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" isis isis " <isismoonisis

 

Friday, October 06, 2000 10:09 AM

Sleeping problems

 

 

>

> Hi,

> I often have sleeping problems

> and my current one is that I go

> to sleep at 11 and wake up at

> 5:30, stay awake til 7, then fall

> asleep til 10 again. I would LOVE

> to sleep through the night. Does

> anyone have any ideas or

> suggestions? Today I'm trying

> to not go back to bed no matter

> how much my eyes start shutting.

>

> Isis

 

Dear Isis;

 

There are probably many people who would consider 6 1/2 hours of sleep a

good night's rest. Is it possible that this is the amount of sleep that

your body requires?

 

Would you feel refreshed if you got up at 7 and began your day with a

nourishing breakfast and some exercise?

 

Are you taking any medications or supplements that might interfere with your

normal sleep patterns?

 

Have you considered melatonin as a way to regulate your sleep cycle?

Meditation or self-hypnosis? Some warm milk or herbal tea before bedtime?

 

What, if anything, happens in your immediate area at 7AM? Are you awakened

by sunlight? The sound of roommates or neighbors beginning their day? Cars

or garbage trucks?? Maybe if you can identify the source of your early

morning awakening, you can take the proper steps to make your bedroom a more

peaceful, quieter, darker, (whatever you need), space.

 

What do YOU think that you need in order to get the best night's sleep you

can?

 

Hope these questions help you to find some answers.

 

Florie

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Hi Isis,

Florie gave you some excellent feedback about your entire

sleeping condition per se. Much to contemplate there. I have

read that adults actually need 7 - 8 hours of sleep per night.

This is reduced with aging. The fundamental question I would

ask myself is - how do I feel after this, ie your amount of sleep?

If the answer is not well I would highly recommend MELATONIN.

You can read all about it on the net. My sleeping pattern as

well became too short or too shallow and it affected my entire

following day. Melatonin changed that completely. After I first took

it I slept as I used to when I was 20. Deep and refreshing.

Consider it and happy zzzzzzzzzzzzzz : )

best,

Maya

 

 

On Fri, 6 Oct 2000 07:09:16 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

 

>

> Hi,

> I often have sleeping problems

> and my current one is that I go

> to sleep at 11 and wake up at

> 5:30, stay awake til 7, then fall

> asleep til 10 again. I would LOVE

> to sleep through the night. Does

> anyone have any ideas or

> suggestions? Today I'm trying

> to not go back to bed no matter

> how much my eyes start shutting.

>

> Isis

>

>

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Isis

Chamamile tea may help. You may also want to drink some warm milk about

half-hour before you go to bed. Milk has calcium and calcium has a relaxing

effect on us...Or listen to a nice tape of quiet music or meditation tape.

Cathy

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All great ideas, Isis, making love is another one : )

Maya

 

 

On Fri, 6 Oct 2000 20:40:07 EDT, wrote:

 

> Isis

> Chamamile tea may help. You may also want to drink some warm milk

about

> half-hour before you go to bed. Milk has calcium and calcium has a

relaxing

> effect on us...Or listen to a nice tape of quiet music or meditation

tape.

> Cathy

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Are there any chinese herbalists on the list who could tell me which hours

rule which organs? Maybe a dis-ease in a particular organ/s is waking you

up? I also find myself awake in the wee, small hours but now use the time

to meditate and practise reiki on myself.

Love and Light, Ninox

 

 

Hi,

I often have sleeping problems

and my current one is that I go

to sleep at 11 and wake up at

5:30, stay awake til 7, then fall

asleep til 10 again. I would LOVE

to sleep through the night. Does

anyone have any ideas or

suggestions? .

 

Isis

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  • 2 years later...

Try tai chi, moon qi gong, and soak feet in warm water prior to

retiring for the night. Advice patient to not lose any sleep over

insomnia.

 

Another option is to do pattern differentiation and prescribe

accordingly.

