Diabetes cure (?)

[Guest guest]

Marti,

 

I just read something that should be of interest to a lot of people. Of course this herb will be top priority for the FDA to force off the market as fast as they can so consider yourself warned.

 

Not sure where diabetes stands but it has to be in the top 4 or 5 of severe diseases. It is the leading cause of blindness, leading cause of foot and leg amputations, leading cause of end-stage kidney disease, it more than doubles your risk of a heart attack and almost triples your risk of a stroke. There is a Dr. David Williams who has a newsletter, who says diabetes can be cured in some people, and the herb gymnema sylvestre has been used for centuries to alleviate the symptoms of diabetes. A new concentrated extract of the plant actually re-generates pancreas cells. In one study, the gymnema extract actually doubled the number of insulin producing cells in the pancreas. It works as well on juvenile diabetes as on adult-onset diabetes.

 

I have a friend who has severe diabetes. He told me they were doing an experiment of injecting pancreas cells into the body and they were going to the proper place and producing insulin; this was reversing 100% of the diabetics. He tried to be in the test but wasn't chosen. This has been over a year ago. Has anyone heard anything more about this experiment? My friend moved to CO and I haven't heard anything else. Just wanted to mention this in case anyone might want to check out this cure.

 

I have another friend who uses chelation drip that he swears by. He said his feet were black and the first time he used the chelation, for a long time, he felt nothing. Then all of a sudden, he felt tingling in his feet as though they had been asleep and shortly afterward they turned back to pink. Not sure how often or how long you have to do this kind of thing but he says it saved his feet for sure and maybe his legs from amputation.

 

Jean Baugh

*************************

causing my blood sugar to elevate and since I had to get the blood sugar down quickly I had to stop taking it. Right at the moment I'm not taking any of the medication the doctor gave me and I want to do an internal cleansing before giving up and going back on Glucatrol. I was diagnosed as diabetic 8 years ago and until this year have been able to keep it in control without medication. If there is anything that will help normalize me so I don't have to take any prescriptions I want to do it. Marti

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Jean. I will look into gymnema extract.

I'll also go back to the files on this list, too, because I'm sure I read

there about curing diabetes. My dad was diagnosed with it in his

60's. I was 58 and my sister now has been told she has it and she's

in her 60's. My dad was overweight, but neither my sister nor I are.

I really believe it can be cured without artificial

medicine.

Marti

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

I am not trying to censor anyone, believe me, but that is the same thing that I

was doing (quoting a " supposedly knowledgeable source " ) when Doc told me if you

haven't done the research, or tried the product, or know someone that was cured

by the product, don't spread that kind of news on this web site! I guess that

it's a black and white issue with no gray area!

 

I was quoting that same doctor, and I know that I've heard AND read alot about

Gymneme Sylvestre, but...that is hearsay, at least with me!!

 

This kinda limits access to a variety of topics to research, but, on the other

hand, it does quell a lot of rumors, too!

 

Steve

-----------------------------

Marti,

 

I just read something that should be of interest to a lot of people. Of co urse

this herb will be top priority for the FDA to force off the market as fast as

they can so consider yourself warned.

 

Not sure where diabetes stands but it has to be in the top 4 or 5 of severe

diseases. It is the leading cause of blindness, leading cause of foot and

leg amputations, leading cause of end-stage kidney disease, it more than d

oubles your risk of a heart attack and almost triples your risk of a stroke .

There is a Dr. David Williams who has a newsletter, who says diabetes ca n be

cured in some people, and the herb gymnema sylvestre has been used for

centuries to alleviate the symptoms of diabetes. A new concentrated extra ct

of the plant actually re-generates pancreas cells. In one study, the gy mnema

extract actually doubled the number of insulin producing cells in the

pancreas. It works as well on juvenile diabetes as on adult-onset diabete s.

 

I have a friend who has severe diabetes. He told me they were doing an exp

eriment of injecting pancreas cells into the body and they were going to th e

proper place and producing insulin; this was reversing 100% of the diabet ics.

He tried to be in the test but wasn't chosen. This has been over a y ear ago.

Has anyone heard anything more about this experiment? My friend moved to CO

and I haven't heard anything else. Just wanted to mention this

in case anyone might want to check out this cure.

 

I have another friend who uses chelation drip that he swears by. He said h is

feet were black and the first time he used the chelation, for a long tim e, he

felt nothing. Then all of a sudden, he felt tingling in his feet as though

they had been asleep and shortly afterward they turned back to pink.

Not sure how often or how long you have to do this kind of thing but he s ays

it saved his feet for sure and maybe his legs from amputation.

