Guest guest Posted August 6, 2001 Report Share Posted August 6, 2001 Hi everyone, Can anyone tell me what tried and true brand of insomnia supplements you take or have taken? No tincture or teas, bec. they act as diuretics on me. Need something I can take on regular basis. I know, you will say to get to the root of the problems, and I am trying, but a few problems are lifelong/biological, etc. Also, has anyone had a good response with 5HTP (Tryptophan) supplement? Thank you for your help. PS in tincture form, I have tried valerian, p.f., catnip, hops, chamomile. Also tried bach remedys and melotonin. Take care. Love and Peace, Reneé and Jerry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2001 Report Share Posted August 6, 2001 Hi Renee, I am a long insomnia sufferer too. I have tried every herbal concoction under the sun. Changed my diet, used progesterone cream etc etc. I tried 5 HTp and didn't notice much, same with melatonin. I think I have isolated it to a hormone problem that started in my young teens. Have you noticed if your insomnia is cyclical? If you'd like to check out the work of Raymond Peat he has written some excellent articles on hormone related problems. He nailed my case to the " T " . If you search on his name he has stuff on the web. It's worth a shot. Cindy ps I can't offer unfortunately an herbal solution. I've been on amitryptiline off and on for 20 years and its the only thing that works for me. As much as I HATE that fact. --- rja86 wrote: > Hi everyone, > Can anyone tell me what tried and true brand of > insomnia supplements you > take or have taken? No tincture or teas, bec. they > act as diuretics on > me. Need something I can take on regular basis. I > know, you will say to > get to the root of the problems, and I am trying, > but a few problems are > lifelong/biological, etc. > Also, has anyone had a good response with 5HTP > (Tryptophan) supplement? > Thank you for your help. > > PS in tincture form, I have tried valerian, p.f., > catnip, hops, > chamomile. > Also tried bach remedys and melotonin. > > Take care. > > Love and Peace, > Reneé and Jerry > > Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Messenger http://phonecard./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2001 Report Share Posted August 7, 2001 Renee, I found this website - might be of some interest - especially the part of DMSO - Have you tried it? Ask Doc about this - maybe this might help http://www.spin.nl/icp_eng.htm Suzi Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Messengerhttp://phonecard./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2001 Report Share Posted August 7, 2001 Some Ayurvedic ideas for insomnia are: to give yourself a warm sesame oil (or other oil) massage, then have a warm bath, in the evening. It feels absolutely wonderful. Or at the least, rub warm sesame oil into your scalp and on the soles of your feet. Sounds wierd, but really works, i have tried it. Have some warm milk that has been simmered for a few minutes (makes it easier to digest) with some herbs like cardomon, nutmeg , and perhaps a little honey (added afterward, not cooked) Also, go to bed at a reasonable hour, before 10pm, and make it regular- the body likes routines and tends to adjust itself. Eat warming nourishing foods that make you feel good. Also, you cant go past meditation to help slow down that mind chatter. Good luck love Peela --- rja86 wrote: > Hi everyone, > Can anyone tell me what tried and true brand of > insomnia supplements you > take or have taken? No tincture or teas, bec. they > act as diuretics on > me. Need something I can take on regular basis. I > know, you will say to > get to the root of the problems, and I am trying, > but a few problems are > lifelong/biological, etc. > Also, has anyone had a good response with 5HTP > (Tryptophan) supplement? > Thank you for your help. > > PS in tincture form, I have tried valerian, p.f., > catnip, hops, > chamomile. > Also tried bach remedys and melotonin. > > Take care. > > Love and Peace, > Reneé and Jerry > > ===== May the long time sun shine upon you, all love suround you, and the pure light within you guide your way on. Traditional Blessing Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Messenger http://phonecard./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2001 Report Share Posted August 7, 2001 What does your nutrition program look like? I don't like the word diet because it sounds like some kind of deprivation. No caffine, no simple carbs,(white sugar, white flower etc.) read lables on your food and do your best to eliminate all chemical additives in your food, especially MSG and nitrites. Cut out all hydrogenated oils. Use something like olive oil or safflower oil and use that sparingly. Cut out red meat completely for a while and eat chicken, turkey and fish sparingly. If the herbal teas are acting like a diuretic it is possible that your kidneys *need* a good flushing. And for the ultimate " bandaid " , put a handful of sweet hops and some dried dill in a small bag or enclose them in a square of cloth and place inside your pillow case for a sleep pillow. Unlike a dream pillow, these herbs help you achieve a deep healing sleep without dreams. Don't use it excessively, as dreamless sleep on a continual basis can devistate your entire system. *Note. Be sure to get " sweet " hops or even the dill may not cover the smell. Jennie rja86 wrote: > Hi everyone, > Can anyone tell me what tried and true brand of insomnia supplements you > take or have taken? No tincture or teas, bec. they act as diuretics on > me. Need something I can take on regular basis. I know, you will say to > get to the root of the problems, and I am trying, but a few problems are > lifelong/biological, etc. > Also, has anyone had a good response with 5HTP (Tryptophan) supplement? > Thank you for your help. > > PS in tincture form, I have tried valerian, p.f., catnip, hops, > chamomile. > Also tried bach remedys and melotonin. > > Take care. > > Love and Peace, > Reneé and Jerry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2001 Report Share Posted August 7, 2001 Does the insomnia affect everyone in the house? If so, there is an environmental problem, and nothing can work until that's addressed. I have seen a few cases of insomnia cured simply by moving a clock radio a few feet away from a bed. Another common