Education. basics.

May 3, 2001

Dear Ian, glad you are okay and back. Interesting test! My son just went to take his tests the State of Oregon requires for 8th grade children that are homeschooled. I printed the one you sent to show him. Thanks, Patty

Eighth grade exam in 1895

May 3, 2001

What did your son think of the test??? I too have homeschooled my son and I think I'll give him the project of researching all the answers that were demanded of that test. A great research project.

Love,

Doc

Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington

My son just went to take his tests the State of Oregon requires for 8th grade children that are homeschooled. I printed the one you sent to show him. Thanks, Patty

May 4, 2001

Hi Doc, as for the State tests, he says they were "boring"! He was supposed to take 3 hours and he was home before 2 1/2. Mind you he rode his bike there. He says the vocabulary and English was too easy. He has been reading and doing High School vocabulary all year. The Math he said was all basic, here again he is into advanced--High School and some College (I don't teach him this, he has a 'brainy math teacher').

As for the 1895 test, he thought it was 'Cool'. I too think he will be assigned to get the answers correct. This was very interesting to me as well. Thanks again Doc, you are an inspiration. Patty

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Ian Shillington N.D.

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Thursday, May 03, 2001 11:28 AM

Re: [herbal remedies] Education. basics.

What did your son think of the test??? I too have homeschooled my son and I think I'll give him the project of researching all the answers that were demanded of that test. A great research project.

Love,

Doc

Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington

My son just went to take his tests the State of Oregon requires for 8th grade children that are homeschooled. I printed the one you sent to show him. Thanks, PattyFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

May 4, 2001

Yer welcome hon.

Love,

Doc

Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington

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patricia seifert

herbal remedies

Thursday, May 03, 2001 7:24 PM

Re: [herbal remedies] Education. basics.

Hi Doc, as for the State tests, he says they were "boring"! He was supposed to take 3 hours and he was home before 2 1/2. Mind you he rode his bike there. He says the vocabulary and English was too easy. He has been reading and doing High School vocabulary all year. The Math he said was all basic, here again he is into advanced--High School and some College (I don't teach him this, he has a 'brainy math teacher').

As for the 1895 test, he thought it was 'Cool'. I too think he will be assigned to get the answers correct. This was very interesting to me as well. Thanks again Doc, you are an inspiration. Patty

May 4, 2001

I would love to get my children out of the school system and

homeschool them. I think the school system here stinks. They are

both very bright and my daughter is not being challenged enough. I

never knew even where to begin and if we're even qualified or how to

do this. We also felt they would be missing out on the social

aspects. Any opinions on this? Is this too off topic?

Cathy

herbal remedies, " Ian Shillington N.D. "

<Dr.IanShillington@G...> wrote:

> Yer welcome hon.

> Love,

> Doc

>

> Ian " Doc " Shillington N.D.

> 505-772-5889

> Dr.IanShillington@G...

> -

> patricia seifert

> herbal remedies

> Thursday, May 03, 2001 7:24 PM

> Re: [herbal remedies] Education. basics.

>

> Hi Doc, as for the State tests, he says they were " boring " ! He was

> supposed to take 3 hours and he was home before 2 1/2. Mind you he

rode

> his bike there. He says the vocabulary and English was too easy.

He has

> been reading and doing High School vocabulary all year. The Math he

said

> was all basic, here again he is into advanced--High School and some

> College (I don't teach him this, he has a 'brainy math teacher').

> As for the 1895 test, he thought it was 'Cool'. I too think he

will be

> assigned to get the answers correct. This was very interesting to

me as

> well. Thanks again Doc, you are an inspiration. Patty

May 4, 2001

Hello Cathy...

I homeschooled my eldest daughter. I have also known others who

have homeschooled quite successfully. (One mother homeschooled all

of her eight kids. She had a K-12!!!) There are home school

associations. In our state, you can home school legally (some you

can't). You register your child through your local ESD (Educational

Service District). Then you would align yourself with either a group

of people who are also homeschooling or an association. Doing this

allows that social contact. The lady I mentioned above did this.

Every two weeks, she'd gather up her kids and spend a day of activities

with other parents & kids so they'd have that social piece. Her

kids are all quite intelligent. There are many success stories.

There are also some not-so-successful stories. Most of these have

to do with the parent being unstructured. Classes were not held regularly

for the child and they lacked focus. Remember, curriculum is important.