 

Jean Baugh

*************************

causing my blood sugar to elevate and since I had to get the blood sugar down

quickly I had to stop taking it.

Right at the moment I'm not taking any of the medication the doctor gave me

and I want to do an internal cleansing before giving up and going back o n

Glucatrol. I was diagnosed as diabetic 8 years ago and until this year h ave

been able to keep it in control without medication.

 

If there is anything that will help normalize me so I don't have to take any

prescriptions I want to do it.

 

Marti

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Whoooooa there! I don't know where this thread originated from or what sparked this but I just got back to the list, and let me clarify and elaborate on the point.

 

The main policy on this may need to be read again by a few of you (I'll repost), but this is the gist of it and why that policy exists. If the policy need fine tuning then, I'll do that as time allows and I welcome any 'private' input on it.

 

Too often in the past some people have felt it 'cool' or 'helpful' to post reams and reams of data from all kinds of sources (a lot of it medical or pharmaceutical) without having a clue as to whether or not what they were posting was actually helpful or if it really worked. They certainly weren't speaking from experience or from their own research and this not only clutters up the list with potentially useless data but actually opens the door to false information being promulgated. Why do some people feel they need to do this - I don't know. Maybe they feel like this action makes them important or makes them seem knowledgeable and they're trying to 'look good' , or "I just thought everyone would like to know", or whatever, and I could care less what their motivations are but these kinds of contributions are useless to a list like ours.

 

The main focus of the list has always centered around personal experience and/or personal observation.

IE. You DID it yourself; You DID it on another; or You saw someone else DO it.

 

If you are going to quote an 'authority', best is if you have had first hand experience and or observation on what the subject matter is all about. Giving a referrence is totally OK. ASKING for first hand experience is OK and encouraged. Very often you'll see me put in one of ole Doc Christopher's quotes on a particular cure or handling and you can bet that I've tried it. If I haven't, I'll say so and ASK if anyone has tried so and so... First hand observation is extremely important to all of us.

 

Now, I've let a lot of, "my sister told me...", "my doctor said...", "my mother had..." and so on, and so on, get posted to the list without ever saying anything too much about it and this kind of chat doesn't really hurt in most instances. It's the reams and reams of quoting from some pharmacoepia tome especially when not asked for that tends to blow us all away. It's just not necessary. The excerpt from the General List Policy follows.

 

Love,

Doc

 

7. Any Natural Remedy promoted on the list must be done so from the viewpoint of personal experience of the remedy that has been proven to be tried and true. There is too much false data out there as to what works and what doesn't and only those with a proven track record should be promoted and discussed on the list. Once a Topic is opened as above, it is fair game for broad discussion.8. One of the basic goals of this list is to get rid of the tremendous amount of false data and false information on natural healing. This is no small goal as the field is rampant with bad information and downright lies. There is a lot of confusion and lack of coordination. Please help me with this for it is vital.9. This list is Naturopathic and deals with all natural remedies and Nutrition only. Allopathic medical treatment and psychiatric treatment are extremely destructive to the health of human beings and promotion or discussion of such is OT (off topic). However, how to handle the destructive results of such treatment using natural methods is definitely ON topic.

 

Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington

 

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Steve

herbal remedies

Sunday, August 19, 2001 4:17 PM

Re:[herbal remedies] Diabetes cure (?)

I am not trying to censor anyone, believe me, but that is the same thing that I was doing (quoting a "supposedly knowledgeable source") when Doc told me if you haven't done the research, or tried the product, or know someone that was cured by the product, don't spread that kind of news on this web site! I guess that it's a black and white issue with no gray area!I was quoting that same doctor, and I know that I've heard AND read alot about Gymneme Sylvestre, but...that is hearsay, at least with me!!This kinda limits access to a variety of topics to research, but, on the other hand, it does quell a lot of rumors, too!Steve-----------------------------Marti,I just read something that should be of interest to a lot of people. Of co urse this herb will be top priority for the FDA to force off the market as fast as they can so consider yourself warned. Not sure where diabetes stands but it has to be in the top 4 or 5 of severediseases. It is the leading cause of blindness, leading cause of foot andleg amputations, leading cause of end-stage kidney disease, it more than d oubles your risk of a heart attack and almost triples your risk of a stroke . There is a Dr. David Williams who has a newsletter, who says diabetes ca n be cured in some people, and the herb gymnema sylvestre has been used forcenturies to alleviate the symptoms of diabetes. A new concentrated extra ct of the plant actually re-generates pancreas cells. In one study, the gy mnema extract actually doubled the number of insulin producing cells in thepancreas. It works as well on juvenile diabetes as on adult-onset diabete s. I have a friend who has severe diabetes. He told me they were doing an exp eriment of injecting pancreas cells into the body and they were going to th e proper place and producing insulin; this was reversing 100% of the diabet ics. He tried to be in the test but wasn't chosen. This has been over a y ear ago. Has anyone heard anything more about this experiment? My friend moved to CO and I haven't heard anything else. Just wanted to mention thisin case anyone might want to check out this cure. I have another friend who uses chelation drip that he swears by. He said h is feet were black and the first time he used the chelation, for a long tim e, he felt nothing. Then all of a sudden, he felt tingling in his feet as though they had been asleep and shortly afterward they turned back to pink. Not sure how often or how long you have to do this kind of thing but he s ays it saved his feet for sure and maybe his legs from amputation. Jean Baugh************************* causing my blood sugar to elevate and since I had to get the blood sugar down quickly I had to stop taking it. Right at the moment I'm not taking any of the medication the doctor gave me and I want to do an internal cleansing before giving up and going back o n Glucatrol. I was diagnosed as diabetic 8 years ago and until this year h ave been able to keep it in control without medication. If there is anything that will help normalize me so I don't have to take any prescriptions I want to do it. Marti ***[This message has been truncated.]Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

