Guest guest Posted October 9, 2007 Report Share Posted October 9, 2007 Dear Fasting Health Forum, I would love to have your ears for a moment. Gabriel Cousens, M.D.'s new book is a program that includes green juice fasting as part of a cure for type-II diabetes. The book's title is There Is A Cure For Diabetes. It is available for early order on Amazon.com. It is my interest to create a swell of interest in this book for those who would like to reverse their diabetes profoundly, and for those who would like to support the many people who will be healed of diabetes and will become advocates of juice fasting and nutrition as natural ways of healing. I thought some of you may want to contact me to help organize this international book release. I would be grateful and happy to work with you. Thank you, Michael Bedar michael On 9 Oct 2007 08:50:41 -0000, wrote: > > > > > > Messages In This Digest (10 Messages) > 1a. Re: two days fasting each week Rachel D 1b. Re: two days fasting > each week Robert Ratliff 1c. Re: two days fasting each week > Nikki Books Zilla 1d. Re: two days fasting each week Antwan Penn 1e. > two days fasting each week srewolf_bl 1f. Re: two days fasting each > week Robert Ratliff 1g. Re: two days fasting each week Robert > Ratliff 1h. Re: two days fasting each week Wild Rose 1i. Re: two days > fasting each week Wild Rose 1j. two days fasting each week > srewolf_bl > View All Topics | Create New Topic > Messages > 1a. > Re: two days fasting each week > Posted by: " Rachel D " faithful2finish rachd1961 > Mon Oct 8, 2007 6:48 am (PST) > > Rose wrote: > " I realise I am making a lot of absolutes here and in my first post (which > was actually, my first ever post on the Internet!) and I am unsure of forum > etiquette and what is required, such as, is it needed that I supply evidence > for my statements, is it needed that I verify I am not arrogantly trying to > preach MY WAY, would it be more soft on the reader if I were to include " I > think " , " I believe " , " perhaps " , or " from what I have read " ? " > ======================= > > Hi Rose > Welcome! I just wanted to comment on this portion of your post at this > point. I think your post is fine, but I would also agree that it is good to > provide resources when you have them because it helps people do their own > research. In my opinion, it is essential that each person do research and > even to investigate opposing views, too. So although it isn't necessary to > document every statement, it is helpful if you can share resources. So it's > not really a matter of " proving " your statements, but rather sharing helpful > resources when possible so that others can do their own research. > > As for including " I believe " or " from what I have read " , it isn't > necessary, but could be helpful at times, because I think a lot of people > are more receptive to information that is presented that way. That's > entirely up to you, though. I would encourage you to just be yourself. > > I appreciate your post and encourage you to continue posting! > Rachel > > ©2003 LongBraid Designs > > > > Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post > Messages in this topic (23) 1b. > Re: two days fasting each week > Posted by: " Robert Ratliff " bratliff bratliff22 > Mon Oct 8, 2007 7:45 am (PST) > The key is to not eat toxic foods. > > Best Regards, Robert Ratliff > > GardeninginPanama/ > Retired in the land of eternal spring(Volcan,Panama). > Skype name bobinpanama2006 > ------------------------- > ------------------------- > ------------------------- > -------- > > > > > So it almost sounds as if fasting is a delicate balancing act. While it > may > reduce the immediate toxic levels in the body, that cleansed state is a > really unstable one, ready to reabsorb toxins again faster than over, > leaving you worse off than before fasting. This is an accurate picture > of > what is going on? > > Billy > > > > Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post > Messages in this topic (23) 1c. > Re: two days fasting each week > Posted by: " Nikki Books Zilla " AtomicBlonde blonde_n_brilliant > Mon Oct 8, 2007 8:25 am (PST) > I have really been concerned about my drinking water lately > A middle school kid did a test for class on drinking water up and down her > state > Antibiotics, steroids, and all kinds of drugs, both illegal and > prescription > were found in her tests. > I know antibiotics kill the good bacteria in your system. > I don't want to be a weirdo and start wearing aluminum foil on my head but > I > have to wonder. > How much of this stuff am I taking in? > Bleached flour is horrible for you, but chlorine aint great either, > Makes you wonder. > > I have had great results incorporating coconut oil into my diet and using > it > on my skin. > > And again when I fast and I havent eaten anything in days, and I take that > candida clear.... All of a sudden I'm producing a LOT of waste... > Double flusher kind of waste. > What the heck is in my guts and how long has it been in there? > > >  > > Nicoel Suzanne > > > ×´ ¨) > ¸.·´¸.· ´¨) ¸.·*¨) > *~ Nikki ~*`·.´·.¸¸.