(And by the way, the public school system in most places "stinks.")

Good luck!

Gogi

cathy markowich wrote:

I would love to get my children out of the school system

and

homeschool them. I think the school system here stinks.

May 4, 2001

In case you are wondering what my biases are in relation to public

schools, as a teacher in one, I feel like I am that little Dutch boy

(only I am female) with my finger plugged in a very old dike, trying to

fix a very weakened, unsafe, unsound, ready-to-collapse dike when all

around me spring new leaks. I don't have enough fingers to plug them

all. And!!!! If all those leaks weren't enough, I appear to be the

only one (that I know of) who sees a huge fissure running the length of

the dike's wall, cracking deeper and deeper and about to BLOW!

Gogi

> (And by the way, the public school system in most places " stinks. " )

>

> Good luck!

> Gogi

>

May 5, 2001

Very important and one of the places the psychs have infiltrated their little perversions. One of my associates told me of a school where one of the classes on the curriculum was having the student mock up their own funeral.

Sheeeeeeesh! Move over Dracula!!!!!

Doc

Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington

Remember, curriculum is important.

(And by the way, the public school system in most places "stinks.") Good luck! Gogi cathy markowich wrote: I would love to get my children out of the school system and homeschool them. I think the school system here stinks.Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

May 5, 2001

Hang in there Kiddo. My heart goes out to you.

If you ever need an extra finger for that dike... - wellllll, the one I have in mind is already aimed at the "establishment" ;o)

Love,

Doc

Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington

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Gogi

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Friday, May 04, 2001 7:14 AM

Re: [herbal remedies] Re: Education. basics.

In case you are wondering what my biases are in relation to publicschools, as a teacher in one, I feel like I am that little Dutch boy(only I am female) with my finger plugged in a very old dike, trying tofix a very weakened, unsafe, unsound, ready-to-collapse dike when allaround me spring new leaks. I don't have enough fingers to plug themall. And!!!! If all those leaks weren't enough, I appear to be theonly one (that I know of) who sees a huge fissure running the length ofthe dike's wall, cracking deeper and deeper and about to BLOW!Gogi> (And by the way, the public school system in most places "stinks.")>> Good luck!> Gogi>Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

May 5, 2001

LOL!!!!

Gogi

"Ian Shillington N.D." wrote:

Hang in there Kiddo. My heart

goes out to you. If you ever need an extra finger for that dike...

- wellllll, the one I have in mind is already aimed at the "establishment"

;o) Love, Doc

May 5, 2001

Oh good grief. What next? I thought I had seen it all (or taught

it all, I used to be a school counselor, called "Child Development Specialist"

here). As a CDS person, we were required to teach at least 16 lessons

in all the grades in elementary school (our district still has K-6) besides

counseling an increasing population of dysfunctional kids. I had

to teach a curriculum called "Empathy Training." Part of this curriculum

is designed to teach the kids that when they call people names or hit them

-- it hurts the other person. Duh! Can you believe we must

teach our kids this now? Or better yet, that a district sees a NEED

to teach our kids this?

I have a friend who was asked recently to be in the Bush cabinet.

He declined for various reasons, but he has the ears of those people now

in power in Washington, DC. Trust me, I am bending HIS ear about

the shape of education, and he, in turn, is bending their ears. We'll

see if there's a positive outcome to all this "bending."

Gogi

"Ian Shillington N.D." wrote:

Very important and one of the places

the psychs have infiltrated their little perversions. One of my associates

told me of a school where one of the classes on the curriculum was having

the student mock up their own funeral. Sheeeeeeesh! Move over

Dracula!!!!! Doc

May 5, 2001

In a message dated 5/5/01 12:08:29 AM, Dr.IanShillington writes:

> One of my associates told me of a school where one

>

>of the classes on the curriculum was having the student mock up their

>

>own funeral.

>

>Sheeeeeeesh! Move over Dracula!!!!!

How odd!!! Now in my profession-the deathcare industry at the moment, I had

to do that as part of my training but to ask a child to do it is just plain

morbid!!!

Paulissa,

I've heard it said that we're born with only a few

fears - like the fear of falling and the fear of loud noises. All

other fears we learn along the way. Like the fear of failure, the

fear of rejection - even a fear of success. I believe our

greatest enemy in life is fear, because fear keeps us from doing many

of those things we would like to do that would make our life

more complete and more enjoyable.

