Digest Number 51

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<<One hotshot student came up with a long detailed philosophical reason

as to why William Holden's body was photographed floating from below the

water with the police in the background.........and asked if his

interpretation were true.

The director said : " Nah, I just thought it was a nice shot. "

Sometimes a cigar is only a cigar.>>

 

 

Gee, thanks, Bill ... how positive and helpful.

 

There's a bit of difference between tinseltown pseudo-academe and

someone making honest and radical change to their life, inside and out.

Symbols are immensely powerful tools for thought and change.

 

Why am I defending this? On this list???

 

Arabella

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{{{Friends}}}

 

I am completing a training in this area and will not be responding to mail

for a couple of weeks,

 

I will be back

 

allie

[Guest guest]

 

 

The 800 number for HUM is 800-635-0666.

 

Also, on the subject of using Western herbs within

the context of Chinese herbology, while I am interested

in this enterprise (I have read some of Tierra and Holmes),

my problem has always been the question of how decisions

are made about taste, temperature, and entering channels.

In the Chinese materia medica this information is

often not particularly consistent from text to text, but

at the very least, there is a long history of use with many

people commenting on these properties. (The sort of

consensus that Bensky represents is simply not a

reflection of diversity found in Chinese materia medica.)

With all due respect to ,

I guess all I'm saying is, who is making the decision,

what in their background gives them the skills necessary

to do so, who else agrees with them, and who disagrees?

To be perfectly honest, I am not interested in using

my patients as guinea pigs in the development of

Western herbology when Chinese herbology already

exists as a well-developed system. Furthermore, there

are projects occurring in the US right now with the

goal of growing some of the most commonly used

medicinals here in the US. Anyway, just some thoughts.

 

Craig

[Guest guest]

Dear Craig,

Your problem is something that I (along with a few hundred thousand

other practicioners) have also pondered. Dr. Ballentine in his book Diet

and Nurition has addressed this issue well using the six tastes of Ayurveda.

(In Ayurveda sour and astringent are not combined as a single taste as they

are in Chinese medicine and there is not much mention of bland).

The point is that there has been very long and sophicated development of

taste and properties (like hot/warm, cold/cool) of herbs over the manys

years by individual herbalist who have used their own sensitive bodies and

clinical knowledge and experience to test the herbs.

Unfortunately, the reality is, that there has not always been agreement

on this issue. Different conclusions and different labortory have resulted

from different times.

Then there 'vipak' the effect the herb has after assimulation. And also

the constituion of the person consuming the herb which further complicates

the issue. Patrick.

 

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>cem

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>Re: Digest Number 51

>Tue, Nov 23, 1999, 9:16 AM

>

 

> cem

>

>

>

> The 800 number for HUM is 800-635-0666.

>

> Also, on the subject of using Western herbs within

> the context of Chinese herbology, while I am interested

> in this enterprise (I have read some of Tierra and Holmes),

> my problem has always been the question of how decisions

> are made about taste, temperature, and entering channels.

> In the Chinese materia medica this information is

> often not particularly consistent from text to text, but

> at the very least, there is a long history of use with many

> people commenting on these properties. (The sort of

> consensus that Bensky represents is simply not a

> reflection of diversity found in Chinese materia medica.)

> With all due respect to ,

> I guess all I'm saying is, who is making the decision,

> what in their background gives them the skills necessary

> to do so, who else agrees with them, and who disagrees?

> To be perfectly honest, I am not interested in using

> my patients as guinea pigs in the development of

> Western herbology when Chinese herbology already

> exists as a well-developed system. Furthermore, there

> are projects occurring in the US right now with the

> goal of growing some of the most commonly used

> medicinals here in the US. Anyway, just some thoughts.

>

> Craig

>

> > Chronic Diseases Heal - Chinese Herbs Can Help

>

[Guest guest]

Peace and blessings to all!

I am only a Pranic healing basics graduate and wish to provide only comments on

correlations

between karma and my own theological background with the hope that perhaps it

may obviate any

fears or concerns a Christian may have in learning about or using Pranic

healing. This is with

full respect to the truths that all hold dearly and is presented merely as

informational.