insomnia producing situation, is an electrical supply panel in the bedroom. Occasionally an electromagnetic field will affect one side of a bed but not the other. Tryptophan is great. I never tried it, but lots of people did with good results. The banning of Tryptophan in America is a scandal. The problems with it were a direct result of a new process for growing it using bacteria instead of extracting it from natural sources. Another possibility to check here is a food allergy. I have seen a few people out there with an allergy to corn, and persistent insomnia being one of the symptoms. At 02:01 PM 8/6/01 -0700, you wrote: >Hi everyone, >Can anyone tell me what tried and true brand of insomnia supplements you >take or have taken? No tincture or teas, bec. they act as diuretics on >me. Need something I can take on regular basis. I know, you will say to >get to the root of the problems, and I am trying, but a few problems are >lifelong/biological, etc. >Also, has anyone had a good response with 5HTP (Tryptophan) supplement? >Thank you for your help. > >PS in tincture form, I have tried valerian, p.f., catnip, hops, >chamomile. >Also tried bach remedys and melotonin. > >Take care. > >Love and Peace, >Reneé and Jerry > > -- Michael Riversong ** Professional Harpist, Educator, and Writer ** RivEdu ** Phone: (307)635-0900 FAX (413)691-0399 http://home.earthlink.net/~mriversong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2001 Report Share Posted August 7, 2001 What are 'sweet hops'? I have a hop vine and there used to be lots of hops grown in our area but I have never heard of this. Patty And for the ultimate "bandaid", put a handful of sweet hops and some dried dill in a small bag or enclose themin a square of cloth and place inside your pillow case for a sleep pillow. Unlike a dream pillow, these herbshelp you achieve a deep healing sleep without dreams. Don't use it excessively, as dreamless sleep on acontinual basis can devistate your entire system.*Note. Be sure to get "sweet" hops or even the dill may not cover the smell. :)Jennierja86 wrote:> Hi everyone,> Can anyone tell me what tried and true brand of insomnia supplements you> take or have taken? No tincture or teas, bec. they act as diuretics on> me. Need something I can take on regular basis. I know, you will say to> get to the root of the problems, and I am trying, but a few problems are> lifelong/biological, etc.> Also, has anyone had a good response with 5HTP (Tryptophan) supplement?> Thank you for your help.>> PS in tincture form, I have tried valerian, p.f., catnip, hops,> chamomile.> Also tried bach remedys and melotonin.>> Take care.>> Love and Peace,> Reneé and JerryFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2001 Report Share Posted August 8, 2001 I don't know if sweet hops is produced by different growing conditions, or if it is a different type of plant, or if it is the male flowers or what, but it doesn't smell quite so much like dirty sox. Jennie patricia seifert wrote: What are 'sweet hops'? I have a hop vine and there used to be lots of hops grown in our area but I have never heard of this. Patty And for the ultimate "bandaid", put a handful of sweet hops and some dried dill in a small bag or enclose them in a square of cloth and place inside your pillow case for a sleep pillow. Unlike a dream pillow, these herbs help you achieve a deep healing sleep without dreams. Don't use it excessively, as dreamless sleep on a continual basis can devistate your entire system. *Note. Be sure to get "sweet" hops or even the dill may not cover the smell. Jennie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2001 Report Share Posted August 8, 2001 Best thing I know for insomnia, I just remembered, is some decent exercise. A good walk, whatever, a run if you can, it calms all those stress hormones, and its not often a physically exhausted person cant sleep- its almost always only a stressed, emotionally or mentally exhausted one. love Peela ===== May the long time sun shine upon you, all love suround you, and the pure light within you guide your way on. Traditional Blessing Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Messenger http://phonecard./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2001 Report Share Posted August 8, 2001 Oh BOY have you got that one right!! I will vouch for it. Thanks Peela, Love Patty - Peela herbal remedies Tuesday, August 07, 2001 10:14 PM Re: [herbal remedies] insomnia help Best thing I know for insomnia, I just remembered, issome decent exercise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2001 Report Share Posted August 8, 2001 Good advice Peela. The only other things I might add would be a hot bath (very hot for about 1/2 an hour), and a tablespoon of Lemon Egg. Love, Doc Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington - Peela herbal remedies Tuesday, August 07, 2001 11:14 PM Re: [herbal remedies] insomnia help Best thing I know for insomnia, I just remembered, is some decent exercise. A good walk, whatever, a run if you can, it calms all those stress hormones, and its not often a physically exhausted person cant sleep-its almost always only a stressed, emotionally or mentally exhausted one.lovePeela Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2001 Report Share Posted August 8, 2001 What's Lemon Egg? - Ian Shillington N.D. herbal remedies 8/8/01 10:08:49 AM Re: [herbal remedies] insomnia help Good advice Peela. The only other things I might add would be a hot bath (very hot for about 1/2 an hour), and a tablespoon of Lemon Egg. Love, Doc Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2001 Report Share Posted August 8, 2001 Ahhhhhh, you're in for a treat Michael. Go to the files under my section and there you'll get a complete rundown and the full recipe. The stuff is awesome and very easy to make. Love, Doc Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington - Michael Riversong herbal remedies Wednesday, August 08, 2001 12:10 PM Re: [herbal remedies] insomnia help What's Lemon Egg? - Ian Shillington N.D. herbal remedies 8/8/01 10:08:49 AM Re: [herbal remedies] insomnia help Good advice Peela. The only other things I might add would be a hot bath (very hot for about 1/2 an hour), and a tablespoon of Lemon Egg. Love, Doc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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