Guest guest Posted April 11, 1999 Report Share Posted April 11, 1999 Anukki wrote: > Caro said: > > It is amazing to me that hypnosis can help a person get to an issue > > without having to consciously explore it; for those who have suffered > > trauma, that must be a plus. > > How does this work? I thought when you did hypnosis, you would consciously > remember whatever went on in the session. Tell me more about this, please? > > <sitting with ears all open> > Anukki It is my understanding, from my brief exploration and weekend classes in beginning scripts and techniques, that you inform the person experiencing hypnotherapy that they may choose to recall everything that happens during a session if they desire, and that they are in complete control, so that if they are uncomfortable they can leave the hypnotic state by simply opening their eyes. There is no " memory erasing " , but a person doesn't have to be consciously wrestling with an emotional issue that they can deal with in the objective mind with a lot more clarity. Instead of enhancing the subjectivity of an episode and shoving a person through it, it goes cleanly to the cause and helps the person resolve or release it. It is nigh nearly impossible to do that when you are awake, and there is always a possibility of faulty, skewed, or selective memory when you are conscious. No prejudices in the unconscious, just the bare truth. That is my understanding, at least. That, for instance, if you are hypnotised to work with diabetes, you do not have to know why you have diabetes in order for hypnosis to work. In Good Health, Caro -- Caroline Abreu, BS, RN, CHTP/I, CRMT Energywork * Holistic Nursing * Shamanism " A Nurturing Touch " http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/Spa/5114/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 1999 Report Share Posted April 11, 1999 Caroline Abreu wrote: > > > How does this work? I thought when you did hypnosis, you would consciously > > remember whatever went on in the session. Tell me more about this, please? Yes, most of the time you remember everything. However some people " somnambulist " (those that go very very deep) may not. The precentage of people who are somnambulist is small and the type of person that the 'stage hynotherapist' looks for. NLP on the other hand does have the ability to erase memory. People under hypnosis are aware of sounds, talking, and all stuff around them in a distracted sort of way. Regression has always been my passion as it allows one to go back to the 'source' of a problem/issue and uncover what originally caused it. If it is emotional....the hynotherapist will move you from active involvment in the memory to observer position until you clear the emotion you have tied up. Once the emotion (which has anchored in) is clear......then you can heal the issue. One would not want to erase memory because you would then lose all the wisdom. Rather it would be perferable to 'remember it' without any emotional attachment. People go in and out of mini 'trances' everyday. Ever been driving somewhere and be lost in thought and look up and realize that you are 3 miles farther down the road? Car has been on autopilot? This is a mini trance state. You go in and out when you are going to sleep and wake up each day also. Meditation is a form of this also. Issues within us cause problems because of our 'emotional anchors'. ie...for example: Say a member of your family constantly told you ...that you were worthless. (bad, no good whatever) as a small child. This anchors into you emotionally by your emotions (body rememberance) about it. Now everyone you see in your lifetime that seems to support (judge you worthless, no good etc) will link right back to that original emotional trauma. (doesn't matter if it is right or wrong judgements..) The mind will automatically link anything that 'seems' to support that right back to the original. ( think of it as a computer subdirectory... entitled " worthless " .....all bits of information that seem to be revelent to worthless is stored in that subdirectory as you move thru life). So you use hypnosis regression to go back and discover the original source.......and use NLP to unlink the other bits of data that got attached to the first one. (am I writing this in a way you understand??) You can always bring yourself out of hypnosis by counting up. You also will not do anything that is against your morals. You are ultimately in control. Stage hypnosis is done because the people barking like dogs ...is not a moral issue....and they allow it.... see? Issues gets stored in our memory/body originally by the emotion ...not by the actual thought.. the emotion is the 'glue'. I like to think of it thus: I am a hard drive that goes by the title " c:\Sherri " Under this C:\Sherri are subdirectories entitled: C:\Sherri\Relationships; C:\Sherri\Money C:\Sherri\Animals (etc). Now under the C:\Sherri\Relationships are other subdirectories once of which is called: C:\Sherri\Relationships\men C:\Sherri\Relationships\men\good (all thoughts and emotions that men are good gets stored here) C:\Sherri\Relationships\men\bad (all thoughts and emotions that men are bad stored here) When something comes along that supports the original thought of men are bad...boom...moves right to the above subdirectory by our mind. Now this is an acuumulated lifetime of thoughts and emotions so you can 'see' why issues get so involved and how it is linked. See? Sherri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 1999 Report Share Posted April 11, 1999 OH PS..... Let me add to that ... So to find the source of the making of the original subdirectory: C:\Sherri\Relationships\Men\bad I would use regression to go into that file and find the original (first) file entry. grin Sherri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 1999 Report Share Posted April 11, 1999 Seer7 wrote: > People under hypnosis are aware of sounds, talking, and all stuff around them in a > distracted > sort of way. Regression has always been my passion