·´¨`» > > ---- > > Wild Rose > 10/7/2007 9:10:22 PM > > Re: Re: two days fasting each week > > No, no, I didn't mean that fasting makes you more vulnerable to toxicity, > rather there is so much residue in our systems that hasn't been eliminated > and gets built up over the years, hardens into mucoid plaque (among other > things), and presents illness in its later stage. Toxicity comes from the > food we eat. The body can only digest organic material, inorganic material > leaves residue within the body and does not fully get eliminated. So to > take > the body back to a cleansed state through fasting or any other means, is a > slow process that possibly will take years. > > Billy, you talk of taking the body back to a cleansed state and I have to > wonder, was there ever a time you could say you were in that state? Even in > the womb and as a baby, my nourishment came through my mothers diet; the > pasturised milk, the bread, meat, the canola oil....when I was born I was > already in a state of needing to be detoxed, and then I was brought up on > flour, butter, sugar, salt and oil as a constant, daily ritual. > > So my original point was to say that dead, processed food creates the > problems in the first place. If that is what we eat between fasts, then I > see it as taking two steps forward and one step backwards and still, we > hurt > the body. > > I realise I am making a lot of absolutes here and in my first post (which > was actually, my first ever post on the Internet!) and I am unsure of forum > etiquette and what is required, such as, is it needed that I supply > evidence > for my statements, is it needed that I verify I am not arrogantly trying to > preach MY WAY, would it be more soft on the reader if I were to include " I > think " , " I believe " , " perhaps " , or " from what I have read " ? > > So just to clarify for my own sake, I am a student of natural hygiene and I > am passionate about this subject and am open to learning and being > corrected > if someone believes I am off track. > > Regards, Rose > > > ---- > > Billy Gard > 08/10/2007 13:11:56 > > Re: two days fasting each week > > <<< So the fasting cleans out and gives the system a rest, but if on the > eating days you eat processed dead food with no living enzymes in it then > you are just undoing all the good from the fast...and this is where I see > here a fine line between fasting for health and bordering on an eating > disorder. >>> > > That reminds me of the premise that when you begin cutting your hair it > will > cause it to grow several times faster. I did hear many times about how > people who lose weight gain it back really fast, even though they gained > their original weight over a great period of time. > > But does toxicity work the same way? Does getting clean by fasting increase > the vulnerability of the body to sucking back in the toxins? I'd like to > think that once the body is clean by fasting, it will be a cleanness as > rugged as it was the last time the body was that clean years ago, before I > heard of fasting. > > So it almost sounds as if fasting is a delicate balancing act. While it may > reduce the immediate toxic levels in the body, that cleansed state is a > really unstable one, ready to reabsorb toxins again faster than over, > leaving you worse off than before fasting. This is an accurate picture of > what is going on? > > Billy > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2007 Report Share Posted October 9, 2007 What are the precepts for " There Is A Cure For Diabetes " ? Best Regards, Robert Ratliff GardeninginPanama/ Retired in the land of eternal spring(Volcan,Panama). Skype name bobinpanama2006 ------ ------ ------ -------- On Behalf Of Michael Bedar Tuesday, October 09, 2007 10:41 AM Green Juice Fasting for curing type-II diabetes in a new book Dear Fasting Health Forum, I would love to have your ears for a moment. Gabriel Cousens, M.D.'s new book is a program that includes green juice fasting as part of a cure for type-II diabetes. The book's title is There Is A Cure For Diabetes. It is available for early order on Amazon.com. It is my interest to create a swell of interest in this book for those who would like to reverse their diabetes profoundly, and for those who would like to support the many people who will be healed of diabetes and will become advocates of juice fasting and nutrition as natural ways of healing. I thought some of you may want to contact me to help organize this international book release. I would be grateful and happy to work with you. Thank you, Michael Bedar michael On 9 Oct 2007 08:50:41 -0000, wrote: > > > > > > Messages In This Digest (10 Messages) > 1a. Re: two days fasting each week Rachel D 1b. Re: two days fasting > each week Robert Ratliff 1c. Re: two days fasting each week > Nikki Books Zilla 1d. Re: two days fasting each week Antwan Penn 1e. > two days fasting each week srewolf_bl 1f. Re: two days fasting each > week Robert Ratliff 1g. Re: two days fasting each week Robert > Ratliff 1h. Re: two days fasting each week Wild Rose 1i. Re: two days > fasting each week Wild Rose 1j. two days fasting each week > srewolf_bl > View All Topics | Create New Topic > Messages > 1a. > Re: two days fasting each week > Posted by: " Rachel D " faithful2finish rachd1961 > Mon Oct 8, 2007 6:48 am (PST) > > Rose wrote: > " I realise I am making a lot of absolutes here and in my first post (which > was actually, my first ever post on the Internet!) and I am unsure of forum > etiquette and what is required, such as, is it needed that I supply evidence > for my statements, is it needed that I verify I am not arrogantly trying to > preach MY WAY, would it be more soft on the reader if I were to include " I > think " , " I believe " , " perhaps " , or " from what I have read " ? " > ======================= > > Hi Rose > Welcome! I just wanted to comment on this portion of your post at this > point. I think your post is fine, but I would also agree that it is good to > provide resources when you have them because it helps people do their own > research. In my opinion, it is essential that each person do research and > even to investigate opposing views, too. So although it isn't necessary to > document every statement, it is helpful if you can share resources. So it's > not really a matter of " proving " your statements, but rather sharing helpful > resources when possible so that others can do their own research. > > As for including " I believe " or " from what I have read " , it isn't > necessary, but