Guest guest Posted August 5, 2001 Report Share Posted August 5, 2001 A good start, is to get a regular exercise program (I know, easier said than done), and lose the extra baggage; that will help decrease the liklihood of hypertension, diabetes, etc.. Ma Huang (ephedra), despite the adverse press, has a long history of use against asthma, but may be contraindicated with your hypertension. Try some Omega 3's (fish, flax, etc.), and some anti-inflamatory herbs such as turmeric, ginger, and perhaps the bioflavanoid quercetin along with vitamin C; other than that, try to findan open -minded, knowledgeable naturopath and/or nutritionist to keep up with your progress, and perhaps, wean you off of those medications. In Health, Steve ----------------------------- I am trying very hard to get off of all prescription drugs and either rid myself of the need for them or replace them with more natural methods or herbal alternatives. I have managed over the last year to lower my blood pressure through meditation, for example. During my last job assignment, I was on the road most of the time, didn't get a lot of exercise, and managed to gain twenty pounds before I realized it. I don't have a severe case of asthma but it does tend to limit my ability to exercise since every time I get out of breath, I risk bringing on an attack. I am really working on getting rid of the asthma but sense the need for some herbal assistance while I do this. So, do you folks know of any herbal substitutes I can use instead of all the inhalers I've been prescribed by my conventional doctor? I feel like Jacob Marley's ghost...with all those inhalers clanking away in my purse. Lise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2001 Report Share Posted August 5, 2001 I am trying very hard to get off of all prescription drugs and either rid myself of the need for them or replace them with more natural methods or herbal alternatives. I have managed over the last year to lower my blood pressure through meditation, for example. During my last job assignment, I was on the road most of the time, didn't get a lot of exercise, and managed to gain twenty pounds before I realized it. I don't have a severe case of asthma but it does tend to limit my ability to exercise since every time I get out of breath, I risk bringing on an attack. I am really working on getting rid of the asthma but sense the need for some herbal assistance while I do this. So, do you folks know of any herbal substitutes I can use instead of all the inhalers I've been prescribed by my conventional doctor? I feel like Jacob Marley's ghost...with all those inhalers clanking away in my purse. Lise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2001 Report Share Posted August 5, 2001 Do you have any other symptoms other than asthma and high blood pressure? I can give you some " bandaids " , but you really need to look at all your symptoms in order to get the the cause of the problem. There is probably just one problem. Asthma can be cause by allergies (build your immune system to help eliminate allergies), or by emotional upsets that have been internalized (meditation should help with this if you can confront the memories) and probably a number of other things. Ephedra tea is great when you have an attack, but you may not always be where you can make a cup of tea. {NOTE: This is *not something you want to take as a preventive measure. Only during an attack.} I have mixed essential oils of eucalyptus, fir, pine, peppermint, oregano, patchouli, and a touch of orange and soaked some rock salt and put in a small bottle for a " sniffy " to help my granddaughter to relax when she feels an attack coming on. (She usually panics and that makes it worse). This combination has a sedative effect, (helps fight down the panic) helps the system push toxins out and dialates the bronchial tubes. Jennie lonewolf1366 wrote: > I am trying very hard to get off of all prescription drugs and either > rid myself of the need for them or replace them with more natural > methods or herbal alternatives. I have managed over the last year to > lower my blood pressure through meditation, for example. > > During my last job assignment, I was on the road most of the time, > didn't get a lot of exercise, and managed to gain twenty pounds > before I realized it. I don't have a severe case of asthma but it > does tend to limit my ability to exercise since every time I get out > of breath, I risk bringing on an attack. I am really working on > getting rid of the asthma but sense the need for some herbal > assistance while I do this. > > So, do you folks know of any herbal substitutes I can use instead of > all the inhalers I've been prescribed by my conventional doctor? I > feel like Jacob Marley's ghost...with all those inhalers clanking > away in my purse. > > Lise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2001 Report Share Posted August 6, 2001 hey Lise I would totally have to recommend ayurvedic remedies for asthma as ive had tons of luck with them. One simple mixture you can make yourself is of honey and turmeric-- first thing in the morning if you mix a spoonful of honey with a spoonful of turmeric and eat that, you will notice a change in the wheezing. theres a mixture called vasaghanvati (sp?) that is also very helpful, and also a bunch more other things but i suppose it would be better to go ahead an contact an ayurvedic doc. if you do want the names of other mixtures, let me know, but im worried they will be hard to come by. good luck misha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2001 Report Share Posted August 6, 2001 oh! and one called sithofaladi (sp?)