I believe much of any perceived 'differences' against " the law of karma " are

primarily

semantically based. Semantically in Judeaic-Christian terms, " the law of Karma "

can be substituted

seamlessly with the concept of " the law of the harvest " . This is represented

both in the old

testament (and therefore perhaps also relevant to our Muslim brothers - I don't

know myself?)and

in the new testament.

 

For example from the old testament:

" .. they that plow iniquity, and sow wickedness, reap the same " (KJV Job 4:8)

 

" Sow to yourself in righteousness, reap in mercy; ..Ye have plowed wickedness,

ye have reaped

iniquity " (KJV Hosea 10:12-13)

 

From the New testament:

" Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he

also reap. " (KJV

Gal. 6:7)

 

And perhaps a little more abstract but certainly karmic is:

 

" Judge not that ye be not judged. For with what judgement ye judge, ye shall be

judged: and with

what measure you mete, it shall be measured to you again " (KJV Mat. 7:1-2)

 

All this in Pranic healing terms being manifested as pathologies in the inner

and outer auras of

their patients.

Now, in the Christian concept, divine grace frees man from the karmic conditions

of sin subject to

the conditions of sincere repentance ( " go and sin no more " KJV Jn 8:11, 10-11)

or as Pranic

healers would perhaps put it - availing themselves of the gift of light and

applying it and using

it to clean up our inner and outer auras.

I do not wish to get bogged down in dogma or divert this list into a theological

discussion but

merely hope to show some examples wherebye perhaps people can reconcile Karmic

concepts to a

Christian believer and therefore make Pranic healing assessable to them and help

bring them more

fully to the light which they so earnestly seek in their lives.

 

Love and Blessings

Ralph Mackey

 

 

> Message: 5

> Sat, 16 Sep 2000 18:06:46 +0700

> " Sonny " <sonny

> Re: Re: OM, AMEN, AMIN in MTH

>

> Girish's concern has been our concern too

> in the past. Among the Muslims in Indonesia,

> the word AMIN is more easily acceptable than

> OM as far as the Meditation on Twin Hearts is

> concerned. Some claimed that during the

> interval between the two AMINs, they would

> mentally recite the zikr " La ilaha illa Llahu " ,

> while others would prefer to meditate

> simultaneously on the light, stillness and bliss.

> Many, however, agree that activating the heart

> chakra with the zikr " La ilaha illa Llahu " gives

> more power to inculcate deep sincerity and

> loving kindness when blessing the planet earth.

>

> On several occasions, I have heard the words

> Bismi Llah ir-Rahman ir-Rahim, Allahu Akbar,

> etc. uttered silently during the opening and closing

> of the Meditation.

>

> I recall we had some resentments to mentioning

> the Prayer of Saint Francis of Assisi, although

> many however felt comfortable with the spirit as

> well as the essence of the prayer.

>

> The biggest challenge, as I remember, in teaching

> Basic Pranic Healing among Muslims in Indonesia

> was imparting the Law of Karma. Some were even

> " allergic " to the word " Hukm Karma " , but comfortable

> with the Law of Cause and Effect. However, we had

> to discriminate wisely the use of such words as

> karmic disease, past lives, and the like.

>

> I would be interested to hear Girish's and others'

> experiences on this, perhaps not in this

> forum but more appropriately in the PranicHealing

> Teachers website of the same .

>

> Note to Glenn Mendoza: Can we get some insights

> into the cross-cultural experiences of our Pranic

> Healing Trainers from different religious backgrounds

> worldwide?

>

> Namaste!

>

> Sonny Lioe

>

>

> Anil Bhavnani <rankgroup

>

> Friday, September 15, 2000 8:16 PM

> Re:

>

>

> >

> >

> >>Namaste Master Fe ,

> >>

> >>Greetings of love and light .

> >>

> >>I am a basic Pranic Healing Trainer. I am getting a lot of muslim

> >>students and the muslim students do not like to use either the word " OM "

> >>or " Amen " during twin heart meditation . Could you kindly suggest what

> >>word can be used in this case ?

> >>

> >>The students have asked if they can use the following words :

> >>

> >>Allah O Akbar [ supreme god is great]

>

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