 

fernando

Chinese Medicine , " CHRISTOPHER "

<chris_schamber> wrote:

> Does anyone have any information on specific remedies for sleeping

> disfunction, insomnia, stress, and mind calming therapies?

> Thank You

>

> Savage Sun

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Of course the first course of action is to do a complete intake to

determine the appropriate pattern, and treat accordingly. Just like

there are many types of headache, there are also many types of insomnia,

with many different treatments. Some obvious easy steps are to needle

ear shen men, and Anmian. Also, many find benefit from roibbos tea

(from South Africa) for insomnia when other remedies don't seem to help.

BUT AGAIN, CM TREATS INSOMNIA VERY WELL WHEN IT'S DIFFERENTIATED

PROPERLY.

 

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I was taught to sit and knead on Kidney 1 with thumb or middle

finger. I often have trouble getting to sleep and I find rubbing my

face and around the orbits (up out and around, then reverse, good

firm pressure)also seems to work well. If those don't work, my

partner, who is also an acupuncturist, needles yin tang and Ht 7 and

I'm out!

 

I've also learned that needling K 6 and UB 62 is very powerful -

Tonify K 6 (opening and reinforcing yin qiao mai) and reduce UB 62

(drawing on the full energy of yang qiao mai)- this treatment is

for " closing the eyes " - for somnolence or excessive sleeping, do the

opposite.

 

Of course, as Fernando says, you gotta do the proper pattern

identification.

 

Chinese Medicine , " fernando b. "

<fbernall@a...> wrote:

> Try tai chi, moon qi gong, and soak feet in warm water prior to

> retiring for the night. Advice patient to not lose any sleep over

> insomnia.

>

> Another option is to do pattern differentiation and prescribe

> accordingly.

>

> fernando

> Chinese Medicine , " CHRISTOPHER "

> <chris_schamber> wrote:

> > Does anyone have any information on specific remedies for

sleeping

> > disfunction, insomnia, stress, and mind calming therapies?

> > Thank You

> >

> > Savage Sun

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In a message dated 8/10/2003 8:57:15 PM Pacific Standard Time, writes:

 

 

Also, many find benefit from roibbos tea

(from South Africa) for insomnia when other remedies don't seem to help.

 

 

I personally find rooibos tea stimulating. Maybe mine has caffeine. Also, try the insomnia ear points (see Terry Oleson's book). I like to do Shimien in addition to Anmien. That is a point on the sole of the foot. If you divide the sole into thirds and Kid 1 is at the border of the 1st and 2nd thirds, Shimien is about at the border of the 2nd and 3rd thirds. Sprinkling pillow with lavendar oil and/or chamomile oil helps. Ht7, getting some aerobic exercise during the day. New age music, gad I could go on and on. I'm the relaxation/sleep queen. Never had a problem sleeping!

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try some of the folowing they may asist.

1. co4 & liv 3 with ear shen men. very powerful

relaxant. you must get de qi.

2. a warm glas of milk

3. a good masage followed by a hot shower. then go to

sleep staright away.

4. someone masaging the legs - feet, calf m, & thigh

m. a hard massage especially if they are sore.

5. some deep breathing exercises may help.\

6. meditation may be useful if you have done it in the

past. please do not start meditation for sleep.

good luck

anand

 

 

--- " fernando b. " <fbernall

wrote: > Try tai chi, moon qi gong, and soak feet in

warm

> water prior to

> retiring for the night. Advice patient to not lose

> any sleep over

> insomnia.

>

> Another option is to do pattern differentiation and

> prescribe

> accordingly.

>

> fernando

> Chinese Medicine ,

> " CHRISTOPHER "

> <chris_schamber> wrote:

> > Does anyone have any information on specific

> remedies for sleeping

> > disfunction, insomnia, stress, and mind calming

> therapies?

> > Thank You

> >

> > Savage Sun

>

>

 

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This may seem elementary, have you tried using P6?

I have been treating a women for an old neck trauma who also has insomia troubles (insomnia is not due to pain). I used P6 weekly and immediately she began waking less. The improvements have only continued. She has shared that she feels more energized and sleeps more deeply than she can remember doing for a long time.

