Fasting

[Guest guest]

> A quote by Paul C. Bragg:

> I had this urine examined and sure enough, it was filled with DDT

> and other poisons! "

>

> The latter part sounds kinda scary to me. Has anyone done this kind

> of fasting and experienced the same effects?

 

At least he was voiding the DDT..... you can take a series of ozone

steam saunas to break up the DDT and any other organic toxins, to

oxidize heavy metals, increase metabolic activity, kill germs etc...

 

Here's a primer on the medical use of ozone.

 

http://www.ozonio.com.br/medical.htm

 

regards,

 

Duncan Crow

[Guest guest]

It sounds fake to me. Where would someone be exposed

to DDT these days? DDT was banned in the US over 30

years ago.

 

--- silverhermit <silverhermit wrote:

> A quote by Paul C. Bragg:

>

> " I do four 7 to 10 day fasting periods yearly. When

> I go on a 7 to 10 day complete water fast, I take a

> specimen of my urine each morning upon arising.. I

> put it in a small labeled bottle to let it cool and

> settle. In a few days, I can see little crystals

> forming in the urine. I have had my urine examined

> for chemicals, and the examiner has told me time and

> time again that traces of DDT and other deadly

> pesticide residues have appeared in my urine.. On

> one occasion, I took a 21 day complete water fast.

> On the 19th day, I had terrible pains in my bladder.

> When I urinated it felt like red hot water passing

> through me. I had this urine examined and sure

> enough, it was filled with DDT and other poisons! "

>

> The latter part sounds kinda scary to me. Has

> anyone done this kind of fasting and experienced the

> same effects?

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

If you eat produce from other countries,

you are still getting it. The US still makes it and ships it to other countries. I believe it can stay in your system for

a very long time.

 

Carol

 

 

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Message-----

Chris StClair

[cstclr] It sounds fake to me. Where would someone be exposed

to DDT these days? DDT was banned in the US over

30

years ago.

 

..

[Guest guest]

Dear Karen,

 

Immediately. When you are done juicing the nutrients are already fading. So..., I never ever wait past 10 minutes. Remember that there are so many nutrients that waiting 10 minutes isn't taking too many of them away but I drink my fill immediately then whatever is left over I treat like a liquor and slowly drink the rest.

 

Does this answer your question?

 

Love,

 

Zeb

 

_________________________

 

Zeb,I know fresh is best, but how far in advance can you juice and not lose the nutritional benefits?Karen

[Guest guest]

Zeb,

 

Yep. I was just hoping that I could juice enough for day or two

during times when I'm busy and on the run- saving the prep and clean-

up time. Doesn't sound like it. That's okay, but worth asking.

 

Thanks,

Karen

 

 

 

herbal remedies , " Office Manager "

<office@a...> wrote:

> Dear Karen,

>

> Immediately. When you are done juicing the nutrients are

already fading. So..., I never ever wait past 10 minutes. Remember

that there are so many nutrients that waiting 10 minutes isn't

taking too many of them away but I drink my fill immediately then

whatever is left over I treat like a liquor and slowly drink the

rest.

>

> Does this answer your question?

>

> Love,

>

> Zeb

>

> _________________________

>

> Zeb,

>

> I know fresh is best, but how far in advance can you juice and not

> lose the nutritional benefits?

>

> Karen

[Guest guest]

Hi Karen,

 

As Zeb mentioned, the nutrients are already fading fast if you juice

something and then keep it a while. HOWEVER, Doc Christopher's Juice

Cleanse (info in the files) does say that you can do it with bottled

juices, and I have, with great results. Obviously, " fresh juice " , even

if a few hours old, would be better than bottled. I'd recommend not

making this too complicated for yourself. If you want to try a juice

fast, go for it! Juice what you can fresh and do what you can for the

other.

 

 

Best,

Kelli

 

|

| zengirl04 [zengirl04]

| Wednesday, March 16, 2005 4:48 PM

| herbal remedies

| Re: Herbal Remedies - Fasting

|

| Zeb,

|

| Yep. I was just hoping that I could juice enough for day or two

| during times when I'm busy and on the run- saving the prep and clean-

| up time. Doesn't sound like it.

