Guest guest Posted November 7, 1998 Report Share Posted November 7, 1998 we (acupuncturists) do very well with this kind of complaint... Although we cannot guarentee results I have seen that many patients get better with the proper treatment. I know one doctor (MD) who specializes in gastro intestinal complaints and he uses acupuncture alot when nothing else works. An acupuncturist should be able to work with you and relieve pain. In general we say that it takes a month of treatment (once a week) for every year of the problem. Although it may take a while I think a qualified acupuncturist could really help you... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 1998 Report Share Posted November 8, 1998 Dear Valerie, Whew! OK, you are probably getting inundated with e-mails from every corner of the globe with various different solutions to your problem. Today there is a tremendous amount of confusion and false information in the health, holistic, and medical fields. The cost of Medical Treatments, and Medications are astronomical, and it is not uncommon to see a medicine cabinet bulging with prescriptions. It seems that every six months or so a new fad hits the market, and now everyone is jumping on the " Super-Duper-Fix-It-All-One-Shot " bandwagon. America appears to be a nation of individuals who expect their many years of " Over-Indulgent-Instant-Gratification " to be instantly forgiven by some medico with a " one shot " cure. It ain’t-a-gonna happen. The medico is going to poison and burn the Cancers (and body) with CHEMO Therapy and Radiation. He’s going to slice, cut and saw his way through flesh and bone to repair a heart, lung, or other organ damaged by the individual himself from an unhealthy lifestyle. It doesn’t have to be that way. You can change your health for the better, regardless of the condition you currently find yourself in, and the best time to start is now. My recommendations are as follows: 1. For the next month, go on a juice fast. Buy only organic vegetables and organic fruit, get the juicer out of the cupboard and get juicing. Minimum of one gallon per day. 2. Become a Vegan (pure vegetarian = no meat, fowl, dairy, fish whatsoever). 3. Exercise daily. Start off with a walk around the block and work up to a run around the block. Keep increasing the amount each day if only by a little bit. 4. Cultivate a Positive Mental attitude. 5. Whatever your religion is, get involved and do something with it. If you don't have one find one. 6. Keep responding to my posts on this list and I'll advise you as best as I can as to the best herbs you can take to help with your problems. For a start: #1. You need to soothe the stomach first. Make a tea (infusion) of equal parts of: Bayberry, Chickweed, Slippery Elm bark, Mullein, Hops, and Chamomile. (2 tablespoons of tea mixture to 4 cups of water) #2. To cure the ulcer terminatedly, you need to take 3 teaspoons of hottest cayenne pepper every day. This cayenne may be mixed in water or tomato juice. It is strongly recommended that you start with only 1/8th of a teaspoon 3 times a day, then gradually work up to 1 teaspoon 3 times a day. This formula was used for decades by Dr. John Christopher who always got results with it. Hope this helps. If you have problems finding the above herbs, let me know. Best regards, Ian Vhyoung wrote: > Vhyoung > > I have recently d to these lists. I suffer from pretty severe, > constant abdominal pain. I'm a 49 year old female, with a history of severe > ulcer disease. I have been in traditional treatment since 1964. Sometimes > I'm better for a time, but it's never completely gone. I feel pretty > desperate and it has been suggested to me that maybe a non-traditional > approach might work. I know absolutely nothing about anything except > traditional medicine. Help please.... > Valerie > > ------ > Help support ONElist, while generating interest in your product or > service. ONElist has a variety of advertising packages. Visit > /advert.html for more information. > ------ > Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to prescribe for your own health. We are not doctors although doctors are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here do so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice from list members, and by accepting any products from Organic Solutions, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and Organic Solutions free of any liability. Organic Solutions 1844 Springtime Ave., Clearwater FL 33755 Phone: 727-447-6863 FAX: 727-447-6491 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2002 Report Share Posted October 29, 2002 First so everyone knows what dysmenorrhea is Relief From Menstrual Cramps Many women (up to 90%) have menstrual cramps. Most are simply due to menstruation itself and don't indicate any underlying gynecological problems. The medical term for this is Primary Dysmenorrhea. Dysmenorrhea is from Latin words meaning "bad menstruation" (no joke!). PRIMARY DYSMENORRHEA (MENSTRUAL CRAMPS) CHARACTERISTICSMenstrual cramps start a day or so before actual menses. They are felt in the lower or middle abdomen. They can radiate (spread) to the hips, thighs, and back. They are decribed as a "colicky" type of pain. That means the pain rises to a peak and falls, and starts over again. This reflects the contractions of the uterus that underlie the cramps. The severity