Guest guest Posted April 26, 2003 Report Share Posted April 26, 2003 Good Morning! I would like to thank G Kumar, Web Vedic Astrologer for this continuing article series. Make sure you visit his website: www.e.com The Fourfold Yoga - Part III Union via Psychic Control ( Raja Yoga ) Union via Psychic Control is known as Raja Yoga. Raja means King and this Yoga is defined as the Regal Yoga or the king of all the yogas. Raja Yoga has eight limbs called Ashtanga Yoga. The Eightfold Raja Yoga Yama - Observance of Right Conduct ( Non-violence, Truth, Non- covetousness, continence, not receiving donations ) Niyama - Meditation, Self-Study, contentment, purity internal & external, & reverence for the Lord Asanas - Physical exercises that relax and tone up our muscles Pranayama - Breath control exercises that slows our breathing and regulates the flow of Prana Pratyahara - Withdrawal from the outer world or disconnecting the mind from the sensory world. Dharana Concentration Dhyana - Meditation Samadhi - Achievement of Cosmic Consiousness. Without control of the mind, nothing spiritual can be achieved. Mind binds,mind liberates.Mind is the cause of all bondage. Controlling mind is the most difficult thing in the world. You may be able to control everything but never the mind. Mind is subtle matter,according to Indian Philosophy. ( Indian Philsophy is a humiliating term given to the twelve positive sciences in the Vedas ). There are many definitions of mind. One definition is that Mind is finer matter in vibration. Another definition is that Mind is a steady stream of thoughts. We can say that, like a river flowing, continous thought flow is Mind. Mind has been compared to a monkey. It jumps from one thing to another. Controlling this monkey is very difficult due to its jumping nature. Once upon a time, there was a monkey ( Mind ). Someone gave it alcohol and it became intoxicated. Later a scorpion called Avarice bit him. Later,it was bitten by the sting of Jealousy.Then all of a sudden an evil spirit by the name of Pride possessed him. Just imagine how difficut it is to control such a mind! The Unified Vital Energy , the Cosmic Prana " The Unified Field is the only Reality " said Einstein. " This Unified Field is the Brahman of the Vedists and the Tao of the Chinese " averrs Dr Fritjof Capra in his book " The Tao of Physics " . All the four basic forces in the Universe - weak nuclear force, strong nuclear force, electricity & magnetism - are but different manifestations of that Unified Power which the Vedists call Prana. As per Raja Yoga, there are only two powerful forces in the Universe- Akasha ( Ether-principle ) and the Cosmic Energy, Prana. All that we see around us, taste, touch and feel is simply one of the many manifestation of this Akasha. This all pervasive energy manifests as the sun, the moon, the stars, the earth etc. The other elements - Vayu ( air ), Agni ( Fire ), Apa ( water ) & Prithvi ( earth ) are only its grosser manifestations. Our bodies belong to the Ocean of gross matter & our minds belong to the Ocean of subtle matter ( mind ). So long as Prana is active, there is life; when Prana goes to sleep, as it were, life ceases to be. Self- purification, the process of Raja Yoga. If we can find a method of returning gross matter to its origin, we will be amazed to observe that it vanishes leaving only subtle matter behind and if we can still return this subtle matter to its Cause, we shall observe that it disappears, leaving only the Self behind. This method of Self-purification is what is called the " returning process " . My body will vanish when it becomes pure. Vanish ? Not literally but figuratively which means I will live as if my body were not there. My body wont assert its demands and I wont feel its weight. This " returning process " , if applied to the mind ( The word Religion is derived from the Latin Relegaire - " to go back " ) can make it invisible: it wont boss me, drag me hither and thither and I wont feel trapped in it. This process of self- purification will reveal to us " finer and finer dimensions of our being " , until we reach the finest " The Self or the Divine " , or the Ocean of Consciousness. I am the Silence which is more than sound! If therewithin Thou lose thee, Thou art found! The Nameless shoreless Ocean which is " I " Thou cannot breathe, but in its bosom drowned! ( Tennyson ) More information about Transcendental Philosophy & Yoga can be had from http://www.e.com/html/yoga.htm Look at the Oceans of Matter, Mind & Consciousness As waves what we should do is to look at the Ocean of the Triune Being- Matter, Mind and Consciousness. We, as waves, belong to the Ocean. The Absolute is like an infinite Ocean. In order to merge in the Absolute we can meditate like this Above, it is full of me; below, it is full of me; in the middle it is full of me. I am in all beings, and