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I just joined the list and read through the archives on Mosquito and

remedies for them. I would like to know if anyone knows of something

that can be taken in pill form that can prevent them all summer. We

live on a lake and I get really bad bites. Last year I almost lost

custody of my step son becasue of the bad bites on my legs and the

case worker said it was flea bites and I couldn't prove to her what

they were. So if I can take a pill all the time to help with not

getting bit I'd like to know about it.

 

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I generally don't have a problem with mosquitos, but I think that

it's because I eat a lot of garlic (heard somewhere, not sure

where). It doesn't stop them completely, but I get bitten less

than the people that I'm around. I've also read that Lemon Balm

has citronella in it. Smash some leaves and rub it on before you

go out. Hope this helps. I can completely empathize with the

annoyance of that little demon. I spent some time at the river as

a child and between nettles, mosquitos and poison ivy for my friend

(never allergic myself), we were some itching, scratching, stinging

kids.

 

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> Thu, 10 May 2001 01:46:06 -0000

> vanillaherbs

> Mosquito Bites

>

> I just joined the list and read through the archives on Mosquito

> and

> remedies for them. I would like to know if anyone knows of

> something

> that can be taken in pill form that can prevent them all summer.

> We

> live on a lake and I get really bad bites. Last year I almost

> lost

> custody of my step son becasue of the bad bites on my legs and

> the

> case worker said it was flea bites and I couldn't prove to her

> what

> they were. So if I can take a pill all the time to help with not

>

> getting bit I'd like to know about it.

>

> Thanks Vanilla

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

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Where I live the mosquitos are fierce in the month of July.

I get chewed alive and every summer I swim in calamine lotion. The

past two years I have taken a lot of B complex and last summer for

the first time I think I only got one or two bites. I couldn't

believe it. So I vote for B complex.

 

Cathy

 

 

 

herbal remedies, vanillaherbs@h... wrote:

> I just joined the list and read through the archives on Mosquito

and

> remedies for them. I would like to know if anyone knows of

something

> that can be taken in pill form that can prevent them all summer.

We

> live on a lake and I get really bad bites. Last year I almost lost

> custody of my step son becasue of the bad bites on my legs and the

> case worker said it was flea bites and I couldn't prove to her what

> they were. So if I can take a pill all the time to help with not

> getting bit I'd like to know about it.

>

> Thanks Vanilla

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Hi Vanilla, here in Australia theres a product which

is basically a B1 (or B2, I cant remember, but i think

its B1)supplement which you take a dose of and is

supposed to keep the mozzies away. I gave it to my

daughter when she was 3 and she came out in big welts,

and we couldnt work out what it was till I realised I

gave her the adult dose! There must be something in it

which mozzies dont like. So maybe a good dose of B

vits would help if nothing else.

Of course, you probably know about citronella,

lavender, tea tree, the repellants. Theres heaps of

products containing them here, must be there too.

love

Peela

 

 

 

 

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Dear Vanilla (love your name),

 

I'm afraid there's no "Super-Duper-Fix-It-All-One-Shot" cure for mosquitos ;o)

 

You can turn them off by eating a couple of cloves of garlic a day, and then really repell them by using a mixture of Castor Oil, Citronella Oil, and Camphor Oil.

 

The Formula is:

 

5 oz of Castor Oil

4 oz of Citronella Oil

&

1 oz of Camphor Oil.

 

Love,

 

Doc

 

Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington

I just joined the list and read through the archives on Mosquito and remedies for them. I would like to know if anyone knows of something that can be taken in pill form that can prevent them all summer. We live on a lake and I get really bad bites. Last year I almost lost custody of my step son becasue of the bad bites on my legs and the case worker said it was flea bites and I couldn't prove to her what they were. So if I can take a pill all the time to help with not getting bit I'd like to know about it.Thanks Vanilla

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Phil:

 

Do you have a rememdy for mosquito bites. My son (13) went on a baseball

tournament. Was near the beach, and came home with 38 mosquito bites on his

arms alone. More on his legs. They look like mosquito bites but I really don't

know. They itch. I did some GuSha on his back last night to release heat and

put Arnica on the bites. It's what i had in a pinch. Any advice would be

appreciated.

 

Anne

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" " <

> Hi All,

>

> Honey application can be effective in infected wounds and ulcers (including

> diabetic ulcers) that failed to respond to antibiotic application. Thanks to

> for this alert: Honey Remedy Could Save Limbs:

> http://www.wired.com/news/technology/medtech/0,71925-0.html?

>

> See aso:

>

> Natarajan S, Williamson D, Grey J, Harding KG, Cooper RA. Healing of an

> MRSA-colonized, hydroxyurea-induced leg ulcer with honey. J Dermatolog

> Treat. 2001 Mar;12(1):33-6. Wound Healing Research Unit, Univ of Wales

> Coll of Med, Heath Park, Cardiff, UK. subramanian_natarajan

> BACKGROUND: With the everincreasing emergence of antibiotic-resistant

> pathogens, in particular methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus (MRSA)

> in leg ulcers, a means of reducing the bacterial bioburden of such ulcers,

> other than by the use of either topical or systemic antibiotics, is urgently

> required. METHODS: We report the case of an immunosuppressed patient

> who developed a hydroxyurea-induced leg ulcer with subclinical MRSA

> infection which was subsequently treated with topical application of manuka

> honey, without cessation of hydroxyurea or cyclosporin. RESULTS: MRSA

> was eradicated from the ulcer and rapid healing was successfully achieved.

