PMS Warning - The Latest in Psychiatric Stupidity

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In a message dated 4/18/01 9:15:57 PM, elseaclan writes:

 

>It'd be funny if I didn't already know some

>women who are taking Prozac for PMS. Janet

 

Yeppers, drug us for the period before the period, the period of the period

and the period after the period (menopause).....course drugged women aren't

" itchy " women so go figure....I have often wondered about the children on

Ritalin and what kind of drug abusers they will be....it seems to me that the

drug makers are creating a society that abuses or is convinced they need to

be drug nearly since birth!!!! But yet the allopaths tell us that it is in

the patient's best interest....what kind of smoke are they blowing??

 

Sorry Ian, my cynicism is showing but these are concerns that I had even

before deciding to become a Naturopath.

 

Paulissa,

 

....So plant your garden and decorate your own soul, instead of waiting for

someone to bring you flowers.

And you learn that you really can endure...

That you really are strong, And you really do have worth. "

-Veronica A. Shoffstall " Comes The Dawn "

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Dear All,

Seems as if Eli Lilly is at it again. Anything for a quick buck at the expense of good health for the American public. Sheesh! What a con, when these things can be handled so easily by using all natural herbal remedies in conjunction with some healthful dietary changes.

 

Love,

 

Doc

 

PS. Don't be fooled by Premarin either. There is an apparency that it works, but it has been known to facilitate Cancer. Sorry to be so blunt here but did you know that Premarin is nothing more than pregnant, mare (female horse) piss.

Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington

Prozac for PMS (PMDD)?

 

Pharmaceutical giant Eli Lilly is promoting Sarafem as a miracle pill for women suffering from PMDD, a 'mental disorder' not yet proved to exist. What's more, Eli Lilly admits that Sarafem has the same active ingredient as Prozac, complete with the same dangerous side effects.

This "mental disorder" - which the American Psychiatric Association (APA) has not yet accepted, but which is listed in the appendix of the APA's Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-IV) - is called premenstrual dysphoric disorder, or PMDD.

It's a new-and-improved version of premenstrual syndrome (PMS), which also has not made it to the hit parade of the official APA list of mental illnesses. The fact that PMDD is listed in the diagnostic manual's appendix reflects the APA's desire for accepting it as a full-fledged mental disorder.

According to the DSM-IV and the FDA, a woman must experience five or more symptoms before the diagnosis can be made.

The unofficial mental disorder is said to be characterized by the following symptoms:

 

 

 

 

 

Markedly depressed mood

Marked anxiety

Marked affectivity

Decreased interest in activities

Feeling sad, hopeless or self-deprecating

Feeling tense, anxious or "on edge"

Persistent irritability, anger and increased interpersonal conflicts

Feeling fatigued, lethargic or lacking in energy

Marked changes in appetite

A subjective feeling of being overwhelmed or out of control

Physical symptoms such as breast tenderness, swelling or bloating.

Eli Lilly and Co., the Indianapolis-based pharmaceutical company that makes Sarafem, has been marketing the "new" treatment with such gusto that there are jokes about the company exhibiting obsessive-compulsive disorder. It seems there isn't a magazine to be picked up or a channel to be surfed that isn't running a Sarafem advertisement.

These ads show women expressing many things. One TV spot depicts a woman trying to button her slacks and looking angry and agitated. Another scene shows a woman snapping at her husband, "Just leave me alone," while still another involves a woman slumped on the couch sobbing. Then there is the slogan: "Sarafem - More like the woman you are."

Lilly reports in its ads that now, "Doctors can treat PMDD with Sarafem - the first and only prescription medication for PMDD." The ad further states that, "Sarafem contains fluoxetine hydrochloride, the same active ingredient found in Prozac."

Additionally, Sarafem and Prozac (fluoxetine hydrochloride) both are a fluorine-containing drug, which would thus further elevate fluorine exposure from sources like drinking water, toothpaste, etc.

Sometimes, women experience what they assume is PMS. However, occasionally it soon turns out that they are actually pregnant and so their period never comes. By recommending widespread use for PMS, there will undoubtedly be a percentage of women who are unknowingly exposing their very young unborn babies to these drugs, during a period where growth and development is going on at an enormous rate. This is scary!