- that ones awesome. i bet if you contacted an ayurvedic doc you could even get the recipe... im pretty sure its basic things like black pepper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2001 Report Share Posted August 6, 2001 Another Ayurvedic remedy for asthma- while you have got it- is licorice tea. Contraindication is taking too much if you have high blood pressure. love peela --- misha953 wrote: > hey Lise > > I would totally have to recommend ayurvedic remedies > for asthma as ive had > tons of luck with them. One simple mixture you can > make yourself is of honey > and turmeric-- first thing in the morning if you > mix a spoonful of honey > with a spoonful of turmeric and eat that, you will > notice a change in the > wheezing. theres a mixture called vasaghanvati (sp?) > that is also very > helpful, and also a bunch more other things but i > suppose it would be better > to go ahead an contact an ayurvedic doc. if you do > want the names of other > mixtures, let me know, but im worried they will be > hard to come by. > > good luck > misha > ===== May the long time sun shine upon you, all love suround you, and the pure light within you guide your way on. Traditional Blessing Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Messenger http://phonecard./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2001 Report Share Posted August 6, 2001 Your fundamental body type has a lot to do with the exact origin of asthma. Dietary changes, rather than herbs, are usually the best approach once that's been determined. Improvements in this condition are a slow, incremental process. For example, when people with inherently heavy bodies get asthma, they should keep away from fatty foods, and substitute light, sweet foods (which are rare in America). When people who are normally very thin get it, eucalyptus and peppermint flavors are helpful, and expectorants are more needed. People in the middle would seem to need slightly more salt, especially uncommon mineral salts, and also garlic. These are very generalized examples -- in any case of asthma a competent physician needs to do a thorough examination along with an analysis of the diet. Keeping a food diary for a week has often been very helpful. Also homeopathic cell salts have been very beneficial for many asthma patients, but the ideal formula will be different for each person. If a competent physician is not available, a good general rule is that fats should take up no more than 30% and no less than 20% of a diet. That alone would help many asthma patients. Another general rule is that olive oil should be a large part of the fats that are eaten. Following these rules won't necessarily " cure " asthma, but they will create in the body a more favorable environment for consistent, healthy breathing. At 01:31 PM 8/5/01 -0000, you wrote: > >I am trying very hard to get off of all prescription drugs and either >rid myself of the need for them or replace them with more natural >methods or herbal alternatives. I have managed over the last year to >lower my blood pressure through meditation, for example. > >During my last job assignment, I was on the road most of the time, >didn't get a lot of exercise, and managed to gain twenty pounds >before I realized it. I don't have a severe case of asthma but it >does tend to limit my ability to exercise since every time I get out >of breath, I risk bringing on an attack. I am really working on >getting rid of the asthma but sense the need for some herbal >assistance while I do this. > >So, do you folks know of any herbal substitutes I can use instead of >all the inhalers I've been prescribed by my conventional doctor? I >feel like Jacob Marley's ghost...with all those inhalers clanking >away in my purse. > >Lise > -- Michael Riversong ** Professional Harpist, Educator, and Writer ** RivEdu ** Phone: (307)635-0900 FAX (413)691-0399 http://home.earthlink.net/~mriversong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2001 Report Share Posted August 6, 2001 This thing about tumeric is very interesting. I will have to check it out further. Thanks for mentioning it! Yes, Ayurvedic remedies are good -- but they depend completely on a person's body type. Therefore, none should be taken until that is first determined. There are several sources for authentic Ayurvedic remedies. Some of these are connected with Transcendental Meditation groups. I have a couple listed in my database. At 01:23 AM 8/6/01 EDT, you