May 5, 2001

In a message dated 5/5/01 7:35:21 AM, crusso writes:

>I had to teach a curriculum called " Empathy Training. " Part of

>this curriculum is designed to teach the kids that when they call people

>names or hit them -- it hurts the other person. Duh! Can you believe

>we must teach our kids this now? Or better yet, that a district sees a

>NEED to teach our kids this?

I would venture to say that in light of Columbine and other recent school

shootings and attempts, that it should be absolutely crystal clear why this

training is necessary. I know that when I went to public school I endured 8

years of total bullshit b/c of the good old boys establishment that just

recently adopted a policy to stop the same kind of crap-sexual harassment,

bullying, physical abuse, etc. that I endured for 8 years-- so sorry, you can

whine and moan all you want about having to teach empathy to kids but believe

me, they will never suffer because they learned how to care for others.

Paulissa,

I've heard it said that we're born with only a few

fears - like the fear of falling and the fear of loud noises. All

other fears we learn along the way. Like the fear of failure, the

fear of rejection - even a fear of success. I believe our

greatest enemy in life is fear, because fear keeps us from doing many

of those things we would like to do that would make our life

more complete and more enjoyable.

May 5, 2001

In a message dated 5/5/01 5:10:17 PM, crusso writes:

>My point, however, was that

>this kind of " training " needs to be done AT HOME by the PARENTS and from

>the time the child learns cognitive thinking. It should not be part of

>the curriculum of a school.

Oh exactly!!! But since many parents don't teach these things in the home, it

then falls to the teachers and though it isn't the teachers job per se, if

they don't teach it, who will?? Some children will grow up never having had

the experience of kind words, a gentle touch and feelings of compassion for

another person.

Paulissa,

I've heard it said that we're born with only a few

fears - like the fear of falling and the fear of loud noises. All

other fears we learn along the way. Like the fear of failure, the

fear of rejection - even a fear of success. I believe our

greatest enemy in life is fear, because fear keeps us from doing many

of those things we would like to do that would make our life

more complete and more enjoyable.

May 6, 2001

Thanks, Paulissa, for sharing this personal account, and I totally agree

with you that no one should endure such BS. My point, however, was

that this kind of "training" needs to be done AT HOME by the PARENTS and

from the time the child learns cognitive thinking. It should

not be part of the curriculum of a school. We should

get back to the Basics.

Gogi

naturehlr wrote:

In a message dated 5/5/01 7:35:21 AM, crusso writes:

>I had to teach a curriculum called "Empathy Training."

I know that when I went to public school I endured

8

years of total bullshit b/c of the good old boys establishment

you can

whine and moan all you want about having to teach empathy to kids

but believe

me, they will never suffer because they learned how to care for

others.

Paulissa,

May 6, 2001

Cathy,

Regarding the social aspects of homeschooling I'd like to mention that if

you really think about it, you will realize children learn their negative

behaviors from peers. That's where they learn to make fun of others and be

" Clicky " or snobs or whatever. That's where they learn about shoplifting or

cheating on tests. And that is where they are exposed to drugs and

cigarettes. They learn how to treat others rightly from adults, especially

by watching their parents. The less your children are around other

children, the less negative behavior they will be able to learn. My

children have been homeschooled all their academic lives yet they are quite

social. Family members were always bringing the " social " thing up to us.

But now that our oldest is 14 and they are seeing how they are " turning out "

they have nothing but approval and support. Your interaction with your

children is what will teach them how to treat one another and if you are

social they will be social.

My children learn without knowing they are actually learning. As they are

getting older now they have developed interests on their own and have begun

doing lots of reading trying to find out more. My son loves history. He

has read and knows more about world history that anyone I have ever known.

And he has probably read 1/4 of the material in our encyclopedias trying to

find out information. I actually have to force him to stop reading to get

work out of him. Writing is harder for him, but it wouldn't be any easier

for him if he were in the public school system. I know that he is doing

much better than he would have in the system, but more importantly, he has a

quest for knowledge and knows how to find it. That's one of the things he

does in his spare time.

