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Question: I eat more vegetables than recommended and less fruit; should I eat fewer vegetables?Question: I really like vegetables, but I don't each much fruit. Whenever I check my diet against the USDA pyramid recommendations I've had more vegetables than recommended, and less fruit. Does this really make a difference? Should I eat fewer vegetable?

A. No! You should not decrease your consumption of vegetables in order to eat more fruit! In fact, if we were absolutely forced to pick only one category of food here, we would pick vegetables over fruit every time. Although both of these food groups contain some fantastic antioxidant nutrients, fibers, vitamin C, and unique phytonutrients, you're not going to find significant protein, or diverse mineral sources, or diverse B vitamin sources, or many fat-soluble vitamin sources among the fruit.

Alternatively, vegetables (as a group) can provide all of these nutrients in significant amounts. That being said, we would never want to choose only one of these food categories, because both can make such fantastic contributions to an optimal diet. In addition, when you compare fruits and vegetables to the other food groups, you'll find that they have many characteristics in common. Let's now take a closer look at some of the benefits that each of these food groups can provide. Both fruits and vegetables provide our body with the richest sources of water-soluble vitamins, which are required everyday. Unlike fat-soluble vitamins (such as vitamin E, A and D), which our bodies can store for future use, the water-soluble vitamins (vitamin C and the B vitamins - B1, B2, B3, B5, B6, B12, and folic acid), are needed every single day for our bodies to function optimally since they can't be stored, or can only be stored in very small amounts. Vitamins are called essential nutrients because our bodies cannot produce them, and the best way to obtain them is through the foods that you eat.

Both fruits and vegetables also provide a rich source of newly discovered health-promoting phytonutrients (plant nutrients), such as carotenoids, flavonoids and organic acids (such as ellagic acid), which act as powerful antioxidants and are responsible for much of their coloration. That being said, some may contain phytonutrients not found in vegetables. For example an orange has more than 170 phytonutrients in its color, skin, oil, pulp, and flavor, which may protect your health, some of which are unique to oranges.

Health-promoting flavonoid phytonutrients called anthocyanins provide fruits, as well as some vegetables, with their red and purple coloration. Blueberries, plums, strawberries, apples, oranges, pears all have lustrous shades of red and purple signifying their high anthocyanin content. These phytonutrients act as powerful antioxidants that help reduce the effects of harmful free radical activity and the risk of disease. Again, there may be some of these phytonutrients that are available only in particular fruits.

Fruits also contain special enzymes that can help with digestion, which are not found in any other type of food. Papaya, for example, provides the enzyme papain, while bromelain is the well-known enzyme we get from pineapple.

While fruits and vegetables contain some similar nutrients, there are ones found in each food group that are unique. Therefore, it would be optimal if you can find some fruits that you can enjoy. If you are generally healthy and are meeting your nutrient needs by your present day diet then concerning yourself over a few daily servings of fruit while you are enjoying an abundance of vegetables may not be necessary; should you have more specific concerns about the details of your diet, we would suggest you consult with a licensed healthcare practitioner skilled in nutrition who can provide you with insights on how to best meet your individual dietary and health goals.

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Barring in salad the vegetables are cooked whereas in case of fruit it is eaten uncooked, salad included. Will this not make any difference?karthik ramanathan <karthik.ramanathan wrote: Taken from whfoods.org on the dilemma between vegetables or fruits... Eating a good mix of both would be the optimal... ----- Question: I eat more vegetables than recommended and less fruit; should I eat fewer vegetables?Question: I really like vegetables, but I don't each much

fruit. Whenever I check my diet against the USDA pyramid recommendations I've had more vegetables than recommended, and less fruit. Does this really make a difference? Should I eat fewer vegetable? A. No! You should not decrease your consumption of vegetables in order to eat more fruit! In fact, if we were absolutely forced to pick only one category of food here, we would pick vegetables over fruit every time. Although both of these food groups contain some fantastic antioxidant nutrients, fibers, vitamin C, and unique phytonutrients, you're not going to find significant protein, or diverse mineral sources, or diverse B vitamin sources, or many fat-soluble vitamin sources among the fruit. Alternatively, vegetables (as a group) can provide all of these nutrients in significant amounts. That being said, we would never want to choose only one of these food categories, because both can make

such fantastic contributions to an optimal diet. In addition, when you compare fruits and vegetables to the other food groups, you'll find that they have many characteristics in common. Let's now take a closer look at some of the benefits that each of these food groups can provide. Both fruits and vegetables provide our body with the richest sources of water-soluble vitamins, which are required everyday. Unlike fat-soluble vitamins (such as vitamin E, A and D), which our bodies can store for future use, the water-soluble vitamins (vitamin C and the B vitamins - B1, B2, B3, B5, B6, B12, and folic acid), are needed every single day for our bodies to function optimally since they can't be stored, or can only be stored in very small amounts. Vitamins are called essential nutrients because our bodies cannot produce them, and the best way to obtain them is through the foods that you eat. Both fruits