of cramps varies widely from woman to woman and even between the same woman's periods. Some have cramps that are barely noticable. Some have crampes that are excruitating. They may also have weakness, chills, and dizziness. Gasto-intestinal symptoms are also common with severe cramps: nausea, vomitting, and diarrhea. Spasms of the leg and abdominal muscles occurs with severe cramps. PRIMARY (NORMAL) VS. SECONDARY (UNDERLYING PROBLEMS): WHO GETS WHICHSecondary dysmenorrhea is when cramps are due to an actual disease, such as endometriosis. The severity is NOT a clue as to whether or not the cramps are due to a disease that needs to be treated. Primary dysmenorrhea is more likely in women whose first period was early in life and those who have heavier flow. It is common in the first year or so of a girl's menstruation, no matter when she starts. Secondary is more likely when the problem starts after the age of 25, or when there are other symptoms. Still, the only way to know is to be looked at by a doctor. THE GOOD NEWSMenstrual cramps are closely tied to ovulatory cycles. So, that means women who have them are showing an important sign of their potential for fertility. MECHANISM: HOW MENSTRUAL CRAMPS HAPPENA substance called prostagladins are the cause of most symptoms with dysmenorrhea. These are produced by the body and found in the uterine lining. When the lining starts to shed with menstruation, they are released. They cause the uterus to contract forcefully, which is the reason for much of the cramping itself.They also cause vasodilation of the circulatory system. In other words, the arteries and veins expand, so they pool blood instead of circulating it. This can cause pelvic congestion (blood pooling in the pelvis) and this itself causes discomfort and heaviness. It can drops the woman's blood pressure and therefore, the reason she might feel cold, clammy and lightheaded (the blood is diverted). In some women, it also causes contraction and spasm of the smooth muscle of the gastro-intestinal tract. This leads to nausea, vomiting and diarrhea. The flow itself is part of the problem. Heavy flow or clots in the menstruation have to squeeze out through the small opening of the cervix. This stretching is believed to cause pain as well. This is believed to be the the reason some women's cramps subside or disappear after their first baby. The cervical opening has widened. nakotakaia <knwalkerusmc wrote: Greetings!On Friday morning I was awakened by the most excruciating pain that I have ever felt in my life. It was a really intense burning that started about mid abdomen and travelled down to my thighs. I couldn't walk, I couldn't lie on my stomach or my back and I couldn't touch my stomach and on top of that I had tightened my muscles up so tightly that when I finally crawled to the restroom for the first time that day...I couldn't go...and I could feel my bladder start throbbing because it was so full. About an hour later I tried again and finally succeeded but the agony was so unbearable that I fainted, when I awakened I realized that I was bleeding (dark blood)and so I assumed that I started my menstrual cycle a week early and that it was just unusually bad. I also noticed that if I moved to quickly my stomach would get upset and I would vomit. I went to the ER (I never do that) and was told that my cycle was just early and it can happen because of stress and I have dysmennorhea. Well that may well be true but this is the first time I have ever experienced this and I don't know if I will experience this every month or what, if this is true I do not know how in the world I will be able to endure this for 3 days straight every month. So should I make an appointment with another doctor (gyno) or what? Any help you guys could give me would be a great help!~Nakota Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2002 Report Share Posted October 29, 2002 First so everyone knows what dysmenorrhea is Relief From Menstrual Cramps Many women (up to 90%) have menstrual cramps. Most are simply due to menstruation itself and don't indicate any underlying gynecological problems. The medical term for this is Primary Dysmenorrhea. Dysmenorrhea is from Latin words meaning "bad menstruation" (no joke!). PRIMARY DYSMENORRHEA (MENSTRUAL CRAMPS) CHARACTERISTICSMenstrual cramps start a day or so before actual menses. They are felt in the lower or middle abdomen. They can radiate (spread) to the hips, thighs, and back. They are decribed as a "colicky" type of pain. That means the pain rises to a peak and falls, and starts over again. This reflects the contractions of the uterus that underlie the cramps. The severity of cramps varies widely from woman to woman and even between the same woman's periods. Some have cramps that are barely noticable. Some have crampes that are excruitating. They may also have weakness, chills, and dizziness. Gasto-intestinal symptoms are also common with severe cramps: nausea, vomitting, and diarrhea. Spasms of the leg and abdominal muscles occurs with severe cramps. PRIMARY (NORMAL) VS. SECONDARY (UNDERLYING PROBLEMS): WHO GETS WHICHSecondary dysmenorrhea is when cramps are due to an actual disease, such as endometriosis. The severity is NOT a clue as to whether or not the cramps are due to a disease that needs to be treated. Primary dysmenorrhea is more likely in women whose first period