[Guest guest]

Most definitely. I just helped one of my patients handle her diabetes in three weeks. It's been about 4 weeks since then and her numbers are still down. She calls me at least once a week kinda, sorta still in disbelief and keeps testing but they continue to be down despite the fact that she now eats fruit. Not everyone's that fast, but it can be handled terminatedly and it doesn't have to take forever.

Love,

Doc

 

Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington

 

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MartiWI

herbal remedies

Saturday, August 18, 2001 8:32 PM

Re: [herbal remedies] Diabetes cure (?)

Thanks, Jean. I will look into gymnema extract. I'll also go back to the files on this list, too, because I'm sure I read there about curing diabetes. My dad was diagnosed with it in his 60's. I was 58 and my sister now has been told she has it and she's in her 60's. My dad was overweight, but neither my sister nor I are. I really believe it can be cured without artificial medicine. Marti Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

[Guest guest]

ok doc spill the beans - is there a special 'mix' you gave for this

janice

 

herbal remedies, " Ian Shillington N.D. "

<Dr.IanShillington@G...> wrote:

> Most definitely. I just helped one of my patients handle her

diabetes

> in three weeks. It's been about 4 weeks since then and her numbers

are

> still down. She calls me at least once a week kinda, sorta still in

> disbelief and keeps testing but they continue to be down despite the

> fact that she now eats fruit. Not everyone's that fast, but it can

be

> handled terminatedly and it doesn't have to take forever.

> Love,

> Doc

>

[Guest guest]

Welllll Janice (LOL), I wish I could claim to be really clever on this one but I can't. I was expecting to put my patient on some special programs after she had done the Total Body Cleanse 4 week program (as outlined in the files), but she had the nerve to cure herself of the Diabetes during the Liver/Gallbladder Flush part of the program. She's still doing great and the numbers are still down (and I mean totally in the normal range). By the way, even though it is not promoted, the LG part of the program also tends to cleanse the Pancreas to a greater or lesser degree as well.

Love,

Doc

 

Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington

ok doc spill the beans - is there a special 'mix' you gave for thisjaniceherbal remedies, "Ian Shillington N.D." <Dr.IanShillington@G...> wrote:> Most definitely. I just helped one of my patients handle her diabetes> in three weeks. It's been about 4 weeks since then and her numbers are> still down. She calls me at least once a week kinda, sorta still in> disbelief and keeps testing but they continue to be down despite the> fact that she now eats fruit. Not everyone's that fast, but it can be> handled terminatedly and it doesn't have to take forever.> Love,> Doc

[Guest guest]

Are you insulin dependant or not?

 

Steve

-----------------------------

I have diabetes were can I get this herb I would love to try it I am going

blind I just got new glasses three months ago then I could see to thread a

needle now just this short time latter I have to get my daughter to do it for

me again.

 

oldglory wrote:

 

> Marti,

>

>

>

>

>

> Not sure where diabetes stands but it has to be in the top 4 or 5 of

> severe diseases. It is the leading cause of blindness, leading cause

> of foot and leg amputations, leading cause of end-stage kidney

> disease, it more than doubles your risk of a heart attack and almost

> triples your risk of a stroke. There is a Dr. David Williams who has

> a newsletter, who says diabetes can be cured in some people, and the

> herb gymnema sylvestre has been used for centuries to alleviate the

> symptoms of diabetes. A new concentrated extract of the plant

> actually re-generates pancreas cells. In one study, the gymnema

> extract actually doubled the number of insulin producing cells in the

> pancreas. It works as well on juvenile diabetes as on adult-onset

> diabetes.