[Guest guest]

Entirely correct Kelli. ANY juice is better than no juice. Far far better than no juice.

 

 

Thanks Kel,

 

Zeb

 

-

Kelli Bever

herbal remedies

Thursday, March 17, 2005 4:30 PM

RE: Herbal Remedies - Fasting

Hi Karen,As Zeb mentioned, the nutrients are already fading fast if you juicesomething and then keep it a while. HOWEVER, Doc Christopher's JuiceCleanse (info in the files) does say that you can do it with bottledjuices, and I have, with great results. Obviously, "fresh juice", evenif a few hours old, would be better than bottled. I'd recommend notmaking this too complicated for yourself. If you want to try a juicefast, go for it! Juice what you can fresh and do what you can for theother.:)Best,Kelli | | zengirl04 [zengirl04] | Wednesday, March 16, 2005 4:48 PM| herbal remedies | Re: Herbal Remedies - Fasting| | Zeb,| | Yep. I was just hoping that I could juice enough for day or two | during times when I'm busy and on the run- saving the prep and clean-| up time. Doesn't sound like it. Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

[Guest guest]

Thanks Kelli. I didn't know the " degree " of loss and so it was

difficult to know how to be efficient. Luckily, the juicer I got

finally arrived (Breville 2-speed) and it looks like clean-up is

going to be a snap. I'm trying to get organized to start the Total

Body Cleanse.

 

 

herbal remedies , " Kelli Bever " <kelli@c...>

wrote:

>

> Hi Karen,

>

> As Zeb mentioned, the nutrients are already fading fast if you

juice

> something and then keep it a while. HOWEVER, Doc Christopher's

Juice

> Cleanse (info in the files) does say that you can do it with

bottled

> juices, and I have, with great results. Obviously, " fresh juice " ,

even

> if a few hours old, would be better than bottled. I'd recommend not

> making this too complicated for yourself. If you want to try a

juice

> fast, go for it! Juice what you can fresh and do what you can for

the

> other.

>

>

>

> Best,

> Kelli

>

> |

> | zengirl04 [zengirl04]

> | Wednesday, March 16, 2005 4:48 PM

> | herbal remedies

> | Re: Herbal Remedies - Fasting

> |

> | Zeb,

> |

> | Yep. I was just hoping that I could juice enough for day or two

> | during times when I'm busy and on the run- saving the prep and

clean-

> | up time. Doesn't sound like it.

[Guest guest]

You go!!! That's fantastic! The cleanse is going to be great. Have you

done any cleansing before? I did the Total Body Cleanse straight from a

know-nothing, eating the Standard American Diet phase of my life. Whew!!

The world seems completely different now! LOL!!!

 

I'm on my fourth body cleanse now. Week 4 and counting!!!

 

Best,

Kelli

 

|

| zengirl04 [zengirl04]

| Friday, March 18, 2005 6:47 AM

| herbal remedies

| Re: Herbal Remedies - Fasting

|

| Thanks Kelli. I didn't know the " degree " of loss and so it was

| difficult to know how to be efficient. Luckily, the juicer I got

| finally arrived (Breville 2-speed) and it looks like clean-up is

| going to be a snap. I'm trying to get organized to start the Total

| Body Cleanse.

[Guest guest]

Kelli,

 

Wow - you had a radical change there girl! LOL Very brave and

determined you were. Good deal!

 

I've done the Master Cleanse twice last year. I lost weight the

first time and kept it off. The second time, a month later, I lost

weight but it came back rapidly over 2 days (as fat) once I started

eating again. The second time I came off the diet right, but went to

a Reiki Retreat that weekend and wasn't cooking for myself- which is

always dangerous for me. I wasn't hungry on the fast, but was

missing solid food. Oops! (I exercised through each fast.) That's

made me weary of fasting again. So, I hope the Total Body Cleanse

will help me lose a few more pounds and re-set my body to a lower

set-point. Hate those set-points, they're hard to break. Otherwise,

I'll try the Master Cleanse again in about two months after the TBC.