The management of PMS certainly includes diet and exercise, but it also involves optimizing the female hormones naturally. This is done by balancing the hormones using all natural biochemical (herbal) remedies where the body itself will correct the imbalances found when it has the tools it needs to accomplish this.

Love,

Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.

Dr.IanShillington

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If I didn't know better ;o) I'd think the gov't was trying to make us

all a drugged society so we wouldn't care what was going on " on the

hill " . Hummmmmmmmm, if I didn't know better.... Mental disorder....

hmmmmmmmmm.......... It'd be funny if I didn't already know some

women who are taking Prozac for PMS. Janet

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Dr.IanShillington writes:

> Sheesh! What a con, when these things can be handled so easily by using

all natural herbal remedies

 

Not to mention PMDD is nothing more than plain ol PMS. They've invented a

" new " disease just to sell drugs. (PROZAC for PMS!!!! Please!) I feel sorry

for all the uninformed women who blindly go to their doctors thinking they

have this *disease* and end up spaced out on prozac

Sheesh is right!

Dena

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Paulissa, Wasn't there a book about that written in the 50's? Was it

1984 by George Orwell? I don't remember. It really is frightening!

There is no doubt there is a rise in mental illness, but I often

wonder at the cause. At least my allopathic gyn is sympathetic to

herbal therapy. He did a hormone check before my surgery and told me

he let me know the results when I go back (in May). It told him,

" Doc, I have to tell you now, I'm not taking horse pee. " He laughed

and said, " ok, my dear, we'll go herbal " . That's the kind of

allopathics we could all work with! What a world we live in....

Blessings, Janet

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elseaclan wrote:

hormone check before my surgery and told me

he let me know the results when I go back (in May). It told

him,

"Doc, I have to tell you now, I'm not taking horse pee."

You are fortunate to have an MD like this. My mother

inlaw has been taking another form of Premarin (also from mare's urine)

for years. I explained what it was made from and she gagged.

I told her to go back to her gyn (a woman) and ask her if this was, indeed,

correct. My mother inlaw had to hear it from the "horse's mouth"

so to speak. Well, her gyn confirmed the ingredients and then quickly

said, "But you've been taking this for years now....would you like to switch

to a synthetic version of it?" After ALL my talk about herbal helps,

my mother inlaw switched. Argh!!! My older sister is

another case in point as to how difficult it can be to illuminate a person's

mind to other alternatives. She's been taking Premarin for

about 15 years or more! You should see how she looks today.

To me, she looks like a wizen old woman. She now has multiple health

complaints, and these are given MORE allopathic aids! Argh

again!!! She won't listen to me either. She's

afraid to stop taking all this junk and start on herbs. I have

met with better success from female friends. You should hear

how pleased and happy they are with herbs.

Gogi

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Tell me about it. It's past "Sad". It's actually criminal.

Doc

 

Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington

 

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elseaclan

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Wednesday, April 18, 2001 7:58 PM

[herbal remedies] Re: PMS Warning - The Latest in Psychiatric Stupidity

If I didn't know better ;o) I'd think the gov't was trying to make usall a drugged society so we wouldn't care what was going on "on thehill". Hummmmmmmmm, if I didn't know better.... Mental disorder....hmmmmmmmmm.......... It'd be funny if I didn't already know somewomen who are taking Prozac for PMS. Janet

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Don't worry about the cynicism as I think you've expressed the sentiments of all of us.

 

Doc

 

Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington

Yeppers, drug us for the period before the period, the period of the period and the period after the period (menopause).....course drugged women aren't "itchy" women so go figure....I have often wondered about the children on Ritalin and what kind of drug abusers they will be....it seems to me that the drug makers are creating a society that abuses or is convinced they need to be drug nearly since birth!!!! But yet the allopaths tell us that it is in the patient's best interest....what kind of smoke are they blowing??Sorry Ian, my cynicism is showing but these are concerns that I had even before deciding to become a Naturopath. Paulissa,

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herbal remedies, " Ian Shillington N.D. "

<Dr.IanShillington@G...> wrote:

> Tell me about it. It's past " Sad " . It's actually criminal.

> Doc

>

> Very politely said Doc.

