Hypnosis

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Anukki wrote:

 

> Caro said:

 

> > It is amazing to me that hypnosis can help a person get to an issue

> > without having to consciously explore it; for those who have suffered

> > trauma, that must be a plus.

>

> How does this work? I thought when you did hypnosis, you would consciously

> remember whatever went on in the session. Tell me more about this, please?

>

> <sitting with ears all open>

> Anukki

 

It is my understanding, from my brief exploration and weekend classes in

beginning scripts and techniques, that you inform the person experiencing

hypnotherapy that they may choose to recall everything that happens during a

session if they desire, and that they are in complete control, so that if they

are uncomfortable they can leave the hypnotic state by simply opening their

eyes.

 

There is no " memory erasing " , but a person doesn't have to be consciously

wrestling with an emotional issue that they can deal with in the objective

mind with a lot more clarity. Instead of enhancing the subjectivity of an

episode and shoving a person through it, it goes cleanly to the cause and

helps the person resolve or release it. It is nigh nearly impossible to do

that when you are awake, and there is always a possibility of faulty, skewed,

or selective memory when you are conscious. No prejudices in the unconscious,

just the bare truth.

 

That is my understanding, at least. That, for instance, if you are hypnotised

to work with diabetes, you do not have to know why you have diabetes in order

for hypnosis to work.

 

In Good Health,

Caro

--

Caroline Abreu, BS, RN, CHTP/I, CRMT

Energywork * Holistic Nursing * Shamanism

 

" A Nurturing Touch "

http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/Spa/5114/

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Caroline Abreu wrote:

 

>

> > How does this work? I thought when you did hypnosis, you would consciously

> > remember whatever went on in the session. Tell me more about this, please?

 

Yes, most of the time you remember everything. However some people

" somnambulist "

(those that go very very deep) may not. The precentage of people who are

somnambulist is small and the type of person that the 'stage hynotherapist'

looks

for. NLP on the other hand does have the ability to erase memory. People

under

hypnosis are aware of sounds, talking, and all stuff around them in a distracted

sort of way. Regression has always been my passion as it allows one to go back

to the 'source' of a problem/issue and uncover what originally caused it. If

it

is emotional....the hynotherapist will move you from active involvment in the

memory to observer position until you clear the emotion you have tied up. Once

the emotion (which has anchored in) is clear......then you can heal the issue.

One would not want to erase memory because you would then lose all the wisdom.

Rather it would be perferable to 'remember it' without any emotional

attachment. People go in and out of mini 'trances' everyday. Ever been

driving somewhere and be lost in thought and look up and realize that you are 3

miles farther down the road? Car has been on autopilot? This is a mini trance

state.

You go in and out when you are going to sleep and wake up each day also.

Meditation is a form of this also. Issues within us cause problems because of

our 'emotional anchors'. ie...for example:

Say a member of your family constantly told you ...that you were worthless.

(bad,

no good whatever) as a small child. This anchors into you emotionally by your

emotions (body rememberance) about it. Now everyone you see in your lifetime

that seems to support (judge you worthless, no good etc) will link right back to

that original emotional trauma. (doesn't matter if it is right or wrong

judgements..) The mind will automatically link anything that 'seems' to

support

that right back to the original. ( think of it as a computer subdirectory...

entitled " worthless " .....all bits of information that seem to be revelent to

worthless is stored in that subdirectory as you move thru life). So you use

hypnosis regression to go back and discover the original source.......and use

NLP

to unlink the other bits of data that got attached to the first one. (am I

writing this in a way you understand??) You can always bring yourself out of

hypnosis by counting up. You also will not do anything that is against your

morals. You are ultimately in control. Stage hypnosis is done because the

people barking like dogs ...is not a moral issue....and they allow it.... see?

Issues gets stored in our memory/body originally by the emotion ...not by the

actual thought.. the emotion is the 'glue'. I like to think of it thus:

I am a hard drive that goes by the title " c:\Sherri " Under this C:\Sherri are

subdirectories entitled: C:\Sherri\Relationships; C:\Sherri\Money

C:\Sherri\Animals (etc). Now under the C:\Sherri\Relationships are other

subdirectories once of which is called: C:\Sherri\Relationships\men

 

C:\Sherri\Relationships\men\good

(all thoughts and emotions that men are good gets stored here)

 

C:\Sherri\Relationships\men\bad (all thoughts and emotions that men are bad

stored here)

 

When something comes along that supports the original thought of men are

bad...boom...moves right to the above subdirectory by our mind. Now this is an

acuumulated lifetime of thoughts and emotions so you can 'see' why issues get so

involved and how it is linked. See?

 

Sherri

[Guest guest]

OH PS..... Let me add to that ...

 

So to find the source of the making of the original subdirectory:

C:\Sherri\Relationships\Men\bad

I would use regression to go into that file and find the original (first) file

entry.

grin

Sherri

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Seer7 wrote:

 

> People under hypnosis are aware of sounds, talking, and all stuff around them

in a

> distracted

> sort of way. Regression has always been my passion as it allows one to go

back

> to the 'source' of a problem/issue and uncover what originally caused it. If

it

> is emotional....the hynotherapist will move you from active involvment in the

> memory to observer position until you clear the emotion you have tied up.