was early in life and those who have heavier flow. It is common in the first year or so of a girl's menstruation, no matter when she starts. Secondary is more likely when the problem starts after the age of 25, or when there are other symptoms. Still, the only way to know is to be looked at by a doctor. THE GOOD NEWSMenstrual cramps are closely tied to ovulatory cycles. So, that means women who have them are showing an important sign of their potential for fertility. MECHANISM: HOW MENSTRUAL CRAMPS HAPPENA substance called prostagladins are the cause of most symptoms with dysmenorrhea. These are produced by the body and found in the uterine lining. When the lining starts to shed with menstruation, they are released. They cause the uterus to contract forcefully, which is the reason for much of the cramping itself.They also cause vasodilation of the circulatory system. In other words, the arteries and veins expand, so they pool blood instead of circulating it. This can cause pelvic congestion (blood pooling in the pelvis) and this itself causes discomfort and heaviness. It can drops the woman's blood pressure and therefore, the reason she might feel cold, clammy and lightheaded (the blood is diverted). In some women, it also causes contraction and spasm of the smooth muscle of the gastro-intestinal tract. This leads to nausea, vomiting and diarrhea. The flow itself is part of the problem. Heavy flow or clots in the menstruation have to squeeze out through the small opening of the cervix. This stretching is believed to cause pain as well. This is believed to be the the reason some women's cramps subside or disappear after their first baby. The cervical opening has widened. nakotakaia <knwalkerusmc wrote: Greetings!On Friday morning I was awakened by the most excruciating pain that I have ever felt in my life. It was a really intense burning that started about mid abdomen and travelled down to my thighs. I couldn't walk, I couldn't lie on my stomach or my back and I couldn't touch my stomach and on top of that I had tightened my muscles up so tightly that when I finally crawled to the restroom for the first time that day...I couldn't go...and I could feel my bladder start throbbing because it was so full. About an hour later I tried again and finally succeeded but the agony was so unbearable that I fainted, when I awakened I realized that I was bleeding (dark blood)and so I assumed that I started my menstrual cycle a week early and that it was just unusually bad. I also noticed that if I moved to quickly my stomach would get upset and I would vomit. I went to the ER (I never do that) and was told that my cycle was just early and it can happen because of stress and I have dysmennorhea. Well that may well be true but this is the first time I have ever experienced this and I don't know if I will experience this every month or what, if this is true I do not know how in the world I will be able to endure this for 3 days straight every month. So should I make an appointment with another doctor (gyno) or what? Any help you guys could give me would be a great help!~Nakota Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2002 Report Share Posted October 29, 2002 Cramp bark decoction is effective in relaxing muscular tension and spasm: Put 2 teaspoons of the dried bark in 1 cup of water, and simmer for 15 minutes; drink hot three times a day. Ginger infusion is a common remedy: add 1 cup of hot water to 1 teaspoon of the fresh grated root, and infuse for 10 minutes; drink when needed. nakotakaia <knwalkerusmc wrote: Greetings!On Friday morning I was awakened by the most excruciating pain that I have ever felt in my life. It was a really intense burning that started about mid abdomen and travelled down to my thighs. I couldn't walk, I couldn't lie on my stomach or my back and I couldn't touch my stomach and on top of that I had tightened my muscles up so tightly that when I finally crawled to the restroom for the first time that day...I couldn't go...and I could feel my bladder start throbbing because it was so full. About an hour later I tried again and finally succeeded but the agony was so unbearable that I fainted, when I awakened I realized that I was bleeding (dark blood)and so I assumed that I started my menstrual cycle a week early and that it was just unusually bad. I also noticed that if I moved to quickly my stomach would get upset and I would vomit. I went to the ER (I never do that) and was told that my cycle was just early and it can happen because of stress and I have dysmennorhea. Well that may well be true but this is the first time I have ever experienced this and I don't know if I will experience this every month or what, if this is true I do not know how in the world I will be able to endure this for 3 days straight every month. So should I make an appointment with another doctor (gyno) or what? Any help you guys could give me would be a great help!