Caroline Myss

[Guest guest]

Carolyn Mudgette, LMT wrote:

 

> I decided to join this list because the correlation between what we

> think and what we create fascinates me. I've watched Caroline Myss'

> video tapes and have had some exposure to Chakras. I've been aware

> of affirmations for years and have used them with great results. In

> my own personal growth, I feel that journaling is the " missing

> link " . I have to admit that there are things that I find myself

> resisting, so I have chosen to persist and join the list.

 

I like Caroline Myss' style, although I suppose some people might find

that sort of brutal honesty a little shocking at first. She doesn't

hold anything back, and I respect that.

 

I agree with you, that journalling and other expressive therapies are

some of the best ways to dig out our crap and make compost out of it

so we can grow... if you took a class in journalling, what sort of

things would you like to see, do, or hear?

 

There is a neat song on a Louise Hay tape called " Doors " . The words

are:

 

Doors Opening

Doors Closing

Doors Opening

Doors Closing

It's OK, it's only Change

It's OK, it's only Change...

 

I sing it whenever I hit a wall in my forward movement. It reminds me

that if I feel around, I can find a window, or a door, or at least, a

corner to go around. Resistance is futile <LOL>

 

In Good Health,

Caro

--

Caroline Abreu, BS, RN, CHTP/I, CRMT

Energywork * Holistic Nursing * Shamanism

 

" A Nurturing Touch "

http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/Spa/5114/

[Guest guest]

> It's OK, it's only Change...

 

They say it ain't change that hurts. It is resistance to change that hurts.

 

Resistance IS futile.

 

Anukki

[Guest guest]

> I like Caroline Myss' style, although I suppose some people might find

> that sort of brutal honesty a little shocking at first. She doesn't

> hold anything back, and I respect that.

 

What brutal honesty? I have never heard her speak or heard anything like

this. Can someone tell me more about her?

 

Anukki

[Guest guest]

But almost everyone hates change.

It's fine the way it is. Why change it?

 

cas

 

> > It's OK, it's only Change...

>

> They say it ain't change that hurts. It is resistance to change that hurts.

>

> Resistance IS futile.

>

> Anukki

[Guest guest]

Anukki wrote:

 

> > I like Caroline Myss' style, although I suppose some people might find

> > that sort of brutal honesty a little shocking at first. She doesn't

> > hold anything back, and I respect that.

>

> What brutal honesty? I have never heard her speak or heard anything like

> this. Can someone tell me more about her?

 

I would say that the best way to get introduced to Caroline Myss is with her

tape sets (Anatomy of the Spirit [2 tapes] or Energetic Anatomy [6 tapes]),

or watching her on her fairly frequent PBS appearances during " Pledge

Drive " time. She also has a video based on the Energetic Anatomy stuff, and

a new book called " Why People Don't Heal " which I'm sure will be developed

into a tape-workshop soon. You might note that there is a " book on tape "

for that, but it is not a workshop like the other tapes are.

 

Caroline Myss talks a lot about personal responsibility in healing, and the

importance of awareness and ownership. There is no blame in it, but there

is a lot of focus on internal locus of control. For some, who prefer to see

everything as external in locus, and like to see themselves as helpless

victims of others and fate, this can sound uncomfortable. For those people,

any self-responsibility is foreign, and possibly " evil " ... they see no

correlation between life occurences and life lessons, and could perceive no

reason why a person might unconsciously or karmically choose to have a

diesease or life experience that is unhappy or painful.

 

This a little clearer?

Caro

--

Caroline Abreu, BS, RN, CHTP/I, CRMT

Energywork * Holistic Nursing * Shamanism

 

" A Nurturing Touch "

http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/Spa/5114/

 

" The beauty remains; the pain passes. " Renoir

 

" Miracles are not contrary to nature, but only contrary to

what we know about nature. " St. Augustine

 

" We are pilgrims on a journey

through the darkness of the night

We are bound for other places

crossing to the other side " Roger Miller

[Guest guest]

cas wrote:

 

> But almost everyone hates change.

