New to group-My story

February 17, 2005

Hi everyone, my name is Gina, I am 49 years old I live in California on

a beautiful horse ranch. I own 9 horses and teach and train others how

to be around horses. Before I got sick they were my only real passion

except for the Lord, and of course my 2 kids 15 year old son and 18 year

old daughter. NOw thru my journey to sickness and back, I have become

extremely passionate about health, and helping others realize there is a

way to take control of your own life, that can make some really positive

changes by diet, supplements, prayer, and good healthy realtionships.

I'll give you a brief review of how things happened for me. At age 40 I

started noticing some pains in arms, started taking some calcium and

then subsided. Then it seemed over the next few years I developed

horrible allergies, all year long which lead to chronic sinusitis and

other upper respitory infections, which lead to yeast and bladder

infections. This was almost constant almost every 6 weeks I would be

sick. Lots of antiobiotics. Prior to this I had NEVER been sick. Then I

developed asthma on top of the allergies, which added to me being really

tired all the time. I was starting to have a hard time walking and

talking at the same time, had to take naps because I wasnt sleeping,

becasue I would have toget up to pee every 2 hours all nite long. I

went to the doctor beause I thought I was having heart problems, could't

walk up stairswith out pain in legs and felt like lead weights on shoes.

He said there was nothing wrong with heart, and was prescribed steroids

for asthma, I would not take them and started seeking alternatives.

That is where my journey begins to regain my health, but I got much

worse along the way. I tried all kinds of different health systems from

several different companies. Dr. Wallachs, Dr. David Williams, Natures

SUnshine, Dr. Julian Whitaker. They all claimed to be nautral and the

best. I did cure my allergies and my asthma was about 85-90 gone with

what I was doing. In addition to their programs I was taking 6 fish oil

capsules, 6 coral calcium, green tea extract and freeze dried aloe vera.

This went on for years and I continued to decline. I had gone to the

doctors some more but they always said nothing was wrong that they could

see!!! Thru my own research and symptoms I figured I had MS and heavy

metal poisoning. But I was not going to take the drugs recommended.

By the time I was 47 nothing I said made any sense because words got

mixed up, I was tripping all the time, my feet felt so heavy I could not

walk up stairs or slight inclines without alot of effort and muscle

pain, my shoulders hurt so bad in the nite when I would go to roll over

it felt like the bones were breaking.MY diegestion got completely messed

up and was constipated and full of gas. My short term memory was

completely gone, hair was falling out and the rest was turing grey

pretty quick and also my eysite was failing pretty quick. ALso when I

would be going to sleep my heart would b e jumping all over the place

and then as I would drift off, I would be like jolted awake gasping for

air! That was really very scary. Then about 1 1/2 years ago I had a

sick cat and was rerseaching feline auto immune diseases and stumbled

onto some info that ended up changing the course of my sickness. I

had just finished doing an intestinal clenase from natures Sunshine

Which if you don't have healthy bowel movement, that is where you need

to start. It took me along time and lots of wasted supplements to figure

that one out. Then I started on the full optimal health system that

was explained to me, plus some safe fish oil, that's not bad, I had more

energy almost immediately within days, then around 4 months I really

started to notice some changes. One by one all of my symptoms have

gone. Hair quit falling out,don't need my glasses anymore, can run up

hills now, and sleep through the nite with no pain in shoulders. Oh

yeah my hands and feet used to be so cold I would use the blow dryer on

them to help warm, but they would still be like ice, that is gone.Also

my grip strength was gone, could not hold on to stuff tight at all, but

now much stronger, can grip a manure fork and clean horse stalls! So

what did I learn, the fish oil and coral calcium and also some

progresterone cream I was using were all contaminated with mercury, lead

and PCB's. This really added to the problem. I now take a very pure

fish oil from Nordic Naturals, most alternative doctors still say it is

the best way to get Omegas. I learned that all those other supplements

had synthetics and fillers which was just adding to my burden of toxins

in my system. I learned that the gut has to be healthy first otherwise

noting is getting digested and utilized no matter how good your diet is.

I learned to research, research and research. The products I now

take are non toxic, no synthetic or fillers, the pills are in a food

matrix so 100% digestable. They have GMP (Good mfg. practices) which

the majority of supplement companies dont so nobody is regulating what

is in those supplement bottles. My friend is coming along right beind

me in her healing with MS. going slower though because I cannot

convince her to get off the interferon which continue to screw up the

immune sysmtem. But her last MRI showed shrinking old lesions and no

new ones!! Also she had a cancer tumor that has now stopped growing,

and doctors have postponed her surgery. That is good news. The other

things that have to change if you want to heal naturally of course if

diet, and I have lots of opinions on that. Enough for now. I look

forward in getting to know all of you. GIna

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February 17, 2005

Hi, Gina. Thanks so much for sharing about your amazing recovery! When you get another chance, would you please tell us more about the specific diet you used to get well? Thanks so much, Amelia

sentto-12621366-777-1108665561-ameliagerlach=hotsheet.com [sentto-12621366-777-1108665561-ameliagerlach=hotsheet.com] On Behalf Of Gina Kindscher (Charter)Thursday, February 17, 2005 1:39 PMNatural_healing- Subject: New to group-My story

