Guest guest Posted March 18, 2002 Report Share Posted March 18, 2002 It is non uncommon for women to have small encapsulated cysts..that have cancer cells in them, that left alone never become a problem. When the woman has a mammogram, the little cysts are smashed, and the cancer cells are then spread into the healthy cells..bam..another woman with cancer. Here are some links you might find interesting When Will the Insanity of Mammogram Recommendations End? - It is beyond belief that US " experts " can come up with a recommendation to increase the use of mammography and add billions of wasted dollars to our health care budget with no benefit. New Federal Guidelines Ignore Dangers of Mammography - Dr. Samuel Epstein is one of the top expert's on cancer prevention, and he provides his comments on the same topic. While you are in Dr Mercolas site, you might do a search on breast cancer and mammograms. Pat At 7:51 AM +0000 3/15/02, Rasa3001, wrote: Message: 6 Thu, 14 Mar 2002 12:37:51 EST Rasa3001 Re: Re: Mammograms How can a mammogram spread cancer? Just curious, Vanessa -- PAL Ranch King Hill, ID http://www.palranch.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2003 Report Share Posted January 10, 2003 Thanks Victoria, I agree with much of what you say... my point is that alternative therapies and healing services while much more popular than ever before have a very small market share of consumer use in comparison to say hospitals, pharmacists, dentists, food providers, car manufacturers, car mechanics, child care providers ,police departments, insurance agencies...I have experienced substandard service/ products from all of the above regulated groups at least once in the last 2 years... in many cases what is standard practice, under regulation can still get you hurt or even killed.... The greater the number of laws and restrictions, the poorer the people who inhabit the land. The sharper the weapons of battle and war, the greater the troubles besetting the land. The greater the cunning with which people are ruled, the stranger the things which occur in the land. The harder the rules and regulations, the greater the number of those who will steal. The sage therefore does not contrive, in order to bring about reform, but teaches the people peace of mind, in order that they might enjoy their lives. We are all concerned about the reputation of our practice... please " be the change you wish to see, " call the practitioner you do not know in your area... tell them about the great deal you get on disposable needles, or get your rep to send him some, heck by them some yourself... if you suspect they are working in a substandard manner...in the long run it will be a much better deal for you and your industry than laws, paid enforcement, and regulation. > Post message: Chinese Traditional Medicine > Subscribe: Chinese Traditional Medicine- > Un: > Chinese Traditional Medicine- > List owner: Chinese Traditional Medicine-owner > > Shortcut URL to this page: > /community/Chinese Traditional Medicine > ------ > > There are 4 messages in this issue. > > Topics in this digest: > > 1. Re: Digest Number 729 > brian bullock <reiki_now > 2. Re: Contaminated needles ? > " victoria_dragon > <victoria_dragon " > <victoria_dragon > 3. Re: Digest Number 729 > " victoria_dragon > <victoria_dragon " > <victoria_dragon > 4. !FEEL BETTER FAST! > " samedb <samedb " > <samedb > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 1 > Thu, 9 Jan 2003 10:47:34 -0800 (PST) > brian bullock <reiki_now > Re: Digest Number 729 > > before anyone uses the word " fiasco " and tcm in the > same tale... check out the stats on staph infections > and hospital visits...let me know what you find... > the folks with infections are due refund and perhaps > re-treatment with clean needles for free...that is > fair and traditional... if the practitioner had made > themselves subject to regulation/ license then legal > response is in order. > > Regulation is a good way to provide jobs to the > children and friends of present bureaucrats.. no one > is forcing anyone to use any alternative treatments- > as far as I know- and I am sure that far more people > using western medicine in the Americas die each year > than those who are use acupuncture. > Stay clear on these points and you'll find there is > very little to discuss. > If your arm has been torn off by a bear, you might > wish to try a surgeon.. if your relatively healthy > and understand that your well being is YOUR > RESPONSIBILITY and you wish to remain healthy... > you might get massage & acupressure, do chi > kung/yoga > drink lots of clean water... eat non-bioengineered > food from a reliable source... choose from low on > the > food chain... do the above regularly and see your > Western & Chinese doctors when you need them... > engage > spirit daily...suggest this to anyone who has a > human > body..OK..? > (one might also get boils on one's butt from sitting > in an office for 30 years...note the absurdity of > pulling your bosses business license in this > situation) > > > --- Chinese Traditional Medicine wrote: > > > > Post message: Chinese Traditional Medicine > > Subscribe: > Chinese