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Could someone please recommend the best up to date book(s) they

know of for someone who is interested in pursuing

vegetarian/veganism for purely health reasons? (I understand many

of them are preachy about environment, sins of the meat industry,

etc.- but I want one that mostly stays away from that and approaches

the subject well researched nutritionally and has plenty of

recipes/menus.) I am new on this subject.

Thank you

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Do a search on diets you should be able to find something there...

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Friday, April 20, 2001 5:33 PM

[herbal remedies] need vegetarian book recommendation

Could someone please recommend the best up to date book(s) they know of for someone who is interested in pursuing vegetarian/veganism for purely health reasons? (I understand many of them are preachy about environment, sins of the meat industry, etc.- but I want one that mostly stays away from that and approaches the subject well researched nutritionally and has plenty of recipes/menus.) I am new on this subject.Thank youmargill

Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

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My favorites: (good beginning books)

John Robbins: Diet for a New America

ANY Molly Katzen books i.e. Enchanted Broccoli Forest

Ecological Cooking

Laurel's Kitchen

Vegetarian Times Magazine or one of their books

Also, a book on TVP and/or tofu cooking is always good.

My favorites are Molly Katzen's from her Moosewood Cookbooks.

John Robbins has a video called Diet for a New America also.

It was an eye opening experience for me about 9 years ago.

Lynne

 

>Could someone please recommend the best up to date book(s) they

>know of for someone who is interested in pursuing

>vegetarian/veganism for purely health reasons?

> I am new on this subject.

>margill

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I've been enjoying "The Clueless Vegetarian: A Cookbook for the Aspiring

Vegetarian" by Evelyn Raab, published in 2000. It has some great

tasting yet simple recipes, and it discusses what things like tofu, tempeh,

seitan, and TVP are, as well as the categories of vegan, lacto-ovo, occassional,

etc. Not preachy at all. Also mentiones the nutritional needs

while pursuing any form of vegetarianism.

Good luck,

Julia

margill wrote:

Could someone please recommend the best up to

date book(s) they

know of for someone who is interested in pursuing

vegetarian/veganism for purely health reasons? (I understand

many

of them are preachy about environment, sins of the meat industry,

etc.- but I want one that mostly stays away from that and approaches

the subject well researched nutritionally and has plenty of

recipes/menus.) I am new on this subject.

Thank you

margill

 

 

Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following:

1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire.

2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any

natural remedy.

3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician

and to

prescribe for your own health.

We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here

as long as

they behave themselves.

Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and

any person

following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own

risk.

It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice

or products from list members, you are agreeing to

be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner

and members free of any liability.

Dr. Ian Shillington

Doctor of Naturopathy

Dr.IanShillington

 

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My favourite, most well used well dog eared book on

vego cooking is called Meals Without Meat by Alison

Holsts. Its very suitable as a transition for people

from a meat eating diet, down to earth and not

fanatical, but introducing tofu and tempheh and other

foods a little.

love

peela

 

 

 

 

 

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Hi Margill,

 

My new personal favorite is The American Vegetarian

Cookbook from the Fit for Life Kitchen by Marilyn

Diamond. I say this despite the fact that I have not

actually USED it yet. HA! I have many, many vegetarian

cookbooks and most of them aren't my

favorites....usually just a couple of recipes from

each one that I like. I have one that I like a whole

lot but half the book IS preachy, and I know you don't

want that (I myself wish this half continued to have

lots of recipes in it).

 

Anyway, this one says calls itself Vegetarian but

appears to actually be Vegan, which is what I

personally have been wanting and why I bought it. It

is loaded with recipes and has what I consider

helpful, rather than preachy information. It's also

not inexpensive at $28 FPT/$34 CAN; however, it's a

beautiful presentation and I think well worth it. Now

that I'm finally finished with this liver cleanse, I'm

looking forward to using some of the recipes.

 

What I recommend is that you go to a bookstore and

just sit on the floor and look through all of the ones

they have. You can still make mistakes, but at least

you know what you are getting.

 

Valerie

 

--- margill wrote:

> Could someone please recommend the best up to date

> book(s) they

> know of for someone who is interested in pursuing

> vegetarian/veganism for purely health reasons? (I

> understand many

> of them are preachy about environment, sins of the

> meat industry,

> etc.- but I want one that mostly stays away from

> that and approaches

> the subject well researched nutritionally and has

> plenty of

> recipes/menus.) I am new on this subject.

> Thank you

> margill

>

>

 

 

 

 

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Margill,

 

I second the vote on any of Marilyn Diamonds cookbooks and recipes.

I also own The American Vegetarian Cookbook. When I got it from the

library years ago, I didn't want to take it back and renewed it again and

again until I couldn't anymore. This is a sure sign of a winner for me.