My daughter is 10. She loves animals and nature. She has read lots about

birds recently and has a log of all the birds that come to our feeders, what

time of day they come, what birds eat what food, etc. She did this all on

her own. If anything I have discouraged her from sitting there and watching

her birds. We live trapped squirrels this winter because they are causing

so much damage to our roof and strawberry gardens. Anyway she kept some in

rabbit cages and one of the females has babies now. Chasya feeds them and

cares for them everyday. She is watching the babies develop and feeding

these squirrels by hand. She plans to make the babies her pets. She now

knows lots about squirrels. These are examples of what my children are

doing in their spare time after school and the work is done.

When there was a study done some time ago looking at all the true geniuses

that have lived in America. The findings that came back showing what things

these brilliant people had in common are probably not what you would expect.

These are the 3 things that people like Einstein and Thomas Edison and

George Washington Carver, etc. had in common. (1) They had loving, caring,

supportive families-especially their mothers. (2) Limited time with peers of

their own age. (3) They grew up in an environment where they had the

freedom to experiment, investigate, and be creative.

The public school system as it exists now does not allow for any of these

three very important factors. All three of the above mention " geniuses "

were sent home from the public school system as unteachable, and they were

therefore home schooled at a time when no one homeschooled.

I am an X-teacher, and I would never want to have to send my children into

that environment. I am thankful it is so easy to homeschool in this

country.

Annette

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" cathy markowich " <cactus

Friday, May 04, 2001 7:49 AM

[herbal remedies] Re: Education. basics.

>

> I would love to get my children out of the school system and

> homeschool them. I think the school system here stinks. They are

> both very bright and my daughter is not being challenged enough. I

> never knew even where to begin and if we're even qualified or how to

> do this. We also felt they would be missing out on the social

> aspects. Any opinions on this? Is this too off topic?

>

> Cathy

>

> herbal remedies, " Ian Shillington N.D. "

> <Dr.IanShillington@G...> wrote:

> > Yer welcome hon.

> > Love,

> > Doc

> >

> > Ian " Doc " Shillington N.D.

> > 505-772-5889

> > Dr.IanShillington@G...

> > -

> > patricia seifert

> > herbal remedies

> > Thursday, May 03, 2001 7:24 PM

> > Re: [herbal remedies] Education. basics.

> >

> > Hi Doc, as for the State tests, he says they were " boring " ! He was

> > supposed to take 3 hours and he was home before 2 1/2. Mind you he

> rode

> > his bike there. He says the vocabulary and English was too easy.

> He has

> > been reading and doing High School vocabulary all year. The Math he

> said

> > was all basic, here again he is into advanced--High School and some

> > College (I don't teach him this, he has a 'brainy math teacher').

> > As for the 1895 test, he thought it was 'Cool'. I too think he

> will be

> > assigned to get the answers correct. This was very interesting to

> me as

> > well. Thanks again Doc, you are an inspiration. Patty

>

> Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following:

> 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire.

> 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural

remedy.

> 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and

to

> prescribe for your own health.

> We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long

as

> they behave themselves.

> Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any

person

> following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk.

> It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from

list members, you are agreeing to

> be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and

members free of any liability.

>

> Dr. Ian Shillington

> Doctor of Naturopathy

> Dr.IanShillington

>

May 6, 2001

Last night I saw a cartoon on the Disney channel that made me want to block

the channel. It was one of the dalmation cartoons and the main character

wanted to enter a game show. He had to have an owner go in with him at the

gate. His new alligator partner who promised not to eat HIM, ate two dogs

who were going into building with their owner. The alligator took one

collar and the dalmation said " I don't even want to THINK about the moral

implications of this " and took the other collar and went in.

The alligator was disqualified when he ate the tail of one of the other

contestants, and then later after the game was over, the alligator remarked

that the game show host tasted good.

On a Little Mermaids episode a boy fish remarked " I'm going to miss your

hand on my tail. "

I have heard that Disney is now owned and operated by some seedy characters

and now I have no doubt of it.

Kristine

May 8, 2001

I understand how you feel Paulissa, and I too had to endure physical abuse and bullying when going to school because I was "different". My father and family definitely belonged to the "good ole boy" establishment which probably helped me somewhat, but I still got picked on. The main point being made here is that the way "Empathy" is taught nowadays, it is actually creating "Columbine's", as the focus of the school is to be tolerant even of the bullys and the psychos as well. It's a great "in PR" name for a nefarious activity. The problem is that they do not teach how to care for others, they teach permissiveness while at the same time using drugs such as Ritalin and Prozac to keep the kids "calm".