 

P6 .... it's a good one.

 

Maya

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In a message dated 8/12/2003 11:07:02 AM Pacific Standard Time, YinTangSong writes:

 

 

This may seem elementary, have you tried using P6?

I have been treating a women for an old neck trauma who also has insomia troubles (insomnia is not due to pain). I used P6 weekly and immediately she began waking less. The improvements have only continued. She has shared that she feels more energized and sleeps more deeply than she can remember doing for a long time.

 

I sent this email off a bit too quickly .... I meant to say, "her insomnia is not due to pain"

 

M~

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In a message dated 8/10/03 8:45:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

chris_schamber writes:

Does anyone have any information on specific remedies for sleeping

disfunction, insomnia, stress, and mind calming therapies?

Thank You

 

Savage Sun

Did this get answered??

 

Bobbi

 

 

 

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Right on Doc

 

Although cookbook approach is workable IF we know what we are dealing with.

 

Insomnia can be from many pathways.

 

Let's see how many patterns/reasons we can come up with....and I am sure this

is a pretty good list but far from complete list. Makes one wonder.

 

Richard

 

liver yang hyperactivity

depressed liver qi

depressed liver qi with blood stasis in chest

depressed liver qi with liver vacuity

depressed liver qi with liver qi ascent

bl;ood-vacuity

middle burner vacuity

damp accumulation with depressed fire

caused by fright

gallbladder-stomach disharmony

heart-heat with middle burner vacuity

heart-kidney vacuity

heart qi vacuity with depressed liver qi

heart-spleen vacuity

heart-yin and liver-blood vacuity

three burner heat

heat-water binding

excess liver yang with liver wind ascent

kidney and essence vacuity

liver-kidney vacuity

liver qi depression and heart qi vacuity

menopausal

menstrual irregularity

postpartum

qi, blood, jin-ye vacuity

shao yang pattern

stomach qi disharmony

stomach qi vacuity and weakness

vacuity taxation

yin-vacuity ascent of liver yang

yin vacuity effulgent fire

yin-yang vacuity with lower burner cold

 

> Hi,

> I am uneasy about this type of cookbook aproach. It would seem to me that

> first one must know at least the pulse and tongue picture as well as the

> overall symptom picture.

>

> Without knowing the type of pattern we arte looking at we have no real way

> of prescribibg a formula.

>

> Doc

 

 

 

 

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A lack of amino acids can cause unrest in your system.

Taurine is supposed to be calming it helps to reduce anxiety.

If it makes you sleepy take it at night. 5-htp is to help

increase sleep and lift mood.

 

I recently had work done on my kidney meridian and couldn't

belive how much restful my sleep is now. I think I needed

a little of both.

 

Liz D.

 

 

Chinese Medicine , bobbiaqua@a...

wrote:

> In a message dated 8/10/03 8:45:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

> chris_schamber writes:

> Does anyone have any information on specific remedies for sleeping

> disfunction, insomnia, stress, and mind calming therapies?

> Thank You

>

> Savage Sun

> Did this get answered??

>

> Bobbi

>

>

>

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Hi,

I am uneasy about this type of cookbook aproach. It would seem to me that first

one must know at least the pulse and tongue picture as well as the overall

symptom picture.

 

Without knowing the type of pattern we arte looking at we have no real way of

prescribibg a formula.

 

Doc

 

" If the question begins with * What if* the answer always begins *It depends* "

WFR / StreetMedic Trainer addage

 

elizdettrey <Rabbitbrain wrote:

A lack of amino acids can cause unrest in your system.

Taurine is supposed to be calming it helps to reduce anxiety.

If it makes you sleepy take it at night. 5-htp is to help

increase sleep and lift mood.

 

I recently had work done on my kidney meridian and couldn't

belive how much restful my sleep is now. I think I needed

a little of both.

 

Liz D.