 

 

>

> If I didn't know better ;o) I'd think the gov't was trying to

make us

> all a drugged society so we wouldn't care what was going on " on

the

>

herbal remedies, " Ian Shillington N.D. "

<Dr.IanShillington@G...> wrote:

> Tell me about it. It's past " Sad " . It's actually criminal.

> Doc

>

>

> If I didn't know better ;o) I'd think the gov't was trying to

make us

> all a drugged society

 

Agreed!!!!

 

My sister was prescibed Prozak for a uterine cyst by a FEMALE

genocologist. Now for a male to prescribe Prozak for this condition

is a little more understandable than a woman, (please no offense

intended), although still outgragous.

She then went in for a sinus infection, and they also prescibed

Prozak.

She weighed approximately 92 pounds and between the two " physicians "

she was taking 20 miligrams of this crap.

She lasted a week and a half on it before blowing her head off 7

months ago.

I feel " their " means to control us by being so sick and tired

and " addiction " is done through sugar amoung a few other goodies.

Prozak and the like, in my slightly educated opinion, is in order to

control on a much deeper level, than us giving a hoot about our

surroundings and what is taking place in them!

More like another " population " control method.

They will and do reap dabbeling in this, trouble is they have no idea

what they are reaping.........

We have an entire city here that is referred to as " Happy Valley " and

I'll give you three guesses why.

"

 

Many blessings to all,

Yvonne

 

Did anybody here know that sucrose, table sugar is filtered through

dead animals bones?

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Dear Yvonne,

 

Of course you've hit the nail on the head with your observations and I also agree with your conclusions.

 

My sincerest condolences in regards your sister, and I can only say that we must continue to fight psychiatry and its barbaric inhumane practices by exposing their perfidies so this kind of thing will eventually become a thing of the past.

 

Love,

 

Doc

 

Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington

 

Agreed!!!!My sister was prescibed Prozak for a uterine cyst by a FEMALE genocologist. Now for a male to prescribe Prozak for this condition is a little more understandable than a woman, (please no offense intended), although still outgragous. She then went in for a sinus infection, and they also prescibed Prozak. She weighed approximately 92 pounds and between the two "physicians" she was taking 20 miligrams of this crap.

She lasted a week and a half on it before blowing her head off 7 months ago.

I feel "their" means to control us by being so sick and tired and "addiction" is done through sugar amoung a few other goodies.Prozak and the like, in my slightly educated opinion, is in order to control on a much deeper level, than us giving a hoot about our surroundings and what is taking place in them! More like another "population" control method. They will and do reap dabbeling in this, trouble is they have no idea what they are reaping.........We have an entire city here that is referred to as "Happy Valley" and I'll give you three guesses why."Many blessings to all,Yvonne Did anybody here know that sucrose, table sugar is filtered through dead animals bones?

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You are so welcome.

 

The Psycho babble you mentioned has been going on for over 80 years, but at least your family recognizes that the psychs and their drugs were the cause. Many people don't twig even after an event like you and your family just experienced.

 

Doc Schulze once said that Doctors were the major cause of death in the US today. I think, that if you were to lump them in with Psychiatrists, the FDA, the AMA, and the Pharmaceuticals you'd have all the culprits in one bag and a more accurate statement )

 

Love,

 

Doc

 

Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington

Doc, Thank you so very much for your reply, you have no idea how welcomed it was.The other half of the tragedy is that 1/2 of my family have very recently opted for some physco babble because the shock of her death is wearing off and we are all having to struggle with the reality of it all.They at least attribute her death to the Prozak, as there would be no other explaination for a more than amply beautiful, vibrant woman, who was the life of the party, would do this to herself the day before her precious daughters birthday.So when "babblers" advised her husband and daughter to take prozak themselves to help them "cope" they declined.The remaining step siblings in "couseling", well..... their mother was prescibed prozak three times and all THREE times attempted suicide, so I believe they know better too.And yes the word must get out. I spoke to a medical "expert" and voiced my opinion on prozak and her reply was, "Well, it does help alot of people".If you call death helping, then I guess it does.Blessings to All,Yvonneherbal remedies, "Ian Shillington N.D." <Dr.IanShillington@G...> wrote:> Dear Yvonne,> > Of course you've hit the nail on the head with your observations and I> also agree with your conclusions.> > My sincerest condolences in regards your sister, and I can only say that> we must continue to fight psychiatry and its barbaric inhumane practices> by exposing their perfidies so this kind of thing will eventually become> a thing of the past.> > Love,> > Doc> > Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.> 505-772-5889> Dr.IanShillington@G...> Agreed!!!!> > My sister was prescibed Prozak for a uterine cyst by a FEMALE> genocologist. Now for a male to prescribe Prozak for this condition is a> little more understandable than a woman, (please no offense intended),> although still outgragous. She then went in for a sinus infection, and> they also prescibed Prozak. She weighed approximately 92 pounds and> between the two "physicians" she was taking 20 miligrams of this crap.> > She lasted a week and a half on it before blowing her head off 7> months ago.> > I feel "their" means to control us by being so sick and tired and> "addiction" is done through sugar amoung a few other goodies.Prozak and> the like, in my slightly educated opinion, is in order to control on a> much deeper level, than us giving a hoot about our surroundings and what> is taking place in them! More like another "population" control method.> They will and do reap dabbeling in this, trouble is they have no idea> what they are reaping.........> We have an entire city here that is referred to as "Happy Valley" and> I'll give you three guesses why.> "> > Many blessings to all,> Yvonne

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Doc,

In agreement, 199%.........and have most definately decieved all the

nations. Staying one step ahead of them is a very tough thing to do.

6 years ago I thought their next phase in would be massive vaccines,

I was wrong. Sigh..........

Blessings to you and your family,

Yvonne

 

 

You must be very blessed for doing this.......

 

 

 

 

 

herbal remedies, " Ian Shillington N.D. "

<Dr.IanShillington@G...> wrote:

> You are so welcome.

>

> The Psycho babble you mentioned has been going on for over 80

years, but

> at least your family recognizes that the psychs and their drugs

were the

> cause. Many people don't twig even after an event like you and your

> family just experienced.

>

> Doc Schulze once said that Doctors were the major cause of death in

the

> US today. I think, that if you were to lump them in with

Psychiatrists,

> the FDA, the AMA, and the Pharmaceuticals you'd have all the

culprits in

> one bag and a more accurate statement )

>

> Love,

>

> Doc

>

> Ian " Doc " Shillington N.D.

> 505-772-5889

> Dr.IanShillington@G...

> Doc, Thank you so very much for your reply, you have no idea how

> welcomed

> it was.

> The other half of the tragedy is that 1/2 of my family have very

> recently opted for some physco babble because the shock of her

death

> is wearing off and we are all having to struggle with the reality

of

> it all.

> They at least attribute her death to the Prozak, as there would

be no

> other explaination for a more than amply beautiful, vibrant woman,

> who was the life of the party, would do this to herself the day

> before her precious daughters birthday.

> So when " babblers " advised her husband and daughter to take prozak

> themselves to help them " cope " they declined.

> The remaining step siblings in " couseling " , well..... their mother

> was prescibed prozak three times and all THREE times attempted

> suicide, so I believe they know better too.

> And yes the word must get out.

> I spoke to a medical " expert " and voiced my opinion on prozak and

her

> reply was, " Well, it does help alot of people " .

> If you call death helping, then I guess it does.

>

> Blessings to All,

> Yvonne

>

>

>

>

> herbal remedies, " Ian Shillington N.D. "

> <Dr.IanShillington@G...> wrote:

> > Dear Yvonne,

> >

> > Of course you've hit the nail on the head with your observations

> and I

> > also agree with your conclusions.

> >

> > My sincerest condolences in regards your sister, and I can only

say

> that

> > we must continue to fight psychiatry and its barbaric inhumane

> practices

> > by exposing their perfidies so this kind of thing will

eventually

> become

> > a thing of the past.

> >

> > Love,

> >

> > Doc

> >

> > Ian " Doc " Shillington N.D.

> > 505-772-5889

> > Dr.IanShillington@G...

> > Agreed!!!!

> >

> > My sister was prescibed Prozak for a uterine cyst by a FEMALE

> > genocologist. Now for a male to prescribe Prozak for this

condition

> is a

> > little more understandable than a woman, (please no offense

> intended),

> > although still outgragous. She then went in for a sinus

infection,

> and

> > they also prescibed Prozak. She weighed approximately 92

pounds and

> > between the two " physicians " she was taking 20 miligrams of this

> crap.