wrote: >hey Lise > >I would totally have to recommend ayurvedic remedies for asthma as ive had >tons of luck with them. One simple mixture you can make yourself is of honey >and turmeric-- first thing in the morning if you mix a spoonful of honey >with a spoonful of turmeric and eat that, you will notice a change in the >wheezing. theres a mixture called vasaghanvati (sp?) that is also very >helpful, and also a bunch more other things but i suppose it would be better >to go ahead an contact an ayurvedic doc. if you do want the names of other >mixtures, let me know, but im worried they will be hard to come by. > >good luck >misha > -- Michael Riversong ** Professional Harpist, Educator, and Writer ** RivEdu ** Phone: (307)635-0900 FAX (413)691-0399 http://home.earthlink.net/~mriversong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2001 Report Share Posted August 6, 2001 You might try eliminating dairy products for a period and see what effect that has on the asthma. In my research I've come across a lot of folks who have had success with that... >Michael Riversong >herbal remedies >herbal remedies >Re: [herbal remedies] Question on asthma >Mon, 6 Aug 2001 05:48:37 -0700 (PDT) > >Your fundamental body type has a lot to do with the exact origin of asthma. >Dietary changes, rather than herbs, are usually the best approach once >that's been determined. Improvements in this condition are a slow, >incremental process. > >For example, when people with inherently heavy bodies get asthma, they >should keep away from fatty foods, and substitute light, sweet foods (which >are rare in America). When people who are normally very thin get it, >eucalyptus and peppermint flavors are helpful, and expectorants are more >needed. People in the middle would seem to need slightly more salt, >especially uncommon mineral salts, and also garlic. These are very >generalized examples -- in any case of asthma a competent physician needs to >do a thorough examination along with an analysis of the diet. Keeping a >food diary for a week has often been very helpful. Also homeopathic cell >salts have been very beneficial for many asthma patients, but the ideal >formula will be different for each person. > >If a competent physician is not available, a good general rule is that fats >should take up no more than 30% and no less than 20% of a diet. That alone >would help many asthma patients. Another general rule is that olive oil >should be a large part of the fats that are eaten. Following these rules >won't necessarily "cure" asthma, but they will create in the body a more >favorable environment for consistent, healthy breathing. > >At 01:31 PM 8/5/01 -0000, you wrote: > > > >I am trying very hard to get off of all prescription drugs and either > >rid myself of the need for them or replace them with more natural > >methods or herbal alternatives. I have managed over the last year to > >lower my blood pressure through meditation, for example. > > > >During my last job assignment, I was on the road most of the time, > >didn't get a lot of exercise, and managed to gain twenty pounds > >before I realized it. I don't have a severe case of asthma but it > >does tend to limit my ability to exercise since every time I get out > >of breath, I risk bringing on an attack. I am really working on > >getting rid of the asthma but sense the need for some herbal > >assistance while I do this. > > > >So, do you folks know of any herbal substitutes I can use instead of > >all the inhalers I've been prescribed by my conventional doctor? I > >feel like Jacob Marley's ghost...with all those inhalers clanking > >away in my purse. > > > >Lise > > >-- Michael Riversong ** >Professional Harpist, Educator, and Writer ** >RivEdu ** Phone: (307)635-0900 FAX (413)691-0399 >http://home.earthlink.net/~mriversong > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2001 Report Share Posted August 6, 2001 Jennie, Oh, the " sniffy " sounds WONDERFUL! Will you be MY grandma too!?!?! Yes, I do have allergies AND stress. Took allergy shots for a few years. Some of this is self-induced, since I'm supposedly allergic to cats, but we adopted two from the pound anyway. My job is not exactly a barrel of laughs, either, and I'm about to be laid off. Probably the best thing that could happen to me, considering how unhappy I am there, but stressful all the same during the transition period! I'm beginning to believe we all have 'weak spots', and when under stress - whether chronic or traumatic - those are the spots that give us the most problems. My weak spot appears to be my 'twitchy tubes' as my regular doctor calls 'em. Unfortunately, if he had his way, I'd be medicated all the time as a preventive measure and that is exactly what I don't want anymore. A lot of these drugs just have too many side effects....known and as yet unknown. Besides the hassle of having to either go to the pharmacy or send away for them all the time. I could be a prime example of modern medicine doing more harm than good, actually. With all this 'stuff' I used to take, I think I also