all beings are in me. Om Tat Sat, I am It. I am existence above mind. I am the One Spirit of the Universe. I am neither pleasure nor pain. The body eats,drinks and so on. I am not the body. I am not the mind.... I am Consciousness, Knowledge. Bliss. I am the essence and the nectar of Knowledge. Through Eternity, I change not. I am calm, resplendent and unchanging. I am That, whereof Being is the likeness Mine, the Amrit is; And immortality is Mine And Mine perfect felicity ! ( The Song Celestial ) The Invisible Channels ( Nadis ) Raja Yoga postulates that the human body has invisible channels called Nadis. The major left Nadi is called the Ida and the major right Nadi, the Pingala. The Sepentine coiled Energy called Kundalini, lies coiled in the base Root Chakra ( Muladhara ). Through another invisible channel called the Sushumna, the Kundalini, the Serpent Power, rises in its ascent towards the Crown Chakra ( Sahasrara ). By Pranayama, this mighty corresponding microcosmic power of the Cosmic Shakthi, which is latent in all beings, can be evoked. A Power to call Eternity into Time And make the body's joy as vivid as the soul's ( Aurobindo ) It is this Power-aspect of the Consciousness which India has represented as the Divine Mother - Prakriti in Sankhya, Maya in Vedanta & Shakti in Tantra. Pranayama Many think Pranayama is the control of breath. This is far from true. Pranayama means to know & control the Vital energy or Prana. Control of this mighty energy gives us infinite power. If a man can know & control Prana, where power is there not in him ? He can control everything from microcosm to macrocosm, the whole universe comes under his control. The ancient Seers sought Truth within themselves and asked the perennial question " What is it, when known, everything is known ? " Since it is impossible to study all sciences in a lifetime ( each science being an infinite ocean) , the ancient Seers were after the mighty Secret, some special knowledge of Substance, which when known, everything is known! All principles have a Unitary principle as the base. If that is comprehended, then everything is comprehended. All powers are but manifestations of that Cosmic Energy, Prana. He who has controlled Prana has controlled all the minds in the universe; all the bodies of the Universe: for Prana is the base of all Manifestation ! How to control Prana is the aim of Pranayama. The sum total energy in the Universe is an absolute constant: Universal Energy can neither be created nor destroyed; hence it is indestructible. It has two aspects, unmanifest and manifest. This power is Prana & its control is Pranayama. The main aim or Pranayama is to arouse the Kundalini. In ordinary mortals the base of the Sushumna will not be open. To open it is the function of Pranayama. In Sanskrit, Kundalini means the coiled Energy. The base of all mental impulses is the Root Chakra and the Consciousness - Force power is this coiled energy. When we concentrate deeply or meditate intensely,we find that this place of the Root Chakra is heated up. When we do Raja Yoga, we experience a subtle warmth. This coiled Serpentine energy rises via the Sushumna and when it hits the different Chakras, it creates tremendous reactions. Practice of Pranayama - The Three techniques First technique We have to breathe in deeply ( as deeply as possible ) through both the nostrils and then breathe out slowly. We have to do this initially to prepare ourselves for the practice of Pranayama. Here the time taken for exhalation and inhalation should be equal. Normally instead of counting one, two, three, in the Orient, mantras are chanted. Om is the usual mantra chanted. Second Technique Inhalation is known as Pooraka Retention is known as Kumbhaka Exhalation is known as Rechaka First inhale, then retain breath & then exhale. If inhalation is 4 seconds, retention of breath should be 16 seconds and exhalation 8 seconds. During this process, one should meditate upon the triangular Root Chakra ( Muladhara ). Mind should concentrate on this Chakra. Third Technique In this technique, first do Pooraka ( inhalation ). Then immediately do Rechaka ( exhalation ). Then do Retention ( Kumbhaka ) If you do the first technique, your voice will become beautiful. Your face will appear peaceful. The more you practise this technique, the more peace you will get. Once the Golden Serpent rises, your thinking will change.Your perceptions will change. Then you need not rely on books. Then your mind will become your book. This wonderful phenomenon called the mind is a repository of endless knowledge. Once the Kundalini via the Sushumna rises, we reach a transcendental plane. The main aim of the Yogi is to open the Sushumna. On the path of the Sushmna are the Chakras, dynamoes of cosmic energy in man. She sports as Universal Power in the Macrocosm; and in the microcosm as the coiled Serpent