could be helpful at times, because I think a lot of people > are more receptive to information that is presented that way. That's > entirely up to you, though. I would encourage you to just be yourself. > > I appreciate your post and encourage you to continue posting! > Rachel > > ©2003 LongBraid Designs > > > > Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post > Messages in this topic (23) 1b. > Re: two days fasting each week > Posted by: " Robert Ratliff " bratliff bratliff22 > Mon Oct 8, 2007 7:45 am (PST) > The key is to not eat toxic foods. > > Best Regards, Robert Ratliff > > GardeninginPanama/ > Retired in the land of eternal spring(Volcan,Panama). > Skype name bobinpanama2006 > ------------------------- > ------------------------- > ------------------------- > -------- > > > > > So it almost sounds as if fasting is a delicate balancing act. While it > may > reduce the immediate toxic levels in the body, that cleansed state is a > really unstable one, ready to reabsorb toxins again faster than over, > leaving you worse off than before fasting. This is an accurate picture > of > what is going on? > > Billy > > > > Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post > Messages in this topic (23) 1c. > Re: two days fasting each week > Posted by: " Nikki Books Zilla " AtomicBlonde blonde_n_brilliant > Mon Oct 8, 2007 8:25 am (PST) > I have really been concerned about my drinking water lately > A middle school kid did a test for class on drinking water up and down her > state > Antibiotics, steroids, and all kinds of drugs, both illegal and > prescription > were found in her tests. > I know antibiotics kill the good bacteria in your system. > I don't want to be a weirdo and start wearing aluminum foil on my head but > I > have to wonder. > How much of this stuff am I taking in? > Bleached flour is horrible for you, but chlorine aint great either, > Makes you wonder. > > I have had great results incorporating coconut oil into my diet and using > it > on my skin. > > And again when I fast and I havent eaten anything in days, and I take that > candida clear.... All of a sudden I'm producing a LOT of waste... > Double flusher kind of waste. > What the heck is in my guts and how long has it been in there? > > >  > > Nicoel Suzanne > > > ×´ ¨) > ¸.·´¸.· ´¨) ¸.·*¨) > *~ Nikki ~*`·.´·.¸¸.·´¨`» > > ---- > > Wild Rose > 10/7/2007 9:10:22 PM > > Re: Re: two days fasting each week > > No, no, I didn't mean that fasting makes you more vulnerable to toxicity, > rather there is so much residue in our systems that hasn't been eliminated > and gets built up over the years, hardens into mucoid plaque (among other > things), and presents illness in its later stage. Toxicity comes from the > food we eat. The body can only digest organic material, inorganic material > leaves residue within the body and does not fully get eliminated. So to > take > the body back to a cleansed state through fasting or any other means, is a > slow process that possibly will take years. > > Billy, you talk of taking the body back to a cleansed state and I have to > wonder, was there ever a time you could say you were in that state? Even in > the womb and as a baby, my nourishment came through my mothers diet; the > pasturised milk, the bread, meat, the canola oil....when I was born I was > already in a state of needing to be detoxed, and then I was brought up on > flour, butter, sugar, salt and oil as a constant, daily ritual. > > So my original point was to say that dead, processed food creates the > problems in the first place. If that is what we eat between fasts, then I > see it as taking two steps forward and one step backwards and still, we > hurt > the body. > > I realise I am making a lot of absolutes here and in my first post (which > was actually, my first ever post on the Internet!) and I am unsure of forum > etiquette and what is required, such as, is it needed that I supply > evidence > for my statements, is it needed that I verify I am not arrogantly trying to > preach MY WAY, would it be more soft on the reader if I were to include " I > think " , " I believe " , " perhaps " , or " from what I have read " ? > > So just to clarify for my own sake, I am a student of natural hygiene and I > am passionate about this subject and am open to learning and being > corrected > if someone believes I am off track. > > Regards, Rose > > > ---- > > Billy Gard > 08/10/2007 13:11:56 > > Re: two days fasting each week > > <<< So the fasting cleans out and gives the system a rest, but if on the > eating days you eat processed dead food with no living enzymes in it then > you are just undoing all the good from the fast...and this is where I see > here a fine line between fasting for health and bordering on an eating > disorder. >>> > > That reminds me of the premise that when you begin cutting your hair it > will > cause it to grow several times faster. I did hear many times about how > people who lose weight gain it back really fast, even though they gained > their original weight over a great period of time. > > But does toxicity work the same way? Does getting clean by fasting increase > the vulnerability of the body to sucking back in the toxins? I'd like to > think that once the body is clean by fasting, it will be a cleanness as > rugged as it was the last time the body was that clean years ago, before I > heard of fasting. > > So it almost sounds as if fasting is a delicate balancing act. While it may > reduce the immediate toxic levels in the body, that cleansed state is a > really unstable one, ready to reabsorb toxins again faster than over, > leaving you worse off than before fasting. This is an accurate picture of > what is going on? > > Billy > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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