~Nakota Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2002 Report Share Posted October 29, 2002 I don't know if this is of much help. I had a D & C earlier this year after a miscarriage. After which, I had painful minstral cycles. I had never hurt to the point of nausia until this point. I menchened this to a friend and she told me to take the highest reccomended doses of blessed thistle, and Fenugreek for the next month. It worked and I hate to admit I didn't take it as regular as I should have. - " nakotakaia " <knwalkerusmc <herbal remedies > Monday, October 28, 2002 8:48 PM [herbal remedies] Abdominal Pain > Greetings! > > On Friday morning I was awakened by the most excruciating pain that I > have ever felt in my life. It was a really intense burning that > started about mid abdomen and travelled down to my thighs. I > couldn't walk, I couldn't lie on my stomach or my back and I couldn't > touch my stomach and on top of that I had tightened my muscles up so > tightly that when I finally crawled to the restroom for the first > time that day...I couldn't go...and I could feel my bladder start > throbbing because it was so full. About an hour later I tried again > and finally succeeded but the agony was so unbearable that I fainted, > when I awakened I realized that I was bleeding (dark blood)and so I > assumed that I started my menstrual cycle a week early and that it > was just unusually bad. I also noticed that if I moved to quickly my > stomach would get upset and I would vomit. I went to the ER (I never > do that) and was told that my cycle was just early and it can happen > because of stress and I have dysmennorhea. Well that may well be > true but this is the first time I have ever experienced this and I > don't know if I will experience this every month or what, if this is > true I do not know how in the world I will be able to endure this for > 3 days straight every month. So should I make an appointment with > another doctor (gyno) or what? Any help you guys could give me would > be a great help! > > ~Nakota > > > > Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: > 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. > 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. > 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to > prescribe for your own health. > We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as > they behave themselves. > Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person > following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. > It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to > be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. > > Dr. Ian Shillington > Doctor of Naturopathy > Dr.IanShillington > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2002 Report Share Posted October 29, 2002 Nakota, there are numerous possibilities here, but you could be experiencing chronic appendicitis. Makes everything in the abdomen go flooey. Regardless the person who saw you in the ER is an idiot and you definitely should find out the why and what of this immediately. Call a REAL doctor - our list owner ;-) I know he can help you. Janet - nakotakaia herbal remedies Monday, October 28, 2002 5:48 PM [herbal remedies] Abdominal Pain Greetings!On Friday morning I was awakened by the most excruciating pain that I have ever felt in my life. It was a really intense burning that started about mid abdomen and travelled down to my thighs. I couldn't walk, I couldn't lie on my stomach or my back and I couldn't touch my stomach and on top of that I had tightened my muscles up so tightly that when I finally crawled to the restroom for the first time that day...I couldn't go...and I could feel my bladder start throbbing because it was so full. About an hour later I tried again and finally succeeded but the agony was so unbearable that I fainted, when I awakened I realized that I was bleeding (dark blood)and so I assumed that I started my menstrual cycle a week early and that it was just unusually bad. I also noticed that if I moved to quickly my stomach would get upset and I would vomit. I went to the ER (I never do that) and was told that my cycle was just early and it can happen because of stress and I have dysmennorhea. Well that may well be true but this is the first time I have ever experienced this and I don't know if I will experience this every month or what, if this is true I do not know how in the world I will be able to endure this for 3 days straight every month. So should I make an appointment with another doctor (gyno) or what? Any help you guys could give me would be a great help!~NakotaFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2002 Report Share Posted October 29, 2002 Thanks guys! I knew I could count on you! By the way the dr. who attended me was a real a$$, after I told him " no thank you, only herbal meds for me. " when he tried to write me out all kinds of prescriptions, I attempted to ask him more questions and he suddenly didn't have time for me anymore. I hope ER service isn't always that bad. ~Nakota herbal remedies, " Dragonhealer " <dragonhealing@a...> wrote: > Nakota, there are numerous possibilities here, but you could be experiencing chronic appendicitis. Makes everything in the abdomen go flooey. Regardless the person who saw you in the ER is an idiot and you definitely should find out the why and what of this immediately. Call a REAL doctor - our list owner ;-) I know he can help you. > > Janet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2002 Report Share Posted November 1, 2002 Unfortunately it is getting worse. And good for you for saying NO. Writing RXs for something he doesn't even know what it is?! Wonder if he's ever heard of "masking the pain"? OOOOOH makes me so mad. *end of tirade* Let us know how you are doing hon :-) Janet - nakotakaia herbal remedies Monday, October 28, 2002 8:44 PM [herbal remedies] Re: Abdominal Pain Thanks guys! I knew I could count on you! By the way the dr. who attended me was a real a$$, after I told him "no thank you, only herbal meds for me." when he tried to write me out all kinds of prescriptions, I attempted to ask him more questions and he suddenly didn't have time for me anymore. I hope ER service isn't always that bad.