Power! Infinite Power of the Absolute art Thou! The Cause of the Universe as Maya The entire Creation is Thy Play Thy blessing is Bliss Absolute ! The essence of all sciences art Thou All women Thy manifestations ! The visible Universe Thou art And the dormant Serpentine Power ! The Scientific basis for observing continence Semen and the mind are interrelated. That is why Continence has been prescribed for controlling the mind. Dhanwantri, the Father of Ayurveda told his disciples that the panacea for all ills is Brahmacharya ( Continence). The basic principle of Raja Yoga is that seminal energy has properties of Vidyut ( electricity ) Ojas ( light ) & Tapas ( heat ). This energy when preserved is converted to spiritual energy and stored in the brain. This process is called sublimation. Havelock Ellis, in his Psychology of Sex, opines that the sublimation of the seminal energy can give skills, artistic and scientific. He only proved what Raja Yoga proclaimed thousand of years ago. This seminal energy ( Urdhwa Retas ) is stored by the Raja Yogi in the body by observing Brahmacharya. Raja Yoga advocates the preservation of the seminal energy for 12 years for the yogic faculties to lossom. Once sublimated, this energy goes by the name of Ojas ( Effulgence ) and is stored in the brain ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2003 Report Share Posted April 26, 2003 Idaho Observer, and vaclib: Dear Ingri and Don, I was at our Idaho State vaccine liberation meeting on a beautiful, balmy fall evening in Coer D’ Alene last September, when Dr Sherry Tenpenny was speaking. I left that meeting with the impression that, at this time, the benefits as compared to the hazards of the commercially available vaccines were questionable, especially with the manner in which they are presently prescribed. Moreover, the population groups selected for the vaccinations are often inappropriate, creating unnecessary hazards and often not offering any benefit in exchange. The flu vaccine has for years been both dangerous and worthless, because it has an overall effectiveness rate not exceeding 5% when all factors are considered, and yet almost always causes at least a mild case of the flu when it is taken. It can produce catastrophic illness, as exemplified by the large number of cases of severe neurological illness produced by the “swine flu” vaccine of a few years ago. Historically, there are many well-documented examples of the extreme benefit of appropriate vaccination programs. The first polio vaccine was the injected vaccine, which hit the market about 1954, quickly followed by the oral polio vaccine in 1957. When I arrived at my medical internship at Hinsdale Sanitarium and Hospital in 1965, there was not a single polio case in the hospital, but there were several floors full of empty iron lungs, that had previously been kept busy with polio victims before the vaccine was made available. I maintained a lively scientific curiosity during those years and there was no other advance in medicine, immunology, chemistry or hygiene that could explain the end of the US polio epidemic. Quite to the contrary, the epoch surrounding the sixties saw a large counter culture arise which was deeply into drugs, promiscuity, and unhygienic behaviors. The unique benefits of the polio vaccination program were emphasized by the dramatic rise of Hepatitis: B, C, D, AIDS, and Genital Herpes in those groups, but no polio! My most recent book, “Mexico Travel Alert” documents the nearly disintegration of hygiene and sanitation that has occurred in Mexico because of economic disaster, well nigh universal corruption, and the failure of the infrastructure, along with the present populist/anti American revolution. Even so: There is no recurrent polio epidemic, which powerfully and clearly demonstrates the overriding benefits of polio vaccination. The current senseless, fascist state of the US immunization program is exemplified by the compulsory vaccination of all newborn babies for Hepatitis B. They have no need for this dangerous vaccine whatsoever, unless their mothers are drug abusing hookers. On the other hand, the vaccinated infants are exposed to lifelong hazards from the biological and chemical constituents of that vaccine, and the many others: even if properly manufactured; Which is made doubtful by the present US policy of emphasis on profit at all risks! The beneficial effects of the Hepatitis B vaccine to those few who may really need it quickly wear off during early childhood anyway, leaving them unprotected during their adolescent years. The definitive answers to these issues need to include Selection of appropriate population groups, no matter how much this may lessen the corporate marketplace for their vaccines, and Populism: The Education of the public to the whole picture relevant to each vaccine, including the specifics of