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Thank you for those sites. You are quite nurturing

aren't you? Raychel is 13 now and her mom has been

gone two years but she cries about it most nights

still...I am so happy for her that she will probably

go with people who have known her from birth in

Pittsburgh. She's a sweet girl.

 

I am 37 now and noticing how different my face is,

poor me. And my body, metabolism, etc. Seems like 7

years just flew past. That's what happens when you

have kids. I would like to travel to Ca someday.

 

Take care, Kel

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Hi Amelia,

 

As I was looking back through the posts, it seems Dan

has covered all the bases on ascorbates. He is so full

of great information. I always love to read his

opinions and views based on his education and

experience. He is very knowledgable.

 

I'm with Kel, too. I would love to hear how your

appointment with the orthomolecular psychiatrist turns

out. That would be something I might like to do too,

if it works out good for you. The only thing is I

don't have medical insurance! I'm saving up my $85

right now to go see my radiation oncologist for my 6

month check up. I was supposed to go in September!

Shame on me!

 

Blessings, Renee

 

--- Dan <dan_jackowiak wrote:

 

> they are slighty different but close to the same.

> v-c is ascorbic acid. ascorbates are buffered

> minerals.

>

> Amelia Gerlach <ameliagerlach wrote:Is

> ascorbate the same as Vitamin C?

>

>

>

>

> On Behalf

> Of Dan

> Thursday, October 06, 2005 11:44 PM

>

> RE: Renee

>

>

>

> It could quite possibly be, I'm not positive but I

> have a sneaky suspicion since it is responsible for

> so many diseases. I know the b's can contribute for

> sure.

>

> Amelia Gerlach <ameliagerlach wrote:

> Dan, is low ascorbate a contributing factor for

> migraines? I'm actually getting all that checked

> next week.

>

>

>

>

> On Behalf

> Of Dan

> Thursday, October 06, 2005 7:45 PM

>

> RE: Renee

>

>

>

> Amelia

>

> I would be very curious to know what your ascorbate

> levels are? Not what they say is normal, the actual

> levels. mgs per 15 pounds of body weight or

> something like that.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Dan

>

> Amelia Gerlach <ameliagerlach wrote:

> Thanks for the info, Renee. I had never heard of

> oxygen for migraines, but it makes sense. I drink

> oxygenated water, but I'm sure that's a lot

> different. My migraines happen at the same time of

> the month every time.

>

> I wanted to mention to you guys that after reading

> Dr. Gabriel Cousens' book " Depression Free for

> Life " , I decided to go see an orthomolecular

> psychiatrist. I have also been having problems with

> depression lately. She's an M.D. but she believes in

> using natural supplements as much as possible. She

> uses a lot of amino acids, fish oil, etc. but she

> tests you first to see what you're deficient in. She

> does an amino acid assay, vitamin/mineral levels

> test, hormone test (including thyroid panel), etc.

> I'll let you all know how it goes.

>

> Take care,

> Amelia

>

>

>

>

>

> On Behalf

> Of Renee Judkins

> Wednesday, October 05, 2005 2:27 PM

>

> RE: Renee

>

>

>

> Sorry to hear that you have migraines, Amelia. I

> used to get them every two years like clockwork,

> almost to the exact day and hour! They were the

> worst! I couldn't move, have any light or sound, I

> couldn't even cry because it hurt too much. If I had

> to go to the bathroom, I had to literally carry my

> head in my hands because it hurt too much to try to

> hold it up on it's own power. I got the nausea,

> vomitting, the aura, the whole nine yards. Even the

> small movement from breathing was excruciating!

>

> When I worked in the emergency room, people would

> come walking in saying they had a migraine headache.

> I used to think they were lying, because how could

> anyone in that kind of pain " walk " into the ER?! The

> only time I went to the ER with a migraine, my ex

> husband had to carry me to the car and into the ER.

> They gave me demerol which sent my blood pressure

> into a nose dive, but didn't do anything for the

> pain. When I was working and felt the migraine

> coming on, the nurses would hook me up with an

> oxygen tank. The pure oxygen would stop the headache

> dead in it's tracks everytime. I don't know where

> you would get pure oxygen but if you can, that is

> the best relief for a migraine I have ever found.

> Once you have the headache though, it seems next to

> impossible to get up and go to an oxygen bar. And

> keep up the good work on improving your nutrition. I

> haven't had a migraine headache in 13 years now.

> Just trying to help!

