Guest guest Posted January 10, 2001 Report Share Posted January 10, 2001 Ethnocentric Class Notes from Howie Brounstein Compositae Arnica mollis Common Names Hairy Arnica Identification A composite with ray and disk flowers, a pappus of hair-like bristles, involucral bracts in one or two equal series, and opposite leaves. Some Arnicas are rayless. Can be confused with Senecios, especially Senecio triangularis. Remember the opposite leaves as a field characteristic. Arnica mollis is a highly variable species that hybridizes with other Arnicas. Habitat Middle elevation creeks and moist meadows to alpine. Associated Plants Senecio triangularis, Riparian Mimulus sp. Tending the Stand Fallow, root propagation by rhizome in extreme cases, best to find another stand if you have to tend. Harvesting Root and flowers are the strongest, it's your choice. We harvest flowers and upper stems. Whole above ground is OK. The perennial roots will grow back if aboveground parts are harvested. This is the most ecological method if the species is strong enough. Root harvest requires thought for the continuation of the stand, but it can be done without difficulty. If harvesting for drying, harvest young flowers or buds as they go to seed quickly during the drying process. Processing Fresh herb is best for tincture. Fresh plants may cause an oil to go rancid from too much water, so either wilt or dry the herb. Uses Primarily topical for bruises, sprains, injuries, perhaps arthritis. Increases blood flow to the area, without the warming effect of other counterirritants. Useful to potentiate other topical herbs....mix with St. John's Wort Oil for nerve trauma....Comfrey Oil for tendonitis....etc. Do not use on broken skin. Discontinue use if reddening of the skin occurs......either dilute, harvest more of the aboveground parts for the next batch, or switch species. Arnica is used homeopathically for similar things (bruises, etc., incl. shock), however it may be taken internally in such dilute dosages. Always check label to be sure it's homeopathic. Tinctures are used topically for oily problems, oils for dry problems. I personally use Arnica oil for most purposes. Michael Moore uses it internally. Use with caution. Check MPPW. Related Plants Arnica cordifolia, Arnica montana (species used in herb trade). There are protected Arnicas in our area, so check before harvesting. The Northwest region is the global center of biodiversity for the genus Arnica. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2003 Report Share Posted April 7, 2003 Lisa, I think I would let the this pain killer "wear off" or when it is time to take another, wait an hour and give the arnica... Have you tried the hot/cold therapy? Below is what I found on co-dydramol.. Suzi Co-dydramol tablets contain two pain killers - paracetamol and dihydrocodeine. The usual dose is one or two tablets every four to six hours, but you should not take more than eight in 24 hours. It is sometimes suggested that these tablets are taken with or after food, but this is not essential. Like all medicines, this one can have some unwanted effects. Nausea and constipation can occur. Eating foods with plenty of fibre will help prevent constipation. A laxative may be needed. Occasionally people feel drowsy. It is best not to drive until you see how you are affected. Alcohol can make drowsiness worse and is best avoided. You should not take any other medicines which have paracetamol in them whilst taking co-dydramol. Paracetamol is often included in cold and 'flu remedies, and in other medicines that you can buy. Please ask me before you take anything else. Lisa Belcher <lisabelcher wrote: Does anyone know this: I want to give my mother-in-law some Arnica, as she injured her back. She is however also taking painkiller co-dydramol (!) I am not familiar with painkillers or taking these two together. Would there be any negative effects from taking both? Thanks Lisa Ms Lisa BelcherSunderland, UK IM: LisaBlcICQ # 115492725 Outgoing mail is certified virus free.Checked by NAV anti-virus system (http://www.symantec.com)Version 8.07.17c.Virus definitions updated daily/weekly.Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2003 Report Share Posted April 7, 2003 Hi Suzi, I doubt I can get her to do this. She's very much a regular MD kind of person - I suggested Arnica to her 5 days ago, but of course she hasn't bought any. I'm going to see her this afternoon, and she'll hopefully take some when I bring it :-) That's about as much as she's willing to do! My alternative lifestyle is too much for her, and she disagrees with just about everything. She gets very upset when Jamie's ill, and I refuse to take him to the MD, but work with Doc instead! She would have taken him to the emergency room in the hospital! She thinks I am cruel to Jamie by home schooling him! I could go on and on like that LOL Anyhow, Thanks for the data. I also managed to speak to a local homeopath this morning, who indicated it was fine to give Arnica with painkiller, and suggested some other remedies to try also. love Lisa - Suzanne Nottmeier