as it allows one to go back > to the 'source' of a problem/issue and uncover what originally caused it. If it > is emotional....the hynotherapist will move you from active involvment in the > memory to observer position until you clear the emotion you have tied up. Once > the emotion (which has anchored in) is clear......then you can heal the issue. > One would not want to erase memory because you would then lose all the wisdom. > Rather it would be perferable to 'remember it' without any emotional > attachment. > Sherri Ah, Sheri, nice to have such an eloquent voice. This is what I wanted to say but did not know how to say it. Yes, yes. Remembering the situation without emotional attachment. I am taking a Soul Retrieval class from a student of Sandra Ingerman's, and part of the process of having a soul retrieval is reintegration of the " lost soul part " that dissociated due to trauma of some kind. It is emphasized that the part is not bringing the trauma back, only the personality aspects lost due to the trauma. Still, there is associative memory :-( I have noticed in myself that I am having very vivid dreams and recollections of my childhood and teen years, especially, and that I am very emotional as this progresses. Small steps, with visualization and self-hypnotic ritual, are helping me to welcome the spunky child and the fey teen back home. I suspect that there are many roads to Rome, and wonder if this process might be accomplished in an easier way through regression hypnosis. Thanks for the examples. Caro -- Caroline Abreu, BS, RN, CHTP/I, CRMT Energywork * Holistic Nursing * Shamanism " A Nurturing Touch " http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/Spa/5114/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 1999 Report Share Posted April 11, 1999 Anukki wrote: >How does this work? I thought when you did hypnosis, you would consciously >remember whatever went on in the session. Tell me more about this, please? Sometimes you do, sometimes you don't. Hypnotherapists who follow Milton Erickson's paradigm will often give the client permission to remember or forget, and let the client's unconscious make the choice. You're showing us one of the reasons you're a great teacher, Anukki — you're full of questions! Doc ********************* http://danke.com/ ********************* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 1999 Report Share Posted April 11, 1999 Caroline Abreu wrote: > Ah, Sheri, nice to have such an eloquent voice. who me? I was worried I was confusing. So I broke it down even more in another post. Whew! Good to know someone understands my ramblings. (grin) Especially since I wrote that before my first cup of morning tea. > I am taking a Soul Retrieval class from a student of Sandra Ingerman's, and part of > the process of having a soul retrieval is reintegration of the " lost soul part " that > dissociated due to trauma of some kind. I have a couple of her books and also her tape. I really like Sandra Ingerman's work. I had a lady do a soul retrieval for me. It was interesting. Considering some of the things in my life...I probably have soul parts scattered all over the universe. grin. I would love to take one of Sandra's Classes. Someday I will get around to this. My husband of 1.6 yrs. told me that the one thing he had learned from me thus far was 'it is fun' to go in and attack your shadows. Before he had lids and parameters around it as something bad. I tend to view shadow work as a 'great opportunity' to change my viewing point to MY liking rather than just what others impressed upon me. It is very lifting and healing. I tackle it with great enthusiasm. But then, I have always been kinda strange. grin. Sherri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 1999 Report Share Posted April 11, 1999 Seer7 wrote: > But then, I have always been kinda strange. grin. > Sherri LOL! Sherri, your kind of 'strange' seems to blend very well with my own! I am enjoying your posts immensely....please keep 'em coming. Thanks, Barbara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 1999 Report Share Posted April 11, 1999 That was an excellent explanation and it made a lot of sense. It would seem to be a good way to understand the connection of things. cas > I am a hard drive that goes by the title " c:\Sherri " Under this C:\Sherri are > subdirectories entitled: C:\Sherri\Relationships; C:\Sherri\Money > C:\Sherri\Animals (etc). Now under the C:\Sherri\Relationships are other > subdirectories once of which is called: C:\Sherri\Relationships\men > > C:\Sherri\Relationships\men\good > (all thoughts and emotions that men are good gets stored here) > > C:\Sherri\Relationships\men\bad (all thoughts and emotions that men are bad > stored here) > > When something comes along that supports the original thought of men are > bad...boom...moves right to the above subdirectory by our mind. Now this is an > acuumulated lifetime of thoughts and emotions so you can 'see' why issues get so > involved and how it is linked. See? > > Sherri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 1999 Report Share Posted April 11, 1999 cas wrote: > That was an excellent explanation and it made a lot of sense. > It would seem to be a good way to understand the connection > of things. Cas, Thank you. It is the easiest way I know of indexing it. Michael Ryce has a technique that allows one to see what they have 'programmed' about any subject. It is a long process but really interesting to play with. Say for instance I had a problem with being supported by my husband. I would write a statement that states the opposite of what I feel. Such as: I am always supported by my husband OR I am always supported by the men in my life. Then you write down every single word that pops up in your mind. Even if 50 of them is BULL you write BULL 50 times. When the information flow stops ...you re-write the sentence...and you continue in this fashion until you feel an inner prompt that you are done. (not a wall or blank as this is usually something that