>

> Blessings, Renee

>

> Amelia Gerlach <ameliagerlach wrote:

> Renee, thanks so much for the information. I'll look

> at it once my migraine feels better! Amelia

>

>

>

>

> On Behalf

> Of Renee Judkins

> Thursday, September 29, 2005 8:50 PM

>

> Re: Renee

>

>

>

> Thanks for the encouragement, Kel. No need to go

> back through the archives. My website is:

> www.firstfitness.com/thin4life

>

> I hope this depression thing won't continue to be an

> annual occurrence for the rest of my life! I do

> intend to get on the comp alot more often, with the

> kids in school and most of my work with the mental

> health job will be done from home in the new fiscal

> year. I do miss you all when I'm not here!

>

> Blessings, Renee

>

> " Kelly W. " <kellykebby wrote:

> I do also understand depression unfortunately. I

> don't

> have your website url but I can look in the archives

> for it. I hope you feel better soon. You can always

> write me. Congratulations on getting to the 4 year

> mark. That is so wonderful. You have been through so

> much. What a trooper! Love, Kel

>

>

>

>

>

> for Good

> Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief

> effort.

>

>

> for Good

> Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief

> effort.

>

>

> for Good

> Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief

> effort.

>

>

>

> for Good

> Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief

> effort.

>

>

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Renee, I know what you mean about the high cost of taking care of yourself! We are going broke here with all the medical bills, vitamins, etc.! I'll definitely let you all know how it goes with the doctor I'm seeing. She says she thinks part of the reason for my depression (besides the lupus and the stresses associated with having a 17-year-old boy!) is that my serotonin levels are probably too low. She thinks I need to take SAM-e, fish oil tablets, B vitamins, etc. but she'll know more after we do the testing. Take care, Amelia

 

 

On Behalf Of Renee JudkinsFriday, October 07, 2005 8:15 PM Subject: RE: Renee

Hi Amelia,As I was looking back through the posts, it seems Danhas covered all the bases on ascorbates. He is so fullof great information. I always love to read hisopinions and views based on his education andexperience. He is very knowledgable.I'm with Kel, too. I would love to hear how yourappointment with the orthomolecular psychiatrist turnsout. That would be something I might like to do too,if it works out good for you. The only thing is Idon't have medical insurance! I'm saving up my $85right now to go see my radiation oncologist for my 6month check up. I was supposed to go in September!Shame on me!Blessings, Renee--- Dan <dan_jackowiak wrote:> they are slighty different but close to the same.> v-c is ascorbic acid. ascorbates are buffered> minerals.> > Amelia Gerlach <ameliagerlach wrote:Is> ascorbate the same as Vitamin C?> > > > > On Behalf> Of Dan> Thursday, October 06, 2005 11:44 PM> > RE: Renee> > > > It could quite possibly be, I'm not positive but I> have a sneaky suspicion since it is responsible for> so many diseases. I know the b's can contribute for> sure. > > Amelia Gerlach <ameliagerlach wrote:> Dan, is low ascorbate a contributing factor for> migraines? I'm actually getting all that checked> next week.> > > > > On Behalf> Of Dan> Thursday, October 06, 2005 7:45 PM> > RE: Renee> > > > Amelia> > I would be very curious to know what your ascorbate> levels are? Not what they say is normal, the actual> levels. mgs per 15 pounds of body weight or> something like that. > > Thanks,> > Dan> > Amelia Gerlach <ameliagerlach wrote:> Thanks for the info, Renee. I had never heard of> oxygen for migraines, but it makes sense. I drink> oxygenated water, but I'm sure that's a lot> different. My migraines happen at the same time of> the month every time.> > I wanted to mention to you guys that after reading> Dr. Gabriel Cousens' book "Depression Free for> Life", I decided to go see an orthomolecular> psychiatrist. I have also been having problems with> depression lately. She's an M.D. but she believes in> using natural supplements as much as possible. She> uses a lot of amino acids, fish oil, etc. but she> tests you first to see what you're deficient in. She> does an amino acid assay, vitamin/mineral levels> test, hormone test (including thyroid panel), etc.> I'll let you all know how it goes. > > Take care, > Amelia> > > > > > On Behalf> Of Renee Judkins> Wednesday, October 05, 2005 2:27 PM> > RE: Renee> > > > Sorry to hear that you have migraines, Amelia. I> used to get them every two years like clockwork,> almost to the exact day and hour! They were the> worst! I couldn't move, have any light or sound, I> couldn't even cry because it hurt too much. If I had> to go to the bathroom, I had to literally carry my> head in my hands because it hurt too much to try to> hold it up on it's own power. I got the nausea,> vomitting, the aura, the whole nine yards. Even the> small movement from breathing was excruciating! > > When I worked in the emergency room, people would> come walking in saying they had a migraine headache.> I used to think they were lying, because how could> anyone in that kind of pain "walk" into the ER?! The> only time I went to the ER with a migraine, my ex> husband had to carry me to the car and into the ER.> They gave me demerol which sent my blood pressure> into a nose dive, but didn't do anything for the> pain. When I was working and felt the migraine> coming on, the nurses would hook me up with an> oxygen tank. The pure oxygen would stop the headache> dead in it's tracks everytime. I don't know where> you would get pure oxygen but if you can, that is> the best relief for a migraine I have ever found.> Once you have the headache though, it seems next to> impossible to get up and go to an oxygen bar. And> keep up the good work on improving your nutrition. I> haven't had a migraine headache in 13 years now.> Just trying to help!> > Blessings, Renee> > Amelia Gerlach <ameliagerlach wrote:> Renee, thanks so much for the information. I'll look> at it once my migraine feels better! Amelia> > > > > On Behalf> Of Renee Judkins> Thursday, September 29, 2005 8:50 PM> > Re: Renee> > > > Thanks for the encouragement, Kel. No need to go> back through the archives. My website is:> www.firstfitness.com/thin4life> > I hope this depression thing won't continue to be an> annual occurrence for the rest of my life! I do> intend to get on the comp alot more often, with the> kids in school and most of my work with the mental> health job will be done from home in the new fiscal> year. I do miss you all when I'm not here!> > Blessings, Renee> > "Kelly W." <kellykebby wrote:> I do also understand depression unfortunately. I> don't> have your website url but I can look in the archives> for it. I hope you feel better soon. You can always> write me. Congratulations on getting to the 4 year> mark. That is so wonderful. You have been through so> much. What a trooper! Love, Kel> > > > > > for Good> Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief> effort. > > > for Good> Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief> effort. > > > for Good> Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief> effort. > > > > for Good> Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief> effort. > >