> CONCLUSION: Honey is recognized to have antibacterial properties, and

> can also promote effective wound healing. A traditional therapy, therefore,

> appears to have enormous potential in solving new problems. PMID:

> 12171686 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

>

> Okeniyi JA, Olubanjo OO, Ogunlesi TA, Oyelami OA. Comparison of

> healing of incised abscess wounds with honey and EUSOL dressing. J

> Altern Complement Med. 2005 Jun;11(3):511-3. Department of Paediatrics

> and Child Health, Obafemi Awolowo University, Ile-Ife, Ilesa, Nigeria.

> akinyemiokes2 OBJECTIVE: To clinically compare the healing

> of abscess wounds dressed with either crude undiluted honey or Edinburgh

> University solution of lime (EUSOL). DESIGN: A prospective clinical

> randomized study. LOCATION: The Isolation Children's Ward of the Wesley

> Guild Hospital, Ilesa, an affiliate of the Obafemi Awolowo University,

Ile-Ife,

> Nigeria. SUBJECTS: Thirty-two (32) Nigerian children with 43 pyomyositis

> abcesses. INTERVENTIONS: All subjects had fresh surgical incision and

> drainage of the abcesses and a 21-day course of ampicillin plus cloxacillin

> (Ampiclox) and gentamicin; the wounds were left to close spontaneously

> with twice-daily wound dressing with packing of the abscess cavity with

> either honey- or EUSOL-soaked gauze in two randomized treatment

> groups. OUTCOME MEASURES: The clinical conditions of the wound sites

> were documented on days 1, 3, 7, and 21 as either clean or dirty, dry or wet,

> granulation tissue present or absent, and epithelialization present or absent;

> the length of hospital stay was also measured. RESULTS: Honey-treated

> wounds demonstrated quicker healing and the length of hospital stay was

> significantly shorter in patients with honey-treated wounds than those

> treated with EUSOL (t = 2.45, p = 0.019). CONCLUSIONS: Honey is a

> superior wound dressing agent to EUSOL. Honey is recommended for the

> dressing of infected wounds, more so in tropical countries, where it is most

> readily available. PMID: 15992237 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

>

> Chambers J. Topical manuka honey for MRSA-contaminated skin ulcers.

> Palliat Med. 2006 Jul;20(5):557. PMID: 16903411 [PubMed - in process]

>

> al Somal N, Coley KE, Molan PC, Hancock BM. Susceptibility of

> Helicobacter pylori to the antibacterial activity of manuka honey. J R Soc

> Med. 1994 Jan;87(1):9-12. Comment in: J R Soc Med. 1994

> Oct;87(10):644. Department of Biological Sciences, University of Waikato,

> Hamilton, New Zealand. Honey is a traditional remedy for dyspepsia, and is

> still used for this by some medical practitioners although there is no

rational

> basis for its use. The finding that Helicobacter pylori is probably the

> causative agent in many cases of dyspepsia has raised the possibility that

> the therapeutic action of honey may be due to its antibacterial properties.

> Consequently, the sensitivity of Helicobacter pylori to honey was tested,

> using isolates from biopsies of gastric ulcers. It was found that all five

> isolates tested were sensitive to a 20% (v/v) solution of manuka honey in an

> agar well diffusion assay, but none showed sensitivity to a 40% solution of a

> honey in which the antibacterial activity was due primarily to its content of

> hydrogen peroxide. Assessment of the minimum inhibitory concentration by

> inclusion of manuka honey in the agar showed that all seven isolates tested

> had visible growth over the incubation period of 72 h prevented completely

> by the presence of 5% (v/v) honey. PMID: 8308841 [PubMed - indexed for

> MEDLINE]

>

> Cooper R, Molan P. The use of honey as an antiseptic in managing

> Pseudomonas infection. Wound Care. 1999 Apr;8(4):161-4. Comment in: J

> Wound Care. 1999 Apr;8(4):155. School of Biomedical Sciences, University

> of Wales Institute, Cardiff, UK. A laboratory study was undertaken to extend

> existing knowledge about the effectiveness of the antibacterial properties of

> honey against pseudomonads. To date, sensitivity testing has used non-

> standardised honeys, which may vary greatly in their antibacterial potency.

> Pure cultures of Pseudomonas spp, isolated from swabs from 20 infected

> wounds, were inoculated on the surface of nutrient agar plates containing

> various concentrations of honey in the medium. Two types of honey were

> used, a manuka honey and a pasture honey, each selected to have

> antibacterial activity close to the median for each type. The minimum

> inhibitory concentration of the manuka honey for the 20 isolates ranged

> from 5.5-8.7% (v/v) (mean 6.9% (v/v), standard deviation 1.3). The

> minimum inhibitory concentration of the pasture honey for the 20 isolates

> ranged from 5.8-9.0% (v/v) (mean 7.1% (v/v), standard deviation 1.0).