 

Karen

 

herbal remedies , " Kelli Bever " <kelli@c...>

wrote:

>

> You go!!! That's fantastic! The cleanse is going to be great. Have

you

> done any cleansing before? I did the Total Body Cleanse straight

from a

> know-nothing, eating the Standard American Diet phase of my life.

Whew!!

> The world seems completely different now! LOL!!!

>

> I'm on my fourth body cleanse now. Week 4 and counting!!!

>

> Best,

> Kelli

>

> |

> | zengirl04 [zengirl04]

> | Friday, March 18, 2005 6:47 AM

> | herbal remedies

> | Re: Herbal Remedies - Fasting

> |

> | Thanks Kelli. I didn't know the " degree " of loss and so it was

> | difficult to know how to be efficient. Luckily, the juicer I

got

> | finally arrived (Breville 2-speed) and it looks like clean-up is

> | going to be a snap. I'm trying to get organized to start the

Total

> | Body Cleanse.

[Guest guest]

Hi Karen, Yes, I did change radically! LOL! I've " cheated " a couple

times but each time I've had a very bad food hangover and now I know

that it's not worth it. Gotta stick to all organic, mostly raw, very

little meat or dairy. Oh yeah, gotta exercise! Then everything's fine

and I don't have to buy new pants all the time! LOL!! Let me know how

you do on the cleanse!

 

Best,

Kelli

 

|

| zengirl04 [zengirl04]

| Friday, March 18, 2005 5:04 PM

| herbal remedies

| Re: Herbal Remedies - Fasting

|

| Kelli,

|

| Wow - you had a radical change there girl! LOL Very brave and

| determined you were. Good deal!

[Guest guest]

I will. I've been the Total Nutrition since Christmas and I'm

making the Total Tonic now. I'll probably get the Cleanse formulas

directly from Doc so I don't have to look for all the ingredients

and wait for them to arrive.

 

It seems a little involved, but I want to do the consult with Doc

before I start.

 

 

herbal remedies , " Kelli Bever " <kelli@c...>

wrote:

>

> Hi Karen, Yes, I did change radically! LOL! I've " cheated " a couple

> times but each time I've had a very bad food hangover and now I

know

> that it's not worth it. Gotta stick to all organic, mostly raw,

very

> little meat or dairy. Oh yeah, gotta exercise! Then everything's

fine

> and I don't have to buy new pants all the time! LOL!! Let me know

how

> you do on the cleanse!

>

> Best,

> Kelli

>

> |

> | zengirl04 [zengirl04]

> | Friday, March 18, 2005 5:04 PM

> | herbal remedies

> | Re: Herbal Remedies - Fasting

> |

> | Kelli,

> |

> | Wow - you had a radical change there girl! LOL Very brave and

> | determined you were. Good deal!

[Guest guest]

Hi, I didn't realize you could buy the formulas directly from Doc. I have

done quite a bit of reading on his website and in the files and haven't come

across that yet. Can someone give me a hint where to go to find these

formulas? Thanks, Mary Webber

 

 

 

" zengirl04 " <zengirl04 wrote:

 

>

I will. & nbsp; I've been the Total Nutrition since Christmas and I'm

> making the Total Tonic now. & nbsp; I'll probably get the Cleanse formulas

> directly from Doc so I don't have to look for all the ingredients

> and wait for them to arrive.

>

> It seems a little involved, but I want to do the consult with Doc

> before I start.

>

>

> herbal remedies , & quot;Kelli Bever & quot;

> & lt;kelli@c... & gt;

> wrote:

> & gt;

> & gt; Hi Karen, Yes, I did change radically! LOL! I've & quot;cheated & quot;

a

> couple

> & gt; times but each time I've had a very bad food hangover and now I

> know

> & gt; that it's not worth it. Gotta stick to all organic, mostly raw,

> very

> & gt; little meat or dairy. Oh yeah, gotta exercise! Then everything's

> fine

> & gt; and I don't have to buy new pants all the time! LOL!! Let me know

> how

> & gt; you do on the cleanse!