Hi everyone, my name is Gina, I am 49 years old I live in California on a beautiful horse ranch. I own 9 horses and teach and train others how to be around horses. Before I got sick they were my only real passion except for the Lord, and of course my 2 kids 15 year old son and 18 year old daughter. NOw thru my journey to sickness and back, I have become extremely passionate about health, and helping others realize there is a way to take control of your own life, that can make some really positive changes by diet, supplements, prayer, and good healthy realtionships.I'll give you a brief review of how things happened for me. At age 40 Istarted noticing some pains in arms, started taking some calcium andthen subsided. Then it seemed over the next few years I developedhorrible allergies, all year long which lead to chronic sinusitis andother upper respitory infections, which lead to yeast and bladderinfections. This was almost constant almost every 6 weeks I would besick. Lots of antiobiotics. Prior to this I had NEVER been sick. Then Ideveloped asthma on top of the allergies, which added to me being reallytired all the time. I was starting to have a hard time walking andtalking at the same time, had to take naps because I wasnt sleeping, becasue I would have toget up to pee every 2 hours all nite long. Iwent to the doctor beause I thought I was having heart problems, could'twalk up stairswith out pain in legs and felt like lead weights on shoes.He said there was nothing wrong with heart, and was prescribed steroidsfor asthma, I would not take them and started seeking alternatives.That is where my journey begins to regain my health, but I got muchworse along the way. I tried all kinds of different health systems fromseveral different companies. Dr. Wallachs, Dr. David Williams, NaturesSUnshine, Dr. Julian Whitaker. They all claimed to be nautral and thebest. I did cure my allergies and my asthma was about 85-90 gone withwhat I was doing. In addition to their programs I was taking 6 fish oilcapsules, 6 coral calcium, green tea extract and freeze dried aloe vera. This went on for years and I continued to decline. I had gone to thedoctors some more but they always said nothing was wrong that they could see!!! Thru my own research and symptoms I figured I had MS and heavy metal poisoning. But I was not going to take the drugs recommended. By the time I was 47 nothing I said made any sense because words gotmixed up, I was tripping all the time, my feet felt so heavy I could notwalk up stairs or slight inclines without alot of effort and musclepain, my shoulders hurt so bad in the nite when I would go to roll overit felt like the bones were breaking.MY diegestion got completely messedup and was constipated and full of gas. My short term memory wascompletely gone, hair was falling out and the rest was turing greypretty quick and also my eysite was failing pretty quick. ALso when Iwould be going to sleep my heart would b e jumping all over the placeand then as I would drift off, I would be like jolted awake gasping forair! That was really very scary. Then about 1 1/2 years ago I had asick cat and was rerseaching feline auto immune diseases and stumbledonto some info that ended up changing the course of my sickness. Ihad just finished doing an intestinal clenase from natures SunshineWhich if you don't have healthy bowel movement, that is where you needto start. It took me along time and lots of wasted supplements to figure that one out. Then I started on the full optimal health system thatwas explained to me, plus some safe fish oil, that's not bad, I had moreenergy almost immediately within days, then around 4 months I reallystarted to notice some changes. One by one all of my symptoms havegone. Hair quit falling out,don't need my glasses anymore, can run uphills now, and sleep through the nite with no pain in shoulders. Ohyeah my hands and feet used to be so cold I would use the blow dryer onthem to help warm, but they would still be like ice, that is gone.Alsomy grip strength was gone, could not hold on to stuff tight at all, but now much stronger, can grip a manure fork and clean horse stalls! Sowhat did I learn, the fish oil and coral calcium and also someprogresterone cream I was using were all contaminated with mercury, leadand PCB's. This really added to the problem. I now take a very purefish oil from Nordic Naturals, most alternative doctors still say it isthe best way to get Omegas. I learned that all those other supplementshad synthetics and fillers which was just adding to my burden of toxinsin my system. I learned that the gut has to be healthy first otherwisenoting is getting digested and utilized no matter how good your diet is. I learned to research, research and research. The products I now take are non toxic, no synthetic or fillers, the pills are in a food matrix so 100% digestable. They have GMP (Good mfg. practices) which the majority of supplement companies dont so nobody is regulating what is in those supplement bottles. My friend is coming along right beind me in her healing with MS. going slower though because I cannot convince her to get off the interferon which continue to screw up the immune sysmtem. But her last MRI showed shrinking old lesions and no new ones!! Also she had a cancer tumor that has now stopped growing, and doctors have postponed her surgery. That is good news. The other things that have to change if you want to heal naturally of course if diet, and I have lots of opinions on that. Enough for now. I look forward in getting to know all of you. GIna-- Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.8 - Release 2/14/2005

February 17, 2005

Hi Gina, Yes, I am very interested in the dietary and supplement changes you made and what finally worked for you. Amelia is doing the Gerson Therapy with 9 juices a day and coffee enemas. I'm sure she'll tell you more about it. My son is sick so I have to get off of here now, but I would like to know what supplements we all take at present and how they have affected us. I did have Carlsson's lemon flavored cod liver oil and that was actually more tolerable than flax oil. Good luck to all~! Peace, Kel