Once

> the emotion (which has anchored in) is clear......then you can heal the issue.

> One would not want to erase memory because you would then lose all the wisdom.

> Rather it would be perferable to 'remember it' without any emotional

> attachment.

 

> Sherri

 

Ah, Sheri, nice to have such an eloquent voice. This is what I wanted to say

but did

not know how to say it. Yes, yes. Remembering the situation without emotional

attachment.

 

I am taking a Soul Retrieval class from a student of Sandra Ingerman's, and part

of

the process of having a soul retrieval is reintegration of the " lost soul part "

that

dissociated due to trauma of some kind. It is emphasized that the part is not

bringing the trauma back, only the personality aspects lost due to the trauma.

Still,

there is associative memory :-( I have noticed in myself that I am having very

vivid

dreams and recollections of my childhood and teen years, especially, and that I

am

very emotional as this progresses. Small steps, with visualization and

self-hypnotic

ritual, are helping me to welcome the spunky child and the fey teen back home.

I

suspect that there are many roads to Rome, and wonder if this process might be

accomplished in an easier way through regression hypnosis.

 

Thanks for the examples.

Caro

--

Caroline Abreu, BS, RN, CHTP/I, CRMT

Energywork * Holistic Nursing * Shamanism

 

" A Nurturing Touch "

http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/Spa/5114/

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Anukki wrote:

>How does this work? I thought when you did hypnosis, you would consciously

>remember whatever went on in the session. Tell me more about this, please?

 

Sometimes you do, sometimes you don't. Hypnotherapists who follow Milton

Erickson's paradigm will often give the client permission to remember or

forget, and let the client's unconscious make the choice.

 

You're showing us one of the reasons you're a great teacher, Anukki — you're

full of questions!

 

Doc

 

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http://danke.com/

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Caroline Abreu wrote:

 

> Ah, Sheri, nice to have such an eloquent voice.

 

who me? I was worried I was confusing. So I broke it down even more in

another post.

Whew! Good to know someone understands my ramblings. (grin) Especially since

I wrote

that before my first cup of morning tea.

 

> I am taking a Soul Retrieval class from a student of Sandra Ingerman's, and

part of

> the process of having a soul retrieval is reintegration of the " lost soul

part " that

> dissociated due to trauma of some kind.

 

I have a couple of her books and also her tape. I really like Sandra

Ingerman's work.

I had a lady do a soul retrieval for me. It was interesting. Considering some

of the

things in my life...I probably have soul parts scattered all over the universe.

grin. I

would love to take one of Sandra's Classes. Someday I will get around to this.

My

husband of 1.6 yrs. told me that the one thing he had learned from me thus far

was 'it is

fun' to go in and attack your shadows. Before he had lids and parameters

around it as

something bad. I tend to view shadow work as a 'great opportunity' to change

my viewing

point to MY liking rather than just what others impressed upon me. It is very

lifting and

healing. I tackle it with great enthusiasm.

But then, I have always been kinda strange. grin.

Sherri

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Seer7 wrote:

 

> But then, I have always been kinda strange. grin.

> Sherri

 

LOL! Sherri, your kind of 'strange' seems to blend very well with

my own! I am enjoying your posts immensely....please keep 'em coming.

 

Thanks,

 

Barbara

[Guest guest]

That was an excellent explanation and it made a lot of sense.

It would seem to be a good way to understand the connection

of things.

 

cas

 

> I am a hard drive that goes by the title " c:\Sherri " Under this C:\Sherri

are

> subdirectories entitled: C:\Sherri\Relationships; C:\Sherri\Money

> C:\Sherri\Animals (etc). Now under the C:\Sherri\Relationships are other

> subdirectories once of which is called: C:\Sherri\Relationships\men

>

> C:\Sherri\Relationships\men\good

> (all thoughts and emotions that men are good gets stored here)

>

> C:\Sherri\Relationships\men\bad (all thoughts and emotions that men are bad

> stored here)

>

> When something comes along that supports the original thought of men are

> bad...boom...moves right to the above subdirectory by our mind. Now this is

an

> acuumulated lifetime of thoughts and emotions so you can 'see' why issues get

so

> involved and how it is linked. See?

>

> Sherri

[Guest guest]

cas wrote:

 

> That was an excellent explanation and it made a lot of sense.

> It would seem to be a good way to understand the connection

> of things.

 

Cas,

 

Thank you. It is the easiest way I know of indexing it. Michael Ryce has a

technique

that allows one to see what they have 'programmed' about any subject. It is a

long

process but really interesting to play with.

 

Say for instance I had a problem with being supported by my husband. I would

write a

statement that states the opposite of what I feel. Such as:

 

I am always supported by my husband OR I am always supported by the men in

my

life.