and vegetables also provide a rich source of newly discovered health-promoting phytonutrients (plant nutrients), such as carotenoids, flavonoids and organic acids (such as ellagic acid), which act as powerful antioxidants and are responsible for much of their coloration. That being said, some may contain phytonutrients not found in vegetables. For example an orange has more than 170 phytonutrients in its color, skin, oil, pulp, and flavor, which may protect your health, some of which are unique to oranges. Health-promoting flavonoid phytonutrients called anthocyanins provide fruits, as well as some vegetables, with their red and purple coloration. Blueberries, plums, strawberries, apples, oranges, pears all have lustrous shades of red and purple signifying their high anthocyanin content. These phytonutrients act as powerful antioxidants that help reduce the effects of harmful free radical activity

and the risk of disease. Again, there may be some of these phytonutrients that are available only in particular fruits. Fruits also contain special enzymes that can help with digestion, which are not found in any other type of food. Papaya, for example, provides the enzyme papain, while bromelain is the well-known enzyme we get from pineapple. While fruits and vegetables contain some similar nutrients, there are ones found in each food group that are unique. Therefore, it would be optimal if you can find some fruits that you can enjoy. If you are generally healthy and are meeting your nutrient needs by your present day diet then concerning yourself over a few daily servings of fruit while you are enjoying an abundance of vegetables may not be necessary; should you have more specific concerns about the details of your diet, we would suggest you consult with a

licensed healthcare practitioner skilled in nutrition who can provide you with insights on how to best meet your individual dietary and health goals.

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I was also thinking the same - that fruits should be better than veggies if we are to pick one of the two. The reason, as you mention, is that you can eat them raw and we also have a class of people fruitarians who eat only fruits. But may be, veggies have more nutrients and phytonutrients than what I assumed them to be.

On Jan 2, 2008 6:22 PM, Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjya wrote:

 

Barring in salad the vegetables are cooked whereas in case of fruit it is eaten uncooked, salad included. Will this not make any difference?

 

karthik ramanathan <karthik.ramanathan wrote:

 

 

Taken from whfoods.org on the dilemma between vegetables or fruits... Eating a good mix of both would be the optimal...

 

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Question: I eat more vegetables than recommended and less fruit; should I eat fewer vegetables?Question: I really like vegetables, but I don't each much fruit. Whenever I check my diet against the USDA pyramid recommendations I've had more vegetables than recommended, and less fruit. Does this really make a difference? Should I eat fewer vegetable?

A. No! You should not decrease your consumption of vegetables in order to eat more fruit! In fact, if we were absolutely forced to pick only one category of food here, we would pick vegetables over fruit every time. Although both of these food groups contain some fantastic antioxidant nutrients, fibers, vitamin C, and unique phytonutrients, you're not going to find significant protein, or diverse mineral sources, or diverse B vitamin sources, or many fat-soluble vitamin sources among the fruit. Alternatively, vegetables (as a group) can provide all of these nutrients in significant amounts. That being said, we would never want to choose only one of these food categories, because both can make such fantastic contributions to an optimal diet. In addition, when you compare fruits and vegetables to the other food groups, you'll find that they have many characteristics in common. Let's now take a closer look at some of the benefits that each of these food groups can provide. Both fruits and vegetables provide our body with the richest sources of water-soluble vitamins, which are required everyday. Unlike fat-soluble vitamins (such as vitamin E, A and D), which our bodies can store for future use, the water-soluble vitamins (vitamin C and the B vitamins - B1, B2, B3, B5, B6, B12, and folic acid), are needed every single day for our bodies to function optimally since they can't be stored, or can only be stored in very small amounts. Vitamins are called essential nutrients because our bodies cannot produce them, and the best way to obtain them is through the foods that you eat.

Both fruits and vegetables also provide a rich source of newly discovered health-promoting phytonutrients (plant nutrients), such as carotenoids, flavonoids and organic acids (such as ellagic acid), which act as powerful antioxidants and are responsible for much of their coloration. That being said, some may contain phytonutrients not found in vegetables. For example an orange has more than 170 phytonutrients in its color, skin, oil, pulp, and flavor, which may protect your health, some of which are unique to oranges.

Health-promoting flavonoid phytonutrients called anthocyanins provide fruits, as well as some vegetables, with their red and purple coloration. Blueberries, plums, strawberries, apples, oranges, pears all have lustrous shades of red and purple signifying their high anthocyanin content. These phytonutrients act as powerful antioxidants that help reduce the effects of harmful free radical activity and the risk of disease. Again, there may be some of these phytonutrients that are available only in particular fruits.

Fruits also contain special enzymes that can help with digestion, which are not found in any other type of food. Papaya, for example, provides the enzyme papain, while bromelain is the well-known enzyme we get from pineapple.

While fruits and vegetables contain some similar nutrients, there are ones found in each food group that are unique. Therefore, it would be optimal if you can find some fruits that you can enjoy. If you are generally healthy and are meeting your nutrient needs by your present day diet then concerning yourself over a few daily servings of fruit while you are enjoying an abundance of vegetables may not be necessary; should you have more specific concerns about the details of your diet, we would suggest you consult with a licensed healthcare practitioner skilled in nutrition who can provide you with insights on how to best meet your individual dietary and health goals.