risks VS benefits, along with bases and criteria for selecting appropriate populations, and then allowing the public to make an informed choice/consent about what they will have put into their bodies, and their children’s bodies. Populist democracy is also needed to reign in the fascist government-corporate axis and make the truthfully informed public the proper judges of what the government and corporations should be doing in a democracy. The facts that both physicians and hospitals mindlessly go along with the Hepatitis B vaccination programs only serve to emphasize the need for a populist, informed public as the appropriate watch dog! Another extreme example of abuse by vaccination is the African AIDS epidemic, brought on by US manufactured, “World Health Organization” distributed, smallpox vaccines infested with HIV. I have independent confirmation of this fact from parties with direct access to NIH, where many millions more doses of the HIV infested smallpox vaccine are being stored. The salient question is: Who gets the rest? Also: When can our government ever again be trusted to not be heinously degrading and murdering the human race? My latest book, “Mexico Travel Alert”, is currently on the “Idaho Observer” web site at: www.proliberty.com/observer OR www.Idaho-Observer.com It documents the current populist revolution in Mexico, along with the part the US government has played in destabilizing Mexico, and the horrendous pollution and sanitation problems in Mexico at present/. “Mexico Travel Alert” is also posted and available at: http://populist.topcities.com/book/MexicoTravelAlert.htm The AIDS/HIV virus was developed by the US government, in a program which ran from 1948 to 1978. It was a continuation of “Operation Paperclip” in which Nazi programs and scientists were brought to the US at the end of WW11 to continue here. The American public had been lied to by press/media assurances that no Nazis would ever be allowed here, and that all of their sick science would be locked away forever, never to again be allowed on the face of the earth to afflict or affect human beings. Aspartame was also perfected in Operation Paperclip. The Bush clan were close Nazi collaborators, who were effective in continuing the Nazi programs under the auspices of the CIA, and other Super Agencies. Donald Rummsfeld is the organized crime godfather in the Jewish Mafia who, after he had done so, bragged to the press that he had “called in all his markers” to get Aspartame on the market. Even Presidents, Congress, the FDA, and EPA could not stop this continuation of Nazi fascism! In 1977 President Jimmy Carter had his FDA director seek felony charges against the perpetrators of the Aspartame crime. Pursuant to his request, the US Congress held full hearings, preferred felony charges against Donald Rummsfeld and his associates, and backed those charges with concurrent appropriation of 60 million dollars for the special prosecution that was to have occurred. All that happened was that the Illuminati broke Carter, made Reagan president, and swept the whole issue under the rug. (With the full collaboration of the US media!) This leaves the manufacture of Aspartame a marker by which we can judge the safety of our vaccines. So long as a Bush, Rummsfeld, or their ilk remain in our government, it is hopelessly corrupted to Satanic ends, which will always be to the destruction and degradation of humanity. We live under a dictatorship of the mainline press and media. What they present in headlines and pictures is about all that the vast majority of Americans take time to believe or comprehend. So long as the mainstream media do not drum the heinous Aspartame off the market place, you can be assured they are under the control of the Satanic Illuminati, and thus unable to even attempt to alert the public to the true dangers of vaccines, and other hazards engendered by governments, quazi governmental agencies, and fascist corporations! When you see Aspartame drummed out of production by unrelenting pressure from exposure via the mainstream media, and you see Rummsfeld relentlessly prosecuted for his Aspartame mass capital murder crimes, you may then believe that right and wrong, the reign of law, concern for human welfare, and due process are beginning to take their rightful place in our government and bureaucracies. Until then, there is no reason to believe that the vaccination programs enacted are safe, effective, or well guided! Aspartame can serve as an indicator of the health of our government. So long as this chemical agent, which is nothing other than a “contract on humanity”, remains on the market: You can be assured that the US government is under the control of “the present darkness”. There is no commercial purpose for it, except that it is a paid hit on mankind: (It is bitter and foul flavored, not sweet at all: they secretly