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Hi Amelia,

 

Baked potatoes are good for producing seratonin, as is dark chocolate in small amounts. Keep in mind that potatoes (and chocolate) have a very high glycemic index. So you have to balance the "sugars". Potatoes are also high in vitamin C and potassium, so they are healthy, despite the high glycemic index.

 

Blessings, ReneeAmelia Gerlach <ameliagerlach wrote:

 

Renee, I know what you mean about the high cost of taking care of yourself! We are going broke here with all the medical bills, vitamins, etc.! I'll definitely let you all know how it goes with the doctor I'm seeing. She says she thinks part of the reason for my depression (besides the lupus and the stresses associated with having a 17-year-old boy!) is that my serotonin levels are probably too low. She thinks I need to take SAM-e, fish oil tablets, B vitamins, etc. but she'll know more after we do the testing. Take care, Amelia

 

 

On Behalf Of Renee JudkinsFriday, October 07, 2005 8:15 PM Subject: RE: Renee

Hi Amelia,As I was looking back through the posts, it seems Danhas covered all the bases on ascorbates. He is so fullof great information. I always love to read hisopinions and views based on his education andexperience. He is very knowledgable.I'm with Kel, too. I would love to hear how yourappointment with the orthomolecular psychiatrist turnsout. That would be something I might like to do too,if it works out good for you. The only thing is Idon't have medical insurance! I'm saving up my $85right now to go see my radiation oncologist for my 6month check up. I was supposed to go in September!Shame on me!Blessings, Renee--- Dan <dan_jackowiak wrote:> they are slighty different but close to the same.> v-c is ascorbic acid. ascorbates are buffered> minerals.> > Amelia Gerlach <ameliagerlach wrote:Is> ascorbate the

same as Vitamin C?> > > > > On Behalf> Of Dan> Thursday, October 06, 2005 11:44 PM> > RE: Renee> > > > It could quite possibly be, I'm not positive but I> have a sneaky suspicion since it is responsible for> so many diseases. I know the b's can contribute for> sure. > > Amelia Gerlach <ameliagerlach wrote:> Dan, is low ascorbate a contributing factor for> migraines? I'm actually getting all that checked> next week.> > > > > On Behalf> Of Dan> Thursday, October 06, 2005 7:45

