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a friend has a noise phobia which is destroying her life and nothing seems

to work on it. It's triggered by loud or intrusive noise and it's worse

when she's bored or upset. I've seen the woman in tears as a result of it

and she's run out of restaurants in the past.

 

One night in a restaurant she started describing it and I suddenly got a

glimpse of what it must be like to live without the 'noise filter' we all

possess and it was *vile*, so vile I slammed the door on it almost

immediately.

 

Emotionally she's still very attached to her family home and several

unresolved issues there, physically her back and neck are a brick wall.

Professionally and socially her life is a success, but this 'phobia'

threatens everything.

 

So is there an answer? I'll admit I'm stumped. She's had therapy for

straight phobias, but she says

that just made it worse. The doctors seem stumped, she's seen a busload of

alternative types and none of them have worked.

 

Any suggestions?

 

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> a friend has a noise phobia which is destroying her life and nothing seems

> to work on it.

 

 

> Any suggestions?

 

Hi Ged and listfriends,

 

I would suggest she see a reputable hypnotherapist. If she is given

a post-hypnotic suggestion to activate her noise filter, thus being

able to block out the noise, then she could deal with it " normally. "

 

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Could it just be an " oversensitivity " to particular tones or frequencies (I

don't know the corect terms for types of sound) ? My son, 3 1/2, is so

disturbed by loud noises and " odd " sounds that he has been known to have

extreme outbursts in public places as well. I have never really thought much

about it except that is just super-sensitive and he'll grow out of it or be

de-sensitized through time. I thought that maybe the pitch might somehow

trigger the reaction as he seems to react more to lower, deeper, roaring

sounds than high pitch. Then I thought that maybe this had to do with one of

the chakras (where that particular sound affects) You know how some sounds

resonate more with certain areas on the body? I'm rambling here, but could

there be a connection?

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RONNICHEEZ wrote:

 

Referring to her son's sound sensitivity:

 

>I thought that maybe the pitch might somehow

> trigger the reaction as he seems to react more to lower,

deeper, roaring sounds than high pitch.

 

Hi Ronni,

 

I don't know if your son will outgrow his sound sensitivities; but

from my own experience, as far back as I can recall, I have been

known to get " real uncomfortable " when there is too much base in

music being played around me. At home, or at a friends house, it

is no big thing to ask to adjust the level of base on a sound system.

I had trouble when I was in my twenties and would go to clubs with

friends....you know how the base was always turned up so high it made

the floor vibrate?! I would become agitated, then notice that my hands

turned into fists and felt if I didn't leave the room, someone was

gonna get punched out! Finally, I made the connection to the deeper

sound frequencies and tried to avoid putting myself in that environ-

ment. Even Today, when young people (gee, I sound like an old fart)

drive around in their cars, windows down, radios blaring, base all

the way, within seconds I can feel the aggressive mood wash over me.

 

If someone can shed some wisdom as to why this happens, I'd surely

like to hear it.

 

Hope everyone is having a great Monday!

 

Barbara Kimsey

Tiger, Georgia

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Barbara and Ronni:

 

The base sound in music stimulates your root chakra. For teenagers, it

is a " quick fix " grounding to listen to that pounding beat. In a space

where they are confused and hormonal, it gives them an energetic rope

to cling to.... false courage <LOL>

 

If you are very uncomfortable with that sound, you might consider that

you have a block in your root chakra. Doing grounding meditations

would be useful. People who are uncomfortable with deep bass are

usually not great fans of red or black, either. In order to acclimate

yourself to it, you might try listening to some bass beat music with

the sound lowered and the bass boost up. Get as close to the speaker

as possible, and " feel " the rhythm. Listen to it. If you can't close

your eyes, give yourself something red or black to look at, like a

blank piece of construction paper or cloth. If you have anger or fear

swell up, follow it and see what it is that is bothering you. You

might be surprised to find it's not the music at all, but a trapped

memory or feeling of some kind.

 

Barbara Kimsey wrote:

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> Barbara Kimsey <twobears

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> RONNICHEEZ wrote:

>

> Referring to her son's sound sensitivity:

>

> >I thought that maybe the pitch might somehow

> > trigger the reaction as he seems to react more to lower,

> deeper, roaring sounds than high pitch.

>

> Hi Ronni,

>

> I don't know if your son will outgrow his sound sensitivities; but

> from my own experience, as far back as I can recall, I have been

> known to get " real uncomfortable " when there is too much base in

> music being played around me.

 

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In a message dated 6/26/99 9:58:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

gedquayle writes:

 

<< Any suggestions?

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how bout hypnosis? I understand this can be very useful in uncovering the

real underlying dilemma

 

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Caroline:

 

After reading about the red/black and base sounds, I have a situation I'm

wondering about, especially regarding the base sounds.