and illegally add other chemicals to hide its bitter foul flavor, and provide the sweetening!) When I did a less than expert search of www.uspto.gov , (The US patent and trademark office), I found about 150 patents for 2000 or so chemicals licensed as intellectual property for the specific purpose of: “To hide the bitter foul flavor of Aspartame, and provide the sweetening.” Aspartame was also patented as a neurotoxin! Mainstream, and well-trusted brand name food and flavoring companies, and universities, even sugar companies held many of these fascist patents. Dr Tenpenny presented ample evidence that the vaccine industry is at present no better! Both “Mexico Travel Alert” and “Billions of Victims “ are replete with many more details. Sincerely, Dr Jim Bowen Permission to publish granted. Dr Sherry Tenpenny presented the overall picture at the Idaho meeting of: www.vaclib@... You can get in touch with her books Through the " Idaho Observer " , for instance. What she had to say matches my practice experience of 25 years, that they utilize flu strains from Hong Kong, and Bankok for example, choosing the two they would like to believe would probably be most likely to epidemize the US. 85% of the time, the flu strains are different ones or have mutated by the time they reach a given US population. Also about 85% of the time, the flu-like illnesses are caused by other viral organisms not even of the type for which flu shots are given. This leaves less than a 5% chance of even theoretically scoring an immunologic hit. In practice, I stocked a very minimal supply of flu vaccine and told my patients they could be immunized if they wished, but that the shots would almost always make them sick, and had only a small possibility of being of benefit to them. This " Populist " approach on my part kept my patients happy, but lost money for me because when the patients had a chance to make an intelligent, informed decision on their own behalf they, by and large, wisely let me keep the near worthless vaccines. I never saw a severe case of the flu that the vaccine would probably have helped, nor did my patient group ever remonstrate with me that they were faring any worse than their neighbors. Certainly when they did get a “flu” it was no worse than the neighboring cases who had taken the flu shot. So it appears that the old catch all: “Well, if you get the flu anyway after taking the shot, it will probably be a more mild case etc.” is probably not borne out in actual practice. Presently, My personal self-protective approach to the possibility of SARS getting to me is to drink lots of Jamica as tea.(or Jamaica) It is a hibiscus flower that is readily and cheaply available in dried form at super markets that serve largely Hispanic populations. I presently am paying $4.00 for a one lb package. About ten percent loose blossoms by volume makes a nice strong tea. It is rich in polyphenols, and bioflavanoid antioxidants and happens to concentrate its actions in the mucosal membranes. I keep Astragalus on hand as my interferon inducer of choice. It likewise happens to concentrate its antiviral action in the respiratory mucosal surfaces. I take a dose or two occasionally, and if I felt I might be exposed, I would take it for a few days. I wish I had a stable lifestyle so I could keep an aloe vera plant. The internal matrix and gel of aloe v is also a potent immunostimulant/antiviral. The outer covering, of aloe v of course is poisonous! As soon as I can get to health food store I will get some 1:10.000 colloidal silver with a nasal mister to cover the SARS topically should it come my way. The OTC ulcer med " tagamet " , or cimetidine is also a potent antiviral. I keep some on hand to use if a viral attack should occur. Sincerely, Dr Jim Bowen --- yogiguruji <yogiguruji wrote: > Good Morning! > > I would like to thank G Kumar, Web Vedic Astrologer > for this > continuing article series. Make sure you visit his > website: > www.e.com > > The Fourfold Yoga - Part III > > Union via Psychic Control ( Raja Yoga ) > > Union via Psychic Control is known as Raja Yoga. > Raja means King and > this Yoga is defined as the Regal Yoga or the king > of all the yogas. > > Raja Yoga has eight limbs called Ashtanga Yoga. > > The Eightfold Raja Yoga > > Yama - Observance of Right Conduct ( Non-violence, > Truth, Non- > covetousness, continence, not receiving donations ) > > Niyama - Meditation, Self-Study, contentment, purity > internal & > external, & reverence for the Lord > > Asanas - Physical exercises that relax and tone up > our muscles > Pranayama - Breath control exercises that slows our > breathing and > regulates the flow of Prana > Pratyahara - Withdrawal from the outer world or > disconnecting > the mind from the sensory world. > Dharana Concentration > Dhyana - Meditation > Samadhi - Achievement of Cosmic Consiousness. > > Without control