 

 

Chinese Medicine , bobbiaqua@a...

wrote:

> In a message dated 8/10/03 8:45:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

> chris_schamber writes:

> Does anyone have any information on specific remedies for sleeping

> disfunction, insomnia, stress, and mind calming therapies?

> Thank You

>

> Savage Sun

> Did this get answered??

>

> Bobbi

>

>

>

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....and good Tx for one is anethma for another

Doc

 

acudoc11 wrote:

Right on Doc

 

Although cookbook approach is workable IF we know what we are dealing with.

 

Insomnia can be from many pathways.

 

Let's see how many patterns/reasons we can come up with....and I am sure this

is a pretty good list but far from complete list. Makes one wonder.

 

Richard

 

liver yang hyperactivity

depressed liver qi

depressed liver qi with blood stasis in chest

depressed liver qi with liver vacuity

depressed liver qi with liver qi ascent

bl;ood-vacuity

middle burner vacuity

damp accumulation with depressed fire

caused by fright

gallbladder-stomach disharmony

heart-heat with middle burner vacuity

heart-kidney vacuity

heart qi vacuity with depressed liver qi

heart-spleen vacuity

heart-yin and liver-blood vacuity

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Tylenol PM

:))

Sorry but I will be anonymous.

>>>

 

 

 

--- bobbiaqua wrote:

> In a message dated 8/10/03 8:45:35 PM Eastern

> Daylight Time,

> chris_schamber writes:

> Does anyone have any information on specific

> remedies for sleeping

> disfunction, insomnia, stress, and mind calming

> therapies?

> Thank You

>

> Savage Sun

> Did this get answered??

>

> Bobbi

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Ia m not sure who post tylenol PM , but that is a

disgrace to the entire TCM group.

But I would add , per6/Ht 7 smooth stimulation, and a

good 2 tablets of valerian will dream you out.

Vanessa

 

 

-- bobbiaqua wrote:

> In a message dated 8/10/03 8:45:35 PM Eastern

> Daylight Time,

> chris_schamber writes:

> Does anyone have any information on specific

> remedies for sleeping

> disfunction, insomnia, stress, and mind calming

> therapies?

> Thank You

>

> Savage Sun

> Did this get answered??

>

> Bobbi

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

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for many folks Valerian causes nightmares and other dream disturbances

 

and can name many syndromes for which P6 H7 will not work

 

Doc

 

<vbirang wrote:

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Ia m not sure who post tylenol PM , but that is a

disgrace to the entire TCM group.

But I would add , per6/Ht 7 smooth stimulation, and a

good 2 tablets of valerian will dream you out.

Vanessa

 

 

-- bobbiaqua wrote:

> In a message dated 8/10/03 8:45:35 PM Eastern

> Daylight Time,

> chris_schamber writes:

> Does anyone have any information on specific

> remedies for sleeping

> disfunction, insomnia, stress, and mind calming

> therapies?

> Thank You

>

> Savage Sun

> Did this get answered??

>

> Bobbi

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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That's a pretty comprehensive list Richard has provided. I doubt this will

add to it but you may find something in the detail. It is from Vol3 of the

" Advanced Textbook of Traditional and Pharmacology " page

109 which I have scanned for interest. Is this volume recommended in the MDX

reading list ? I know Vol1 is on the reading list but Vols2-4 do not have an

alphabetical index and are not much good for reference purposes, albeit they

are a good source of information.

 

Since insomnia can be caused by deficiency or excess, and may originate in

the Kidney, Spleen or Liver, or Heart it would be highly inadvisable to

prescribe a 'cookbook' remedy such as valerian without further

investigation. Sometimes even powerful PoM medications like temazepam can

make the insomnia condition worse ! [ Perhaps the unpredictability of

temazepam is why it is listed as a Class C Drug in the UK with a 5 year

sentence for supplying - but I digress]. Sammy.

 

XII. Insomnia 109-iii7-80005-296-6

 

 

 

Insomnia means the inability to have a normal sleep. Mild insomnia includes

the difficulty in falling asleep, shallow sleep, difficulty to resume sleep

once waking up, and sometimes asleep, sometimes awake. Severe insomnia

refers to the inability to fall asleep for the whole night.