Doc

Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington

I would venture to say that in light of Columbine and other recent school shootings and attempts, that it should be absolutely crystal clear why this training is necessary. I know that when I went to public school I endured 8 years of total bullshit b/c of the good old boys establishment that just recently adopted a policy to stop the same kind of crap-sexual harassment, bullying, physical abuse, etc. that I endured for 8 years-- so sorry, you can whine and moan all you want about having to teach empathy to kids but believe me, they will never suffer because they learned how to care for others.Paulissa,

May 8, 2001

It becomes a real Catch 22 or "Damned if you do, damned if you don't" kind of situation here. The "teachers" blame the parents and then procede to make them feel guilty if the school psych is not allowed to put the "wayward" child on drugs. I've heard of instances of where not only was the teacher given a kick-back from the school "medical" establishment for each kid put on Ritalin but where parents were actually threatened with having their kid expelled from the school if they didn't allow the drugging. You should read the symptoms for ADD or ADHD. I think every kid I know has those characteristics including myself at that age.

I made a post a couple of days ago which I think was eaten by my server and never made it to the list, having to do with observing a few (4) of the most recent shootings, Columbine included. Every single one of these kids was on or had recently been on psych drugs such as Ritalin and/or Prozac.

I don't think there's anything wrong with teaching "Morals" or better yet, "Ethics" in any school curriculum, but the problem is that our schools and society in general are too amoral and too unethical to be entrusted with this duty as the subjects themselves have been perverted within the last 50 years.

The bottom line is that the buck stops with the parent. Ultimately, we are responsible for how our children turn out regardless of what the Psychs and the government would have us believe. We can't just leave it up to a system which has proven to have failed time and again. I know Mary's children and she has home schooled them from the get go. 3 of the nicest, most productive kids I know.

If my kid was in a school and was getting beaten up every day, I'd sure as hell yank him outa there pronto.

Doc

Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington

Oh exactly!!! But since many parents don't teach these things in the home, it then falls to the teachers and though it isn't the teachers job per se, if they don't teach it, who will?? Some children will grow up never having had the experience of kind words, a gentle touch and feelings of compassion for another person.Paulissa,

May 8, 2001

In a message dated 5/8/01 4:41:14 AM, Dr.IanShillington writes:

>The problem is that

>

>they do not teach how to care for others, they teach permissiveness

>

>while at the same time using drugs such as Ritalin and Prozac to keep

>

>the kids " calm " .

Very true Doc and I find very disturbing that the establishment's answer to

nearly every " problem " is a drug. Drug our kids instead of disciplining them

or teaching them behavior modification.

Drug women for the period before the period, the period of the period and the

period after the period. It makes people less of a threat to deal with tho.

In my humble and yes, quite biased opinion I feel that United States is

creating a nation of junkies that the DEA turns a blind eye to while all the

while speaking double speak when it comes to medicinal drugs such as

medicinal marijuana to ease suffering of those with terminal illnesses.

Paulissa,

" Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we

are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness, that

frightens us. We say who am I to be successful, to fulfill my dreams, etc?

Who are you NOT to? You are the sun in your universe. Why do we have this

fear of being " powerful beyond measure " ?

\\\\\/////

( @ @ )

---oOOo---(_)---oOOo-----

May 11, 2001

Beautiful post Annette and very well done on the way you've raised your kids.

I especially loved the part about the 3 great men who never completed or were kicked out of their "formal" education. Many others fall into this same category including but not limited to Leonardo da Vinci, and Ben Franklin. George W. Campbell Jr. in the late 40's once did a quick survey at a party he was hosting of all his science fiction writers that were in his stable, and asked who had completed high school and / or college. Isaac Azimov was not there or he would have been the only one. All the rest, and we are talking the top writers of the time, were either college or high school drop outs. Interesting huh?

Love,

Doc

Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington

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Annette Fischer

herbal remedies

Saturday, May 05, 2001 11:39 PM

Re: [herbal remedies] Re: Education. basics.

