Guest guest Posted April 15, 1999 Report Share Posted April 15, 1999 > Caroline Abreu <crow > Alain, > > I am very glad to see you. I had been missing you on Body_Work, and wondered > where you had wandered off to. Good you are with us here. Glad to see you too. Time is such a tyrant... no time to catch up with body work digests, nor to get involved, but i was there. Now, this list is really what i wanted, and it appeared just by the time i/Body_work was leaving Body_work/me behind... interesting, no? > > I suppose it sounds rather insane to call this process fun, what Peter Gabriel > calls " digging in the dirt to find the places we got hurt " ... maybe 'fun' is too > flippant a word... maybe pleasureable is not good, either. Hmm. > > I think what I am trying to say, Alain, is that it is satisfying, like a good > workout or a hard day's sweaty labor. At the end, you are sore, but glad you did it. Ok. I get that better. The word that comes to me is " rewarding " . Still, that reward can be so costly. For me it is still hard to make the will to go for it. Maybe it is just a question of training. (yes, i thing i am getting better at it with time). Well, that should have been an insipient subject for this list, i guess. Body_mind: how to get better considering that unity. Of course, the existence of dark corners, the dificulty there is to step into them and the reward that it brings is at the core of all this subject, isn't it? Now, how about some enlightened body " work " about that. Crow, you mentioned Chakras (and other stuff) early in the archives. Dificulty to look at the dark of one, where would it be " located " ? and how would it " fisically " relate? how could you " see " it in the body? and act on it from there...? (a lot of half-made ideas, wonders and hopes underlay in this question... that's my idea of what this list could be about, in part... what do people think?) (snip) > In the end, he joined her and the other children, laughing and playing in the shadows of the trees. A story of liberation. There is a saying that goes like " ignorance is the mother of all evil " or something like that. Bring the candles to the dark corners... > Seer7 <seer7 > Well look how much trouble it causes trying to keep it hidden. If you jump > right into the middle of them with gusto...it really becomes easier and > lightens your spirit and that in turn makes you happier. Now I ask you > truly.... isn't things that lightens your spirit and makes you happier > fun?? Well why should shadows be any different. eh? > Sherri True. Just have to be convinced, and have enough courage to dare look at the dark... Truly, if you go PAST that point and get the darn thing out of the dark into the light, then you get a lot of fun, but what about that process during which you are not seeing the light yet, but just struggling mad. Some people stay there forever. That's not fun at all. I don't mean to be pesimist. (i'm working on it LOL). I know we all can do it. You all know that too and for sure better than me as you have made your profesion of it (i am still working with deterministic-non-emotional-rational-computers ;-) Ok. I take my comments back. It is fun. Rewarding. That's what i need to keep in mind i guess, to stop putting too much importance on what's between me and that fun. Thanks for helping. ----- Alain Gougeon Analista de Sistemas Montevideo, Uruguay, América del Sur ajmg http://members.tripod.com/Alain_Gougeon _____ Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 1999 Report Share Posted April 15, 1999 > Caroline Abreu <crow > Alain, > > I am very glad to see you. I had been missing you on Body_Work, and wondered > where you had wandered off to. Good you are with us here. Glad to see you too. Time is such a tyrant... no time to catch up with body work digests, nor to get involved, but i was there. Now, this list is really what i wanted, and it appeared just by the time i/Body_work was leaving Body_work/me behind... interesting, no? > > I suppose it sounds rather insane to call this process fun, what Peter Gabriel > calls " digging in the dirt to find the places we got hurt " ... maybe 'fun' is too > flippant a word... maybe pleasureable is not good, either. Hmm. > > I think what I am trying to say, Alain, is that it is satisfying, like a good > workout or a hard day's sweaty labor. At the end, you are sore, but glad you did it. Ok. I get that better. The word that comes to me is " rewarding " . Still, that reward can be so costly. For me it is still hard to make the will to go for it. Maybe it is just a question of training. (yes, i thing i am getting better at it with time). Well, that should have been an insipient subject for this list, i guess. Body_mind: how to get better considering that unity. Of course, the existence of dark corners, the dificulty there is to step into them and the reward that it brings is at the core of all this subject, isn't it? Now, how about some enlightened body " work " about that. Crow, you mentioned Chakras (and other stuff) early in the archives. Dificulty to look at the dark of one, where would it be " located " ? and how would it " fisically " relate? how could you " see " it in the body? and act on it from there...? (a lot of half-made ideas, wonders and hopes underlay in this question... that's my idea of what this list could be about, in part... what do people think?) (snip) > In the end, he joined her and the other children, laughing and playing in the shadows of the trees. A story of liberation. There is a saying that goes like " ignorance is the mother of all evil " or something like that. Bring the candles to the dark