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Dear Nina,

Glad to hear you remembered Dr. Myss's story of " The Peace Pilgrim "

incidence. However, remember the " Host " of energy that she " Shot " from

her 2nd Chakra to his as well, That is the important part.

Nina is right.

It's not folderol here everyone, It's all ENERGY. That's the whole

point.

Shirley Maclaine tells of a paradigm shift she created while having

her purse " stolen " off her on a New York " Street (Going Within, 1987),

She realised she has one moment to either become the " VICTIM or the

VICTOR " ..... Guess who won?

Namaste',

JimmiRae

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Tuesday, February 08, 2000 8:15 PM

acupuncture Digest Number 158

 

 

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> 1. RE: Master Tong's Acupuncture

> " JCarrion " <jcm00055

> 2. A case...

> " geovani " <inandor

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> Mon, 7 Feb 2000 00:18:46 +0100

> " JCarrion " <jcm00055

> RE: Master Tong's Acupuncture

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> Thanks a lot Josie.

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> Sunday, February 06, 2000 6:39 PM

> RE: acupuncture Master Tong's Acupuncture

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> JoEllen Donahue Hermes <hermes

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> At 09:30 AM 2/6/00 -0800, you wrote:

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> >At 04:01 PM 2/6/00 +0100, you wrote:

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> >> Hand points for hepatitis good results? Thanks a lot... anyway,

what

> >>points? Korean hand acupuncture or chinese hand acupoints? Could you

> >>explain which ones? Thanks a lot. Josep. ----- Original

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> >I was referring to the hand points for hepatitus as shown in the

" Master

> >Tong's Acupuncture " text. specifically the set of 5 points that line

the

> >middle segment of the thumb. There were also 2 pts on middle segment of

the

> >finger next to the pinky. I had a patient whose severe pain and

discomfort

> >made it difficult to use various pts. In this case I used the hand pts

> >mentioned and the patient reported feeling alot better.

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> I dont think I explained it clearly enough in the last msg. the patient

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> was describing had great discomfort that made it difficult to use body

> points on him . For this patient the hand points allowed me to treat him

> without further inconvenience and discomfort.

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> Josie

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> >ello everyone!

> >>>I have been studying Miriam Lee's book " Master Tong's

> >>>Acupuncture " . It is unlike most of what was taught in

> >>>TCM. Yet, I have noticed some parallels with this style

> >>>and other Taiwanese practitioners e.g. Dr. Kuen Tsay.

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> >>>Does anybody have clinical experience:good or bad?

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> " geovani " <inandor

> A case...

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> geovani+AD4- A friend of mine has the following cronic simtoms:

> Pain in the left wrist, left hip joint, left shoulder, left knee

(+ACEAIQ-)

> Sometimes headakes, exclusively on the right side, above the

> right eyebrow.

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> I remember vagely about points that deal with the right/left

> equilibrium - not sure which though. I am aware that a deeper

> avaliation should be done to any case, but the particular

> distribuition of this persons pains cought my curiosity.

> Any ideias, some possibilities, concerning such one sided case?

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> thanks

Re your case Geovani, without a full case history. Try a symptomatic

approach like GB34 bilaterally, could also need to visit a good

chiropractor. This is not a good way to treat you need to take a good case

history and a knowledge of the 8 conditions would be very useful to diagnose

your friend. Good luck,

by the way how did you get on with St 36? Murray.

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geovani+AD4- A friend of mine has the following cronic simtoms:

Pain in the left wrist, left hip joint, left shoulder, left knee

(+ACEAIQ-)

Sometimes headakes, exclusively on the right side, above the

right eyebrow.

 

I remember vagely about points that deal with the right/left

equilibrium - not sure which though. I am aware that a deeper

avaliation should be done to any case, but the particular

distribuition of this persons pains cought my curiosity.

Any ideias, some possibilities, concerning such one sided case?

thanks

 

 

 

Re your case Geovani, without a full case history. Try a symptomatic

approach like GB34 bilaterally, could also need to visit a good

chiropractor. This is not a good way to treat you need to take a good case

history and a knowledge of the 8 conditions would be very useful to diagnose

your friend. Good luck,

by the way how did you get on with St 36? Murray.

 

 

geovani+AD4- Thanks Murray. I am perfectly aware that I am not

+ACI-looking+ACI- into this case in profundity. I am not going to treat

this person - only maybe, try some massage. But still, I somehow

remember the mention of points that have do do with right/left

equilibrium - I'll look it up. In homeopathy we cal some peculiar

simptoms as +ACI-little big simptoms+ACI- - for they lead rapidly and with

certainty to the right remedy. I was just wondering if this unilateral

manifestation would not be such a case (by analogy).

Thanks for mentioning VB34 - seems such an important point+ACEAIQAhACEAIQ-

Funny how these points around the knees are meaningfull.

BTW, if one presses these points around the knees, one feels

a very +ACI-deep+ACI- sensation in the body. Probably this is why

they are the +ACI-sea points+ACI- - where qi dives deeply in the organism.

 

About St-36. I am glad that I took notice of this important point+ACE-

I have tried several approuches to localise it exactly, but have not

found the +ACI-river+ACI- - yet :+AF4-) Not given up though. St-36 seems to

be

localized in a region that is found close to where the Tibia turns

outward, but someone mentioned that it is not larger then 3mm

in diameter (is that correct - twice a pinhead?), then one must be

extra-carefull in finding it. I tried to run my fingers up and down

with the tip touching the Tibia looking for the +ACI-river+ACI- - had no success

so far.

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Geovani says:

 

>BTW, if one presses these points around the knees, one feels

>a very +ACI-deep+ACI- sensation in the body. Probably this is why

>they are the +ACI-sea points+ACI- - where qi dives deeply in the organism.

>

>About St-36. I am glad that I took notice of this important point+ACE-

>I have tried several approuches to localise it exactly, but have not

>found the +ACI-river+ACI- - yet :+AF4-) Not given up though. St-36

>seems to be

>localized in a region that is found close to where the Tibia turns

>outward, but someone mentioned that it is not larger then 3mm

>in diameter (is that correct - twice a pinhead?), then one must be

>extra-carefull in finding it. I tried to run my fingers up and down

>with the tip touching the Tibia looking for the +ACI-river+ACI- - had no

>success

>so far.

 

I say:

 

Geovani-- Guess what? If, as you say, you have felt a deep sensation in

the body when you pressed on the point.... then you found it correctly!!

I think that you are making it harder on yourself. Stomach 36 is pretty

easy to find. It is not some secret mysterious point. Give yourself

some credit. As you gain more experience in acupuncture, you may one day

discover that you can locate points in a more precise way, but for now,

you are doing great.

 

Greg

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