 

Why? It opens new possibilities and new adventures which adds exciiment to

life.

 

> It's fine the way it is. Why change it?

 

ITS FUN! if nothing changes, everything would be stagnant, like a yukky

covered

pond.

 

 

Sher

[Guest guest]

Cas:

 

Whether we like change or not, Cas, it is inevitable.

Some things may seem to be the same, but they are also subtly changing. Even a

play by Shakespeare, that has been the same words for hundreds of years, is

played by different actors all the time.

We grow older, the seasons change, compost happens.

 

Barbara (twobears) gave me the most wonderful old book when I visited her in

January about " Time for the Flowers " . It is a morality tale about life and love

and success and change and growth and relationship and a pair of caterpillars.

We can learn a lot about stuff like change from caterpillars ;-)

 

In Good Health,

Caro

 

cas wrote:

 

> " cas " <cas

>

> But almost everyone hates change.

> It's fine the way it is. Why change it?

>

> cas

>

> > > It's OK, it's only Change...

> >

> > They say it ain't change that hurts. It is resistance to change that hurts.

> >

> > Resistance IS futile.

> >

> > Anukki

[Guest guest]

I think this is where I'll jump in. First off, why did I join? Being a massage

therapist, Reiki Master/Teacher, as well as a Tai Chi teacher, I have a firm

belief in the body-mind connection. A more personal, though anecdotal reason,

was my own transformation in using the mind to assist body-oriented illness. To

explain: Had Chron's disease, re-sected bowel (only small intestine and 2/3

unattached colon remain), ended up with an ileostomy. Which was fine until

somewhere around the 1990 time frame, give or take a year. That's when the

Chron's re-manisfested itself, with a regimen of 20mg of Prednisone to start

with. Five years later, I was on a twin, yearly cycle of six months each, dosage

level of 100mgs. Didn't like where my life was going, or how I felt as a result

of long-term, high dosage, Prednisone maintenance. I had had enough. I decided

to enroll in massage therapy school, taking a step I had long been pondering.

And I took an even greater step. In a clear thinking way, I came to realize that

my mind had more control over how I felt, and who I was, than did my body. My

body is merely the vehicle that houses my mind and soul. I felt the body

shouldn't dictate what was happening, that the inner *me* should be making that

decision. And I did. After my final 100mg cycle, I ended my use of

non-corticosterroids, and as a result ended my battle with Chron's disease. I

haven't had any of the symptoms in the last 4 years or so, nor do I foresee a

re-occurrence of the disease. Why? Because mind and spirit came to battle, and

won. This little episode made me realize that Chron's disease is a dis-function

of the auto-immune system. Why else would the Chron's become more debilitating

as the dosage of Prednisone (auto-immune suppressant) increase? Now, my brother

has developed the same illness and doctor's speak of its relationship to the

auto-immune system. Go figure. They didn't know that 4 years ago. If they did,

they weren't talking. I truly believe that, as energetic beings, we can set the

stage for our own " play " of life. Perhaps, as many of us believe, we chose our

Path in the " between times " . Regardless whether one believes this or not, we

*do* have the ability to consciously chose how we will walk this Path, with

acceptance that all will transpire as it should, or that we are merely victims

and should be fighting our lot in life, with tooth and nail. Personally I opt

for the former of the two.

Now that the " Why did I join? " has been answered.........

 

Caroline Abreu wrote:

 

> Caroline Myss talks a lot about personal responsibility in healing, and the

> importance of awareness and ownership. There is no blame in it, but there

> is a lot of focus on internal locus of control.

 

Having listened to the Myss tapes several times, one example she gives stands

out above all others. I'll attempt to be brief. Each of us has a certain amount

of energy allotted to us, and whether one has " more " energy than another is

irrelevant. Looked at in more conventional terms, we can give this initial

amount the value of $1 (one dollar). When we become stressed as the result of,

oh, let's say our jobs, we expend (pay out) a certain amount of energy. Let's

give this value $.20 (twenty cents). Along comes family stress, requiring an

additional $.30. So now we have only half the amount we started with. Toss in

bills, vacation plans, taxes, etc. etc., and we eventually reach $.00 (zero).

