Guest guest Posted March 24, 2001 Report Share Posted March 24, 2001 Dear Michelle, You're welcome for the recipe and I'm glad you enjoy it. I love the taste of it myself. Most likely the final product was too saturated to aborb any more minerals. I've never heard of anyone else trying to 2X the formula but it was worth a try and I commend your pioneer spirit. It is not too important to aerate it as that tech only helps to get as much of the mineral ingredients as possible. The more loosely packed the eggs the less you'd need to aerate it. Love, Doc Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington Hey there. I am usually just lurking on this list but I have to chime in on the Lemon Egg Exprience. I used a smaller jar. I fit 3 organic eggs in it with the lemon juice (which weren't organic... I didn't even think about it...). I had those eggs in for a few days until I read that they were supposed to only be in there 48 hrs. I took 'em out (and man, were they SOFT) and I put another 2 fresh eggs in. Took them out after 2 days and they weren't soft at all... maybe the solution is saturated? Anyway... I love this stuff! Had a few spoonfuls straight from the jar and it is mild, IMHO. Now, I kept forgetting to aerate it...is this very important? And what about the organic lemons?Thanks for the recipe, Ian.Michelle-Lee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2001 Report Share Posted August 11, 2001 Does the lemon kill salmonella in the egg? What does it taste like? How often do you drink it? TIA Denise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2001 Report Share Posted August 13, 2001 You can take 1 to 3 doses (tablespoons) a day with great results. I've taken over 3 times that amount with no negative effects. In regards salmonella: How many people do you know that have that disease???? It is not very common and is mostly contracted from poorly cooked chicken. It is rarely found on the outside of unwashed eggs and to my knowledge never found on the inside. Salmonella is one of those diseases that the main line medical profession scares us with but most MDs (the honest ones) I've talked to rarely or have never seen a case. Even if you get salmonella, in most cases, it is no more serious than a mild cold or mild flu. Most commercially raised chicken is loaded with salmonella but due to the cooking, the disease is never contracted. As far as the taste is concerned, it kinda tastes like lemon merangue chalk ;o) Love, Doc Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington - Denise O'Connor herbal remedies Saturday, August 11, 2001 2:45 PM [herbal remedies] lemon egg Does the lemon kill salmonella in the egg? What does it taste like? Howoften do you drink it?TIADenise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2001 Report Share Posted August 13, 2001 Additional hint. Thoroughly rinse your organic all natural eggs in warm water, and you'll have no problem. Love, Doc Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington - Ian Shillington N.D. herbal remedies Sunday, August 12, 2001 8:29 PM Re: [herbal remedies] lemon egg You can take 1 to 3 doses (tablespoons) a day with great results. I've taken over 3 times that amount with no negative effects. In regards salmonella: How many people do you know that have that disease???? It is not very common and is mostly contracted from poorly cooked chicken. It is rarely found on the outside of unwashed eggs and to my knowledge never found on the inside. Salmonella is one of those diseases that the main line medical profession scares us with but most MDs (the honest ones) I've talked to rarely or have never seen a case. Even if you get salmonella, in most cases, it is no more serious than a mild cold or mild flu. Most commercially raised chicken is loaded with salmonella but due to the cooking, the disease is never contracted. As far as the taste is concerned, it kinda tastes like lemon merangue chalk ;o) Love, Doc Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2001 Report Share Posted August 13, 2001 when i started raising some chickens, a couple of years ago, and we got our fresh eggs, which by the way we never refrigerate, i was told not to wash them. washing them takes away a protective coating and makes them more porous to the outside bacteria. if they were dirty i would take a dry cloth and wipe them off. we have used raw eggs and never had a problem. rhoda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2001 Report Share Posted August 13, 2001 Dear Rhoda, Thanks for your input on this. And I bet you've never had a problem with salmonella either. Love, Doc Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington when i started raising some chickens, a couple of years ago, and we got our fresh eggs, which by the way we never refrigerate, i was told not to wash them. washing them takes away a protective coating and makes them more porous to the outside bacteria. if they were dirty i would take a dry cloth and wipe them off. we have used raw eggs and never had a problem. rhoda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2001 Report Share Posted August 14, 2001 I've been adding raw ORGANIC eggs to my drink ever since I personally