saturn return...

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hi guys, i know i'm generally a quiet lurker here. i am curious as to

whether anyone here has somewhat in depth commentary on what saturn

return is all about and how to figure out when exactly it's happening

and how long it lasts. i am coming up on the last birthday of my 20's

thank gawd and people keep looking at me with this knowing look and

saying " ooooh you are in your saturn return " but not having much

explanation about what that means exactly. thanks in advance and

apologies if this is too off topic or personal.

 

~berlee

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kim <berlee writes:

 

> hi guys, i know i'm generally a quiet lurker here. i am curious as

> to whether anyone here has somewhat in depth commentary on what

> saturn return is all about

 

Yeah. I noticed all my friends going through a transition and

started asking people who were older if anyone recognized it or knew

where I could learn more about it. " Saturn return " was the only real

answer I heard and when I'd heard it three times, I started asking.

 

I'd always poo-poo'd astrology before that, but hunting Saturn return

got me into being a moderately competant astrologer.

 

> and how to figure out when exactly it's happening

 

Need to chart it. It happens at basically 28.5 years old, plus or

minus about 8 months so it's different for everyone. Typically, it

also crosses the return point several times in that frame.

 

> and how long it lasts.

 

Like all things astrological, it sorta fades in and fades out. It's

not so much that one day it's on and the next day it's off. It's more

like it rises in importance, peaks, and then fades until something

else becomes more important and you stop noticing.

 

Basically, the phase lasts a year or two on either side of the

actual transition. The trick is that Saturn is almost a transpersonal

planet, meaning that it more often tends to feel like something that

occurs to you than it feels like a part you. So for most people, the

actual affects of Saturn return tend to be noticed more like a year or

two later. So most folks feel it at more like 28-30.

 

> i am coming up on the last birthday of my 20's thank gawd and people

> keep looking at me with this knowing look and saying " ooooh you are

> in your saturn return " but not having much explanation about what

> that means exactly. thanks in advance and apologies if this is too

> off topic or personal.

 

Saturn represents restructuring. From the time you were born, it's

been travelling around in the sky, restructuring the various areas of

your life, until at about 28.5 years old, it returns to the same place

in the sky that it was when you were born. That is, it completes it's

first big circle.

 

Having completed it's first big circle, each area of your life will

have been restructured once and the completion leads to a period where

people go " aha! " a lot as bits and pieces of their lives begin to make

sense like pieces of a puzzle falling into place.

 

Unfortunately, Saturn being what it is, it tends to feel like it's out

of our control. And Saturn return tends to bring big life changes.

Lot's of divorces. People moving cross country, quitting jobs,

getting married, switching careers, and the like. BIG changes.

Several years worth.

 

And I hear that the first one is the big one. People who've been

through their second tell me it's just not that big a deal. First

Uranus square seems to be a bigger one, but I haven't dived into that

one as much yet.

 

That's Saturn return. Best book I found on it is " Liquid Light of

Sex: Understanding Your Key Life Passages " by Barbara Hand Clow.

<http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0939680963/o/qid=940465255/sr=8-2/002-92\

06505-0393827>

 

Questions?

 

Chris.