corners... > Seer7 <seer7 > Well look how much trouble it causes trying to keep it hidden. If you jump > right into the middle of them with gusto...it really becomes easier and > lightens your spirit and that in turn makes you happier. Now I ask you > truly.... isn't things that lightens your spirit and makes you happier > fun?? Well why should shadows be any different. eh? > Sherri True. Just have to be convinced, and have enough courage to dare look at the dark... Truly, if you go PAST that point and get the darn thing out of the dark into the light, then you get a lot of fun, but what about that process during which you are not seeing the light yet, but just struggling mad. Some people stay there forever. That's not fun at all. I don't mean to be pesimist. (i'm working on it LOL). I know we all can do it. You all know that too and for sure better than me as you have made your profesion of it (i am still working with deterministic-non-emotional-rational-computers ;-) Ok. I take my comments back. It is fun. Rewarding. That's what i need to keep in mind i guess, to stop putting too much importance on what's between me and that fun. Thanks for helping. ----- Alain Gougeon Analista de Sistemas Montevideo, Uruguay, América del Sur ajmg http://members.tripod.com/Alain_Gougeon _____ Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 1999 Report Share Posted April 15, 1999 At 07:21 AM 4/15/99 PDT, you wrote: >Now, how about some enlightened body " work " about that. Crow, you mentioned >Chakras (and other stuff) early in the archives. Dificulty to look at the >dark of one, where would it be " located " ? and how would it " fisically " >relate? how could you " see " it in the body? and act on it from there...? (a >lot of half-made ideas, wonders and hopes underlay in this question... >that's my idea of what this list could be about, in part... what do people >think?) For myself (and really, for whom else can I speak?), when I do a chakra meditation, my inner image of what each chakra looks like has splotches of dark on it, when I'm out of sorts. Of course, I wonder about my heart chakra a lot, because it seems naturally to be a swirl of shades of green from darkest forest green to brightest lime...but when I find a coating of what seems to be charcoal on any of the others, it's time to scrub 'em clean. blessings, Chris By the bye, has anyone here ever heard of the 'personal totem', or something to that effect, which seems to suggest that each chakra has its own totem animal?? I'm looking for more info on this. thanks, Chris Christina Barrett, RMT Weymouth, Nova Scotia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 1999 Report Share Posted April 17, 1999 >>>>Chris Barrett <cbr By the bye, has anyone here ever heard of the 'personal totem', or something to that effect, which seems to suggest that each chakra has its own totem animal?? I'm looking for more info on this.>>> The first chakra is the elephant. The second is the crocodile, and....I don't know about the rest! I'm attending a class called the psychology of the chakras. Next week we're working on the 3rd chakra. I could tell you the 3rd chakra animal then! Of course I could ask the teacher all the animals for all the chakras. It might spoil things if we jumped the gun a bit. You know, talked about the 5th chakra when we're still on the 3rd. Yet it really doesn't hurt to ask, does it? The discussion we had about lighting a candle in the darkness made an impression on me. I had this dream the other night concerning it. I dreamt the living dead (no joke) lived in a house up my street. The only way to get rid of them was to light every candle on their front porch. I lit them all and those zombies lost their power. Cool dream, eh? Angie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 1999 Report Share Posted April 18, 1999 At 05:52 PM 4/17/99 -0400, you wrote: >drums1018 (angela crosby) >The first chakra is the elephant. The second is the crocodile, and....I >don't know about the rest! I'm attending a class called the psychology >of the chakras. Next week we're working on the 3rd chakra. I My understanding of this is that each person has her/his own personal animals, so while your first chakra may be populated by an elephant and the second a crocodile, mine may be something completely different...just as each person's 'spirit guide' is different. Chris Christina Barrett, Massage Therapist, Mum to 3 (homeschooling 2), and general lunatic-in-residence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 1999 Report Share Posted April 18, 1999 >>>Chris Barrett <cbr My understanding of this is that each person has her/his own personal animals, so while your first chakra may be populated by an elephant and the second a crocodile, mine may be something completely different...just as each person's 'spirit guide' is different.>>> I didn't know this. When my teacher spoke of an animal relating to each chakra, he wasn't speaking of me specifically. I don't know...I find the chakra system absolutely fascinating, but confusing at the same time! There seems to be various opinions about the chakras. For instance, in Anodea Judith's book, " Eastern Body, Western Mind " , she says we develop our 1st chakra from the womb until 12 months or so. My teacher says the development for the first chakra begins at birth until 6 years of age for girls. For boys it's birth until 7 years of age. Who am I supposed to believe here? I'm confused! Caro brought up discussing one chakra at a time...I would LOVE it!!! Please? Angie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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