The only problem is, that additional stresses come along, requiring us to

" borrow " a certain amount of energy. The result is that we move into the debit

area. So, where do we get the energy to meet the demands? Simple, from the very

cells of our body. We begin to develop dis-functions and illnesses. And the more

we pay out, the more the cells and organs of our body begin to pay. There are,

of course, ways to enhance our energetic " amounts " . Practices such as Tai Chi,

Yoga, Qigong, etc., personal maintenance such as exercise, diet, bodywork, etc.,

come to mind. However, unless we take ownership over the stresses and situations

that drain our energetic " bank account " , we will keep paying out. We may hold an

even balance, or perhaps show a small " profit " or gain. However, in the final

analysis, what drains the energy remains in place until we take ownership.

 

We can choose to view ourselves as victims, expending our personal energetic

bank accounts in an effort to maintain some type of stability. Or we can choose

to view ourselves as " bankers " , seeing each event in our lives as an opportunity

to increase the balance in our energetic accounts.

 

The views expressed are my own. I have had the help of family, friends,

" non " -friends, and others along the way (teachers, all) in developing these

viewpoints. Whether others ascribe to these same viewpoints is irrelevant. I do

not seek to dissuade any from their own beliefs or views on life, nor do I

recommend others to follow mine. We must, each of us, walk our own separate

Paths though others may help us along the way.

 

Manny

[Guest guest]

Caroline Abreu wrote:

 

> Whether we like change or not, Cas, it is inevitable.

> Some things may seem to be the same, but they are also subtly changing. Even

a

> play by Shakespeare, that has been the same words for hundreds of years, is

> played by different actors all the time.

> We grow older, the seasons change, compost happens.

 

And even if we could attain the " perfect " meditative state, requiring neither

food

nor water, shelter or clothing, still we change. All things change, some far

more

slowly than others, some aware of the change, and still others seemingly

oblivious

to change. Yet, the *only* guarantee in life *is* change.......

 

Manny

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/11/99 5:56:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

whiteowl writes:

 

<< Whether we like change or not, Cas, it is inevitable. >>My favorite quote

of all time is ... " The only constant is change " ...

 

and we gotta go with the flow!

[Guest guest]

How do you take ownership of a stress and a situation?

 

cas

 

> of course, ways to enhance our energetic " amounts " . Practices such as Tai Chi,

> Yoga, Qigong, etc., personal maintenance such as exercise, diet, bodywork,

etc.,

> come to mind. However, unless we take ownership over the stresses and

situations

> that drain our energetic " bank account " , we will keep paying out. We may hold

an

> even balance, or perhaps show a small " profit " or gain. However, in the final

> analysis, what drains the energy remains in place until we take ownership.

> Manny

[Guest guest]

At 10:12 AM 4/11/99 -0500, you wrote:

> " cas " <cas

>

>But almost everyone hates change.

I'm curious about this statement, cas. I revel in change...mind you, some

change can be devastating, but it's certainly always stimulating one way or

another. Why do you assume almost everyone hates it? I, and many people I

know, find that lack of change is stagnation...and that way lies death

(metaphorically speaking).

 

>It's fine the way it is. Why change it?

What's fine the way it is? What is so perfect that it cannot be improved? A

year ago, I was going through a personal upheaval, having just required my

spouse of almost 19 years to take himself elsewhere. I had not expected our

marriage to come to a shattering halt...which is how it seemed at the time.

HOWEVER, once he was gone, I realized what a burden he had become, and

although I was left a single mother to three, life took a major upswing!

Change is a certainty in life...might as well embrace it with all its

potentials!!

 

Chris(tina)

[Guest guest]

I understand what you are saying and I knew the statement wasn't true.

But my work has made me hate change and it just kind of slipped out

before I thought about it. It's something that is said often in our office

after an inspection and it's almost a joke. Being written though, it

does sound like I'm afraid of change.

You being able to adjust to such a major change in your life says a lot

for your strength.