 

 

 

As early as in Basic Questions, it says, " Disharmony of the stomach leads to

insomnia. " In the Synopsis of Prescriptions of the Golden Chamber, it

explains that insomnia is due to the deficiency caused by overwork or

anxiety. A Complete Collection of Jingyue's Treatise elaborates the causes

of insomnia.

 

 

 

Insomnia may appear alone or in combination with other symptoms, such as

headache, dizziness, palpitation and poor memory. It is commoniy seen as

neurosis and climacteric syndromes in modern medicine.

 

 

 

Etiology and Pathogenesis

 

 

 

1. Damage of the Heart and Spleen due to Strain and Stress

 

 

 

Damage of the heart causes the consumption of yin blood, resulting in

wandering of the mind. Damage of the spleen affects the appetite, therefore,

the heart is deprived of nourishment, and insomnia ensues.

 

 

 

2. Disharmony Between the Heart and Kidneys due to the Imbalance of Yin and

Yang

 

 

 

With people congenitally weak and those after a protracted illness, their

kidney yin is too deficient to nourish the heart. Therefore, the heart fire

or heart yang becomes hyperactive. Emotional upsets directly lead to

hyperactivity of heart fire, which cannot coordinate with kidney water.

Hyperactive heart fire caused by the disharmony between the heart and

kidneys interferes with the mind, resulting in insomnia.

 

 

 

3. Disturbance of Liver Yang and Fire due to Yin Deficiency

 

 

 

Emotional upsets impair the renal function and cause liver qi-stagnation,

which then turns into fire. Deficiency of yin leads to hyperactivity of

yang, which interferes with the mind, resulting in insomnia.

 

 

 

4. Timidity due to Heart Deficiency

 

 

 

Being timid, indecisive, and easily frightened can all lead to insomnia. In

addition, nervousness , caused by sudden fright can also gradually develop

into insomnia.

 

 

 

5. Disturbance of Stomach Qi

 

 

 

Improper diet damages the intestines and stomach, and causes retention of

food, which produces phlegm-heat. Retained phlegm-heat in the middle jiao

disturbs stomach qi, resulting in insomnia. There are many causes of

insomnia, but most of them are related to the heart, spleen, liver, kidneys,

and yin blood-deficiency. The pathogenesis is the disharmony between

hyperactive yang and insufficient yin.

 

 

 

Distinction and treatment

 

 

 

Insomnia is of two types, the deficiency and excess. Deficiency syndromes

result from yin blood deficiency, for which the heart, spleen, liver and

kidneys are responsible. The treatment for this is benefiting qi, nourishing

blood and strengthening the liver and kidneys. Excess syndromes are caused

by liver qi-stagnation which turns into fire, and food retention which

results in turbid phlegm. They are dealt with by promoting digestion,

harmonizing the middle jiao, dispersing heat in the heart and resolving

phlegm. Protracted excess syndromes may change into the deficiency

syndromes. When treating cases complicated by both the deficiency and

excess, the method of strengthening the body resistance and eliminating

pathogenic factors should be used in combination.

 

 

 

 

 

 

acudoc11 [acudoc11]

29 August 2003 05:11

Chinese Medicine

Re: Sleeping Problems

 

 

Right on Doc

 

Although cookbook approach is workable IF we know what we are dealing

with.

 

Insomnia can be from many pathways.

 

Let's see how many patterns/reasons we can come up with....and I am sure

this

is a pretty good list but far from complete list. Makes one wonder.