 

I'm experiencing a hearing loss in my right ear. This is not just diminished

treble tones. There is also a distortion of the higher tones. If I were to

listen to people with higher voices with just that ear they would sound like a

speeded voice recording or Minny Mouse.

 

Because the brain compesates for diminshed senses, base sounds are magnified a

lot. I love listening to my music, but some arrangements it doesnt sound right

unless I mute the base.

 

Another thing, my house is on a busy street on a corner with a stop sign. At 2

or 3am. when someone stops at the stop sign with the base going so loud the

house shakes, I do tend to wake up angry.

 

As for the dolors red and black, I like those colors as long as they arent the

muddied shades. I only enjoy a pure red. If black is added to deepen a red

into a deep carmine, all the better. I only like black if it is a deep, deep

midnight black.

 

My question is, does this imply that my root chakra might be distorted? I'm

realy curious about this. Any ideas?

 

Vivian

 

 

 

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Caroline Abreu wrote:

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>People who are uncomfortable with deep bass are

> usually not great fans of red or black,

 

 

You certainly got that right! I like red and black as long as

it is not on me or around me. I've always thought of red being

way too powerful; and black, much too somber.

 

> In order to acclimate

> yourself to it, you might try listening to some bass beat music with

> the sound lowered and the bass boost up. Get as close to the speaker

> as possible, and " feel " the rhythm. Listen to it. If you can't close

> your eyes, give yourself something red or black to look at, like a

> blank piece of construction paper or cloth. If you have anger or fear

> swell up, follow it and see what it is that is bothering you. You

> might be surprised to find it's not the music at all, but a trapped

> memory or feeling of some kind.

 

Caroline, I find your suggestion to be quite challenging. Looking at

a red or black cloth, while hugging my stereo speaker, might be just

the thing to do; but it is not something I would want to do by myself.

If I were to pursue this, I think the best approach would be to enlist

the aid of my friend, Kathryn Granberg (remember her from HT 1?) who is

a hypnotherapist. If there is a trapped memory or feeling, it would

surface more readily if I were in a very relaxed state of mind.

 

Thanks for your insightful response. It has given me lots of food for

thought. I will see Kathryn Wednesday night, come to think of it, at

our Women's Circle. She has volunteered to do a group past-life re-

gression....now that should prove interesting!

 

Your help is much appreciated,

 

Barbara

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Barbara Kimsey wrote:

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> Caroline, I find your suggestion to be quite challenging. Looking at

> a red or black cloth, while hugging my stereo speaker, might be just

> the thing to do; but it is not something I would want to do by myself.

> If I were to pursue this, I think the best approach would be to enlist

> the aid of my friend, Kathryn Granberg (remember her from HT 1?) who is

> a hypnotherapist. If there is a trapped memory or feeling, it would

> surface more readily if I were in a very relaxed state of mind.

>

> Thanks for your insightful response. It has given me lots of food for

> thought. I will see Kathryn Wednesday night, come to think of it, at

> our Women's Circle. She has volunteered to do a group past-life re-

> gression....now that should prove interesting!

>

Barbara:

 

I agree with you, it is challenging :-) Support from another person

who can assist you (like the " midwife " role in rebirthing or

holotropic breathwork) would be wonderful. I am personally a lot like

tribal women, who tend to go out into the brush alone to deliver <G>

but I understand the need for support, and for the hypnotherapeutic

approach, which may clear the blocks without dealing consciously with

the issues involved.

 

Bear in mind when you are doing a group technique, such as a journey

or regression, that the therapist is unable to focus on everyone. Make

sure she will be accessible to you later if things begin to emerge

afterwards. It may be a few days before things begin to surface.

 

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>Caroline Abreu <crow

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wrote:

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>Hearing difficulties are more usually associated with the throat

>chakra, because hearing is an intrinsic part of communication. It

>might be interesting to you to discover if you are losing keynotes as

>well as higher vibrational tones, since there are correspondences with

>the chakras. Have you had any head injury, ie, have you had a bump to

>the back of the head or a whiplash? Or has the hearing loss been

> " organic " over time? How is your neck? Do you have any tinnitis? How

>is your vision?

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

 

Done the usual smacking the top or back of my head coming up to fast under the

cupboard door. About 30yrs ago, I was in a motorcycle accident, (I was the

passanger). I ended up under the car in front of us (the car that made the

sudden stop), Hitting my head behind my R. ear on the way. Had a concussion and

a sever whiplash.

 

The hearing loss bgan about 4yrs ago. It started with tinnitis, white noise and

random wierd sounds. At first it was driving me bats. Got a new fridge because

the old one made to many weird sounds that seemed amplfied. I've since adjusted

to the ear noise. It only gets louder if Im coming down with a cold or blood

sugar is low, stuff like that.