> & gt;

> & gt; Best,

> & gt; Kelli

> & gt;

> & gt; |

> & gt; | zengirl04 [zengirl04]

> & gt; | Friday, March 18, 2005 5:04 PM

> & gt; | herbal remedies

> & gt; | Re: Herbal Remedies - Fasting

> & gt; |

> & gt; | Kelli,

> & gt; |

> & gt; | Wow - you had a radical change there girl! & nbsp; LOL & nbsp; Very

brave

> and

> & gt; | determined you were. & nbsp; Good deal!

>

>

>

>

Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: & nbsp;

> 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire.

> 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural

> remedy. & nbsp;

> 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and

to

> prescribe for your own health. & nbsp;

> We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as

 

> they behave themselves. & nbsp;

> Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person

 

> following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk.

> It is up to you to educate yourself. & nbsp; By accepting advice or products

from

> list members, you are agreeing to

> be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and

members

> free of any liability.

>

> Dr. Ian Shillington

> Doctor of Naturopathy

> Dr.IanShillington

>

>

 

[Guest guest]

HI Mary,

 

the reason you haven't come across that is that there is no advertising on this list, and that includes Doc himself LOL.

 

However, you can contact him privately and he can help you get the formulas ready made :-)

 

love

Lisa

 

 

-

mlw

herbal remedies

Sunday, March 20, 2005 5:20 PM

Re: Herbal Remedies - Fasting

Hi, I didn't realize you could buy the formulas directly from Doc. I havedone quite a bit of reading on his website and in the files and haven't comeacross that yet. Can someone give me a hint where to go to find theseformulas? Thanks, Mary Webber

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Lisa! No wonder I couldn't find it.

 

 

" Lisa de Haas " <lisa wrote:

 

> HI Mary,

>

> the reason you haven't come across that is that there is no advertising on

this

> list, and that includes Doc himself LOL.

>

> However, you can contact him privately and he can help you get the

formulas

> ready made :-)

>

> love

> Lisa

>

> -

> mlw

> herbal remedies

> Sunday, March 20, 2005 5:20 PM

> Re: Herbal Remedies - Fasting

>

>

>

>

> Hi, I didn't realize you could buy the formulas directly from Doc. I

have

> done quite a bit of reading on his website and in the files and haven't

come

> across that yet. Can someone give me a hint where to go to find these

> formulas? Thanks, Mary Webber

>

 

 

_________

Fidelity Communications Webmail - http://webmail.fidnet.com

[Guest guest]

I really DO appreciate Doc not advertising on this list. But, as a

marketing person he is allowed to advertising his services on his

own website! LOL

 

 

herbal remedies , " Lisa de Haas " <lisa@l...>

wrote:

> HI Mary,

>

> the reason you haven't come across that is that there is no

advertising on this list, and that includes Doc himself LOL.

>

> However, you can contact him privately and he can help you get the

formulas ready made :-)

>

> love

> Lisa

>

> -

> mlw@f...

> herbal remedies

> Sunday, March 20, 2005 5:20 PM

> Re: Herbal Remedies - Fasting

>

>

>

>

> Hi, I didn't realize you could buy the formulas directly from

Doc. I have

> done quite a bit of reading on his website and in the files and

haven't come

> across that yet. Can someone give me a hint where to go to find

these

> formulas? Thanks, Mary Webber

[Guest guest]

Definitely do the consult with Doc. He'll give you lots of good

information. Also, just make yourself a schedule. It definitely seems a

bit complicated at first, but there's a " method to the madness " (LOL!)

and you'll get in the groove soon enough!

 

Best,

Kelli

 

P.S. On my 2nd pass of week 3 and going strong!

 

|

| zengirl04 [zengirl04]

| Saturday, March 19, 2005 5:32 PM

| herbal remedies

| Re: Herbal Remedies - Fasting

|

| I will. I've been the Total Nutrition since Christmas and I'm

| making the Total Tonic now. I'll probably get the Cleanse formulas

| directly from Doc so I don't have to look for all the ingredients

| and wait for them to arrive.

|

| It seems a little involved, but I want to do the consult with Doc

| before I start.

[Guest guest]

You're an inspiration. Thanks Kelli.