 

Richard

 

liver yang hyperactivity

depressed liver qi

depressed liver qi with blood stasis in chest

depressed liver qi with liver vacuity

depressed liver qi with liver qi ascent

bl;ood-vacuity

middle burner vacuity

damp accumulation with depressed fire

caused by fright

gallbladder-stomach disharmony

heart-heat with middle burner vacuity

heart-kidney vacuity

heart qi vacuity with depressed liver qi

heart-spleen vacuity

heart-yin and liver-blood vacuity

three burner heat

heat-water binding

excess liver yang with liver wind ascent

kidney and essence vacuity

liver-kidney vacuity

liver qi depression and heart qi vacuity

menopausal

menstrual irregularity

postpartum

qi, blood, jin-ye vacuity

shao yang pattern

stomach qi disharmony

stomach qi vacuity and weakness

vacuity taxation

yin-vacuity ascent of liver yang

yin vacuity effulgent fire

yin-yang vacuity with lower burner cold

 

> Hi,

> I am uneasy about this type of cookbook aproach. It would seem to me

that

> first one must know at least the pulse and tongue picture as well as the

> overall symptom picture.

>

> Without knowing the type of pattern we arte looking at we have no real

way

> of prescribibg a formula.

>

> Doc

 

 

 

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But I would add , per6/Ht 7 smooth stimulation, and a

good 2 tablets of valerian will dream you out.

Vanessa

 

Actually, Valerian is a very interesting herb in this regard especially

considering the list of potential causes Richard describes. I found the

following reference a while ago:

 

Thermal qual:. Warm

Taste: Spicy, slightly sweet, slightly bitter

Meridians Entered: Ht, Lu, Sp

Functions: Regulates Qi Stagnation

Calms Shen

Tonifies Yin

Relieves Heart and Kidney Yin Deficiency

Clears Yin Deficiency Heat

 

Cautions: Should be used intermittently or as 10 % component of a formula

Contraindicated in Excess Heat conditions

 

http://www.herbalists.on.ca/resources/freeman/VALERIAN.html

 

I wonder if therefore an adverse reaction to it could suggest excess heat as

opposed to deficiency heat? One of the hardest things I have found to find

is information on adverse responses - within TCM they must tell us something

about the nature of the condition surely?

 

It worked a treat for me when herbs prescribed produced some kind of

unidentified heat/over-stimulation, but after an initially excellent

response, made my horse worse.

 

I also found the following rather OTT reference this morning:

http://tcm.health-info.org/Western%20herbs/western-herbs/valerian.htm

 

Jackie

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Ok folkies so what will be the protocol prescription or solution??

Allot of talk not enough walk :))

Vanessa

>>

Doc <drdrdoc wrote:

for many folks Valerian causes nightmares and other dream disturbances

 

and can name many syndromes for which P6 H7 will not work

 

Doc

 

wrote:

-

 

 

Ia m not sure who post tylenol PM , but that is a

disgrace to the entire TCM group.

But I would add , per6/Ht 7 smooth stimulation, and a

good 2 tablets of valerian will dream you out.

Vanessa

 

 

-- bobbiaqua wrote:

> In a message dated 8/10/03 8:45:35 PM Eastern

> Daylight Time,

> chris_schamber writes:

> Does anyone have any information on specific

> remedies for sleeping

> disfunction, insomnia, stress, and mind calming

> therapies?

> Thank You

>

> Savage Sun

> Did this get answered??

>

> Bobbi

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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This is as with many over simplified names for and of symptoms, that seem the

same but actually have a wide/varied range and of causes - such as seen in

constipation. The 'usual thought' is that a person misses moving their bowels

for 1 plus days. Then there is the category of number of times

evacuating....which sometimes is meaningless such as when it is too loose or too

sticky. Cons

tipation also covers when it is hard to evacuate and/or when the feces comes out

in hard balls.

 

Another common sympton is sciatica. There is NOT just one cause. There are at

least seven different patterns often many overlapping as in complex patterns.

 

So the order of the day should always be diagnosis, diagnosis, diagnosis.

 

We should be careful NOT to apply these modalities in an allopathic-way. One

can easily get into the poor habit of prescribing herbs as a palliative to

relieve the symptom. Better than drugs? Absolutely but it will go nowhere to

returning balance to the body systems. Sometimes it is necessary but best

applied

within the context of diagnosis. All too often we hear.....'take this for that

symptom'....and that is NOT the practice of Chinese medicine although one

might even be using chinese herbs.

