Guest guest Posted February 8, 2001 Report Share Posted February 8, 2001 Dear LA, Renee is looking for a site where you can buy unbleached muslim jelly bags. You just need some unbleached organic cloth. If you have an old cotton sheet, youcould use that..........Love Penny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2001 Report Share Posted February 8, 2001 I have another question, if anyone can answer it... when I make this heart formula, do I put the cayenne in the blender with the rest of the ingredients, or add it at the end before I take it? I suppose all at the same time but I can't see how it would strain correctly. Also, it says 'Hawthorne Berry - leaf and flower'. Does that mean not the berries themselves? I know they are hard to tincture. If these questions are not appropriate for this list, please let me know if there is another one for learning to tincture. Thanks, LA > LA wrote: > > > I am comparing Strauss's and Shultze's Heart > Formulas, > > trying to decide which to buy or make. They are > quite > > expensive, but if I do it myself, I'm not sure how > > much to put in the Strauss formula for each of > these > > ingredients. Also, do I extract each one > seperately > > and then mix the liquid all together, or is it > okay to > > do them all at one time? > > > > Wondering why Bilberry would be in the mix and > what > > habanero is. Any input anyone can give me about > > making a formula would be appreciated. > > > > LA > > > > following are the ingredients (in order > > of proportion) of the Strauss Heart Drops, > although > > this listing has not been verified by Jim Strauss. > > > > Fruit Alcohol > > Garlic Oil > > Cayenne > > Hawthorn Berry (leaf and flower) > > Ginger Root > > Bilberry > > Motherwort Flower > > Cactus Grandiflorus Flower > > Red > > Clover Blossom > > Habanero > > Mistletoe > > > > here is Dr. Schultze's Heart Formula that you can > > make at home with Vodka etc. > > > > 8 Parts Hawthorne Berry > > 1 Part Red Clover Blossom > > 1 Part Cactus Grandiflorus Stem and Flower > > 1 Part Motherwort Herb > > 1 Part Garlic Bulb > > 1 Part Jamaican Ginger Root > > .5 Part Hottest Cayenne Pepper > > Blended all in a base of 50% Alcohol and 50% > distilled water. > > > > > > > Get personalized email addresses from Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2001 Report Share Posted February 8, 2001 LA wrote: Also, it says 'Hawthorne Berry - leaf and > flower'. Does that mean not the berries themselves? > I know they are hard to tincture. If these questions > are not appropriate for this list, please let me know > if there is another one for learning to tincture. I tincture dried hawthorn berries ground up (Richo Cech of Horizon Herbs says fresh berries don't tincture well so I decided to follow his directions) and also a leaf and flower tincture and mix them (I usually make separate tinctures and mix them for certain formulas). I was told using the three parts of hawthorn was the best way to use hawthorn which is what I did last fall. I am going to add it to a different heart formula that is listed in Herb Pharm's booklet on tincture formulas. Which formula are you making?.......................Joan ************************* joanr My Country Garden http://mycountrygarden.net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2001 Report Share Posted February 8, 2001 Joan, I'm not sure which of the two formulas I'm going to use. Can you tell me why you decided on this 3rd recipe? (and what's in it) Also, why do you tincture the berries separate from the leaf and flower? I have Richo Cech's book, Making Plant Medicine. It looks good. I suppose Horizon Herbs has a website but I haven't seen it. I'm thinking of maybe buying Strauss's Heart Drops until I know what I'm doing but they are so expensive! LA >> I tincture dried hawthorn berries ground up (Richo Cech of Horizon Herbs says fresh berries don't tincture well so I decided to follow his directions) and also a leaf and flower tincture and mix them (I usually make separate tinctures and mix them for certain formulas). I was told using the three parts of hawthorn was the best way to use hawthorn which is what I did last fall. I am going to add it to a different heart formula that is listed in Herb Pharm's booklet on tincture formulas. Which formula are you making?.......................Joan<< Get personalized email addresses from Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2001 Report Share Posted February 8, 2001 LA wrote: > I'm not sure which of the two formulas I'm going to > use. Can you tell me why you decided on this 3rd > recipe? (and what's in it) It is from the Ed Smith, (Herb Pharm's booklet) Therapeutic Herb Manual. Combine tinctures of: Hawthorn Berry, Leaf & Berry 35% Cactus Flower and Stem (Selenicereus grandiflorus) 30% Motherwort Leaf and Flower 25% Ginger Rhizome 10% Three times a day take 30-40 drops in water. Take the last dose just before bedtime. I picked this one because.......it only has four ingredients for one reason and I grow 3 of them myself although I have never harvested my own ginger root yet....and cactus I bought tincture from a herbalist friend real cheap. Schultze's has the same ingredients plus more so looks good too and Strauss's have even more ingredients but no percentages. I use some of these other herbs in teas and other formulas so will be leaving them out of a heart formula. More