Guest guest Posted December 3, 2004 Report Share Posted December 3, 2004 David Elfstrom <listbox wrote: From: David Elfstrom Thu, 02 Dec 2004 23:34:16 -0500 Red meat linked with rheumatoid arthritisRed meat linked with rheumatoid arthritisThu 2 December, 2004 19:13http://www.reuters.co.uk/newsPackageArticle.jhtml?type=topNews & storyID=632023 & section=newsWASHINGTON (Reuters) - People who eat lots of red meat may be raising their risk of rheumatoid arthritis, an incurable and crippling disease, researchers have reported.A study of 25,000 people living in Europe shows that those who ate the most red meat had double the risk of rheumatoid arthritis, compared to those who ate the least amount.And people who ate more protein overall, including other forms of meat and plant protein, also had a higher risk of the disease while eating fat did not seem to raise the risk, the researchers found.Rheumatoid arthritis is an autoimmune disease in which the body's immune cells mistakenly attack healthy joints.Maybe eating meat somehow sets the body up to attack similar components, the researchers wrote in the latest issue of the journal Arthritis & Rheumatism."It may be that the high collagen content of meat leads to collagen sensitization and consequent production of anticollagen antibodies," Alan Silman and Deborah Symmons at the University of Manchester wrote in their report."Meat consumption may be linked to either additives or even infectious agents, but, again, there is no evidence as to what might be important in relation to rheumatoid arthritis."Silman and Symmons's team worked with data from 25,000 men and women taking part in the European Prospective Investigation of Cancer. These volunteers kept a careful food diary for a week, had blood samples drawn to confirm the kinds of nutrients they ate most, and have been followed since for more than a decade.About 35 patients developed confirmed rheumatoid arthritis. The RA patients were more likely to have been former smokers and tended to eat less food containing vitamin C.The most striking difference, the researchers said, was in terms of eating red meat."A high level of red meat consumption may represent a novel risk factor for inflammatory arthritis or may act as a marker for a group of persons with an increased risk from other lifestyle causes," the researchers wrote."It is unclear whether the association is a causative one," the report said.Please pass this message or article on to someone else so that they may learn also.Community Newsletters.http://www.alternative-medicine-newsletter.infoCommunity Message Boards.http://www.alternative-medicine-message-boards.info"Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a better world." - Linus PaulingGetting well is done one step at a time, day by day, building health and well being..list or archives: :........ - post:............. alternative_Medicine_Forum digest form:...... -digest individual emails: -normal no email:......... -nomail moderator:........ -owner unsubscribe:...... - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2004 Report Share Posted December 4, 2004 And did they say WHAT the RED MEAT was fed, and injected with before it was eaten by these in the *study * group? How was the red meat 's food raised, chemically sprayed, genetically modified corn, etc.? We just may be on the track of something useful here if only they would do REAL SCIENCE!!!! ng - " David Elfstrom " <listbox Thursday, December 02, 2004 11:34 PM Red meat linked with rheumatoid arthritis > > > Red meat linked with rheumatoid arthritis > Thu 2 December, 2004 19:13 > http://www.reuters.co.uk/newsPackageArticle.jhtml?type=topNews & storyID=632023 & se\ ction=news > > WASHINGTON (Reuters) - People who eat lots of red meat may be raising > their risk of rheumatoid arthritis, an incurable and crippling disease, > researchers have reported. > > A study of 25,000 people living in Europe shows that those who ate the > most red meat had double the risk of rheumatoid arthritis, compared to > those who ate the least amount. > > And people who ate more protein overall, including other forms of meat > and plant protein, also had a higher risk of the disease while eating > fat did not seem to raise the risk, the researchers found. > > Rheumatoid arthritis is an autoimmune disease in which the body's immune > cells mistakenly attack healthy joints. > > Maybe eating meat somehow sets the body up to attack similar components, > the researchers wrote in the latest issue of the journal Arthritis & > Rheumatism. > > " It may be that the high collagen content of meat leads to collagen > sensitization and consequent production of anticollagen antibodies, " > Alan Silman and Deborah Symmons at the University of Manchester wrote in > their report. > > " Meat consumption may be linked to either additives or even infectious > agents, but, again, there is no evidence as to what might be important > in relation to rheumatoid arthritis. " > > Silman and Symmons's team worked with data from 25,000 men and women > taking part in the European Prospective Investigation of Cancer. These > volunteers kept a careful food diary for a week, had blood samples drawn > to confirm the kinds of nutrients they ate most, and have been followed > since for more than a decade. > > About 35 patients developed confirmed rheumatoid arthritis. The RA > patients were more likely to have been former smokers and tended to eat > less food containing vitamin C. > > The most striking difference, the researchers said, was in terms of > eating red meat. > > " A high level of red meat consumption may represent a novel risk factor > for inflammatory arthritis or may act as a marker for a group of persons > with an increased risk from other lifestyle causes, " the researchers wrote. > > " It is unclear whether the association is a causative one, " the report > said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2004 Report Share Posted December 4, 2004 In a message dated 12/4/2004 1:35:12 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, nwgott writes: And did they say WHAT the RED MEAT was fed, and injected with before it was eaten by these in the *study * group? How was the red meat 's food raised, chemically sprayed, genetically modified corn, etc.? We just may be on the track of something useful here if only they would do REAL SCIENCE!!!! ng Well the article DID say that it could be various things related to meat. However, since eating meat isn't natural, as an overall thing it's not a healthy practice. But I would definitely say if you're gonna eat meat.. eat organic. *°º°*~Michelle~*°º°* Primal Mommie to: Amy Shea, Tony, Lee Anne, Alexis & Lorelai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2004 Report Share Posted December 4, 2004 Exactly. The study group was over 20,000 people, and there's no way of knowing anything more about the meat that was eaten. David Nora Gottlieb said: > > And did they say WHAT the RED MEAT was fed, and injected with before it > was > eaten by these in the *study * group? How was the red meat 's food > raised, chemically sprayed, genetically modified corn, etc.? We just > may be on the track of something useful here if only they would do REAL > SCIENCE!!!! ng > > - > " David Elfstrom " <listbox > > Thursday, December 02, 2004 11:34 PM > Red meat linked with rheumatoid > arthritis > > >> Red meat linked with rheumatoid arthritis >> Thu 2 December, 2004 19:13 http://www.reuters.co.uk/newsPackageArticle.jhtml?type=topNews & storyID=632023 & se\ ction=news Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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