> >

> > She lasted a week and a half on it before blowing her head

off 7

> > months ago.

> >

> > I feel " their " means to control us by being so sick and tired

and

> > " addiction " is done through sugar amoung a few other

goodies.Prozak

> and

> > the like, in my slightly educated opinion, is in order to

control

> on a

> > much deeper level, than us giving a hoot about our surroundings

and

> what

> > is taking place in them! More like another " population " control

> method.

> > They will and do reap dabbeling in this, trouble is they have no

> idea

> > what they are reaping.........

> > We have an entire city here that is referred to as " Happy

Valley "

> and

> > I'll give you three guesses why.

> > "

> >

> > Many blessings to all,

> > Yvonne

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herbal remedies, " Ian Shillington N.D. "

<Dr.IanShillington@G...> wrote:

> You are so welcome.

>

> The Psycho babble you mentioned has been going on for over 80

years, but

> at least your family recognizes that the psychs and their drugs

were the

> cause. Many people don't twig even after an event like you and your

> family just experienced.

>

> Doc Schulze once said that Doctors were the major cause of death in

the

> US today. I think, that if you were to lump them in with

Psychiatrists,

> the FDA, the AMA, and the Pharmaceuticals you'd have all the

culprits in

> one bag and a more accurate statement )

>

> Love,

>

> Doc

>

> Ian " Doc " Shillington N.D.

> 505-772-5889

> Dr.IanShillington@G...

> Doc, Thank you so very much for your reply, you have no idea how

> welcomed

> it was.

> The other half of the tragedy is that 1/2 of my family have very

> recently opted for some physco babble because the shock of her

death

> is wearing off and we are all having to struggle with the reality

of

> it all.

> They at least attribute her death to the Prozak, as there would

be no

> other explaination for a more than amply beautiful, vibrant woman,

> who was the life of the party, would do this to herself the day

> before her precious daughters birthday.

> So when " babblers " advised her husband and daughter to take prozak

> themselves to help them " cope " they declined.

> The remaining step siblings in " couseling " , well..... their mother

> was prescibed prozak three times and all THREE times attempted

> suicide, so I believe they know better too.

> And yes the word must get out.

> I spoke to a medical " expert " and voiced my opinion on prozak and

her

> reply was, " Well, it does help alot of people " .

> If you call death helping, then I guess it does.

>

> Blessings to All,

> Yvonne

>

>

>

>

> herbal remedies, " Ian Shillington N.D. "

> <Dr.IanShillington@G...> wrote:

> > Dear Yvonne,

> >

> > Of course you've hit the nail on the head with your observations

> and I

> > also agree with your conclusions.

> >

> > My sincerest condolences in regards your sister, and I can only

say

> that

> > we must continue to fight psychiatry and its barbaric inhumane

> practices

> > by exposing their perfidies so this kind of thing will

eventually

> become

> > a thing of the past.

> >

> > Love,

> >

> > Doc

> >

> > Ian " Doc " Shillington N.D.

> > 505-772-5889

> > Dr.IanShillington@G...

> > Agreed!!!!

> >

> > My sister was prescibed Prozak for a uterine cyst by a FEMALE

> > genocologist. Now for a male to prescribe Prozak for this

condition

> is a

> > little more understandable than a woman, (please no offense

> intended),

> > although still outgragous. She then went in for a sinus

infection,

> and

> > they also prescibed Prozak. She weighed approximately 92

pounds and

> > between the two " physicians " she was taking 20 miligrams of this

> crap.

> >

> > She lasted a week and a half on it before blowing her head

off 7

> > months ago.

> >

> > I feel " their " means to control us by being so sick and tired

and

> > " addiction " is done through sugar amoung a few other

goodies.Prozak

> and

> > the like, in my slightly educated opinion, is in order to

control

> on a

> > much deeper level, than us giving a hoot about our surroundings

and

> what

> > is taking place in them! More like another " population " control

> method.

> > They will and do reap dabbeling in this, trouble is they have no

> idea

> > what they are reaping.........

> > We have an entire city here that is referred to as " Happy

Valley "

> and

> > I'll give you three guesses why.

> > "

> >

> > Many blessings to all,

> > Yvonne