just personal reasons than anything else. > Also, why do you tincture he berries separate from the leaf and flower? I > have Richo Cech's book, Making Plant Medicine. It looks good. I don't follow the alcohol percentages in that book. There are many many different directions on making tinctures so I finally just asked my herbalist friend and got the book he recommended and used his alcohol percentages before I went over the edge with conflicting information <g>.... I tincture all herbs separately just because I decided to do it that way....and I can experiment with different percentages of tinctures in a formula. Some of the formulas I am making have some of the same herbs in them too. With the hawthorn, the berries I picked from my own trees took a long time to dry so I did the leaves and flowers first. Again just personal reasons more than anything else. > I suppose Horizon Herbs has a website but I > haven't seen it. http://www.budget.net/~herbseed/Welcome.htm > I'm thinking of maybe buying Strauss's Heart Drops > until I know what I'm doing but they are so expensive! If you can buy *good* quality tinctures and combine them, maybe that would be cheaper than Strauss's Heart Drops?? It looks like it would be very hard to figure out the percentages of each herb tincture in that formula though although the other heart formulas would be easy to do that way. I just started in 2000 to make my own tinctures and take them and I *finally* realized that there are many ways of making good quality tinctures, many different formulas, and many successful ways of using herbal remedies.....Joan ************************* joanr My Country Garden http://mycountrygarden.net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2001 Report Share Posted February 9, 2001 --- Joan Russell <joanr wrote: > Hawthorn Berry, Leaf & Berry 35% > Cactus Flower and Stem (Selenicereus grandiflorus) > 30% > Motherwort Leaf and Flower 25% > Ginger Rhizome 10% > Three times a day take 30-40 drops in water. Take > the last dose just > before bedtime. If I wanted to take much fewer drops, is it possible to make the tincture very strong so I'd only need a few drops? I don't want the alcohol. I heard glycerine can be used, but I don't know where to buy it and I'm not sure how long the tincture would last. > If you can buy *good* quality tinctures and combine > them, maybe that > would be cheaper than Strauss's Heart Drops?? It > looks like it would > be very hard to figure out the percentages of each > herb tincture in that > formula though although the other heart formulas > would be easy to do > that way. That is a great idea. What would constitute *good* quality? Do you mean from the organic health food store, or from a person who's made it themselves? LA Get personalized email addresses from Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2001 Report Share Posted February 9, 2001 LA wrote: > > If I wanted to take much fewer drops, is it possible > to make the tincture very strong so I'd only need a > few drops? I don't want the alcohol. I heard > glycerine can be used, but I don't know where to buy > it and I'm not sure how long the tincture would last. A lot of us on this list make as strong a tincture as we can using the traditional method using 40% vodka. Penny described the method just a few days ago. I keep one eye on the alcohol percentages and use either 40%, 50% vodka or 70% rum. To get rid of the alcohol, put the dose (30-40 drops) in some hot water for a few minutes and most of the alcohol will be gone. If you don't take enough, nothing much will be accomplished. I used to get a buzz with just a little of the alcohol tincture but not anymore using the hot water. Glycerine tinctures are not supposed to be as strong as alcohol tinctures, don't last as long and some herbs will not be extracted in glycerine. > That is a great idea. What would constitute *good* > quality? Do you mean from the organic health food > store, or from a person who's made it themselves? Some members of this list sell or trade their tinctures and herbs but I haven't really been following who/what/where or when! Is that information on the Herbal Remedies website somewhere Penny? I make most of my own tinctures from my organic home grown herbs (and most of us on this list make our own - some are inexperienced like me and some have been making them for years). I get the greatest satisfaction from making my own tinctures from my own home grown herbs....there is nothing like it! If I haven't grown something I need I buy good quality dried herbs from a local organic herb place and make the tincture myself. I have also bought a few tinctures from a herbalist friend whom I trust who has a clinical practise locally. ........Joan ************************ joanr My Country Garden http://mycountrygarden.net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2001 Report Share Posted February 10, 2001 --- Joan Russell <joanr wrote: > To get rid of the > alcohol, put the dose > (30-40 drops) in some hot water for a few minutes > and most of the > alcohol will be gone. If you don't take enough, > nothing much will be > accomplished. I'm wondering if this will also make the medicines burn off somewhat too, rendering them less effective? LA Get personalized email addresses from Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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