Guest guest Posted November 23, 2005 Report Share Posted November 23, 2005 Someone said this better then I can so lets hear this repost.I agree with much of it. There aient no free lunch so don't look to medical community to provide an easy out... This is why fasting is so crucial to get us away from whats hooking up Whoever Craig is I'd sure like to thank him although I would never endorse medical stomach stapling proven more dangerous as time goes on. http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2005/06/17/stories-of-weight- loss-surgery/ Mike FAVORITE QUOTE EXCERPT Many of the additives in your food are harder to kick as a major drug habit, but at least the drug addict has some idea of the cause of their situation, in the case of the obese they have no idea why they cant control their cravings ... Yes some people are completely healthy being fat and some suffer in many many ways . It's the obsession with stereotyping that's creates these kinds of debates, gastric stapling is a valuable medical procedure when it is used in the right circumstances, like any procedure it can also be a disaster in the wrong circumstances. Taking a few cases and forecasting a negative stereotype across the procedure is intellectually dishonest . It is also less than compassionate to the fat people who undertook this procedure to assume they should just get their act together and start owning their weight issues, obviously many people have great difficulty accepting and rejoicing in their obesity. We are all individuals and its likely medical science will solve obesity in the next 20 years with much less invasive procedures than the one referred . Who among us given a safe medically proven option would choose to remain fat. Owning the fact that your larger than most usually comes at the end of a many years of non acceptance, people who truly accept and feel comfortable with their weight are usually people who have failed to change it over time. This would seem the most logical approach if all things in the past have failed and I congratulate those who can do this, but I would also suggest to those that have achieved this that other people find it very difficult to follow in your footsteps and they deserve compassion for their struggle . I especially like the line Obesity, in the most part comes from a completely unregulated food manufacturing industry. Additives like Corn Syrup and Palm oil (just to name a few) have created a bonafide health epidemic, yes some people are reasonably healthy with a few extra pounds but as the level of obesity gets higher the relative health of people declines. To many people become obsessed with the stereotypes being played out by the media and fashion industry being the issue, when in reality the food industry has systematically perpetrated a great crime on humanity. Biological systems that took millions of years to evolve , systems that work perfectly well given the right fuel have been individually destroyed by a criminal lack of concern by the food industry for their customers, corn syrup is used as the main sweetener in 81% of manufactured products. Humans were not meant to eat the fructose found in corn syrup it creates insulin reactions that enables all the carbs and fat you might eat to be stored as fat. It should be banned like heroin or cocaine , I would argue that it causes more misery. I can give you a list of +50 products on the market today that should not be allowed to be used in the manufacture of our food. Consider this at the turn of the century the average American consumed 4 pounds of sugar per year, this rose to an estimated 113 pounds per person in 1966 to 168 pounds in 2003. Now remember that's the average it is estimated that 10% of Americans consume more than 350 pounds of sugar per year. In 1966 almost all sweetner sold was sucrose or cane sugar, high-fructose corn syrup, has climbed from zero consumption in 1966 to 72.4 pounds per person in 2003. Consumption of glucose kicks off a cascade of biochemical reactions. It increases production of insulin by the pancreas, which enables sugar in the blood to be transported into cells, where it can be used for energy. It increases production of leptin, a hormone that helps regulate appetite and fat storage, and it suppresses production of another hormone made by the stomach, ghrelin, that helps regulate food intake. It has been theorized that when ghrelin levels drop, as they do after eating carbohydrates composed of glucose, hunger declines. Fructose is a different story. It appears to behave more like fat with respect to the hormones involved in body weight regulation. Fructose doesn't stimulate insulin secretion. It doesn't increase leptin production or suppress production of ghrelin.. If you consume allot of fructose you will get fat and there is no doubt about this whatsoever. High consumption of fructose will make you very very unhealthy so just accepting that being fat is ok and not worry about the cause is avoiding the real issues that underly the condition. The food manufacturers have been playing with our health biochemically, the combinations of their additives leaves todays obese person in a worse position than a cocain addict. Many of the additives in your food are harder to kick as a major drug habit, but at least the drug addict has some idea of the cause of their situation, in the case of the obese they have no idea why they cant control their cravings . In a society that assumes obesities root cause lies with the individuals inability to self regulate, great suffering must be endured by most who have little idea that they have been made chemically dependant on the additives in the food they buy from the supermarket. Accepting obesity as you suggest covers up the great crimes that has been perpetrated on society by the manufacturers of food. People need to be educated about the causes of obesity . It's societies obsession with the drugs of addiction and the lack of intellectual scrutiny of other things we add to our systems that is the underlying issue. Coca Cola consumed in the quantities that American consumes is actually worse for you medically than the other type of Coke. This lack of scrutiny about what we eat is the root cause. Anglo Saxons who have never in their genetic history consumed things like sugar and rice, now consume huge quantities of things that their ancestors never ever ate. Polynesians now consume huge amounts of animals fats and carbohydrates that their bodies have never been evolved to digest. If you look at you individual pre 1900 ancestors diet and compare it to what you consume now it will usually provide some pretty big clues about what is cause the weight issues. Rather than accepting obesity you should fight it for humanities sake, the food manufacturers are slowly poisoning the human race. Obesity is doubling every decade and represents a threat the health and happiness of humanity, your suggestion that we should just accept this situation reflects a poor understanding of the issues that humanity faces. Suggesting that we might tackle this issue by not fighting it is just a reflection that you have given up yourself. 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