 

cas

 

> >But almost everyone hates change.

> I'm curious about this statement, cas. I revel in change...mind you, some

> change can be devastating, but it's certainly always stimulating one way or

> another. Why do you assume almost everyone hates it? I, and many people I

> know, find that lack of change is stagnation...and that way lies death

> (metaphorically speaking).

>

> >It's fine the way it is. Why change it?

> What's fine the way it is? What is so perfect that it cannot be improved? A

> year ago, I was going through a personal upheaval, having just required my

> spouse of almost 19 years to take himself elsewhere. I had not expected our

> marriage to come to a shattering halt...which is how it seemed at the time.

> HOWEVER, once he was gone, I realized what a burden he had become, and

> although I was left a single mother to three, life took a major upswing!

> Change is a certainty in life...might as well embrace it with all its

> potentials!!

>

> Chris(tina)

[Guest guest]

cas wrote:

 

> How do you take ownership of a stress and a situation?

 

Here's how *I* do it. I look at all the factors creating the given

stress/situation. I

take responsibility for the factors under my control and seek to avoid similar

occurrences (remember, *I* control them.) Those factors *beyond* my control

would have

occurred regardless of what I might have done, so I don't accept responsibility

for

their occurrence.

If the stress/situation is the result of your action/inaction, learn from this,

and

attempt to avoid creating similar scenarios.

If the stress/situation is the result of something beyond your control, don't

accept

the responsibilty for having created it.

 

Manny

[Guest guest]

At 07:05 PM 4/11/99 -0500, you wrote:

> " cas " <cas

>

>I understand what you are saying and I knew the statement wasn't true.

>But my work has made me hate change and it just kind of slipped out

>before I thought about it. It's something that is said often in our office

>after an inspection and it's almost a joke. Being written though,

 

LOL. Been there, done that. I've worked in places that change meant

mind-boggling upheaval, and then usually worse conditions than before.

 

>does sound like I'm afraid of change.

>You being able to adjust to such a major change in your life says a lot

>for your strength.

 

Thank you. I imagine it helps that my life has been rife with change. I did

my 13 years of school in 9 schools, in 3 provinces in Canada, as well as 2

years in Ireland; I'm 41 years old and living in home #29 or 30, I just

forget at the moment. We've been in this house for 3 and a half years,

which seems like an age to me. But I like it here, and plan to stay for at

least another 5 or so...maybe longer. Still...it's important to me to

keep my eye out for opportunities, which almost always involve major

change...either in my external surroundings, or in my internal processes.

 

I wish you luck in your search for your own path. It's not always easy

finding ourselves.

 

Blessings,

 

Chris

[Guest guest]

> cas wrote:

>

> > How do you take ownership of a stress and a situation?

>

 

Heres how " I " do it. First of all I look for the mirror. (what it is I am

stressed

about) and see what inside of me is reacting and where the feeling is located

within my

body. I then do some deep breathing and send the inhaled breath to that part of

my

body...and realize that it is only energy and release the tension...... When I

am calmed

down somewhat... I look to see 'what' it was about the situation that triggered

me.

ie...what is inside of me that reacted and why did it react. I find that in

most

cases.... usually anything I have a negative feeling about..(to whatever

degree) is

something I have denied and suppressed about myself. For instance..... say

that someone

I know is still angrily dwelling on a fight that happened 6 weeks ago. It

causes

frustration/anger/ (any negative emotion) ...to rise within me about 'them'.

The mirror

I need to heal within would be: Where do I dwell on the past and refuse to let

it go and

move on. See? This is how I heal issues within myself. The good thing about

mirrors

is: everything I see that is 'good' in others also is inside of me. grin.

But that is

just how I handle it. If something happens and I just observe it without any

negative

judgements or emotions then I know it is within the other and not me...and I am

just

observing. Kinda tricky sometimes to see exactly " what " the mirror is. For

instance...... I could HATE a thief and since I don't steal.... I wouldn't be

able to see

" how " that was a part of me. So I would look for the subtle things that aren't

apparent. such as: taking someone's energy... or anything I may of taken

in my life

that wasn't mine....... a man from another girl perhaps.... or not being

willing to

work towards something and just want someone else to hand it to me.. conquest

and power

issue perhaps...