We like her Happy "Chicken" Burgers on page 111 all vegan and also

the Goodwiches that are different fillings for whole wheat tortillas - yummy.

We find her Cucumber, Lime, Mint salad very refreshing, the Avocado, Jicama,

Grapefruit with its special dressing is great as is the Mushroom Fennel salad.

I'm getting hungry writing this.

 

My very, very favorite is an out of print cookbook called "Kathy Cooks Naturally".

Kathy was the hostess of a popular TV series called Kathy's Kitchen some

years back. For me it is different than any other cookbook and I almost

always refer to it first when ever I'm looking for something. Then I spend

as much time as I can reading this and reading that and learning things.

Usually I find what I want but if not I then go to TAVC. The thing I like

about both of these cookbooks is that it is obvious that the authors

have actually made the recipes time and time again.

 

A funny story. I once asked a fellow vendor at a Farmers Market about her

self published cookbooks and was shocked at what I discovered. My first

question was "What is your favorite recipe?" Her response was "Oh, I don't

cook. I eat out almost all the time." Keeping my composure, I then asked

"Well do you have a special recipe that was passed down in the family?"

She said "No. I just collect recipes that sound good from the internet and

type them up and put them in the books" Still digging, I said "Well you

must have a favorite one and she told me there was one where you fry

hamburger, pour Campbell's soup over it and I forget the rest as my

stomach was turning at this point. She then said, "It sounds so good I

think I'll get the ingredients and make some.

 

Valorie

 

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Saturday, April 21, 2001 7:04 AM

[herbal remedies] Re: need vegetarian book recommendation

Hi Margill,My new personal favorite is The American VegetarianCookbook from the Fit for Life Kitchen by MarilynDiamond. I say this despite the fact that I have notactually USED it yet. HA! I have many, many vegetariancookbooks and most of them aren't myfavorites....usually just a couple of recipes fromeach one that I like. I have one that I like a wholelot but half the book IS preachy, and I know you don'twant that (I myself wish this half continued to havelots of recipes in it).Anyway, this one says calls itself Vegetarian butappears to actually be Vegan, which is what Ipersonally have been wanting and why I bought it. Itis loaded with recipes and has what I considerhelpful, rather than preachy information. It's alsonot inexpensive at $28 FPT/$34 CAN; however, it's abeautiful presentation and I think well worth it. Nowthat I'm finally finished with this liver cleanse, I'mlooking forward to using some of the recipes.What I recommend is that you go to a bookstore andjust sit on the floor and look through all of the onesthey have. You can still make mistakes, but at leastyou know what you are getting.Valerie--- margill wrote:> Could someone please recommend the best up to date> book(s) they > know of for someone who is interested in pursuing > vegetarian/veganism for purely health reasons? (I> understand many > of them are preachy about environment, sins of the> meat industry, > etc.- but I want one that mostly stays away from> that and approaches > the subject well researched nutritionally and has> plenty of > recipes/menus.) I am new on this subject.> Thank you> margill> > Auctions - buy the things you want at great priceshttp://auctions./Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

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I don't buy cookbooks because the less cooked food one eats, the better. If

anyone is going to Las Vegas, NV let me reccomend a restaurant called THE

RAW TRUTH where all the prepared food is raw and delicious. I don't know if

he has a book out yet or not, but the owner is very creative. Its located

on East Flamingo. I don't go to as much trouble as the restaurant. I

usually just cut it up and consume with gusto. Fruits and vegetables have

all the protein one needs. Research done at Brigham Young University has

shown (sorry no " link " --read it some time back) that one need not consume

any particular amino acids in any particular combination. The REAL " trick "

is getting enough vitamins and minerals, as our soil is depleted, and

everytime one consumes processed foods the body gets a BIG negative balance

in vitamins, particularly of B vits and essential fatty acids. Processed

foods include tofu and other soy products-YUCK.

Love,

Kristine

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The Halls,

 

I whole heartedly agree with Kristine on the raw foods. The Kathy Cooks Naturally has a lot of raw food recipes in it as does Marily Diamond's Vegetarian cook book. One that is all raw and that I like a lot is Dining in the Raw.