had this same discussion with out a couple of months ago, Ian. Thing is this: you don't have a television. Some people like us have seen some horrific exposes, and though I don't recall the details, I do remember one really disgusting one on eggs, which made me never want to eat another egg again as long as I lived. They are mishandled something terrific as well as not being refrigerated for ages, and it was enough for me. After you wrote, I decided that on the other hand, hopefully organic eggs were better handled since surely they would be in the hands of completely different people who actually might care about them. I am doing just fine on the raw ORGANIC eggs, but, Ian, if you had seen an expose like this one, I do think you too would feel uncomfortable about eating eggs in general, even if you didn't get salmonella. Valerie "Ian Shillington N.D." <Dr.IanShillington wrote: Dear Rhoda, Thanks for your input on this. And I bet you've never had a problem with salmonella either. Love, Doc Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington when i started raising some chickens, a couple of years ago, and we got our fresh eggs, which by the way we never refrigerate, i was told not to wash them. washing them takes away a protective coating and makes them more porous to the outside bacteria. if they were dirty i would take a dry cloth and wipe them off. we have used raw eggs and never had a problem. rhodaFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2001 Report Share Posted August 20, 2001 Hey Valerie, Good to hear from you again. You're right about me not having a TV, but I stay very connected to the health scene through the Internet and through my connections. If this expose is the one I'm thinking of, it had to do with the production of commercial eggs, not organic or free range. You are absolutely right when it comes to commercial production including the raising of chickens for meat. It is beyond disgusting. I don't see how they can do those things to another living creature. As far as refrigerated eggs are concerned, you can actually let an egg sit for several weeks at room temperature and it will not spoil as long as it isn't cracked. If you raise your own, this is actually the best way to go as more of the enzymes are preserved. The organic store bought may be a little 'iffy' as they don't tell you when the egg was layed, but I've never had a problem with them either as long as they were free range. All of the organic farmers around me (and there are lots) who raise their own chickens seem to have a natural reverence for their animals and love them as I do mine, treating them with respect and caring. Even when I use one for meat on the table, I thank it for contributing to the survival of my family. I'm glad you're doing great on the raw ORGANIC eggs as I have done for years now. The problem with some of these exposes is that even though they may or may not be on the right track, very seldom do they give the whole story, not necessarily through viciousness but through ignorance. There's a lot of garbage on TV, a lot. I recommend to all of my really ill patients that they don't watch TV or read any newspapers, and you know what? After about a week, they call me up and tell me how at peace they feel and that their lives are a lot less stressful. My feelings on TV's and newspapers = I don't eat garbage. Why should I allow it in my mind? Love, Doc Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington I've been adding raw ORGANIC eggs to my drink ever since I personally had this same discussion with out a couple of months ago, Ian. Thing is this: you don't have a television. Some people like us have seen some horrific exposes, and though I don't recall the details, I do remember one really disgusting one on eggs, which made me never want to eat another egg again as long as I lived. They are mishandled something terrific as well as not being refrigerated for ages, and it was enough for me. After you wrote, I decided that on the other hand, hopefully organic eggs were better handled since surely they would be in the hands of completely different people who actually might care about them. I am doing just fine on the raw ORGANIC eggs, but, Ian, if you had seen an expose like this one, I do think you too would feel uncomfortable about eating eggs in general, even if you didn't get salmonella. Valerie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2001 Report Share Posted August 20, 2001 I do watch television, but I draw the line at the news. That is never a "feel good" feeling. I also don't read the newspapers, though we get the newspaper. I only read it if by "mistake" my eyes fall on a headline that gets me crazy, then I'm drawn in. Several years ago my friend started a newspaper called The Happy Times Monthly. It is only good news. I volunteered for about 1-1/2 years. It's amazing how many people there are who really love good news; that paper is doing so great!!!! Yes, I seem to be doing well on my organic eggs, and I'll pretend I didn't read this part: The organic store bought may be a little 'iffy' as they don't tell you when the egg was layed, but I've never had a problem with them either as