Sometimes it is hard to figure out what the mirror is...takes a little detective

work....

but if there is a negative reaction inside of me.....somehow or another it is

hitting

something I don't want to see about myself.

But that is just my way and there are many ways of doing it.

Sherri

[Guest guest]

Seer7 wrote:

 

> Sometimes it is hard to figure out what the mirror is...takes a little

detective work....

 

I've heard it said, that during times of stress, we should look into the mirror,

for therein

lies the cause, and the solution; and during times of great joy, we should look

into the

mirror also, for we shall find the same answer.

 

Manny

[Guest guest]

Manny Abreu wrote:

 

> Manny Abreu <whiteowl

>

> I've heard it said, that during times of stress, we should look into the

mirror, for therein

> lies the cause, and the solution; and during times of great joy, we should

look into the

> mirror also, for we shall find the same answer.

 

HO!

 

Sherri

[Guest guest]

PATTIMACK wrote:

 

> > " The only constant is change " ...

>

> and we gotta go with the flow!

 

<LOL> It sure is a lot tougher to swim " upstream " .......

 

Man

[Guest guest]

Seer7 wrote:

 

>

> > Manny Abreu <whiteowl

> >

> > I've heard it said, that during times of stress, we should look into the

mirror, for therein

> > lies the cause, and the solution; and during times of great joy, we should

look into the

> > mirror also, for we shall find the same answer.

>

> HO!

 

Would that be Master Ho? I'm not sure *who* made that statement. <LMAO>

 

Also liking this list,

Man

[Guest guest]

Manny Abreu wrote:

 

> Would that be Master Ho? I'm not sure *who* made that statement. <LMAO>

 

ROFL Twas a universal HO!

complete agreement!

Sherri

[Guest guest]

I'm finding that to be very true for me...

, Anukki (AT) xxx (DOT) xxx wrote:

>

> > It's OK, it's only Change...

>

> They say it ain't change that hurts. It is resistance to change that

hurts.

>

> Resistance IS futile.

>

> Anukki

[Guest guest]

With regard to making compost out of crap: In his autobiography,

Jung said " That cabbages thrive in dung was something I had always

taken for granted. " Well, I suppose people can " be like cabbages " in

the sense that they can thrive in their circumstnces, not

necessarily in spite of them...

, Caroline Abreu <crow (AT) xxxxxxxx (DOT) xxxx

wrote:

> Carolyn Mudgette, LMT wrote:

>

> > I decided to join this list because the correlation between what

we

> > think and what we create fascinates me. I've watched Caroline

Myss'

> > video tapes and have had some exposure to Chakras. I've been

aware

> > of affirmations for years and have used them with great results.

In

> > my own personal growth, I feel that journaling is the " missing

> > link " . I have to admit that there are things that I find myself

> > resisting, so I have chosen to persist and join the list.

>

> I like Caroline Myss' style, although I suppose some people might

find

> that sort of brutal honesty a little shocking at first. She

doesn't

> hold anything back, and I respect that.

>

> I agree with you, that journalling and other expressive therapies

are

> some of the best ways to dig out our crap and make compost out of

it

> so we can grow... if you took a class in journalling, what sort of

> things would you like to see, do, or hear?

>

> There is a neat song on a Louise Hay tape called " Doors " . The

words

> are:

>

> Doors Opening

> Doors Closing

> Doors Opening

> Doors Closing

> It's OK, it's only Change

> It's OK, it's only Change...

>

> I sing it whenever I hit a wall in my forward movement. It

reminds me

> that if I feel around, I can find a window, or a door, or at

least, a

> corner to go around. Resistance is futile <LOL>

>

> In Good Health,

> Caro

> --

> Caroline Abreu, BS, RN, CHTP/I, CRMT

> Energywork * Holistic Nursing * Shamanism

>

> " A Nurturing Touch "

> http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/Spa/5114/