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Sage sez:

 

<< I went to a demonstration of Reiki. What I found, and this is not to

denigrate any individual person, was pretty much what was said below. That

I already possessed both hands on and distance techniques of Reiki naturally

and have been using them for quiet some time consciously, and before that

for about 30 years, unconsciously. >>

 

I was told that many people are doing Reiki in some form or another without

ever being attuned. No mystery-- Reiki is not something " new " that has been

added to the universe. People have been laying on hands for healing forever,

and sending thoughts, warm wishes and healing in the form of prayer (among

others) for ever. What an attunement does is clear out the channels that we

already all have within us so that those channels can conduct the energy more

better.

 

I work mostly with massage students in my Reiki classes. They mostly have

some idea about energy fields and transference of energy from one being to

another or from the universe THROUGH one being to another. So I don't have to

spend a whole lot of time explaining this concept. You already know about it,

Sage. I do think that the attunement might do something for you, though.

Whatever you do could get stronger and clearer.

 

Anukki

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Ah,

I went to a demonstration of Reiki. What I found, and this is not to

denigrate any individual person, was pretty much what was said below. That

I already possessed both hands on and distance techniques of Reiki naturally

and have been using them for quiet some time consciously, and before that

for about 30 years, unconsciously. The other thing I found was an evolving

inner circle of healers who take a great deal of pride and expense in

calling themselves Reiki Master. Now this may sound like the fox with the

sour grapes and I would say perhaps you are right on. I also discovered

much to my chagrin that the locals here were part of the Twelve Step Program

which I had been emersed in for over 15 years and was trying to break away

from in order to live in the world beyond the four walls. So, the

dysfunctional relationship syndrome created in that Program which is cultish

in its elimination of the outer world from the inner world of THE PROGRAM at

least in this community, prevails within the Reiki associated Masters. I

had a tremendous experience when they performed Reiki on me, it was

wonderful, but when it was over I was no longer part of THE GROUP, as I had

not been earlier when introductions were made and everyone told about their

excellent credentials and " qualified " their presence in the group.

 

Your statements of your feelings gave me courage to express my seimilar

sentiments. I am older, experienced, and a therapist myself, so I do not

think my perceptions can be chalked up to paranoia or low self-esteem. I

have seen my work benefit others and know that what I do is a good thing but

I don't have a Reiki Certificate to prove it. I think I have the good

sense enough to know when I am being " snookered " into the belief that

Certificates qualify the possessee to something " unavailable " to the

un-initiated except through the Certified, and for a healthy price.

 

I believe in Reiki. I do not believe in Charlatans who do healing for

money. BIG MONEY. Even the most gifted of healers can be a Charlatan. I

believe in a smile and a gentle love that flows through the receiver and the

sender without qualification.

 

Sage

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<Anukki

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Wednesday, August 18, 1999 6:53 AM

Re: iki

 

 

> Anukki

>

> << I am myself studing to be a reiki master, >>

>

> Can I turn the conversation to Reiki? As I understand it, Reiki 1 gives

you

> the ability to put hands down and Reiki

> comes through attuned hands. Side effect-- Reiki for self as the energy

> passes through.

>

> Reiki 2 gives the ability to do the same, only long distance. Side

effect--

> boost of intuition.

>

> Reiki Master gives the ability to attune others. Side effect-- ??? Even

MORE

> intuition?

>

> So, what's to study in being a Reiki Master? You learn the hand positions,

> the symbols, learn how to attune others (this takes about five minutes)

and

> you are a Reiki Master. What am I missing here? I hear people talk of

reading

> the proper readings and of preparing to become a Reiki Master and all

that.

>

> Being a Reiki Master ? TEACHER might be the thing they are discussing.

Being

> a teacher takes a little more than five minutes of instruction, but having

> the ability to pass along the attunement takes no big skill. And am I

correct

> in assuming that THIS is what makes a Reiki Master?

>

> Anukki

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--- Red <red wrote: it was allowed

> to work on me but when it came his

> turn they would not let me help . . . I felt very

> letdown as I thought we would be

> interacting, giving as well as getting

 

Sage,

 

I am very sorry to hear this. This is the first time

I've heard of such exclusion. I have been at other

Reiki shares where non-attuned have given as well as

received hands-on healing (regardless of Reiki

status).

 

MichelleH

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Yes, I think that is what I was looking for, to get tuned in, not tuned out

.. . . interesting

that they would not allow me to participate in the administration of " their

Reiki " because

I had no credentials. . even though I have been interacting with a couple

of the

people there at home and they with me on a regular basis ..... One of my

friends who had

done a workshop before and paid for it was allowed to work on me but when it

came his

turn they would not let me help . . . I felt very letdown as I thought we

would be

interacting, giving as well as getting ..... oh well .....

 

Sage

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<Anukki

< >

Wednesday, August 18, 1999 7:58 AM

Re: Re: iki

 

 

> Anukki

>

> Sage sez:

>

> << I went to a demonstration of Reiki. What I found, and this is not to

> denigrate any individual person, was pretty much what was said below.

That

> I already possessed both hands on and distance techniques of Reiki

naturally

> and have been using them for quiet some time consciously, and before that

> for about 30 years, unconsciously. >>

>

> I was told that many people are doing Reiki in some form or another

without

> ever being attuned. No mystery-- Reiki is not something " new " that has

been

> added to the universe. People have been laying on hands for healing

forever,

> and sending thoughts, warm wishes and healing in the form of prayer (among

> others) for ever. What an attunement does is clear out the channels that

we

> already all have within us so that those channels can conduct the energy

more

> better.

>

> I work mostly with massage students in my Reiki classes. They mostly have

> some idea about energy fields and transference of energy from one being to

> another or from the universe THROUGH one being to another. So I don't have

to

> spend a whole lot of time explaining this concept. You already know about

it,

> Sage. I do think that the attunement might do something for you, though.

> Whatever you do could get stronger and clearer.

>

> Anukki

>

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Red wrote:

>

> " Red " <red

>

> Ah,

> I went to a demonstration of Reiki. What I found, and this is not to

> denigrate any individual person, was pretty much what was said below. That

> I already possessed both hands on and distance techniques of Reiki naturally

> aI

> believe in a smile and a gentle love that flows through the receiver and the

> sender without qualification.

>

> Sage

>

Our own good heart can be the teacher and the guide. We don't need

to learn how to be this way, we need to relax into it. It's a part

of us already. Loving kindness is generated when we feel the need

to help others, because in helping others, we truly help ourself.

 

Blessings to you,

Leonor

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