and others.

I'd be happy to be corrected or better oriented in these very interesant

subjects, if anyone may, please. (Someone must have something to say about

this Father-Mother-Child example! ;-)

 

Have a nice day everybody.

 

(Nice to see some activity on the list, though i must say the rest was good

also :)

 

Alain Gougeon

La Paz, Bolivia.

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Deborah:

 

I don't think I ever responded to your post :-( Sorry!

 

That might be a good assessment; another possibility is a resistance to

other feminine or receptive gifts or tendencies. It could be as simple

as a reluctance to appear " weak " or " dependent " .

 

She might work with self-esteem and nurturance, and the concept that

receiving does not indicate she cannot " take care " of herself.

 

Deborah Cox wrote:

>

> Deborah Cox <debicox

>

> Thanks, Caroline for replying so fast. So if this client continues to

> distort the energy

> so she is deficient on the left, that would mean she's not being receptive to

the universe?

>

> Caroline Abreu wrote:

>

> >

> > This is a lot easier than you might imagine. If you stop seeing the

> > sides as woman and man, instead seeing them as yin and yang, this may

> > be helpful to you. Look at yin as " feminine " or receptive energy. The

> > female is the sexual receptacle, the mortar, the yoni. Look at yang as

> > the " masculine " or assertive energy. The male is the sexual provider,

> > the pestle, the lingam. Receiving does not equal taking, and giving

> > does not equal generosity, in this case.

> >

> > As to sides, left side of the body is controlled primarily by the

> > right brain, the creative, artistic portion, while the right side of

> > the body is controlled primarily by the left brain, the more

> > analytical portion. If you deal with stroke patients, you can tell

> > which side of the brain was affected by which side of the person is

> > affected by weakness, drooping, or paralysis (as well as cognitive

> > signals such as communication and memory).

> >

> > In the yin-yang symbol, each energy contains an " eye " of the other for

> > balance. I see the idea of females as giving and males as taking is a

> > generality of the sort I like to avoid. It is the balance of

> > receptivity and assertiveness that is imbalanced in many individuals

> > of either sex. Perhaps we should be thinking more of maturity than

> > sex; for instance, a young boy may be more giving in nature than an

> > adult woman. Does this make him less masculine, or her less feminine?

> > Our hormones are only one source of our social and ethical behavior; a

> > lot has to do with socialization and environment. But that " nature v.

> > nurture " argument can wait until another time...

> >

> > I hope that clarifies left and right for you :-)

> >

> > Deborah Cox wrote:

> > >

> > > Just last week I had a client who was definitely unbalanced left v. right

> (I

> > > do Healing

> > > Touch energy work). In trying to describe what I was feeling to her, I

> > > started getting

> > > confused by the many different things that I've read and heard....

> > > Left = feminine energy Right = masculine energy

> > > Left = receiving energy Right = giving energy

> > >

> > > I equate giving with feminine energy and recieving as a masculine energy

> > > thus, the

> > > confusion. Can someone clarify this for me?

> > >

>

--

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Blessings,

Crow

" Look for Rainbows in the Darkness "

---

Rev. Caroline Gutierrez Abreu, BS, RN, CHTP/I, CRMT, CH

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Caroline,

Thanks for responding back. The client and I came to the conclusion that she

was looking for

acceptance (from someone outside herself). All this happened at last week's tx

(it was a

wonderful tx), so we'll see how well the energy holds. Thanks again for your

help.

 

Love and Light,

Debi

 

 

Caroline Abreu wrote:

 

> Caroline Abreu <crow

>

> Deborah:

>

> I don't think I ever responded to your post :-( Sorry!

>

> That might be a good assessment; another possibility is a resistance to

> other feminine or receptive gifts or tendencies. It could be as simple

> as a reluctance to appear " weak " or " dependent " .

>

> She might work with self-esteem and nurturance, and the concept that

> receiving does not indicate she cannot " take care " of herself.

>

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