PM> > RE: Renee> > > > Amelia> > I would be very curious to know what your ascorbate> levels are? Not what they say is normal, the actual> levels. mgs per 15 pounds of body weight or> something like that. > > Thanks,> > Dan> > Amelia Gerlach <ameliagerlach wrote:> Thanks for the info, Renee. I had never heard of> oxygen for migraines, but it makes sense. I drink> oxygenated water, but I'm sure that's a lot> different. My migraines happen at the same time of> the month every time.> > I wanted to mention to you guys that after reading> Dr. Gabriel Cousens' book "Depression Free for> Life", I decided to go see an orthomolecular> psychiatrist. I have also been having problems with>

depression lately. She's an M.D. but she believes in> using natural supplements as much as possible. She> uses a lot of amino acids, fish oil, etc. but she> tests you first to see what you're deficient in. She> does an amino acid assay, vitamin/mineral levels> test, hormone test (including thyroid panel), etc.> I'll let you all know how it goes. > > Take care, > Amelia> > > > > > On Behalf> Of Renee Judkins> Wednesday, October 05, 2005 2:27 PM> > RE: Renee> > > > Sorry to hear that you have migraines, Amelia. I> used to get them every two years like clockwork,> almost to the exact day and hour! They were the>

worst! I couldn't move, have any light or sound, I> couldn't even cry because it hurt too much. If I had> to go to the bathroom, I had to literally carry my> head in my hands because it hurt too much to try to> hold it up on it's own power. I got the nausea,> vomitting, the aura, the whole nine yards. Even the> small movement from breathing was excruciating! > > When I worked in the emergency room, people would> come walking in saying they had a migraine headache.> I used to think they were lying, because how could> anyone in that kind of pain "walk" into the ER?! The> only time I went to the ER with a migraine, my ex> husband had to carry me to the car and into the ER.> They gave me demerol which sent my blood pressure> into a nose dive, but didn't do anything for the> pain. When I was working and felt the migraine> coming on, the nurses would hook me up with

an> oxygen tank. The pure oxygen would stop the headache> dead in it's tracks everytime. I don't know where> you would get pure oxygen but if you can, that is> the best relief for a migraine I have ever found.> Once you have the headache though, it seems next to> impossible to get up and go to an oxygen bar. And> keep up the good work on improving your nutrition. I> haven't had a migraine headache in 13 years now.> Just trying to help!> > Blessings, Renee> > Amelia Gerlach <ameliagerlach wrote:> Renee, thanks so much for the information. I'll look> at it once my migraine feels better! Amelia> > > > > On Behalf> Of Renee Judkins> Thursday, September 29, 2005 8:50 PM> To:

> Re: Renee> > > > Thanks for the encouragement, Kel. No need to go> back through the archives. My website is:> www.firstfitness.com/thin4life> > I hope this depression thing won't continue to be an> annual occurrence for the rest of my life! I do> intend to get on the comp alot more often, with the> kids in school and most of my work with the mental> health job will be done from home in the new fiscal> year. I do miss you all when I'm not here!> > Blessings, Renee> > "Kelly W." <kellykebby wrote:> I do also understand depression unfortunately. I> don't> have your website url but I can look in the archives> for it. I hope you feel better soon. You can always> write me. Congratulations on getting to the 4 year> mark. That is so

wonderful. You have been through so> much. What a trooper! Love, Kel> > > > > > for Good> Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief> effort. > > > for Good> Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief> effort. > > > for Good> Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief> effort. > > > > for Good> Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief> effort. > >

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Thanks, Renee. It's funny, because I really crave both potatoes and chocolate!

 

 

On Behalf Of Renee JudkinsMonday, October 10, 2005 8:42 PM Subject: RE: Renee

 

Hi Amelia,

 

Baked potatoes are good for producing seratonin, as is dark chocolate in small amounts. Keep in mind that potatoes (and chocolate) have a very high glycemic index. So you have to balance the "sugars". Potatoes are also high in vitamin C and potassium, so they are healthy, despite the high glycemic index.

 

Blessings, ReneeAmelia Gerlach <ameliagerlach wrote:

 

Renee, I know what you mean about the high cost of taking care of yourself! We are going broke here with all the medical bills, vitamins, etc.! I'll definitely let you all know how it goes with the doctor I'm seeing. She says she thinks part of the reason for my depression (besides the lupus and the stresses associated with having a 17-year-old boy!) is that my serotonin levels are probably too low. She thinks I need to take SAM-e, fish oil tablets, B vitamins, etc. but she'll know more after we do the testing. Take care, Amelia

 

 