> Honeys with an average level of antibacterial activity could be expected to

> be effective in preventing the growth of pseudomonads on the surface of a

> wound even if the honey were diluted more than ten-fold by exudation from

> the wound. PMID: 10455629 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

>

> Al-Waili NS. Investigating the antimicrobial activity of natural honey and its

> effects on the pathogenic bacterial infections of surgical wounds and

> conjunctiva. J Med Food. 2004 Summer;7(2):210-22. Dubai Specialized

> Med Center and Med Research Labs, Islamic Establishment for Education,

> PO Box 19099, Dubai, United Arab Emirates. noori786

> Antimicrobial activities of 10-100% (wt/vol) concentrations of new honey,

> stored honey, heated honey, ultraviolet-exposed honey, and heated stored

> honey were tested against common human pathogens, including

> Escherichia coli, Entrobacter cloacae, Pseudomonas aeruginosa, Shigella

> dysenteriae, Klebsiella sp., Haemophilus influenzae, Proteus sp.,

> Staphylococcus aureus, Streptococcus hemolyticus group B, and Candida

> albicans. Antimicrobial activity of honey was tested in acidic, neutral, or

> alkaline media. These were compared with similar concentrations of

> glucose in nutrient broth. Surgical wounds were made on the dorsum of

> mice and infected with S. aureus or Klebsiella sp. The wounds were treated

> with local application of honey four times a day or appropriate antibiotics

> and compared with control values. Bacterial conjunctivitis due to E. coli,

> Proteus sp., S. aureus, Klebsiella sp., and P. aeruginosa was induced in

> rats. Conjunctival application of honey four times a day or appropriate

> antibiotics was used for treatment and compared with control values.

> Growth of all the isolates was completely inhibited by 30-100% honey

> concentrations. The most sensitive microbes were E. coli, P. aeruginosa,

> and H. influenzae. Glucose showed less antimicrobial activity than honey,

> and many microbes showed positive culture even in 100% glucose. Heating

> to 80 degrees C for 1 hour decreased antimicrobial activity of both new and

> stored honey. Storage of honey for 5 years decreased its antimicrobial

> activity, while ultraviolet light exposure increased its activity against some

> of

> the microorganisms. Antimicrobial activity of honey was stronger in acidic

> media than in neutral or alkaline media. Single doses of honey used to

> prepare the 60% concentration in nutrient broth were bacteriocidal for P.

> aeruginosa and bacteriostatic for S. aureus and Klebsiella sp. during certain

> periods. Local application of raw honey on infected wounds reduced

> redness, swelling, time for complete resolution of lesion, and time for

> eradication of bacterial infection due to S. aureus or Klebsiella sp. Its

> potency was comparable to that of local antibiotics. Honey application into

> infective conjunctivitis reduced redness, swelling, pus discharge, and time

> for eradication of bacterial infections due to all the isolates tested. PMID:

> 15298770 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

>

> Lusby PE, Coombes A, Wilkinson JM. Honey: a potent agent for wound

> healing? J Wound Ostomy Continence Nurs. 2002 Nov;29(6):295-300.

> Links Comment in: J Wound Ostomy Continence Nurs. 2002

> Nov;29(6):273-4. School of Biomedical Sciences, Charles Sturt University,

> Wagga Wagga, Australia. Although honey has been used as a traditional

> remedy for burns and wounds, the potential for its inclusion in mainstream

> medical care is not well recognized. Many studies have demonstrated that

> honey has antibacterial activity in vitro, and a small number of clinical case

> studies have shown that application of honey to severely infected cutaneous

> wounds is capable of clearing infection from the wound and improving

> tissue healing. The physicochemical properties (eg, osmotic effects and pH)

> of honey also aid in its antibacterial actions. Research has also indicated

> that honey may possess antiinflammatory activity and stimulate immune

> responses within a wound. The overall effect is to reduce infection and to

> enhance wound healing in burns, ulcers, and other cutaneous wounds. It is

> also known that honeys derived from particular floral sources in Australia

> and New Zealand (Leptospermum spp) have enhanced antibacterial

> activity, and these honeys have been approved for marketing as therapeutic

> honeys (Medihoney and Active Manuka honey). This review outlines what is

> known about the medical properties of honey and indicates the potential for

> honey to be incorporated into the management of a large number of wound

> types. PMID: 12439453 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

>

> Best regards,

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Hi Anne,

 

It's not TCM related, but lavender and eucalyptus essential oil are great

against itches or allergic reactions. I put the oils directly on the skin...

but make sure it's good quality oils.

 

Hope this helps,

 

Artemis

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Anne,

 

> Do you have a rememdy for mosquito bites. My son (13) went on a

> baseball tournament. Was near the beach, and came home with 38

> mosquito bites on his arms alone. More on his legs. They look like

> mosquito bites but I really don't know. They itch. I did some GuSha

> on his back last night to release heat and put Arnica on the bites.

> It's what i had in a pinch. Any advice would be appreciated. Anne

 

We were eaten alive in Italy last August. We had no CAM with us and relied

on antihistamine / steroid cream.

 

The old remedy used to be to apply alkali to the bites, such as diluted

ammonia solution, or baking soda, or calamine lotion.

 

Homeopathic Apis or Urtica by mouth, and by topical application are used

also.

 

As there usually is an allergic component, acupuncture at allergy points like

LV03, GB20, SP10, LI11, LI04 and ST36 may help.

 

Also see:

http://www.umm.edu/altmed/ConsConditions/InsectBitesandStingscc.html

 

and

 

Karppinen A, Brummer-Korvenkontio H, Petman L, Kautiainen H, Herve JP,

Reunala T. Levocetirizine for treatment of immediate and delayed mosquito

bite reactions. Acta Derm Venereol. 2006;86(4):329-31. Department of

Dermatology, University and University Hospital of Tampere, Finland.

People frequently experience whealing and delayed papules from mosquito

bites. Various antihistamines have previously been tried for the treatment of

this condition. We performed a double-blind, placebo-controlled, cross-over

study with levocetirizine 5 mg and matched placebo in 30 adults who were

sensitive to mosquito bites. On the third treatment day the subjects received

two Aedes aegypti bites on the forearm. The size of the bite lesions and the

intensity of pruritus (visual analogue scale) were measured. Bite symptoms

could be analysed in 28 subjects at 15 min and in 8 subjects at 24 h.

Levocetirizine decreased the size of wheals by 60% (p < 0.001) and

accompanying pruritus by 62% (p < 0.001) compared with placebo. The

effect of levocetirizine increased in a linear fashion with the size of wheals

and was most significant in the subjects with largest bite lesions.

Levocetirizine also decreased the size of 24-h bite lesions by 71% (p=0.008)

and accompanying pruritus by 56% (p=0.016). These results show that

prophylactic levocetirizine 5 mg is an effective treatment for both immediate

and delayed mosquito bite symptoms and is especially effective in subjects

with large wheals. PMID: 16874418 [PubMed - in process]

 

Best regards,

 

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Anne, I second the idea of putting lavender essential oil on the bites.

However, Artemis, I thought that lavender was the only essential oil that could

be put on neat, i.e., directly on the skin without being diluted in a carrier

oil, especially with children. My knowledge of essential oils is mostly book

learning, so I'd be interested in whatever you could tell me about this.

Thanks, Liz Casey

 

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Artemis Papert

Chinese Medicine

Tuesday, October 17, 2006 9:10 AM

Re: Mosquito Bites

 

 

Hi Anne,

 

It's not TCM related, but lavender and eucalyptus essential oil are great

against itches or allergic reactions. I put the oils directly on the skin...

but make sure it's good quality oils.

 

Hope this helps,

 

Artemis

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Phil, Artemis, Liz:

 

Thanks so much for your help.

 

Anne

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" Artemis Papert " <artemis.artemis

> Hi Anne,

>

> It's not TCM related, but lavender and eucalyptus essential oil are great

> against itches or allergic reactions. I put the oils directly on the skin...

> but make sure it's good quality oils.

>

> Hope this helps,

>

> Artemis

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Hi Folks

 

Be carefull with too much eucalyptus oil directly on the skin as it

may cause irritation and Sensitisation at a solution of 11% or

above. Lavender is safe up to 16%.

 

Best Regards

 

Cristian Christensen

 

Chinese Medicine , " Artemis

Papert " <artemis.artemis wrote:

>

> Hi Anne,

>

> It's not TCM related, but lavender and eucalyptus essential oil

are great

> against itches or allergic reactions. I put the oils directly on

the skin...

> but make sure it's good quality oils.

>

> Hope this helps,

>

> Artemis

>

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In fach no oil should be put on neat. The book " Plant Aromatics " by

Martin Watt has all the information on safety issues concerning oils.

 

Try rubbing the affected area with the inside of a banana skin. Some

people find it successful at reducing swelling and irritation.

 

Best Regards

Cristian Christensen

 

 

 

Chinese Medicine , Liz

<lizzzrd wrote:

>

> Anne, I second the idea of putting lavender essential oil on the

bites. However, Artemis, I thought that lavender was the only

essential oil that could be put on neat, i.e., directly on the skin

without being diluted in a carrier oil, especially with children.

My knowledge of essential oils is mostly book learning, so I'd be

interested in whatever you could tell me about this.

> Thanks, Liz Casey

>

> -

> Artemis Papert

> Chinese Medicine

> Tuesday, October 17, 2006 9:10 AM

> Re: Mosquito Bites

>

>

> Hi Anne,

>

> It's not TCM related, but lavender and eucalyptus essential oil

are great

> against itches or allergic reactions. I put the oils directly on

the skin...

> but make sure it's good quality oils.

>

> Hope this helps,

>

> Artemis

 

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Hi,

 

Of course I should have cautionned to do a 'sensitivity test " first. Put a

drop on the skin and see if there is no adverse reaction to it. Then go for

larger amliunts.

 

In countries like France or Switzerland essential oils are medically

prescribed to be taken orally.

 

Artemis

 

-

Cristian

Chinese Medicine

17 October 2006 19:59

Re: Mosquito Bites

 

 

Hi Folks

 

Be carefull with too much eucalyptus oil directly on the skin as it

may cause irritation and Sensitisation at a solution of 11% or

above. Lavender is safe up to 16%.

 

Best Regards

 

Cristian Christensen

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I've found ( not really practical for so many bites but you could use it on the

most itchy ones) dispersive cone moxa v effective. A cone the size of a chick

pea burnt 1/2 to 2/3 or until the patient feels it as q hot. It brought me

pretty much instantaneous relief when I last used it.

Tony Todd

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Liz

Chinese Medicine

Tuesday, October 17, 2006 3:21 PM

Re: Mosquito Bites

 

 

Anne, I second the idea of putting lavender essential oil on the bites.

However, Artemis, I thought that lavender was the only essential oil that could

be put on neat, i.e., directly on the skin without being diluted in a carrier

oil, especially with children. My knowledge of essential oils is mostly book

learning, so I'd be interested in whatever you could tell me about this.

Thanks, Liz Casey

 

-

Artemis Papert

Chinese Medicine

Tuesday, October 17, 2006 9:10 AM

Re: Mosquito Bites

 

Hi Anne,

 

It's not TCM related, but lavender and eucalyptus essential oil are great

against itches or allergic reactions. I put the oils directly on the skin...

but make sure it's good quality oils.

 

Hope this helps,

 

Artemis

 

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Here in northern Arizona, I get bitten by things I

never see, which leave huge itchy welts that burn if I

scratch 'em. Last year, I scratched some raw in my

sleep, and I still have scars from them. This year, I

needled them - surround the dragon and put one needle

in the center. The itch went away completely,

forever, the bites healed completely, and I have no

scarring.

 

I tried all sorts of topical treatments, but none

worked. What has worked for me for every other insect

bite I ever had in the past, was rubbing alcohol, or

if that was not handy, my own saliva. Sometimes cold

water or ice also helped.

 

 

 

--- Tony Todd <tony wrote:

 

> I've found ( not really practical for so many bites

> but you could use it on the most itchy ones)

> dispersive cone moxa v effective. A cone the size of

> a chick pea burnt 1/2 to 2/3 or until the patient

> feels it as q hot. It brought me pretty much

> instantaneous relief when I last used it.

> Tony Todd

> -

> Liz

> Chinese Medicine

> Tuesday, October 17, 2006 3:21 PM

> Re: Mosquito Bites

>

>

> Anne, I second the idea of putting lavender

> essential oil on the bites. However, Artemis, I

> thought that lavender was the only essential oil

> that could be put on neat, i.e., directly on the

> skin without being diluted in a carrier oil,

> especially with children. My knowledge of essential

> oils is mostly book learning, so I'd be interested

> in whatever you could tell me about this.

> Thanks, Liz Casey

>

> -

> Artemis Papert

> Chinese Medicine

> Tuesday, October 17, 2006 9:10 AM

> Re: Mosquito Bites

>

> Hi Anne,

>

> It's not TCM related, but lavender and eucalyptus

> essential oil are great

> against itches or allergic reactions. I put the

> oils directly on the skin...

> but make sure it's good quality oils.

>

> Hope this helps,

>

> Artemis

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Sorry to respond so late to this, but I wanted to add my 2 cents!

The best thing I have ever found for bug bites is a salve made of

plantain (the leaves of che qian zi plant) and tea tree oil.

 

I have used fresh plantain leaves on bites or just tea tree oil

neat when not had salve on hand--they help slightly on their own,

but in combination in salve, will take the itch out instantly. Have

found nothing better!

 

I used to make it myself, but now just use the salve an herbalist

makes up here in northern california. If anyone is interested in

ordering some, you can contact her, Gail Jullian, by email

commonknowledgeherbs

 

Truly the best! , LAc

 

Chinese Medicine ,

anne.crowley wrote:

>

> Phil:

>

> Do you have a rememdy for mosquito bites. My son (13) went on a

baseball tournament. Was near the beach, and came home with 38

mosquito bites on his arms alone. More on his legs. They look like

mosquito bites but I really don't know. They itch. I did some

GuSha on his back last night to release heat and put Arnica on the

bites. It's what i had in a pinch. Any advice would be appreciated.

>

> Anne

> -------------- Original message ----------------------

> " " <

> > Hi All,

> >

> > Honey application can be effective in infected wounds and ulcers

(including

> > diabetic ulcers) that failed to respond to antibiotic

application. Thanks to

> > for this alert: Honey Remedy Could Save Limbs:

> > http://www.wired.com/news/technology/medtech/0,71925-0.html?

> >

> > See aso:

> >

> > Natarajan S, Williamson D, Grey J, Harding KG, Cooper RA.

Healing of an

> > MRSA-colonized, hydroxyurea-induced leg ulcer with honey. J

Dermatolog

> > Treat. 2001 Mar;12(1):33-6. Wound Healing Research Unit, Univ of

Wales

> > Coll of Med, Heath Park, Cardiff, UK. subramanian_natarajan

> > BACKGROUND: With the everincreasing emergence of antibiotic-

resistant

> > pathogens, in particular methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus

aureus (MRSA)

> > in leg ulcers, a means of reducing the bacterial bioburden of

such ulcers,

> > other than by the use of either topical or systemic antibiotics,

is urgently

> > required. METHODS: We report the case of an immunosuppressed

patient

> > who developed a hydroxyurea-induced leg ulcer with subclinical

MRSA

> > infection which was subsequently treated with topical

application of manuka

> > honey, without cessation of hydroxyurea or cyclosporin. RESULTS:

MRSA

> > was eradicated from the ulcer and rapid healing was successfully

achieved.

> > CONCLUSION: Honey is recognized to have antibacterial

properties, and

> > can also promote effective wound healing. A traditional therapy,

therefore,

> > appears to have enormous potential in solving new problems.

PMID:

> > 12171686 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

> >

> > Okeniyi JA, Olubanjo OO, Ogunlesi TA, Oyelami OA. Comparison of

> > healing of incised abscess wounds with honey and EUSOL dressing.

J

> > Altern Complement Med. 2005 Jun;11(3):511-3. Department of

Paediatrics

> > and Child Health, Obafemi Awolowo University, Ile-Ife, Ilesa,

Nigeria.

> > akinyemiokes2 OBJECTIVE: To clinically compare the healing

> > of abscess wounds dressed with either crude undiluted honey or

Edinburgh

> > University solution of lime (EUSOL). DESIGN: A prospective

clinical

> > randomized study. LOCATION: The Isolation Children's Ward of the

Wesley

> > Guild Hospital, Ilesa, an affiliate of the Obafemi Awolowo

University, Ile-Ife,

> > Nigeria. SUBJECTS: Thirty-two (32) Nigerian children with 43

pyomyositis

> > abcesses. INTERVENTIONS: All subjects had fresh surgical

incision and

> > drainage of the abcesses and a 21-day course of ampicillin plus

cloxacillin

> > (Ampiclox) and gentamicin; the wounds were left to close

spontaneously

> > with twice-daily wound dressing with packing of the abscess

cavity with

> > either honey- or EUSOL-soaked gauze in two randomized treatment

> > groups. OUTCOME MEASURES: The clinical conditions of the wound

sites

> > were documented on days 1, 3, 7, and 21 as either clean or

dirty, dry or wet,

> > granulation tissue present or absent, and epithelialization

present or absent;

> > the length of hospital stay was also measured. RESULTS: Honey-

treated

> > wounds demonstrated quicker healing and the length of hospital

stay was

> > significantly shorter in patients with honey-treated wounds than

those

> > treated with EUSOL (t = 2.45, p = 0.019). CONCLUSIONS: Honey is

a

> > superior wound dressing agent to EUSOL. Honey is recommended for

the

> > dressing of infected wounds, more so in tropical countries,

where it is most

> > readily available. PMID: 15992237 [PubMed - indexed for

MEDLINE]

> >

> > Chambers J. Topical manuka honey for MRSA-contaminated skin

ulcers.

> > Palliat Med. 2006 Jul;20(5):557. PMID: 16903411 [PubMed - in

process]

> >

> > al Somal N, Coley KE, Molan PC, Hancock BM. Susceptibility of

> > Helicobacter pylori to the antibacterial activity of manuka

honey. J R Soc

> > Med. 1994 Jan;87(1):9-12. Comment in: J R Soc Med. 1994

> > Oct;87(10):644. Department of Biological Sciences, University of

Waikato,

> > Hamilton, New Zealand. Honey is a traditional remedy for

dyspepsia, and is

> > still used for this by some medical practitioners although there

is no rational

> > basis for its use. The finding that Helicobacter pylori is

probably the

> > causative agent in many cases of dyspepsia has raised the

possibility that

> > the therapeutic action of honey may be due to its antibacterial

properties.

> > Consequently, the sensitivity of Helicobacter pylori to honey

was tested,

> > using isolates from biopsies of gastric ulcers. It was found

that all five

> > isolates tested were sensitive to a 20% (v/v) solution of manuka

honey in an

> > agar well diffusion assay, but none showed sensitivity to a 40%

solution of a

> > honey in which the antibacterial activity was due primarily to

its content of

> > hydrogen peroxide. Assessment of the minimum inhibitory

concentration by

> > inclusion of manuka honey in the agar showed that all seven

isolates tested

> > had visible growth over the incubation period of 72 h prevented

completely

> > by the presence of 5% (v/v) honey. PMID: 8308841 [PubMed -

indexed for

> > MEDLINE]

> >

> > Cooper R, Molan P. The use of honey as an antiseptic in managing

> > Pseudomonas infection. Wound Care. 1999 Apr;8(4):161-4. Comment

in: J

> > Wound Care. 1999 Apr;8(4):155. School of Biomedical Sciences,

University

> > of Wales Institute, Cardiff, UK. A laboratory study was

undertaken to extend

> > existing knowledge about the effectiveness of the antibacterial

properties of

> > honey against pseudomonads. To date, sensitivity testing has

used non-

> > standardised honeys, which may vary greatly in their

antibacterial potency.

> > Pure cultures of Pseudomonas spp, isolated from swabs from 20

infected

> > wounds, were inoculated on the surface of nutrient agar plates

containing

> > various concentrations of honey in the medium. Two types of

honey were

> > used, a manuka honey and a pasture honey, each selected to have

> > antibacterial activity close to the median for each type. The

minimum

> > inhibitory concentration of the manuka honey for the 20 isolates

ranged

> > from 5.5-8.7% (v/v) (mean 6.9% (v/v), standard deviation 1.3).