 

Had my ear checked twice. first time when the tinnitis began, last time was 6

mos ago. Both times the doctors wern't sure what the caused the hearing loss.

 

If I listened with that ear on the phone when it began, peoples voices would

sound low and gravely. Now It sounds like low, gravely and very distant. Last

doctor said the loss has gone to 50%.

 

As for vision, it wavers back and forth between normal and slightly farsighted.

Its the astigmatism that has intensified.

 

I dont like to go on about my ailments but this has kind of got me going. I've

started reading the Caroline Myss books and Cyndi Dales' 32-Center Energy

system, and Barbara Brennans' books.

 

I live in Seattle, WA., and though I'm sure there are good Healers here, I just

wouldn't know where to look.

 

I appreciate your help in this,

 

Vivian

 

 

 

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Vivian Espinosa wrote:

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> I'm experiencing a hearing loss in my right ear. This is not just diminished

> treble tones. There is also a distortion of the higher tones. If I were to

> listen to people with higher voices with just that ear they would sound like

> a speeded voice recording or Minny Mouse.

>

> Because the brain compesates for diminshed senses, base sounds are magnified

> a lot. I love listening to my music, but some arrangements it doesnt sound

> right unless I mute the base.

>

 

Hearing difficulties are more usually associated with the throat

chakra, because hearing is an intrinsic part of communication. It

might be interesting to you to discover if you are losing keynotes as

well as higher vibrational tones, since there are correspondences with

the chakras. Have you had any head injury, ie, have you had a bump to

the back of the head or a whiplash? Or has the hearing loss been

" organic " over time? How is your neck? Do you have any tinnitis? How

is your vision?

 

If you are also experiencing some visual distortion, it might be a

combination of your throat and brow. It seems as if your perception of

the bass tones is normal, so it is probably not root related.

 

> Another thing, my house is on a busy street on a corner with a stop sign. At

> 2 or 3am. when someone stops at the stop sign with the base going so loud the

> house shakes, I do tend to wake up angry.

>

 

Well, this does not surprise me, I would consider this normal. We live

near a busy boardwalk, and the motorcycles revving by in the early

morning hours make me want to go out and have a hiney kicking myself.

When you're sleeping you don't want to have your survival center

activated, you want to rest ;-)

 

> As for the dolors red and black, I like those colors as long as they arent

> the muddied shades. I only enjoy a pure red. If black is added to deepen a

> red into a deep carmine, all the better. I only like black if it is a deep,

> deep midnight black.

>

> My question is, does this imply that my root chakra might be distorted? I'm

> realy curious about this. Any ideas?

>

 

The pure colors are usually more pleasurable on a basic level. If you

will notice, children love primary colors. We tend to gravitate

towards pastels or muted shades only as we get older. Some of us never

do <LOL> No, I would be more likely to think you have a root problem

if you truly had a distaste for pure color tones. If a person who

needs to be grounded has real problems with wearing red or black, I'd

suggest they go for neutrals, such as brown, tan, grey, etc... but to

accentuate it with a primary focus color (a scarf or tie, for

instance), or wear it as underwear.

 

Orange, for instance, is another color a lot of people have problems

with... but then again, how many of us have sacral issues with our

sexuality and emotional well-being? How many of us have been molested

or abused? I encourage people to work on things one at a time... after

all, our issues didn't develop overnight, and they won't be dealt with

that way, either :-)

 

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My apologies, Vivian, for the long lag in response.

 

Vivian Espinosa wrote:

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> >Caroline Abreu <crow

> >

> wrote:

> >>

> >Hearing difficulties are more usually associated with the throat

> >chakra, because hearing is an intrinsic part of communication. It

> >might be interesting to you to discover if you are losing keynotes as

> >well as higher vibrational tones, since there are correspondences with

> >the chakras. Have you had any head injury, ie, have you had a bump to

> >the back of the head or a whiplash? Or has the hearing loss been

> > " organic " over time? How is your neck? Do you have any tinnitis? How

> >is your vision?

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>

> Done the usual smacking the top or back of my head coming up to fast under

> the cupboard door. About 30yrs ago, I was in a motorcycle accident, (I was

> the passanger). I ended up under the car in front of us (the car that made

> the sudden stop), Hitting my head behind my R. ear on the way. Had a

> concussion and a sever whiplash.

>

 

It may be that these things are related, or not. I have found that old

injuries often leave a herniated area in the energy field, or even a

leak, that can, over time, cause problems like a slow leak in a tire.

The area over surgery sites or other injuries can be sealed, though.

 

> The hearing loss bgan about 4yrs ago. It started with tinnitis, white noise

> and random wierd sounds.