 

Valorie

 

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Wednesday, April 25, 2001 12:20 PM

Re: [herbal remedies] Re: need vegetarian book recommendation

I don't buy cookbooks because the less cooked food one eats, the better. Ifanyone is going to Las Vegas, NV let me reccomend a restaurant called THERAW TRUTH where all the prepared food is raw and delicious. I don't know ifhe has a book out yet or not, but the owner is very creative. Its locatedon East Flamingo. I don't go to as much trouble as the restaurant. Iusually just cut it up and consume with gusto. Fruits and vegetables haveall the protein one needs. Research done at Brigham Young University hasshown (sorry no "link"--read it some time back) that one need not consumeany particular amino acids in any particular combination. The REAL "trick"is getting enough vitamins and minerals, as our soil is depleted, andeverytime one consumes processed foods the body gets a BIG negative balancein vitamins, particularly of B vits and essential fatty acids. Processedfoods include tofu and other soy products-YUCK.Love,KristineFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

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Thanks for the data Kristine and your comment on vitamin and mineral depletion is spot on. Rutgers University did a study a couple of years ago as they were suspicious that the hype in regards Organic v/s Commercial was all poppycock. Even they were surprised with the results. The most dramatic was in the IRON content of the two tomatos tested. The Commercial had only 1 part per million whereas the Organic tomatos had 1,938 parts per million. Makes you kinda sick (or it does if you eat the Commercially grown).

 

I've attached the study results for everyone's perusal in Excel format.

 

Love,

 

Doc

 

PS. The meat industry is much worse by far with its rampant use of hormones, and antibiotics and other weight builders.

 

Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington

I don't buy cookbooks because the less cooked food one eats, the better. Ifanyone is going to Las Vegas, NV let me reccomend a restaurant called THERAW TRUTH where all the prepared food is raw and delicious. I don't know ifhe has a book out yet or not, but the owner is very creative. Its locatedon East Flamingo. I don't go to as much trouble as the restaurant. Iusually just cut it up and consume with gusto. Fruits and vegetables haveall the protein one needs. Research done at Brigham Young University hasshown (sorry no "link"--read it some time back) that one need not consumeany particular amino acids in any particular combination. The REAL "trick"is getting enough vitamins and minerals, as our soil is depleted, andeverytime one consumes processed foods the body gets a BIG negative balancein vitamins, particularly of B vits and essential fatty acids. Processedfoods include tofu and other soy products-YUCK.Love,Kristine

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why would spraying tomatoes with chemicals cause them

to produce less iron?

 

LA

 

--- " Ian Shillington N.D. "

<Dr.IanShillington wrote:

> Thanks for the data Kristine and your comment on

> vitamin and mineral

> depletion is spot on. Rutgers University did a

> study a couple of years

> ago as they were suspicious that the hype in regards

> Organic v/s

> Commercial was all poppycock. Even they were

> surprised with the

> results. The most dramatic was in the IRON content

> of the two tomatos

> tested. The Commercial had only 1 part per million

> whereas the Organic

> tomatos had 1,938 parts per million. Makes you

> kinda sick (or it does

> if you eat the Commercially grown).

>

> I've attached the study results for everyone's

> perusal in Excel format.

>

> Love,

>

> Doc

>

> PS. The meat industry is much worse by far with its

> rampant use of

> hormones, and antibiotics and other weight builders.

>

> Ian " Doc " Shillington N.D.

> 505-772-5889

> Dr.IanShillington

> I don't buy cookbooks because the less cooked food

> one eats, the

> better. If

> anyone is going to Las Vegas, NV let me reccomend

> a restaurant called

> THE

> RAW TRUTH where all the prepared food is raw and

> delicious. I don't

> know if

> he has a book out yet or not, but the owner is

> very creative. Its

> located

> on East Flamingo. I don't go to as much trouble

> as the restaurant. I

> usually just cut it up and consume with gusto.

> Fruits and vegetables

> have

> all the protein one needs. Research done at

> Brigham Young University

> has

> shown (sorry no " link " --read it some time back)

> that one need not

> consume

> any particular amino acids in any particular

> combination. The REAL

> " trick "

> is getting enough vitamins and minerals, as our

> soil is depleted, and

> everytime one consumes processed foods the body

> gets a BIG negative

> balance

> in vitamins, particularly of B vits and essential

> fatty acids.

> Processed

> foods include tofu and other soy products-YUCK.

> Love,

> Kristine

>

 

> ATTACHMENT part 2 application/octet-stream

name=Mineral Content in Organic Vegetables.xls

 

 

 

 

 

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It's not just the spraying. It's the growing process. Organic farmers have to use natural ferilizers, mulch, compost etc. when growing organically. The commercially grown crops use only those ferilizers which will make the plant grow big. Because the plants are somewhat sickly (but they look big and beautiful) they then need the chemicals to protect them from the bugs and other critters. Because the nutrients are in the soil, the organic crop is much higher in nutrient content whereas the commercially grown are produced in nutrient and mineral depleted soils.

 

Doc

 

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why would spraying tomatoes with chemicals cause themto produce less iron? LA

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