Traditional Medicine- > > Un: > > Chinese Traditional Medicine- > > List owner: Chinese Traditional Medicine-owner > > > > Shortcut URL to this page: > > /community/Chinese Traditional Medicine > > > ------ > > > > There are 3 messages in this issue. > > > > Topics in this digest: > > > > 1. Re: Contaminated needles ? > > Al Stone > > <alstone > > 2. Re: Contaminated needles ? > > " Junya Ho " <junya.ho > > 3. Re: Contaminated needles ? > > Al Stone > > <alstone > > > > > > > ______________________ > > > ______________________ > > > > Message: 1 > > Wed, 08 Jan 2003 11:11:36 -0800 > > Al Stone <alstone > > Re: Contaminated needles ? > > > > One way to handle this may be to have the > regulatory > > agency for Ontario > > put her licensure on probation or revoke it. > > > > In California we have some rather specific rules > in > > regards to needle > > sterilization, should one chose to use an > autoclave, > > it must be actually > > inspected by the government (as I recall). But its > > sort of a moot point > > around here because nobody uses reusable needles, > > the disposible needles > > are cheap and easy to use. > > > > I would come down on her legally, support the > > actions that tell people > > that when an acupuncturist is neglegant, they lose > > their license. > > > > Well, that's one of of working with it. The other > > half would be to show > > the results of a survey of Toronto acupuncturists > > demonstrating how 99% > > of them use disposable needles. (That is my > > assumption, probably > > accurate.) Honestly, the only people who use > > disposables here are those > > in the Chinese community that do not work with > > non-chinese speaking > > people, and probably only other recent immigrants. > > > > -al. > > > > Hugo Ramiro wrote: > > > > > > Hi all. Maybe some of you have heard of the > > fiasco in > > > Toronto (Canada) and area regarding a lady who > was > > re- > > > using unsterilised needles and apparently caused > > > several infections...something like 20 people at > > > least. The infection was characterised by white > > heads > > > developing at needled sites and boils forming > > > eventually. Nothing fatal, apparently, but > > certainly > > > very inconvenient and painful. Western medicine > > " came > > > to the rescue " of course, and we're beginning to > > deal > > > with the backlash now. > > > > > > Anyone have thoughts on this? And specifically > > anyone > > > have solid info on the potential dangers of > > > acupuncture - studies personal experiences, etc? > > The > > > bette we all understand exactly the dangers, the > > less > > > chance of being caught unprepared and the better > > we > > > can prepare for and deal with all eventualities. > > Even > > > the sort of situation where we hesitate when > > answering > > > a question regarding safety or sterility will > not > > only > > > cost us patients, but creat a bad reputation. I > > wish > > > to compile this information and make it > available > > to > > > the list and any practitioner who wants it. The > > last > > > thing I want is to be directed by paranoia and > > > senseless fear or so-called " caution " . But in > > order > > > for me to avoid thoe things, I need to be > informed > > up > > > to my eyeballs. > > > > === message truncated === ===== Knowing others is wisdom, knowing your self is Enlightenment. - Lao-Tzu Mail Plus - Powerful. 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Guest guest Posted January 11, 2003 Report Share Posted January 11, 2003 Chinese Traditional Medicine , brian bullock <reiki_now> wrote: > The greater the number of laws and restrictions, > the poorer the people who inhabit the land. > The sharper the weapons of battle and war, > the greater the troubles besetting the land. > The greater the cunning with which people are ruled, > the stranger the things which occur in the land. > The harder the rules and regulations, > the greater the number of those who will steal. Please keep in mind that this kind of thing was written for simplier, slower societies where everyone in a local area knew everyone else. AND, that what we are talking about are basic minimum regulations to ensure public safety and trust in a very populated, very diverse, very mobile society. While it is true that excessive laws and restrictions do create many problems - including the very ones they are trying to solve - it also is true that a lack of any regulation and enforcement is the opposite extreme that creates as many problems as excessive micromanaging does. Also, the safety checks and balances that existed in more " primitive " societies no longer exist in many societies today. For example, in more " primitive " societies what one's friends, family, neighbors, and community thought of one often was a deterrant to individuals giving in to any base, greedy, selfish, careless motives. Training also was more comprehensive in many " primitive " societies than today's societies. It did pay attention to things like healers' spirituality, peace of mind, moral and ethical development, inner strength, etc. Victoria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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