 

 

 

herbal remedies , " Kelli Bever " <kelli@c...>

wrote:

>

> Definitely do the consult with Doc. He'll give you lots of good

> information. Also, just make yourself a schedule. It definitely

seems a

> bit complicated at first, but there's a " method to the madness "

(LOL!)

> and you'll get in the groove soon enough!

>

> Best,

> Kelli

>

> P.S. On my 2nd pass of week 3 and going strong!

>

> |

> | zengirl04 [zengirl04]

> | Saturday, March 19, 2005 5:32 PM

> | herbal remedies

> | Re: Herbal Remedies - Fasting

> |

> | I will. I've been the Total Nutrition since Christmas and I'm

> | making the Total Tonic now. I'll probably get the Cleanse

formulas

> | directly from Doc so I don't have to look for all the

ingredients

> | and wait for them to arrive.

> |

> | It seems a little involved, but I want to do the consult with

Doc

> | before I start.

[Guest guest]

Well, thank you! There are some times I don't feel like much of an

inspiration, but when I got it going, I love to share it! LOL!!!

 

Best,

Kelli

 

|

| zengirl04 [zengirl04]

| Monday, March 21, 2005 5:47 PM

| herbal remedies

| Re: Herbal Remedies - Fasting

|

| You're an inspiration. Thanks Kelli.

[Guest guest]

Has he ever fasted before? Suggest a fast from food, but to drink some teas and water just to see how his body reacts. I'm hypoglycemic, but keep it under control. And, actually, the hypoglycemia is effected by what you are doing. Meditation can keep it controlled, as well as being involved in activities that you thoroughly enjoy.

When I fish, I can fish for 12 hours straight with no food of any kind. I've experienced problems once or twice, but very seldom. I just become completely engrossed in watching bottom life on the river, turning over stones and looking at stuff, watching stuff.

But, if hiking, I have to have food every couple of hours. Same as in working. Although I keep that controlled with the foods that I eat.

 

Ed

 

 

-

Elizabeth Otto

Saturday, August 20, 2005 9:53 PM

Fasting

 

Hi everyone!! I have a friend who has hypoglycemia and he wants to fast. Is it possible for him to do this? He wants to fast and then alkaline his body!! Any suggestion? Thanks to all of you wonderful people in advance.

 

Elizabeth S.C."The only difference between doctors and lawyers is that lawyers merely rob you, whereas doctors rob you and kill you, too." -Anton ChekhovDid you know that our bodies have the capabilities to heal through proper nutrition? You need raw wholefoods, hydration, exercise and lots of sunshine. Go to www.naturalhealth4meandu.wholefoodfarmacy.com and start your healthy new life with "Orgonic" Raw Wholefoods!!

 

 

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[Guest guest]

, Elizabeth Otto

<godshealingchild> wrote:

> Hi everyone!! I have a friend who has hypoglycemia and he wants to

fast. Is it possible for him to do this? He wants to fast and then

alkaline his body!! Any suggestion? Thanks to all of you wonderful

people in advance.

>

> Elizabeth S.C.

I would suggest he convert to a highly Alkalizing diet now and get

throug the hypoglycemia .Then consider fasting but consider starting

witha further clenzing process before fasting .

Billy

[Guest guest]

please remind him that this action

could be dangerous

-madalan

 

 

On Behalf Of billy171johnSunday, August 21, 2005 9:32 PM Subject: Re: Fasting , Elizabeth Otto <godshealingchild> wrote:> Hi everyone!! I have a friend who has hypoglycemia and he wants to fast. Is it possible for him to do this? He wants to fast and then alkaline his body!! Any suggestion? Thanks to all of you wonderful people in advance.> > Elizabeth S.C.I would suggest he convert to a highly Alkalizing diet now and get throug the hypoglycemia .Then consider fasting but consider starting witha further clenzing process before fasting .Billy

[Guest guest]

At the very least, anyone contemplating fasting, in the presence of serious sugar metabolism disorders, should first consult with a practitioner that specializes in fasting and fully understands its consequences and potential dangers.

