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Well, I think discipline does have it's place however I think it is way over

done and should be

used only as a last resort and never implemented in anger.

 

With my 11 year old boy who produces enough energy in one day to light the city

of New York, I

found that by knocking off:

1. WHITE SUGAR

2. WHITE FLOUR

3. CHOCOLATE

4. TV

 

And by adding:

1. Fresh Raw Vegetables and Fruit.

2. Lots of good books to read.

 

I've not had a problem with him regardless of energy level.

 

Ian

 

 

mainard wrote:

 

> mainard <mainard

>

> I do day care in my home and these are my observations also. Mainly in my

opinion the problem

> is most parent's are afraid to discipline their children. I see people all

the time telling

> their children no and there will be such and such consequences. But they

don't carry it out.

> And I'm not talking about at my home. I'm talking about in public all the

time. What a lot

> of people fail to realize is you can discipline but not beat your children. I

talked to my

> licenser about this and if you don't leave marks that are there for several

day's that is

> discipline.(But I'm not talking about me and other people's children.I only do

time out.) And

> of course in the appropiate place. The rear-end. But to me spanking would be

a last resort.

> There are time out and taking privileges away. The main thing is if the kid's

think they can

> get away with it with no consequences they will push the boundaries. I have

seen it happen

> every time. If you say your going to do something,do it. Well,that's my 2

cents.

> COCO MO.

> Ceri wrote:

>

> > " Ceri " <ceri

> >

> > > I think all of us in our own way are trying to stop this the best way we

> > > know how, but we are up against some HUGE opponents.

> > > by the way the video game industry is about 10 billion ...now I know kids

> > > don't have 10 billion...hmmm wonder how they are getting them??

> >

> > Ummm....I'm personally tired of hearing this incredible act of violence

> > blamed on sub-cultures, musicians and video games. We can get rid of each,

> > but we're only putting a band-aid on it and not getting to the real issue of

> > what causes our kids to go off. Because of the media's portrayal my

> > daughter, and her friends, are now targets for not only the students, but

> > the teachers of her school as well.

> > They don't know my daughter like I do. No, she doesn't do well in school

> > and it's a never ending battle to get her to maintain a D average. I get a

> > weekly report from her teachers and get the complaint " She doesn't do her

> > work in class " . When I ask my daughter what she does, her response is " I

> > talk to my friends " . What does the teacher do to make them stop and get back

> > to work....nothing. I've requested that if my daughter isn't going to work

> > in class then she's to be sat in the hall or sent to sit in the guidance

> > office.....for God's sake don't let her just sit and talk. They need my

> > " permission " to do this, because most parents would get pissed if they did

> > this to their kids.

> > We, in the USA, have made it tough to discipline our own kids. I see it,

> > and hear about it, all the time. I've had friends who have had the social

> > services down their back because their kids call whenever they aren't

> > allowed to do something and lie to the investigating officer. I came home

> > from work early one day and found my daughter and two of her friends

> > skipping school (we live right across the street). I marched all three back

> > over and straight to the principal's office....they didn't even realize they

> > weren't there. Melissa lost all privileges for a week...the other girl's

> > parents laughed it off.

> > As a parent I know it's my responsibility to know about what's going on in

> > my daughters life. Get to know who she hangs out with, research and get to

> > know the music she listens to, which happens to be Marilyn Manson. I bought

> > his autobiography and watch any interview I can...and I do it with her. We

> > talk about issues he brings up....we talk about real and fantasy, we talk

> > about the horrors of what happened in Littleton, and we talk about how

> > highschool is a pretty shitty place to be when you're a teen trying to be an

> > individual. I've also taught her to keep an open mind, even when dealing

> > with close minded people...in fact, to show more compassion for those who

> > are close minded.

> > I read a statement which claimed that one of the Dylan's father owned 5

> > BMW's. At this same home they also found a piece of a gun in plain view in

> > Dylan's room. I dunno about you all, but I'd sure wanna know why my kid had

> > gun pieces and bomb instructions laying around his/her room. We need to

> > stop putting so much emphasis on materialistic stuff and get back to simple

> > living and family life...we need to get to know our kids as people, instead

> > of ignoring them and giving in to their whims, we need to set boundaries and

> > limitations so they'll know they're loved and respected.

> > Sorry I've rambled on, I thought about this and just been keeping it in for

> > so long.....

> >

> > ceri

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