 

Now that's not to say that it is necessarily bad or harmful to do

that.......it's just that it is NOT the practice of Chinese medicine.

 

Richard

 

 

 

 

> That's a pretty comprehensive list Richard has provided. I doubt this will

> add to it but you may find something in the detail. It is from Vol3 of the

> " Advanced Textbook of Traditional and Pharmacology " page

> 109 which I have scanned for interest. Is this volume recommended in the MDX

> reading list ? I know Vol1 is on the reading list but Vols2-4 do not have an

> alphabetical index and are not much good for reference purposes, albeit they

> are a good source of information.

>

> Since insomnia can be caused by deficiency or excess, and may originate in

> the Kidney, Spleen or Liver, or Heart it would be highly inadvisable to

> prescribe a 'cookbook' remedy such as valerian without further

> investigation. Sometimes even powerful PoM medications like temazepam can

> make the insomnia condition worse ! [ Perhaps the unpredictability of

> temazepam is why it is listed as a Class C Drug in the UK with a 5 year

> sentence for supplying - but I digress]. Sammy.

>

> XII. Insomnia 109-iii7-80005-296-6

>

>

>

> Insomnia means the inability to have a normal sleep. Mild insomnia includes

> the difficulty in falling asleep, shallow sleep, difficulty to resume sleep

> once waking up, and sometimes asleep, sometimes awake. Severe insomnia

> refers to the inability to fall asleep for the whole night.

>

>

>

> As early as in Basic Questions, it says, " Disharmony of the stomach leads to

> insomnia. " In the Synopsis of Prescriptions of the Golden Chamber, it

> explains that insomnia is due to the deficiency caused by overwork or

> anxiety. A Complete Collection of Jingyue's Treatise elaborates the causes

> of insomnia.

>

>

>

> Insomnia may appear alone or in combination with other symptoms, such as

> headache, dizziness, palpitation and poor memory. It is commoniy seen as

> neurosis and climacteric syndromes in modern medicine.

>

 

 

 

 

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I have sleeping problems, are there any herbs

or foods that

help with insomnia?

 

I have sleeping problems, are there any herbs or foods

that help with

insomnia? JoAnn Guest Jun 01, 2005 18:54 PDT

Sunday, March 27, 2005

 

 

A reader asks, " Are there any foods, vitamins, herbs,

etc, that can

help with insomnia? I've had sleeping problems for

years, and I would

really appreciate any kind of useful information. "

 

With insomnia, it all basically boils down to

endocrine system

imbalances. Sleep is a physiological function that is

" controlled " by

" hormones " , and these hormones are of course released

by endocrine

system glands according to a natural cycle.

 

A person who is having trouble sleeping is merely

experiencing a

disruption in this natural cycle.

 

To answer this question, it is helpful to look at what

promotes healthy

sleep cycles in the first place.

 

Perhaps the single most important influencing factor

in setting these

cycles is exposure to natural sunlight. In fact,

simply getting natural

sunlight during the day often corrects the problem

outright.

 

I know it sounds simple, but exposure to sunlight is

fundamental to

healthy sleep cycles.

 

A lot of this, of course, has to do with the

production and suppression

of melatonin, which is also called the sleep hormone.

 

Melatonin levels normally rise at night, and peak

during sleep. Once a

person wakes up and goes outside to get natural

sunlight exposure,

melatonin levels are suppressed. This tells the body

that daylight is

here, and that we should be awake and alert during the

day.

 

But when a person avoids sunlight -- if they have an

office job and

only

get fluorescent light or other forms of artificial

light during the day

-- these melatonin levels are not suppressed during

the day. They

remain

unnaturally high, and this tells the body that it may

still be night.

 

This is why a lot of people tend to feel drowsy during

the day or have

a lack of energy, and subsequently, they can't sleep

at night either.

It's all due to the unnaturally high levels of

melatonin during the day

which cause unnaturally low levels at night time as

well.

 

So once again, the most effective strategy is to get

sunlight --- to

suppress those melatonin levels during the day and let

them come back

strong at night.