 

Then you write down every single word that pops up in your mind. Even if 50 of

them

is BULL you write BULL 50 times. When the information flow stops ...you

re-write the

sentence...and you continue in this fashion until you feel an inner prompt that

you

are done. (not a wall or blank as this is usually something that stops you from

going

farther and in that case you persist and continue to write the sentence).

This can get really lengthy and time consuming if it is a big issue but what you

have

in your hands when you are done is your 'thought programming' that does or does

not

support the statement you wrote. thus you get a data read out of what is in

your

body/mind. It is really amazing to see what you pops out and how many

repetitions you

have about subjects.

It works because the mind automatically throws up thoughts that will try 'solve'

what

you are attempting to do.

 

And just for fun you can re-write it after that to:

The men in my life don't support me and see what that pops out. Kinda

interesting really.

I have never tried it online but I am thinking that probably easier to type it

than

write it. grin.

Probably also relates to what the lady wrote about free form journaling in a

different

fashion.

And you can do this with any subject or issue.

 

Sherri

[Guest guest]

Lee Lawrence sez:

 

> If a series of events resulted from unhealthy mental programming, such as

> many abusive relationships, hypnosis works well to find the origination of

> the programming.

 

What happens if the original event happened at a pre-verbal stage in a life?

The brain is not hooked up to remember things that happen at a tender age.

Not hooked up to remember cognitively or sequentially, I mean. And it is not

hooked up to talk about it, either. There are no words. How does hypnosis

work then?

 

Anukki

[Guest guest]

Hypnosis works by distracting the ego. The sense of self that is

established by the constant judgement and evaluation of what one is hearing

is disconnected.

 

You are providing a path which is based upon logical interpretation. With

hypnosis the best path to the issue is with emotional bridges. Be careful

with logic as the logical perception as viewed in current time of an event

which happened in the past can be deceiving. The emotional perception can

be totally different. An example would be; Missing a homework assignment

when you were in first grade. Todays logical perception says, No big deal.

However the emotional response may have said, Total disaster " To be avoided

in the future at all cost. " The conscious programming discounts the event

but the subconscious is still trying to resolve a fear.

 

If a series of events resulted from unhealthy mental programming, such as

many abusive relationships, hypnosis works well to find the origination of

the programming. Without this the path cannot be corrected, no matter how

many times we examine each of the subsequent relationships. I have worked

with persons who have suffered from prolonged abuse, incest and or rape, and

have found this to be true in each case.

 

Everyone can be a subnambulist(sorry for spelling ). There are just

different routes for them to get to that state of mind. Persons who

meditate can reach an amnesia state much easier.

[Guest guest]

Crow wrote:

<< This article talks about the positive effects hypnosis has for

people with irritable bowel syndrome: >>

Speaking about the gut, my " gut feel " has always been that there is a LOT

more to explore regarding the extent to which hypnosis can help various

conditions. Various sources* tell us that we have an incredible, mostly

UNTAPPED ability to create our own reality - which would include the

condition of our physical bodies. Hypnosis could be a key to opening the door

to those possibilities.

 

* examples: Jane Roberts/Seth, Esther Hicks/Abraham, Lynn Grabhorn.

 

Rich Putman in Minnesota USA

 

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Rich:

 

I agree with you; our subconscious potential is a vast sea, and we have only

put our toes in it as of yet.

 

I find it ironic that the limits we place on ourselves ostensibly for safety

and sanity often reduce our ability to appreciate our own expansiveness,

like staying in the shallow end of the pool where you can always touch

bottom. While there may be some physical limits to what we are capable of

(we're not built with the physiognomy to fly or live underwater, for

instance) there are no limits on the mind, and who is to say that the

tilting of the mind might not encourage evolution or adaptation.

 

We see this in the physical ability of the Inuit to live on a very limited

diet, in the pearl or sponge diver's extended tenure underwater, in the

Tibetan's tolerance of cold and altitude. We are certainly capable of

expanding ourselves much farther than we credit ourselves with. Here's one

for you... every time you see someone do something you perceive as

astounding, tell yourself that you are capable of that as well. Maybe not

this minute, but with training and trust and practice, yes. Hypnosis can

reinforce that.

 

---

Hojotoho!,

Crow

" Look for Rainbows in the Darkness "

---

Caroline " Crow " Abreu

 

>rputman

>

>

>Re: hypnosis

>Wed, 29 Aug 2001 10:18:07 EDT

>

>Crow wrote:

><< This article talks about the positive effects hypnosis has for

> people with irritable bowel syndrome: >>

>

>Speaking about the gut, my " gut feel " has always been that there is a LOT

>more to explore regarding the extent to which hypnosis can help various

>conditions. Various sources* tell us that we have an incredible, mostly

>UNTAPPED ability to create our own reality - which would include the

>condition of our physical bodies. Hypnosis could be a key to opening the

>door

>to those possibilities.

>

>* examples: Jane Roberts/Seth, Esther Hicks/Abraham, Lynn Grabhorn.

>

>Rich Putman in Minnesota USA

>

 

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