herbal remedies Monday, April 07, 2003 12:48 PM Re: [herbal remedies] Arnica Lisa, I think I would let the this pain killer "wear off" or when it is time to take another, wait an hour and give the arnica... Have you tried the hot/cold therapy? Below is what I found on co-dydramol.. Suzi Co-dydramol tablets contain two pain killers - paracetamol and dihydrocodeine. The usual dose is one or two tablets every four to six hours, but you should not take more than eight in 24 hours. It is sometimes suggested that these tablets are taken with or after food, but this is not essential. Like all medicines, this one can have some unwanted effects. Nausea and constipation can occur. Eating foods with plenty of fibre will help prevent constipation. A laxative may be needed. Occasionally people feel drowsy. It is best not to drive until you see how you are affected. Alcohol can make drowsiness worse and is best avoided. You should not take any other medicines which have paracetamol in them whilst taking co-dydramol. Paracetamol is often included in cold and 'flu remedies, and in other medicines that you can buy. Please ask me before you take anything else. Lisa Belcher <lisabelcher wrote: Does anyone know this: I want to give my mother-in-law some Arnica, as she injured her back. She is however also taking painkiller co-dydramol (!) I am not familiar with painkillers or taking these two together. Would there be any negative effects from taking both? Thanks Lisa Ms Lisa BelcherSunderland, UK IM: LisaBlcICQ # 115492725 Outgoing mail is certified virus free.Checked by NAV anti-virus system (http://www.symantec.com)Version 8.07.17c.Virus definitions updated daily/weekly.Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2003 Report Share Posted April 7, 2003 Hi Suzi, I just came back from my visit, and she's taken two Arnica already, and will take another one tonight! She's also willing/keen to try the hot/cold therapy this evening|!!!!!!!! Success!! LOL Thanks. Lisa - Lisa Belcher herbal remedies Monday, April 07, 2003 1:29 PM Re: [herbal remedies] Arnica Hi Suzi, I doubt I can get her to do this. She's very much a regular MD kind of person - I suggested Arnica to her 5 days ago, but of course she hasn't bought any. I'm going to see her this afternoon, and she'll hopefully take some when I bring it :-) That's about as much as she's willing to do! My alternative lifestyle is too much for her, and she disagrees with just about everything. She gets very upset when Jamie's ill, and I refuse to take him to the MD, but work with Doc instead! She would have taken him to the emergency room in the hospital! She thinks I am cruel to Jamie by home schooling him! I could go on and on like that LOL Anyhow, Thanks for the data. I also managed to speak to a local homeopath this morning, who indicated it was fine to give Arnica with painkiller, and suggested some other remedies to try also. love Lisa - Suzanne Nottmeier herbal remedies Monday, April 07, 2003 12:48 PM Re: [herbal remedies] Arnica Lisa, I think I would let the this pain killer "wear off" or when it is time to take another, wait an hour and give the arnica... Have you tried the hot/cold therapy? Below is what I found on co-dydramol.. Suzi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2003 Report Share Posted April 11, 2003 Hi Lisa, Sorry I am a little late on this but per my herb contraindications and drug interactions book there is no indication of interactions with any drugs. Prolonged use can lead to allergic dermatitis and/or allergic hypersensitivity to other members of the Asteraceae family such as Calendula, Chamomile, and Yarrow. HTH, Don Quai - Lisa Belcher herbal_remedies Monday, April 07, 2003 11:07 AM [herbal remedies] Arnica Does anyone know this: I want to give my mother-in-law some Arnica, as she injured her back. She is however also taking painkiller co-dydramol (!) I am not familiar with painkillers or taking these two together. Would there be any negative effects from taking both? Thanks Lisa Ms Lisa BelcherSunderland, UK IM: LisaBlcICQ # 115492725 Outgoing mail is certified virus free.Checked by NAV anti-virus system (http://www.symantec.com)Version 8.07.17c.Virus definitions updated daily/weekly.Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2004 Report Share Posted December 23, 2004 --- miniscule doses will do none of the things(unless maybe you are allergic to arnica) I have taken doses of up to 30x on a regular basis for sports injuries and have yet to experience any of those symtoms and neither has anyone that I know of who takes arnica for muscular trauma/spasm karl In , Christina <cbmd3> wrote: > > That's something to take topically? because it's toxic to ingest, so how does it work? > Toxicity: The internal use of Arnica is not suggested. It can cause vomiting, weakness, increased heart rate and nervous disturbances. > > C > > > > > " Life is not holding a good hand; Life is playing a poor hand well. " > Danish proverb > > > > The all-new My – Get yours free! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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