~Nakotaherbal remedies, "Dragonhealer" <dragonhealing@a...> wrote:> Nakota, there are numerous possibilities here, but you could be experiencing chronic appendicitis. Makes everything in the abdomen go flooey. Regardless the person who saw you in the ER is an idiot and you definitely should find out the why and what of this immediately. Call a REAL doctor - our list owner ;-) I know he can help you.> > JanetFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2002 Report Share Posted November 1, 2002 Hi Janet! That is the first time that I had ever been in an emergency room and it is a shame that the service is that bad on a regular basis. As far as my abdominal pain is concerned I just waited the pain out and I went for a check up and the dr. said that she could find nothing wrong and that it was more likely dysmennorhea or stress. I don't really know how to handle it because up until that point my cycles were very mild. So that being the case I need to figure out how to deal with it because it was horrible and I am not looking forward to it happening again that's for sure. ~Nakota herbal remedies, " Dragonhealer " <dragonhealing@a...> wrote: > Unfortunately it is getting worse. And good for you for saying NO. Writing RXs for something he doesn't even know what it is?! Wonder if he's ever heard of " masking the pain " ? OOOOOH makes me so mad. *end of tirade* > > Let us know how you are doing hon :-) > > Janet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2002 Report Share Posted November 1, 2002 Nakota, Try one of these for pain..... Cramp bark decoction is effective in relaxing muscular tension and spasm: Put 2 teaspoons of the dried bark in 1 cup of water, and simmer for 15 minutes; drink hot three times a day. Ginger infusion is a common remedy: add 1 cup of hot water to 1 teaspoon of the fresh grated root, and infuse for 10 minutes; drink when needed. HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2002 Report Share Posted November 1, 2002 definition please. decoct, simmer, infuse. Thank you, Ken - Suzanne Nottmeier herbal remedies Friday, November 01, 2002 8:10 AM Re: [herbal remedies] Re: Abdominal Pain Nakota, Try one of these for pain..... Cramp bark decoction is effective in relaxing muscular tension and spasm: Put 2 teaspoons of the dried bark in 1 cup of water, and simmer for 15 minutes; drink hot three times a day. Ginger infusion is a common remedy: add 1 cup of hot water to 1 teaspoon of the fresh grated root, and infuse for 10 minutes; drink when needed. HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2002 Report Share Posted November 2, 2002 Ken, I do believe that you can find a dictionary somewhere that will give you exact definitions for these words. Check your local library if you are unfortunate enough not to own one yourself. You might also consider investing in a good dictionary for use when words come up that you don't understand. They can be very informative and will help you quite a lot. Also we won't have to keep defining words for you and can put our attention on answering health related problems and giving health related advice. Don > " ken " <schw9883 >herbal remedies ><herbal remedies > >Re: [herbal remedies] Re: Abdominal Pain >Fri, 1 Nov 2002 08:29:53 -0500 > >definition please. >decoct, simmer, infuse. >Thank you, Ken > - > Suzanne Nottmeier > herbal remedies > Friday, November 01, 2002 8:10 AM > Re: [herbal remedies] Re: Abdominal Pain > > > Nakota, > > Try one of these for pain..... > > a.. Cramp bark decoction is effective in relaxing muscular tension and >spasm: Put 2 teaspoons of the dried bark in 1 cup of water, and simmer for >15 minutes; drink hot three times a day. > > b.. Ginger infusion is a common remedy: add 1 cup of hot water to 1 >teaspoon of the fresh grated root, and infuse for 10 minutes; drink when >needed. > > HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now > Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: > 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. > 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural >remedy. > 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician >and to > prescribe for your own health. > We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long >as > they behave themselves. > Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any >person > following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. > It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products >from list members, you are agreeing to > be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and >members free of any liability. > > Dr. Ian Shillington > Doctor of Naturopathy > Dr.IanShillington > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2002 Report Share Posted November 2, 2002 There is great dictionary on the line. babylon.com You can try for free. Jasmina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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