long as they were free range. I had convinced myself that just organic eggs would be okay; free range is not always an option. Take care! Love, Valerie Get personalized email addresses from Mail - only $35 a year!http://personal.mail./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2001 Report Share Posted August 21, 2001 For many years, i've had trouble digesting eggs, and customarily avoid them. Colorado was apparently the first place where the modern egg production methods were implemented, and it occurs to me i started having this problem about the time the majority of eggs available there were produced in the " cyclos " (that's the food trade term for chicken houses). Late last year, we got snowed out really bad at our cabin, and a good friend down the road invited us to stay the night. We had breakfast with them. I was pretty busy first thing in the morning, and didn't know they had cooked up a huge omlet feast. I decided not to say anything, and ate it anyway. Figured since it wasn't a big work day i didn't have to worry if the digestive problems came up. I noticed the omlet had a great flavor, very subtle but wholesome. I commented on this, and found that this had been made from eggs laid right there at their place. Later that day, no digestive problems at all! We do have a TV set, but no cable. In Cheyenne, that means we get 3 1/2 channels. Mostly just watch the Simpsons, which is pretty much the most realistic show out there. We also borrow videos from our church library a lot. At 04:17 PM 8/19/01 -0600, you wrote: >Hey Valerie, >Good to hear from you again. You're right about me not having a TV, but >I stay very connected to the health scene through the Internet and >through my connections. If this expose is the one I'm thinking of, it >had to do with the production of commercial eggs, not organic or free >range. You are absolutely right when it comes to commercial production >including the raising of chickens for meat. It is beyond disgusting. I >don't see how they can do those things to another living creature. > >As far as refrigerated eggs are concerned, you can actually let an egg >sit for several weeks at room temperature and it will not spoil as long >as it isn't cracked. If you raise your own, this is actually the best >way to go as more of the enzymes are preserved. The organic store >bought may be a little 'iffy' as they don't tell you when the egg was >layed, but I've never had a problem with them either as long as they >were free range. All of the organic farmers around me (and there are >lots) who raise their own chickens seem to have a natural reverence for >their animals and love them as I do mine, treating them with respect and >caring. Even when I use one for meat on the table, I thank it for >contributing to the survival of my family. > >I'm glad you're doing great on the raw ORGANIC eggs as I have done for >years now. The problem with some of these exposes is that even though >they may or may not be on the right track, very seldom do they give the >whole story, not necessarily through viciousness but through ignorance. >There's a lot of garbage on TV, a lot. > >I recommend to all of my really ill patients that they don't watch TV or >read any newspapers, and you know what? After about a week, they call >me up and tell me how at peace they feel and that their lives are a lot >less stressful. > >My feelings on TV's and newspapers = I don't eat garbage. Why should I >allow it in my mind? > >Love, > >Doc > >Ian " Doc " Shillington N.D. >505-772-5889 >Dr.IanShillington > -- Michael Riversong ** Professional Harpist, Educator, and Writer ** RivEdu ** Phone: (307)635-0900 FAX (413)691-0399 http://home.earthlink.net/~mriversong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2001 Report Share Posted August 21, 2001 Good for you on the TV and don't worry about my statement below. All of the Organic eggs I've ever bought were free range. Most Organic eggs are though they don't tell you ;o) Love, Doc Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington - Valerie herbal remedies Monday, August 20, 2001 3:28 PM Re: [herbal remedies] lemon egg I do watch television, but I draw the line at the news. That is never a "feel good" feeling. I also don't read the newspapers, though we get the newspaper. I only read it if by "mistake" my eyes fall on a headline that gets me crazy, then I'm drawn in. Several years ago my friend started a newspaper called The Happy Times Monthly. It is only good news. I volunteered for about 1-1/2 years. It's amazing how many people there are who really love good news; that paper is doing so great!!!! Yes, I seem to be doing well on my organic eggs, and I'll pretend I didn't read this part: The organic store bought may be a little 'iffy' as they don't tell you when the egg was layed, but I've never had a problem with them either as long as they were free range. I had convinced myself that just organic eggs would be okay; free range is not always an option. Take care! Love, Valerie Get personalized email addresses from Mail - only $35 a year!http://personal.mail./ Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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