developed stomach problems. Of course, stress will do that, too. But my doctor never really treated me as a whole. He dealt with the symptoms of the moment and tried to treat those. I'm convinced that this way of dealing with patients - not treating them as a whole person, but a patchwork quilt - does indeed cause more problems than it fixes. Lise Jennie <silvermist2 herbal remedies herbal remedies Re: [herbal remedies] Question on asthma Sun, 05 Aug 2001 11:24:41 -0500 Do you have any other symptoms other than asthma and high blood pressure? I can give you some " bandaids " , but you really need to look at all your symptoms in order to get the the cause of the problem. There is probably just one problem. Asthma can be cause by allergies (build your immune system to help eliminate allergies), or by emotional upsets that have been internalized (meditation should help with this if you can confront the memories) and probably a number of other things. Ephedra tea is great when you have an attack, but you may not always be where you can make a cup of tea. {NOTE: This is *not something you want to take as a preventive measure. Only during an attack.} I have mixed essential oils of eucalyptus, fir, pine, peppermint, oregano, patchouli, and a touch of orange and soaked some rock salt and put in a small bottle for a " sniffy " to help my granddaughter to relax when she feels an attack coming on. (She usually panics and that makes it worse). This combination has a sedative effect, (helps fight down the panic) helps the system push toxins out and dialates the bronchial tubes. Jennie _______________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2001 Report Share Posted August 6, 2001 In case it hasn't been mentioned already the combination of nettle, cayenne, and ground ivy tinctures mentioned a while back also helps with asthma. 30 drops of each in a small glass of water. Eliminating wheat and dairy can make a difference. Acupuncture helps a great deal also. Cathy herbal remedies, " Lise Maring " <lonewolf1366@h...> wrote: > Jennie, > > Oh, the " sniffy " sounds WONDERFUL! Will you be MY grandma too!?!?! > > Yes, I do have allergies AND stress. Took allergy shots for a few years. > Some of this is self-induced, since I'm supposedly allergic to cats, but we > adopted two from the pound anyway. My job is not exactly a barrel of > laughs, either, and I'm about to be laid off. Probably the best thing that > could happen to me, considering how unhappy I am there, but stressful all > the same during the transition period! > > I'm beginning to believe we all have 'weak spots', and when under stress - > whether chronic or traumatic - those are the spots that give us the most > problems. My weak spot appears to be my 'twitchy tubes' as my regular > doctor calls 'em. Unfortunately, if he had his way, I'd be medicated all > the time as a preventive measure and that is exactly what I don't want > anymore. A lot of these drugs just have too many side effects....known and > as yet unknown. Besides the hassle of having to either go to the pharmacy > or send away for them all the time. > > I could be a prime example of modern medicine doing more harm than good, > actually. With all this 'stuff' I used to take, I think I also developed > stomach problems. Of course, stress will do that, too. But my doctor never > really treated me as a whole. He dealt with the symptoms of the moment and > tried to treat those. I'm convinced that this way of dealing with patients > - not treating them as a whole person, but a patchwork quilt - does indeed > cause more problems than it fixes. > > Lise > > > > > > Jennie <silvermist2@e...> > herbal remedies > herbal remedies > Re: [herbal remedies] Question on asthma > Sun, 05 Aug 2001 11:24:41 -0500 > > Do you have any other symptoms other than asthma and high blood pressure? I > can give you some " bandaids " , but > you really need to look at all your symptoms in order to get the the cause > of the problem. There is probably > just one problem. > Asthma can be cause by allergies (build your immune system to help > eliminate allergies), or by emotional upsets > that have been internalized (meditation should help with this if you can > confront the memories) and probably a > number of other things. > Ephedra tea is great when you have an attack, but you may not always be > where you can make a cup of tea. {NOTE: > This is *not something you want to take as a preventive measure. Only > during an attack.} > I have mixed essential oils of eucalyptus, fir, pine, peppermint, oregano, > patchouli, and a touch of orange and > soaked some rock salt and put in a small bottle for a " sniffy " to help my > granddaughter to relax when she feels > an attack coming on. (She usually panics and that makes it worse). This > combination has a sedative effect, > (helps fight down the panic) helps the system push toxins out and dialates > the bronchial tubes. > Jennie > > > > > _______________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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