>

>

>

> I have a friend who has severe diabetes. He told me they were doing

> an experiment of injecting pancreas cells into the body and they were

> going to the proper place and producing insulin; this was reversing

> 100% of the diabetics. He tried to be in the test but wasn't chosen.

> This has been over a year ago. Has anyone heard anything more about

> this experiment? My friend moved to CO and I haven't heard anything

> else. Just wanted to mention this in case anyone might want to check

> out this cure.

>

>

>

> I have another friend who uses chelation drip that he swears by. He

> said his feet were black and the first time he used the chelation, for

> a long time, he felt nothing. Then all of a sudden, he felt tingling

> in his feet as though they had been asleep and shortly afterward they

> turned back to pink. Not sure how often or how long you have to do

> this kind

>

 

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[Guest guest]

I have diabetes were can I get this herb I would

love to try it I am going blind I just got new glasses three months ago then

I could see to thread a needle now just

this short time latter I have to get my daughter to do it for me again.

 

oldglory wrote:

 

Marti,

 

 

Not sure where diabetes stands but it

has to be in the top 4 or 5 of severe diseases. It is the leading cause

of blindness, leading cause of foot and leg amputations, leading cause of

end-stage kidney disease, it more than doubles your risk of a heart attack

and almost triples your risk of a stroke. There is a Dr. David Williams

who has a newsletter, who says diabetes can be cured in some people, and

the herb gymnema sylvestre has been used for centuries to alleviate the

symptoms of diabetes. A new concentrated extract of the plant actually

re-generates pancreas cells. In one study, the gymnema extract actually

doubled the number of insulin producing cells in the pancreas. It works

as well on juvenile diabetes as on adult-onset diabetes.

 

I have a friend who has severe diabetes.

He told me they were doing an experiment of injecting pancreas cells into

the body and they were going to the proper place and producing insulin;

this was reversing 100% of the diabetics. He tried to be in the test but

wasn't chosen. This has been over a year ago. Has anyone heard anything

more about this experiment? My friend moved to CO and I haven't heard anything

else. Just wanted to mention this in case anyone might want to check out

this cure.

 

I have another friend who uses chelation

drip that he swears by. He said his feet were black and the first time

he used the chelation, for a long time, he felt nothing. Then all of a

sudden, he felt tingling in his feet as though they had been asleep and

shortly afterward they turned back to pink. Not sure how often or how long

you have to do this kind

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

 

 

Marti,

 

I ordered a 2 year subscription with Dr. David Williams and part of the subscription will be information on where to buy this diabetes product. I will be happy to let you know as soon as I receive it but please jog me if I forget. I need memory pills!

 

I bet this information might be on the internet. Will check it out. Also, you can buy this by the lb. from Frontier Herb Co. for $8.90. If you knew the strength, and how to make an extract, which I assume is pretty strong, you could make it yourself. Their phone number for a catalog is: 800-717-4372

 

I hope you can reverse! This sounds very serious! Have you checked into the cell injections? I have no idea where to look but surely there would be information on the internet.

 

Jean

*************

I have diabetes were can I get this herb I would love to try it I am going blind I just got new glasses three months ago then I could see to thread a needle now just this short time latter I have to get my daughter to do it for me again.oldglory wrote:

 

Marti,

 

 

Not sure where diabetes stands but it has to be in the top 4 or 5 of severe diseases. It is the leading cause of blindness, leading cause of foot and leg amputations, leading cause of end-stage kidney disease, it more than doubles your risk of a heart attack and almost triples your risk of a stroke. There is a Dr. David Williams who has a newsletter, who says diabetes can be cured in some people, and the herb gymnema sylvestre has been used for centuries to alleviate the symptoms of diabetes. A new concentrated extract of the plant actually re-generates pancreas cells. In one study, the gymnema extract actually doubled the number of insulin producing cells in the pancreas. It works as well on juvenile diabetes as on adult-onset diabetes.

 

I have a friend who has severe diabetes. He told me they were doing an experiment of injecting pancreas cells into the body and they were going to the proper place and producing insulin; this was reversing 100% of the diabetics. He tried to be in the test but wasn't chosen. This has been over a year ago. Has anyone heard anything more about this experiment? My friend moved to CO and I haven't heard anything else. Just wanted to mention this in case anyone might want to check out this cure.

 

I have another friend who uses chelation drip that he swears by. He said his feet were black and the first time he used the chelation, for a long time, he felt nothing. Then all of a sudden, he felt tingling in his feet as though they had been asleep and shortly afterward they turned back to pink. Not sure how often or how long you have to do this kind

 

 

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Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington