Guest guest Posted May 5, 2001 Report Share Posted May 5, 2001 Doctor: I have been told that raw egg WHITES are a No-No as the protein in them, albumin attaches to the B-Vitamins in the raw egg yolks. Have you heard of this? Kristine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2001 Report Share Posted May 8, 2001 The only time it becomes a problem is when you cook 'em which destroys the enzymes necessary to process the albumin and the cholestrol I might add. The enzymes in raw egg are also necessary for the liver to create its own supply of glutathione. Gotta be organic though. Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington - The Halls herbal remedies Saturday, May 05, 2001 1:35 AM [herbal remedies] Re: Raw EGGS in Total Nutrition Taste Doctor:I have been told that raw egg WHITES are a No-No as the protein in them,albumin attaches to the B-Vitamins in the raw egg yolks. Have you heard ofthis?KristineFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2001 Report Share Posted May 8, 2001 From a blood test done 10+ years ago, it was evident that I was allergic to egg white (albumin). Does this mean I shouldn't put that part in my morning drink with the Total Nutrition? Or should I disregard that data? Right now I have digestive problems no matter what I do. Cheryl Ian Shillington N.D. The only time it becomes a problem is when you cook 'em which destroys the enzymes necessary to process the albumin and the cholestrol I might add. The enzymes in raw egg are also necessary for the liver to create its own supply of glutathione. Gotta be organic though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2001 Report Share Posted May 11, 2001 Cheryl, what I'd do in your case is start off with only one egg, or even 1/2 an egg (how do you get 1/2 an egg with equal amounts of white and yoke? You blend it first and pour off 1/2 of what's left.) and see what kind of reaction you get. If you still get a negative reaction from even a 1/2 or a 1/4 or an 1/8th of a raw egg then I'd say you had a true allergy. If you get no reaction to one, then I'd raise it up to the recommended two and see how you do there. Anyone who has an "allergy" to a raw, whole food organic food is suspect in my books. Not that it isn't possible and someone who is VERY experienced in muscle testing who knows that in most of the cases of herbs or wholesome foods, that the allergic offender is sometimes exactly what we need to get well (a Homeopathic principle), the muscle tester could also probably discern this if he really is good. The first thing I'd do Cheryl is take a look at what you're currently eating to see if there is something there that you shouldn't be eating such as but not limited to: 1. White sugar in any of your foods. 2. White enriched flour in any of your foods. 3. Hydrogenated oil in any of your foods. 5. Coffee of any kind including decaf. 6. Alcohol. 7. Cigarettes. 8. Grocery store bought meats (all of 'em) 9. Non organic foods Now there's food for thought ;o) Love, Doc Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington From a blood test done 10+ years ago, it was evident that I was allergic to egg white (albumin). Does this mean I shouldn't put that part in my morning drink with the Total Nutrition? Or should I disregard that data? Right now I have digestive problems no matter what I do. Cheryl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2001 Report Share Posted May 11, 2001 Ian, I'm trying to do away with dairy as much as possible. The subject of eggs keeps coming up. Just because eggs are organic, does that make them mucous-free????? And also, if they are organic, does that mean they are not likely to get salmonella? When I was young, a long time ago, I used to put raw eggs in a blender. But now, quite frankly, I worry about doing so. Thanks for your input, Valerie Auctions - Click and bid on cool stuff like Dave Matthews Band Tickets more! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2001 Report Share Posted May 11, 2001 >>Now there's food for thought ;o) LOL! Doc, thanks so much for the egg/digestion comments. I am already consuming the eggs with my morning drink and it doesn't seem to make things any worse. I've always wondered what kind/condition was the egg they tested my blood with. I've recently started taking something called Experience by Awareness Corp. This has worked wonders to eliminate gas other times when I have taken it regularly (so does lots of fresh veggies.) I just have to remember to take it every night before bed. Ingredients: blonde psyllium seed husk, rhubarb root, fennel seed, cornsilk, King Solomon seed, and kelp. I wonder if psyllium seed husk alone would do the job? Doc, do you feed your chickens organic feed or free range? We buy feed but I doubt it's organic. The cows get feed store hay too, plus they get to graze a huge pasture. I suppose, the end result is not organic if we're buying nonorganic feed. Aside from growing our own, I don't know how to help this. I'll give the feedstores a call. ~Cheryl Cheryl, what I'd do in your case is start off with only one egg, or even 1/2 an egg (how do you get 1/2 an egg with equal amounts of white and yoke? You blend it first and pour off 1/2 of what's left.) and see what kind of reaction you get. If you still get a negative reaction from even a 1/2 or a 1/4 or an 1/8th of a raw egg then I'd say you had a true allergy. If you get no reaction to one, then I'd raise it up to the recommended two and see how you do there. Anyone who has an "allergy" to a raw, whole food organic food is suspect in my books. Not that it isn't possible and someone who is VERY experienced in muscle testing who knows that in most of the cases of herbs or wholesome foods, that the allergic offender is sometimes exactly what we need to get well (a Homeopathic principle), the muscle tester could also probably discern this if he really is good. The first thing I'd do Cheryl is take a look at what you're currently eating to see if there is something there that you shouldn't be eating such as but not limited to: 1. White sugar in any of your foods. 2. White enriched flour in any of your foods. 3. Hydrogenated oil in any of your foods. 5. Coffee of any kind including decaf. 6. Alcohol. 7. Cigarettes. 8. Grocery store bought meats (all of 'em) 9. Non organic foods Now there's food for thought ;o) Love, Doc Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2001 Report Share Posted May 14, 2001 Dear Valerie, I don't know why eggs have been classified as "dairy" as there is absolutely no relationship between a cow and a hen ;o) There is way more mucous in milk, cheese, and other "dairy" products than there is in eggs, and when was the last time someone you know came down with salmonella??? This salmonella scare is absolutely ridiculous and is designed to scare everyone away from one of nature's most perfect foods. I personally feel that the poulty biz should sue the cattle biz for slander (LOL). Ole Doc Jensen was a great proponent of raw organic eggs. Most of my over 300 patients eat raw organic eggs including very young children with tremendous benefit. Not only have none of my patients ever come down with salmonella, I have never personally heard of a case or ever had to treat one. Last but not least, if you ever did come down with it (probably 1 in 10,000 chance) it is one of the easiest things to get rid of and is no more serious than a cold. In the research I've done on Salmonella, most of the people who do get it, never knew they even had once its gone. This is NOT serious ;o) Love, Ian Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington Ian, I'm trying to do away with dairy as much as possible. The subject of eggs keeps coming up. Just because eggs are organic, does that make them mucous-free????? And also, if they are organic, does that mean they are not likely to get salmonella? When I was young, a long time ago, I used to put raw eggs in a blender. But now, quite frankly, I worry about doing so. Thanks for your input, Valerie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2001 Report Share Posted May 14, 2001 See answers below. Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington Doc, thanks so much for the egg/digestion comments. I am already consuming the eggs with my morning drink and it doesn't seem to make things any worse. I've always wondered what kind/condition was the egg they tested my blood with. Really! I've recently started taking something called Experience by Awareness Corp. This has worked wonders to eliminate gas other times when I have taken it regularly (so does lots of fresh veggies.) I just have to remember to take it every night before bed. Ingredients: blonde psyllium seed husk, rhubarb root, fennel seed, cornsilk, King Solomon seed, and kelp. I wonder if psyllium seed husk alone would do the job? Nope! The Psyllium seed husk alone would plug you up. In the above formula, it's the Turkey Rhubarb root which is keeping you regular. Doc, do you feed your chickens organic feed or free range? We buy feed but I doubt it's organic. The cows get feed store hay too, plus they get to graze a huge pasture. I suppose, the end result is not organic if we're buying nonorganic feed. Aside from growing our own, I don't know how to help this. I'll give the feedstores a call. Best bet is to buy your grains bulk by joining a coop. It works out pretty cheap when you do it that way and when you buy organic grains in bulk it is actually cheaper then getting the commercial crap (pardon my language). Give it a try, you'll love it. Love, Doc PS. I noticed you failed to comment on my diet suggestions ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2001 Report Share Posted May 14, 2001 Nope! The Psyllium seed husk alone would plug you up. In the above formula, it's the Turkey Rhubarb root which is keeping you regular. It's not keeping regular that I need so much as getting digestive aid. I get gas within ten minutes of eating almost anything (everything but most fruits and vegetables, which have the enzymes, of course). But this stuff takes care of that when I stay on it. Best bet is to buy your grains bulk by joining a coop. It works out pretty cheap when you do it that way and when you buy organic grains in bulk it is actually cheaper then getting the commercial crap (pardon my language). Give it a try, you'll love it. I do buy my grains, organic, from a coop--for the family. I had never considered buying for the poultry from this source. We have many chickens (and more now that several of us are consuming 2 raw eggs a day!), so it may cost a lot, but I will definitely look into it. I don't think we could afford to feed the meat/milk cows that way, but they graze mostly, so I'll do my math on that too. Thanks for the idea! Love, Doc PS. I noticed you failed to comment on my diet suggestions ) Well, perhaps that's because I don't want to face the changes I need to make. My diet is better than the average, but I fall short of the ideal. White flour and sugar - I normally consume very little, though I have been more lax about it in the last year (fresh tomato sanwiches on sour dough bread, tortilla chips with fresh homemade salsa, and too many homemade desserts sometimes). Years ago, my kids would get something like a whole wheat ginger cake, made with honey, for their birthday. Meat - I am eating a little more since you told me I need more protein. It is not organic. None-the-less, I still don't eat it often and very little of it at that. Dairy - the same Water - We have good well water, and I drink a fair amount, but ought to be sure to get 10 + glasses a day. I eat whole grains, and some (usually not enough) seeds and nuts regularly. I don't see your list of recommended foods at hand to address the other points. But I can say that I'm sure the one thing that would improve my health the most is more raw vegetables (and fruit). I don't think you had included this on your list. I believe this is a vital missing link in the average American diet, and even for those of us who are trying to get well struggling with various illnesses. Let's eat more veggies! Much admiration to you, Doc, and those of you who consume the ideal diet. We could all feel so much better if we made these changes. (Don't you find, generally, that processed/inferior foods usually aren't all that tasty anyway?) I do walk/hike nearly every day. I'm doing a lot of the right things, but I could do more, and I could feel better. Again, thanks for all your help and encouragement. Love, Cheryl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2001 Report Share Posted May 15, 2001 See answers below. Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington It's not keeping regular that I need so much as getting digestive aid. I get gas within ten minutes of eating almost anything (everything but most fruits and vegetables, which have the enzymes, of course). But this stuff takes care of that when I stay on it. Sounds good. I do buy my grains, organic, from a coop--for the family. I had never considered buying for the poultry from this source. We have many chickens (and more now that several of us are consuming 2 raw eggs a day!), so it may cost a lot, but I will definitely look into it. I don't think we could afford to feed the meat/milk cows that way, but they graze mostly, so I'll do my math on that too. Thanks for the idea! You're welcome! The idea hit me after Y2K was over and I had a ton of grain left around with my chickens begging me for a taste ;o) Well, perhaps that's because I don't want to face the changes I need to make. My diet is better than the average, but I fall short of the ideal. White flour and sugar - I normally consume very little, though I have been more lax about it in the last year (fresh tomato sanwiches on sour dough bread, tortilla chips with fresh homemade salsa, and too many homemade desserts sometimes). Years ago, my kids would get something like a whole wheat ginger cake, made with honey, for their birthday. Meat - I am eating a little more since you told me I need more protein. It is not organic. None-the-less, I still don't eat it often and very little of it at that. Dairy - the same Actually, I'd rather go vegan rather then eat the meat that's on the market nowadays, I feel that strongly about it. Too many hormones and antibiotics. Water - We have good well water, and I drink a fair amount, but ought to be sure to get 10 + glasses a day. I eat whole grains, and some (usually not enough) seeds and nuts regularly. I don't see your list of recommended foods at hand to address the other points. But I can say that I'm sure the one thing that would improve my health the most is more raw vegetables (and fruit). I don't think you had included this on your list. I believe this is a vital missing link in the average American diet, and even for those of us who are trying to get well struggling with various illnesses. Let's eat more veggies! Much admiration to you, Doc, and those of you who consume the ideal diet. We could all feel so much better if we made these changes. (Don't you find, generally, that processed/inferior foods usually aren't all that tasty anyway?) Most definitely! I do walk/hike nearly every day. I'm doing a lot of the right things, but I could do more, and I could feel better. Again, thanks for all your help and encouragement. My pleasure hon, and you really are doing a lot of the right things. Rome wasn't built in a day, and neither is good health. Neither is disease for that matter. I find it is better to approach these things one step at a time as you are doing. Keep up the good work. Love, Doc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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