stops you from going farther and in that case you persist and continue to write the sentence). This can get really lengthy and time consuming if it is a big issue but what you have in your hands when you are done is your 'thought programming' that does or does not support the statement you wrote. thus you get a data read out of what is in your body/mind. It is really amazing to see what you pops out and how many repetitions you have about subjects. It works because the mind automatically throws up thoughts that will try 'solve' what you are attempting to do. And just for fun you can re-write it after that to: The men in my life don't support me and see what that pops out. Kinda interesting really. I have never tried it online but I am thinking that probably easier to type it than write it. grin. Probably also relates to what the lady wrote about free form journaling in a different fashion. And you can do this with any subject or issue. Sherri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 1999 Report Share Posted April 12, 1999 Lee Lawrence sez: > If a series of events resulted from unhealthy mental programming, such as > many abusive relationships, hypnosis works well to find the origination of > the programming. What happens if the original event happened at a pre-verbal stage in a life? The brain is not hooked up to remember things that happen at a tender age. Not hooked up to remember cognitively or sequentially, I mean. And it is not hooked up to talk about it, either. There are no words. How does hypnosis work then? Anukki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 1999 Report Share Posted April 12, 1999 Hypnosis works by distracting the ego. The sense of self that is established by the constant judgement and evaluation of what one is hearing is disconnected. You are providing a path which is based upon logical interpretation. With hypnosis the best path to the issue is with emotional bridges. Be careful with logic as the logical perception as viewed in current time of an event which happened in the past can be deceiving. The emotional perception can be totally different. An example would be; Missing a homework assignment when you were in first grade. Todays logical perception says, No big deal. However the emotional response may have said, Total disaster " To be avoided in the future at all cost. " The conscious programming discounts the event but the subconscious is still trying to resolve a fear. If a series of events resulted from unhealthy mental programming, such as many abusive relationships, hypnosis works well to find the origination of the programming. Without this the path cannot be corrected, no matter how many times we examine each of the subsequent relationships. I have worked with persons who have suffered from prolonged abuse, incest and or rape, and have found this to be true in each case. Everyone can be a subnambulist(sorry for spelling ). There are just different routes for them to get to that state of mind. Persons who meditate can reach an amnesia state much easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2001 Report Share Posted August 29, 2001 Crow wrote: << This article talks about the positive effects hypnosis has for people with irritable bowel syndrome: >> Speaking about the gut, my " gut feel " has always been that there is a LOT more to explore regarding the extent to which hypnosis can help various conditions. Various sources* tell us that we have an incredible, mostly UNTAPPED ability to create our own reality - which would include the condition of our physical bodies. Hypnosis could be a key to opening the door to those possibilities. * examples: Jane Roberts/Seth, Esther Hicks/Abraham, Lynn Grabhorn. Rich Putman in Minnesota USA Not one shred of evidence supports the notion that life is serious. <A HREF= " http://www.homestead.com/EarnSave/GroceryLetter.html " >Does a 30% grocery store discount ring your bell?</A> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2001 Report Share Posted August 29, 2001 Rich: I agree with you; our subconscious potential is a vast sea, and we have only put our toes in it as of yet. I find it ironic that the limits we place on ourselves ostensibly for safety and sanity often reduce our ability to appreciate our own expansiveness, like staying in the shallow end of the pool where you can always touch bottom. While there may be some physical limits to what we are capable of (we're not built with the physiognomy to fly or live underwater, for instance) there are no limits on the mind, and who is to say that the tilting of the mind might not encourage evolution or adaptation. We see this in the physical ability of the Inuit to live on a very limited diet, in the pearl or sponge diver's extended tenure underwater, in the Tibetan's tolerance of cold and altitude. We are certainly capable of expanding ourselves much farther than we credit ourselves with. Here's one for you... every time you see someone do something you perceive as astounding, tell yourself that you are capable of that as well. Maybe not this minute, but with training and trust and practice, yes. Hypnosis can reinforce that. --- Hojotoho!, Crow " Look for Rainbows in the Darkness " --- Caroline " Crow " Abreu >rputman > > >Re: hypnosis >Wed, 29 Aug 2001 10:18:07 EDT > >Crow wrote: ><< This article talks about the positive effects hypnosis has for > people with irritable bowel syndrome: >> > >Speaking about the gut, my " gut feel " has always been that there is a LOT >more to explore regarding the extent to which hypnosis can help various >conditions. Various sources* tell us that we have an incredible, mostly >UNTAPPED ability to create our own reality - which would include the >condition of our physical bodies. Hypnosis could be a key to opening the >door >to those possibilities. > >* examples: Jane Roberts/Seth, Esther Hicks/Abraham, Lynn Grabhorn. > >Rich Putman in Minnesota USA > _______________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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