On Behalf Of Renee JudkinsFriday, October 07, 2005 8:15 PM Subject: RE: Renee

Hi Amelia,As I was looking back through the posts, it seems Danhas covered all the bases on ascorbates. He is so fullof great information. I always love to read hisopinions and views based on his education andexperience. He is very knowledgable.I'm with Kel, too. I would love to hear how yourappointment with the orthomolecular psychiatrist turnsout. That would be something I might like to do too,if it works out good for you. The only thing is Idon't have medical insurance! I'm saving up my $85right now to go see my radiation oncologist for my 6month check up. I was supposed to go in September!Shame on me!Blessings, Renee--- Dan <dan_jackowiak wrote:> they are slighty different but close to the same.> v-c is ascorbic acid. ascorbates are buffered> minerals.> > Amelia Gerlach <ameliagerlach wrote:Is> ascorbate the same as Vitamin C?> > > > > On Behalf> Of Dan> Thursday, October 06, 2005 11:44 PM> > RE: Renee> > > > It could quite possibly be, I'm not positive but I> have a sneaky suspicion since it is responsible for> so many diseases. I know the b's can contribute for> sure. > > Amelia Gerlach <ameliagerlach wrote:> Dan, is low ascorbate a contributing factor for> migraines? I'm actually getting all that checked> next week.> > > > > On Behalf> Of Dan> Thursday, October 06, 2005 7:45 PM> > RE: Renee> > > > Amelia> > I would be very curious to know what your ascorbate> levels are? Not what they say is normal, the actual> levels. mgs per 15 pounds of body weight or> something like that. > > Thanks,> > Dan> > Amelia Gerlach <ameliagerlach wrote:> Thanks for the info, Renee. I had never heard of> oxygen for migraines, but it makes sense. I drink> oxygenated water, but I'm sure that's a lot> different. My migraines happen at the same time of> the month every time.> > I wanted to mention to you guys that after reading> Dr. Gabriel Cousens' book "Depression Free for> Life", I decided to go see an orthomolecular> psychiatrist. I have also been having problems with> depression lately. She's an M.D. but she believes in> using natural supplements as much as possible. She> uses a lot of amino acids, fish oil, etc. but she> tests you first to see what you're deficient in. She> does an amino acid assay, vitamin/mineral levels> test, hormone test (including thyroid panel), etc.> I'll let you all know how it goes. > > Take care, > Amelia> > > > > > On Behalf> Of Renee Judkins> Wednesday, October 05, 2005 2:27 PM> > RE: Renee> > > > Sorry to hear that you have migraines, Amelia. I> used to get them every two years like clockwork,> almost to the exact day and hour! They were the> worst! I couldn't move, have any light or sound, I> couldn't even cry because it hurt too much. If I had> to go to the bathroom, I had to literally carry my> head in my hands because it hurt too much to try to> hold it up on it's own power. I got the nausea,> vomitting, the aura, the whole nine yards. Even the> small movement from breathing was excruciating! > > When I worked in the emergency room, people would> come walking in saying they had a migraine headache.> I used to think they were lying, because how could> anyone in that kind of pain "walk" into the ER?! The> only time I went to the ER with a migraine, my ex> husband had to carry me to the car and into the ER.> They gave me demerol which sent my blood pressure> into a nose dive, but didn't do anything for the> pain. When I was working and felt the migraine> coming on, the nurses would hook me up with an> oxygen tank. The pure oxygen would stop the headache> dead in it's tracks everytime. I don't know where> you would get pure oxygen but if you can, that is> the best relief for a migraine I have ever found.> Once you have the headache though, it seems next to> impossible to get up and go to an oxygen bar. And> keep up the good work on improving your nutrition. I> haven't had a migraine headache in 13 years now.> Just trying to help!> > Blessings, Renee> > Amelia Gerlach <ameliagerlach wrote:> Renee, thanks so much for the information. I'll look> at it once my migraine feels better! Amelia> > > > > On Behalf> Of Renee Judkins> Thursday, September 29, 2005 8:50 PM> > Re: Renee> > > > Thanks for the encouragement, Kel. No need to go> back through the archives. My website is:> www.firstfitness.com/thin4life> > I hope this depression thing won't continue to be an> annual occurrence for the rest of my life! I do> intend to get on the comp alot more often, with the> kids in school and most of my work with the mental> health job will be done from home in the new fiscal> year. I do miss you all when I'm not here!> > Blessings, Renee> > "Kelly W." <kellykebby wrote:> I do also understand depression unfortunately. I> don't> have your website url but I can look in the archives> for it. I hope you feel better soon. You can always> write me. Congratulations on getting to the 4 year> mark. That is so wonderful. You have been through so> much. What a trooper! Love, Kel> > > > > > for Good> Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief> effort. > > > for Good> Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief> effort. > > > for Good> Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief> effort. > > > > for Good> Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief> effort. > >

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