Guest guest Posted January 17, 2001 Report Share Posted January 17, 2001 Dear Malinda and Laura, Soooooooo glad you are not using phosphates!!! When you find something that REALLY works for dishwashers - PLEASE POST...LOve PEnny (I do not have one because I won't use the washing detergent - I would love to use one...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2001 Report Share Posted January 18, 2001 I just wash dishes in the sink and then steralize in the dishwasher. - <mamalaura <herbal remedies > Wednesday, January 17, 2001 7:06 AM [herbal remedies] Re: Dishwasher detergent > > What make you think that dishwashing soap will poison plants ? Back in the old pre-dishwasher days, my mom said they used to throw the dishwater on the plants ...seems the bugs didn't like it, but the plants didn't seem to mind. Don't know from personal experience. > > > > malinda > > I'm talking about the stuff you use in a dishwasher, not the stuff you use in the sink. I use a simple, biodegradable soap for hand-washing the dishes and the plants don't seem to mind, though I do have to keep adding compost and sulfur to the soil to keep it from going too alkaline. > > Yeah, my grandmother had a pipe running from her kitchen sink to the flower garden in the back yard -- biggest camelias and lilies I've ever seen! > > I really don't want to give up the dishwasher. I may have to just give in and use one of the not-too-impressive environmentally sound brands of dishwasher detergent. Ordinary commercial dishwasher detergent has enough phosphate in it to kill every fish within a several-mile radius, not to mention the harsh detergents, bleaches and heaven knows what else. > The drain field for the dishwasher is only about 15 feet from a natural spring, so I'm pretty serious about doing this right. > > Peace, > Laura > > > Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: > 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. > 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. > 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to > prescribe for your own health. > We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as > they behave themselves. > Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person > following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. > It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to > be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. > > Dr. Ian Shillington > Doctor of Naturopathy > ian_shillington > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2001 Report Share Posted January 18, 2001 > Arachne, > Don't use a commerical dishwasher detergent- I don't. I don't like the soap- the temp. of the water is high enough to kill bacteria. I use a sponge with a handle that I fill with regular dish detergent- When I pre rinse my dishes I run that over them - put them in the dishwasher with out soap and they normally are nice and clean. If you still want to use dishwasher detergent- experiment- put a small amount in water- stir it and water a houseplant- If the houseplant doesn't like then your elders probably wouldn't either.( this is the first dishwasher I ever had- it came with the house- probably won't get another when it dies- not because it isn't conveient- but because we have a well- and water problems in the summer.) June Sounds like a good idea! I put white vinegar in the rinse aid dispenser, so that will kill any germs that the heat doesn't get. My soil is so alkaline already (pH 8.0) that I really don't want to add alkaline soap or detergent to it if I can avoid it. I don't normally rinse dishes before I put them in the dishwasher, mainly because we have a dishwasher in order to conserve water. Washing a load of dishes in a dishwasher takes about 5 gallons of water (it runs some in and then washes with that, then drains it and runs a little more in to rinse with -- it doesn't run water in constantly) whereas it takes anywhere from 10 to15 gallons of water to handwash the same number of dishes unless you're really careful with the rinse water. Of course, the electricity is another thing, but with running a business and taking care of a toddler, I'm grateful for the extra 30 minutes each day! ;-) Thanks, Laura (er . . . Arachne . . . I get schizophrenic trying to remember how people know me on each list) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2001 Report Share Posted January 19, 2001 HEy all Years ago most soaps contained Phosporous. This is what made the plant grow. Problem was it also made them grow in any water supply the soap happened to hit. So it was really damaging to the environment. Too much of a good thing IS NOt a good thing. Now most soaps do not have phosporous in them do to fed guidelines. Kathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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