of the mind, nothing spiritual can > be achieved. Mind > binds,mind liberates.Mind is the cause of all > bondage. > > Controlling mind is the most difficult thing in the > world. You may be > able to control everything but never the mind. > > Mind is subtle matter,according to Indian > Philosophy. ( Indian > Philsophy is a humiliating term given to the twelve > positive sciences > in the Vedas ). > > There are many definitions of mind. One definition > is that Mind is > finer matter in vibration. Another definition is > that Mind is a > steady stream of thoughts. We can say that, like a > river flowing, > continous thought flow is Mind. > > Mind has been compared to a monkey. It jumps from > one thing to > another. Controlling this monkey is very difficult > due to its jumping > nature. > > Once upon a time, there was a monkey ( Mind ). > Someone gave it alcohol > and it became intoxicated. Later a scorpion called > Avarice bit him. > Later,it was bitten by the sting of Jealousy.Then > all of a sudden an > evil spirit by the name of Pride possessed him. Just > imagine how > difficut it is to control such a mind! > > The Unified Vital Energy , the Cosmic Prana > > " The Unified Field is the only Reality " said > Einstein. " This Unified > Field is the Brahman of the Vedists and the Tao of > the Chinese " > averrs Dr Fritjof Capra in his book " The Tao of > Physics " . > > All the four basic forces in the Universe - weak > nuclear force, strong > nuclear force, electricity & magnetism - are but > different > manifestations of that Unified Power which the > Vedists call Prana. > > As per Raja Yoga, there are only two powerful forces > in the Universe- > Akasha ( Ether-principle ) and the Cosmic Energy, > Prana. > > All that we see around us, taste, touch and feel is > simply one of the > many manifestation of this Akasha. This all > pervasive energy manifests > as the sun, the moon, the stars, the earth etc. The > other elements - > Vayu ( air ), Agni ( Fire ), Apa ( water ) & Prithvi > ( earth ) are > only its grosser manifestations. > > Our bodies belong to the Ocean of gross matter & our > minds belong to > the Ocean of subtle matter ( mind ). So long as > Prana is active, > there is life; when Prana goes to sleep, as it were, > life ceases to > be. > > Self- purification, the process of Raja Yoga. > > If we can find a method of returning gross matter to > its origin, we > will be amazed to observe that it vanishes leaving > only subtle matter > behind and if we can still return this subtle matter > to its Cause, we > shall observe that it disappears, leaving only the > Self behind. > > This method of Self-purification is what is called > the " returning > process " . My body will vanish when it becomes pure. > Vanish ? Not > literally but figuratively which means I will live > as if my body were > not there. My body wont assert its demands and I > wont feel its weight. > > This " returning process " , if applied to the mind ( > The word Religion > is derived from the Latin Relegaire - " to go back " > ) can make it > invisible: > > it wont boss me, drag me hither and thither and I > wont feel trapped in > it. This process of self- purification will reveal > to us " finer and > finer dimensions of our being " , until we reach the > finest " The Self > or the Divine " , or the Ocean of Consciousness. > > I am the Silence which is more than sound! > If therewithin Thou lose thee, Thou art found! > The Nameless shoreless Ocean which is " I " > Thou cannot breathe, but in its bosom drowned! ( > Tennyson ) > > More information about Transcendental Philosophy & > Yoga can be > had from http://www.e.com/html/yoga.htm > > > Look at the Oceans of Matter, Mind & Consciousness > > As waves what we should do is to look at the Ocean > of the Triune > Being- Matter, Mind and Consciousness. We, as waves, > belong to the > Ocean. > > The Absolute is like an infinite Ocean. In order to > merge in the > Absolute we can meditate like this > > Above, it is full of me; below, it is full of me; in > the middle it is > full of me. I am in all beings, and all beings are > in me. Om Tat Sat, > I am It. I am existence above mind. I am the One > Spirit of the > Universe. I am neither pleasure nor pain. > > The body eats,drinks and so on. I am not the body. I > am not the > mind.... I am Consciousness, Knowledge. Bliss. > > I am the essence and the nectar of Knowledge. > Through Eternity, I > change not. I am calm, resplendent and unchanging. > > I am That, whereof Being is the likeness > Mine, the Amrit is; > And immortality is Mine > And Mine perfect felicity ! ( The Song Celestial ) > > The Invisible Channels ( Nadis ) > > Raja Yoga postulates that the human body has > invisible channels called > === message truncated === The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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