 

-

Alan S. Weisberg

Tuesday, August 23, 2005 3:06 PM

RE: Re: Fasting

 

please remind him that this action

could be dangerous

-madalan

 

 

On Behalf Of billy171johnSunday, August 21, 2005 9:32 PM Subject: Re: Fasting , Elizabeth Otto <godshealingchild> wrote:> Hi everyone!! I have a friend who has hypoglycemia and he wants to fast. Is it possible for him to do this? He wants to fast and then alkaline his body!! Any suggestion? Thanks to all of you wonderful people in advance.> > Elizabeth S.C.I would suggest he convert to a highly Alkalizing diet now and get throug the hypoglycemia .Then consider fasting but consider starting witha further clenzing process before fasting .Billy

 

 

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[Guest guest]

ed

where are you located?

i love lake fishing

 

 

On Behalf Of Ed SiceloffSaturday, August 20, 2005 7:46 PM Subject: Re: Fasting

Has he ever fasted before? Suggest a fast from food, but to drink some teas and water just to see how his body reacts. I'm hypoglycemic, but keep it under control. And, actually, the hypoglycemia is effected by what you are doing. Meditation can keep it controlled, as well as being involved in activities that you thoroughly enjoy.

When I fish, I can fish for 12 hours straight with no food of any kind. I've experienced problems once or twice, but very seldom. I just become completely engrossed in watching bottom life on the river, turning over stones and looking at stuff, watching stuff.

But, if hiking, I have to have food every couple of hours. Same as in working. Although I keep that controlled with the foods that I eat.

 

Ed

 

 

-

Elizabeth Otto

Saturday, August 20, 2005 9:53 PM

Fasting

 

Hi everyone!! I have a friend who has hypoglycemia and he wants to fast. Is it possible for him to do this? He wants to fast and then alkaline his body!! Any suggestion? Thanks to all of you wonderful people in advance.

 

Elizabeth S.C."The only difference between doctors and lawyers is that lawyers merely rob you, whereas doctors rob you and kill you, too." -Anton ChekhovDid you know that our bodies have the capabilities to heal through proper nutrition? You need raw wholefoods, hydration, exercise and lots of sunshine. Go to www.naturalhealth4meandu.wholefoodfarmacy.com and start your healthy new life with "Orgonic" Raw Wholefoods!!

 

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[Guest guest]

I'm on the extreme western border of Pa, down near Pgh. I too like lake fishing. I don't get to go much though. Too many things to do. Time will come around again though.

 

-

Alan S. Weisberg

Saturday, August 27, 2005 4:22 PM

RE: Fasting

 

ed

where are you located?

i love lake fishing

 

 

On Behalf Of Ed SiceloffSaturday, August 20, 2005 7:46 PM Subject: Re: Fasting

Has he ever fasted before? Suggest a fast from food, but to drink some teas and water just to see how his body reacts. I'm hypoglycemic, but keep it under control. And, actually, the hypoglycemia is effected by what you are doing. Meditation can keep it controlled, as well as being involved in activities that you thoroughly enjoy.

When I fish, I can fish for 12 hours straight with no food of any kind. I've experienced problems once or twice, but very seldom. I just become completely engrossed in watching bottom life on the river, turning over stones and looking at stuff, watching stuff.

But, if hiking, I have to have food every couple of hours. Same as in working. Although I keep that controlled with the foods that I eat.

 

Ed

 

 

-

Elizabeth Otto

Saturday, August 20, 2005 9:53 PM

Fasting

 

Hi everyone!! I have a friend who has hypoglycemia and he wants to fast. Is it possible for him to do this? He wants to fast and then alkaline his body!! Any suggestion? Thanks to all of you wonderful people in advance.

 

Elizabeth S.C."The only difference between doctors and lawyers is that lawyers merely rob you, whereas doctors rob you and kill you, too." -Anton ChekhovDid you know that our bodies have the capabilities to heal through proper nutrition? You need raw wholefoods, hydration, exercise and lots of sunshine. Go to www.naturalhealth4meandu.wholefoodfarmacy.com and start your healthy new life with "Orgonic" Raw Wholefoods!!

 

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