Cathy,Regarding the social aspects of homeschooling I'd like to mention that ifyou really think about it, you will realize children learn their negativebehaviors from peers. That's where they learn to make fun of others and be"Clicky" or snobs or whatever. That's where they learn about shoplifting orcheating on tests. And that is where they are exposed to drugs andcigarettes. They learn how to treat others rightly from adults, especiallyby watching their parents. The less your children are around otherchildren, the less negative behavior they will be able to learn. Mychildren have been homeschooled all their academic lives yet they are quitesocial. Family members were always bringing the "social" thing up to us.But now that our oldest is 14 and they are seeing how they are "turning out"they have nothing but approval and support. Your interaction with yourchildren is what will teach them how to treat one another and if you aresocial they will be social.My children learn without knowing they are actually learning. As they aregetting older now they have developed interests on their own and have begundoing lots of reading trying to find out more. My son loves history. Hehas read and knows more about world history that anyone I have ever known.And he has probably read 1/4 of the material in our encyclopedias trying tofind out information. I actually have to force him to stop reading to getwork out of him. Writing is harder for him, but it wouldn't be any easierfor him if he were in the public school system. I know that he is doingmuch better than he would have in the system, but more importantly, he has aquest for knowledge and knows how to find it. That's one of the things hedoes in his spare time.My daughter is 10. She loves animals and nature. She has read lots aboutbirds recently and has a log of all the birds that come to our feeders, whattime of day they come, what birds eat what food, etc. She did this all onher own. If anything I have discouraged her from sitting there and watchingher birds. We live trapped squirrels this winter because they are causingso much damage to our roof and strawberry gardens. Anyway she kept some inrabbit cages and one of the females has babies now. Chasya feeds them andcares for them everyday. She is watching the babies develop and feedingthese squirrels by hand. She plans to make the babies her pets. She nowknows lots about squirrels. These are examples of what my children aredoing in their spare time after school and the work is done.When there was a study done some time ago looking at all the true geniusesthat have lived in America. The findings that came back showing what thingsthese brilliant people had in common are probably not what you would expect.These are the 3 things that people like Einstein and Thomas Edison andGeorge Washington Carver, etc. had in common. (1) They had loving, caring,supportive families-especially their mothers. (2) Limited time with peers oftheir own age. (3) They grew up in an environment where they had thefreedom to experiment, investigate, and be creative.The public school system as it exists now does not allow for any of thesethree very important factors. All three of the above mention "geniuses"were sent home from the public school system as unteachable, and they weretherefore home schooled at a time when no one homeschooled.I am an X-teacher, and I would never want to have to send my children intothat environment. I am thankful it is so easy to homeschool in thiscountry.Annette-"cathy markowich" <cactus<herbal remedies >Friday, May 04, 2001 7:49 AM[herbal remedies] Re: Education. basics.>> I would love to get my children out of the school system and> homeschool them. I think the school system here stinks. They are> both very bright and my daughter is not being challenged enough. I> never knew even where to begin and if we're even qualified or how to> do this. We also felt they would be missing out on the social> aspects. Any opinions on this? Is this too off topic?>> Cathy>>>> herbal remedies, "Ian Shillington N.D."> <Dr.IanShillington@G...> wrote:> > Yer welcome hon.> > Love,> > Doc> >> > Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.> > 505-772-5889> > Dr.IanShillington@G...> > -> > patricia seifert> > herbal remedies> > Thursday, May 03, 2001 7:24 PM> > Re: [herbal remedies] Education. basics.> >> >> > Hi Doc, as for the State tests, he says they were "boring"! He was> > supposed to take 3 hours and he was home before 2 1/2. Mind you he> rode> > his bike there. He says the vocabulary and English was too easy.> He has> > been reading and doing High School vocabulary all year. The Math he> said> > was all basic, here again he is into advanced--High School and some> > College (I don't teach him this, he has a 'brainy math teacher').> > As for the 1895 test, he thought it was 'Cool'. I too think he> will be> > assigned to get the answers correct. This was very interesting to> me as> > well. Thanks again Doc, you are an inspiration. Patty>>> Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following:> 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire.> 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any naturalremedy.> 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician andto> prescribe for your own health.> We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as longas> they behave themselves.> Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and anyperson> following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk.> It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products fromlist members, you are agreeing to> be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner andmembers free of any liability.>> Dr. Ian Shillington> Doctor of Naturopathy> Dr.IanShillington>

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