The

> > minimum inhibitory concentration of the pasture honey for the 20

isolates

> > ranged from 5.8-9.0% (v/v) (mean 7.1% (v/v), standard deviation

1.0).

> > Honeys with an average level of antibacterial activity could be

expected to

> > be effective in preventing the growth of pseudomonads on the

surface of a

> > wound even if the honey were diluted more than ten-fold by

exudation from

> > the wound. PMID: 10455629 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

> >

> > Al-Waili NS. Investigating the antimicrobial activity of natural

honey and its

> > effects on the pathogenic bacterial infections of surgical

wounds and

> > conjunctiva. J Med Food. 2004 Summer;7(2):210-22. Dubai

Specialized

> > Med Center and Med Research Labs, Islamic Establishment for

Education,

> > PO Box 19099, Dubai, United Arab Emirates. noori786

> > Antimicrobial activities of 10-100% (wt/vol) concentrations of

new honey,

> > stored honey, heated honey, ultraviolet-exposed honey, and

heated stored

> > honey were tested against common human pathogens, including

> > Escherichia coli, Entrobacter cloacae, Pseudomonas aeruginosa,

Shigella

> > dysenteriae, Klebsiella sp., Haemophilus influenzae, Proteus

sp.,

> > Staphylococcus aureus, Streptococcus hemolyticus group B, and

Candida

> > albicans. Antimicrobial activity of honey was tested in acidic,

neutral, or

> > alkaline media. These were compared with similar concentrations

of

> > glucose in nutrient broth. Surgical wounds were made on the

dorsum of

> > mice and infected with S. aureus or Klebsiella sp. The wounds

were treated

> > with local application of honey four times a day or appropriate

antibiotics

> > and compared with control values. Bacterial conjunctivitis due

to E. coli,

> > Proteus sp., S. aureus, Klebsiella sp., and P. aeruginosa was

induced in

> > rats. Conjunctival application of honey four times a day or

appropriate

> > antibiotics was used for treatment and compared with control

values.

> > Growth of all the isolates was completely inhibited by 30-100%

honey

> > concentrations. The most sensitive microbes were E. coli, P.

aeruginosa,

> > and H. influenzae. Glucose showed less antimicrobial activity

than honey,

> > and many microbes showed positive culture even in 100% glucose.

Heating

> > to 80 degrees C for 1 hour decreased antimicrobial activity of

both new and

> > stored honey. Storage of honey for 5 years decreased its

antimicrobial

> > activity, while ultraviolet light exposure increased its

activity against some

> > of

> > the microorganisms. Antimicrobial activity of honey was stronger

in acidic

> > media than in neutral or alkaline media. Single doses of honey

used to

> > prepare the 60% concentration in nutrient broth were

bacteriocidal for P.

> > aeruginosa and bacteriostatic for S. aureus and Klebsiella sp.

during certain

> > periods. Local application of raw honey on infected wounds

reduced

> > redness, swelling, time for complete resolution of lesion, and

time for

> > eradication of bacterial infection due to S. aureus or

Klebsiella sp. Its

> > potency was comparable to that of local antibiotics. Honey

application into

> > infective conjunctivitis reduced redness, swelling, pus

discharge, and time

> > for eradication of bacterial infections due to all the isolates

tested. PMID:

> > 15298770 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

> >

> > Lusby PE, Coombes A, Wilkinson JM. Honey: a potent agent for

wound

> > healing? J Wound Ostomy Continence Nurs. 2002 Nov;29(6):295-

300.

> > Links Comment in: J Wound Ostomy Continence Nurs. 2002

> > Nov;29(6):273-4. School of Biomedical Sciences, Charles Sturt

University,

> > Wagga Wagga, Australia. Although honey has been used as a

traditional

> > remedy for burns and wounds, the potential for its inclusion in

mainstream

> > medical care is not well recognized. Many studies have

demonstrated that

> > honey has antibacterial activity in vitro, and a small number of

clinical case

> > studies have shown that application of honey to severely

infected cutaneous

> > wounds is capable of clearing infection from the wound and

improving

> > tissue healing. The physicochemical properties (eg, osmotic

effects and pH)

> > of honey also aid in its antibacterial actions. Research has

also indicated

> > that honey may possess antiinflammatory activity and stimulate

immune

> > responses within a wound. The overall effect is to reduce

infection and to

> > enhance wound healing in burns, ulcers, and other cutaneous

wounds. It is

> > also known that honeys derived from particular floral sources in

Australia

> > and New Zealand (Leptospermum spp) have enhanced antibacterial

> > activity, and these honeys have been approved for marketing as

therapeutic

> > honeys (Medihoney and Active Manuka honey). This review outlines

what is

> > known about the medical properties of honey and indicates the

potential for

> > honey to be incorporated into the management of a large number

of wound

> > types. PMID: 12439453 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

> >

> > Best regards,

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Even better,

look around your feet for the live herb and tear off a piece, chew it a

little bit and slap it on the bite, works fairly instantly, doesn't cost

anything but a thank you to the plant.