 

If you live in a climate where you can't get a lot of

natural sunlight,

you can help yourself through the use of light boxes.

However, light

boxes are not a replacement for natural sunlight.

 

In fact, nothing comes close to the intensity of light

you receive from

the sun. Even high-powered light boxes only provide a

fraction of the

light energy of natural sunlight. So make sure you get

natural sunlight

on your skin.

 

And by the way, getting it through a window is not the

same as getting

it outdoors. Windows filter out ultraviolet light, so

you have to

expose

your skin to direct sunlight.

 

(This is why many of the kings and queens in European

history went mad,

by the way: they wanted to keep their skin pale by

avoiding sunlight.

 

Nearly all royals were chronically deficient in

vitamin D -- and that

causes schizophrenia, depression, aggression and other

mental

disorders...)

 

There could be other problems causing insomnia as

well. You might have

low melatonin production. Maybe you're getting

sunlight during the day,

but at night your body isn't producing melatonin in

the way that it

should. A shortcut to solving this is to take

melatonin supplements.

These are available at health food stores or vitamin

shops online.

Melatonin supplements should be taken an hour or so

before bedtime, and

they will typically help people sleep more soundly.

 

But understand this is just a stop-gap measure. If

your body isn't

producing melatonin, there's something imbalanced in

your system, and

you need to get back to the fundamentals of health in

order to recreate

an environment in which your body will naturally

produce the required

levels of melatonin that support healthy, sound sleep

 

 

 

 

Overview:

 

Sleep is a physiological function that is controlled

by hormones, and

these hormones are of course released by endocrine

system glands

according to a natural cycle.

 

To answer this question, it is helpful to look at what

promotes healthy

sleep cycles in the first place.

 

Perhaps the single most important influencing factor

in setting these

cycles is exposure to natural sunlight.

 

A lot of this, of course, has to do with the

production and suppression

of melatonin, which is also called the sleep hormone.

This is why a lot of people tend to feel drowsy during

the day or have

a

lack of energy, and subsequently, they can't sleep at

night either.

 

It's all due to the unnaturally high levels of

melatonin during the day

which cause unnaturally low levels at night time as

well.

If you live in a climate where you can't get a lot of

natural sunlight,

you can help yourself through the use of light boxes.

However, light boxes are not a replacement for natural

sunlight.

So make sure you get natural sunlight on your skin.

And by the way, getting it through a window is not the

same as getting

it outdoors.

 

Windows filter out ultraviolet light, so you have to

expose your skin

to

direct sunlight.

 

These are available at health food stores or vitamin

shops online.

Melatonin supplements should be taken an hour or so

before bedtime, and

they will typically help people sleep more soundly.

 

If your body isn't producing melatonin, there's

something imbalanced in

your system, and you need to get back to the

fundamentals of health in

order to recreate an environment in which your body

will naturally

produce the required levels of melatonin that support

healthy, sound

sleep.

 

Source: http://www.newstarget.com

 

Moderator's Note: As the author states, sleep is

controlled by our

Hormones. This of course is linked to diet and is one

of the primary

reasons why we should eat organically! Artficial

hormones are prevalent

in the majority of animal foods (i.e. ALL non-organic

meat and dairy.

These artificial hormones attach themselves to our

hormone receptor

sites, interfering with natural hormone response.

 

Natural hormones have a very " short " life span,

however artificial

hormones recirculate throughout the body and may never

leave.

Industrial

pollutants called " xenoestrogens " respond in a similar

manner. The

Xenoestrogens (dioxins, etc) are not present in our

plant foods however

they do take up residence in the animal kingdom and

this includes our

human body as well.

Dioxins create " free radicals " , more commonly known as

" immune

complexes " . Research indicates that these contaminants

play a major

role

in modern diseases.

JoAnn

 

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mrsjo-

DietaryTi-

www.geocities.com/mrsjoguest/Genes

 

 

 

 

AIM Barleygreen

" Wisdom of the Past, Food of the Future "

 

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