>

> Had my ear checked twice. first time when the tinnitis began, last time was

> 6 mos ago. Both times the doctors wern't sure what the caused the hearing

> loss.

>

> If I listened with that ear on the phone when it began, peoples voices would

> sound low and gravely. Now It sounds like low, gravely and very distant.

> Last doctor said the loss has gone to 50%.

>

 

I am still thinking this is related to throat chakra. I would

encourage you to do some positive work with communication, especially

exercising your ability to speak up for yourself and hear the truth;

if you have been in a situation where you have been insulted or

verbally abused or have been hearing things you did not want to, this

might contribute. You might also meditate and ask your body directly

why you are having difficulty with your hearing.

 

Do the hand warming, too... rub your palms together to warm them, and

cup them over your ears. Keep them there and listen for the " feedback "

(like you would hear in a seashell). Visualize the warmth and energy

filling your ears and lubricating the structures, supporting the

nerves and clearing the passages. Have you tried ear candling? I have

heard mixed reviews, but if you find a person who is experienced it

certainly cannot hurt you and might be beneficial.

 

Anybody else have experience with ear candles?

 

> As for vision, it wavers back and forth between normal and slightly

> farsighted. Its the astigmatism that has intensified.

>

 

Try a book on ayurvedic vision improvement; the exercises will

strengthen the muscles around your eye and although my vision has not

improved significantly yet, my astigmatism has reduced and my last

glasses subscription was the same as the one two years before, which

for me is an improvement. I'll poke around and see if I can find the

title of the book I liked.

 

>

> I live in Seattle, WA., and though I'm sure there are good Healers here, I

> just wouldn't know where to look.

>

 

I do not know a lot about the other networks, but if you would be

interested in finding a Healing Touch practitioner in your area, you

can find them listed at the Healing Touch International site at

http://www.healingtouch.net and I would also look into some of the

local networking papers (they are usually found at health food stores

or new age bookstores) for other possibilities. I'm sure an area like

Seattle must have one or two alternative news offerings.

 

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I haven't had any experience myself with ear candles, but my uncle has used

them

and said he couldn't believe how much wax he got out of his ear. He got it

at a health store.

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--- Caroline Abreu <crow wrote:

> Have you tried ear

> candling? I have

> heard mixed reviews, but if you find a person who is

> experienced it

> certainly cannot hurt you and might be beneficial.

>

> Anybody else have experience with ear candles?

 

I have had really good experiences with ear candling.

I've had it done to me and have done it for others.

The best candles we've used come from New Horizons in

Oregon (would have to look up the 800# at home if

anyone is interested).

 

I see in a search that a company is selling an " ear

candle " made out of glass that is reusable. This is

interesting:

 

http://dsouzaessentials.com/deearcandles.html

 

I used to have problems with my ears after airflights

(sinusitis led to ear popping) and don't after using

ear candles.

 

Michelle

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I must admit to being ignorant of ear candles except from the many positive

remarks I've heard from friends who have used and experienced them.

Certainly I would try to find someone who is careful and knows what they are

doing... you can be hurt by anyone.

 

I am curious about the glass ones, but I also wonder if the glass might not

be pretty hot against the ear. I guess I will have to look up that URL and

see if they have pictures.

 

There is indeed controversy about candling, like there is about a lot of

other alternative therapies. I would educate myself from both sides before I

jumped to conclusions; it sounds as if the " experimenters " were deliberately

trying to increase the possibility of injury by performing the procedure

incorrectly. I have never known anyone to have hot wax dripped on them, or

in their ears, from candling.

 

Blessings,

Crow

 

 

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Re: wierd 'noise phobia'

Thu, 15 Jul 1999 07:01:51 -0400

 

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Caroline wrote:

 

<< Have you tried ear candling? I have heard mixed reviews, but if you find

a person who is experienced it certainly cannot hurt you and might be

beneficial.>>

 

Before you go looking for someone to candle your ears, point your browser to

http://abundanthealth.com/ and click on ear candling. This article shows an

experiment with photos of ear candling and is quite eye opening. I have

heard stories of the wax dripping into the ear canal and onto the ear drum,

causing terrible problems.

 

Carolyn Mudgette, LMT

St. Augustine, FL

 

 

 

 

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Caroline wrote:

 

<< Have you tried ear candling? I have heard mixed reviews, but if you find

a person who is experienced it certainly cannot hurt you and might be

beneficial.>>

 

Before you go looking for someone to candle your ears, point your browser to

http://abundanthealth.com/ and click on ear candling. This article shows an

experiment with photos of ear candling and is quite eye opening. I have

heard stories of the wax dripping into the ear canal and onto the ear drum,

causing terrible problems.

 

Carolyn Mudgette, LMT

St. Augustine, FL

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