Grows most places in the US.

 

Rozz

 

wrote:

> Sorry to respond so late to this, but I wanted to add my 2 cents!

> The best thing I have ever found for bug bites is a salve made of

> plantain (the leaves of che qian zi plant) and tea tree oil.

>

> I have used fresh plantain leaves on bites or just tea tree oil

> neat when not had salve on hand--they help slightly on their own,

> but in combination in salve, will take the itch out instantly. Have

> found nothing better!

>

> I used to make it myself, but now just use the salve an herbalist

> makes up here in northern california. If anyone is interested in

> ordering some, you can contact her, Gail Jullian, by email

> commonknowledgeherbs

>

> Truly the best! , LAc

>

> Chinese Medicine ,

> anne.crowley wrote:

>

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On Sunday 22 October 2006 12:40, Rozz Lieght wrote:

> Even better,

> look around your feet for the live herb and tear off a piece, chew it a

> little bit and slap it on the bite, works fairly instantly, doesn't cost

> anything but a thank you to the plant.

> Grows most places in the US.

 

Hi Rozz!

 

The only thing that I can think of that grows most places in the US is

crabgrass. Plantain? Is that not sort of a brown banana that you have to cook

before you eat it?

--

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Pete

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OH, no no no,

Plantain is the plant where you get the seeds from in Chinese medicine:

che qian zi. look at the picture in the book on page 277. The leaves

are what is called monocot, they are parallel. Besides using them for

insect bites (they are really handy for wasps and bees) they can be used

as a poultice for toxic swellings and they can be eaten as forage food.

 

Rozz

 

Pete Theisen wrote:

> On Sunday 22 October 2006 12:40, Rozz Lieght wrote:

>

>> Even better,

>> look around your feet for the live herb and tear off a piece, chew it a

>> little bit and slap it on the bite, works fairly instantly, doesn't cost

>> anything but a thank you to the plant.

>> Grows most places in the US.

>>

>

> Hi Rozz!

>

> The only thing that I can think of that grows most places in the US is

> crabgrass. Plantain? Is that not sort of a brown banana that you have to cook

> before you eat it?

>

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On Sunday 22 October 2006 22:25, Rozz Lieght wrote:

 

Hi Rozz!

 

I don't recall seeing any che qian zi growing around here. I guess I could

plant some. Think it would grow in Florida? You said I could find it around

my feet?

 

> OH, no no no,

> Plantain is the plant where you get the seeds from in Chinese medicine:

> che qian zi. look at the picture in the book on page 277. The leaves

> are what is called monocot, they are parallel. Besides using them for

> insect bites (they are really handy for wasps and bees) they can be used

> as a poultice for toxic swellings and they can be eaten as forage food.

--

Regards,

 

Pete

http://www.pete-theisen.com/

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On Sunday 22 October 2006 22:25, Rozz Lieght wrote:

> OH, no no no,

> Plantain is the plant where you get the seeds from in Chinese medicine:

> che qian zi. look at the picture in the book on page 277. The leaves

> are what is called monocot, they are parallel. Besides using them for

> insect bites (they are really handy for wasps and bees) they can be used

> as a poultice for toxic swellings and they can be eaten as forage food.

<snip>

> > On Sunday 22 October 2006 12:40, Rozz Lieght wrote:

> >> Even better,

> >> look around your feet for the live herb and tear off a piece, chew it a

> >> little bit and slap it on the bite, works fairly instantly, doesn't cost

> >> anything but a thank you to the plant.

> >> Grows most places in the US.

 

Hi Rozz!

 

Here we go:

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plantago

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Pete

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Hi,

 

I don't know the Latin name of che qian zi but in Western herbalism uses

Plantago lanceolata. Helps heal cuts and also great for coughs. It is comun

in Europe, but I wouldn't go as far as saying it grows " everywhere " .

 

Artemis

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Actually, plantain is the same name given to the plant

Rozz is describing and also to the tropical species of

bnaana that is cooked. Plantain (che qian zi variety)

grows in moist places. I moved to the high desert in

Arizona a couple of years ago, and it does not grow

here. One of my favorite plants - I miss seeing it.

 

 

 

--- Rozz Lieght <Rusty7 wrote:

 

> OH, no no no,

> Plantain is the plant where you get the seeds from

> in Chinese medicine:

> che qian zi. look at the picture in the book on

> page 277. The leaves

> are what is called monocot, they are parallel.

> Besides using them for

> insect bites (they are really handy for wasps and

> bees) they can be used

> as a poultice for toxic swellings and they can be

> eaten as forage food.

>

> Rozz

>

> Pete Theisen wrote:

> > On Sunday 22 October 2006 12:40, Rozz Lieght

> wrote:

> >

> >> Even better,

> >> look around your feet for the live herb and tear

> off a piece, chew it a

> >> little bit and slap it on the bite, works fairly

> instantly, doesn't cost

> >> anything but a thank you to the plant.

> >> Grows most places in the US.

> >>

> >

> > Hi Rozz!

> >

> > The only thing that I can think of that grows most

> places in the US is

> > crabgrass. Plantain? Is that not sort of a brown

> banana that you have to cook

> > before you eat it?

> >

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

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