 

 

 

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And yet, despite it being the fruit season here with many beautiful berry fruits seasonally available my Dr tested me using the AVR diagnostic technique she uses and declared that I was to come off all fruits for a month and eat vegetables and nuts and seeds only and I know it was more than the acidic quality of fruits that was involved. Possibly vegetables, especially green leafy vegetables - offer more than fruits in the way of vitamins and minerals and then we have the mineral rich root and tuber vegetables as well - I guess not everyone can handle that much sugar offered by a fruit rich diet?

 

Best,

 

Jane

 

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karthik ramanathan

Thursday, January 03, 2008 10:54 AM

Re: [HealthyIndia] Vegetables or fruits...

I was also thinking the same - that fruits should be better than veggies if we are to pick one of the two. The reason, as you mention, is that you can eat them raw and we also have a class of people fruitarians who eat only fruits. But may be, veggies have more nutrients and phytonutrients than what I assumed them to be.

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I have read at various places about the sugar in the fruits may not be easily handled by everyone though these sugars are different from the refined ones (in terms of their entaglement in various fibers, so the sugar is released more slowly). Also, fruit fast works wonders (in terms of detoxing) for a few people but at the same time doesn't help much for a few others. So eating fruits would work only for a few people I guess. And it is always best to observe and see how we (the body) reacts to the food before consume more of that or make it habitual.

On 1/3/08, Jane MacRoss <highfield1 wrote:

 

 

And yet, despite it being the fruit season here with many beautiful berry fruits seasonally available my Dr tested me using the AVR diagnostic technique she uses and declared that I was to come off all fruits for a month and eat vegetables and nuts and seeds only and I know it was more than the acidic quality of fruits that was involved. Possibly vegetables, especially green leafy vegetables - offer more than fruits in the way of vitamins and minerals and then we have the mineral rich root and tuber vegetables as well - I guess not everyone can handle that much sugar offered by a fruit rich diet?

 

 

Best,

 

Jane

 

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karthik ramanathan

 

 

 

Thursday, January 03, 2008 10:54 AM

Re: [HealthyIndia] Vegetables or fruits...

I was also thinking the same - that fruits should be better than veggies if we are to pick one of the two. The reason, as you mention, is that you can eat them raw and we also have a class of people fruitarians who eat only fruits. But may be, veggies have more nutrients and phytonutrients than what I assumed them to be.

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Yes. The diabetecs have to take care not to take much of banana, mango, pineapple and and fruits like these.karthik ramanathan <karthik.ramanathan wrote: I have read at various places about the sugar in the fruits may not be easily handled by everyone though these sugars are different from the refined ones (in terms of their entaglement in various fibers, so the sugar is released more slowly). Also, fruit fast works wonders (in terms of detoxing) for a few people but at the same time doesn't help much for a few others. So eating fruits would

work only for a few people I guess. And it is always best to observe and see how we (the body) reacts to the food before consume more of that or make it habitual. On 1/3/08, Jane MacRoss <highfield1 (AT) activ8 (DOT) net.au> wrote: And yet, despite it being the fruit season here with many beautiful berry fruits seasonally available my Dr tested me using the AVR diagnostic technique she uses and declared that I was to come off all fruits for a month and eat vegetables and nuts and seeds only and I know it was more than the acidic quality of fruits that was involved. Possibly vegetables, especially green leafy vegetables - offer more than fruits in the way of vitamins and

minerals and then we have the mineral rich root and tuber vegetables as well - I guess not everyone can handle that much sugar offered by a fruit rich diet? Best, Jane - karthik ramanathan Thursday, January 03, 2008 10:54 AM Re: [HealthyIndia] Vegetables or fruits... I was also thinking the same - that fruits should be better than veggies if we are to pick one of the two. The reason, as you mention, is that you can eat them raw and we also have a class of people fruitarians who eat only fruits. But may be, veggies have more nutrients and phytonutrients than what I assumed them to be.

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Since so much is being written about food in discussion groups,

websites, one is often confused. There are some guiding prinicples

outside modern science which confuses issues by bringing in its own

jargon(terms such as flavonides, caretenoids, phytonutrients).

 

Acc. to ayurveda, each individual is unique. though fruits and

vegetables are good in general, there can be individuals for whom

certain fruit/vegetable is unsuitable or even dangerous. Author kept

researching on this issue and found that there are several who are

allergic to orange, apple, pineapple etc. Are you aware that Brinjal

has small amount of nicotine?

 

Author has given tests

which can be made by non-practitioners too, to decide which food, raw

food, oil, is suitable to each individual. the tests readily

accessible by clicking on:

 

http://health.ayurveda/message/3055

http://health.ayurveda/message/4511

 

They will reveal the effect of the food, drink on the body. We

should not go by instant relaxation felt in mind, but also look at

whether body is fighting to remove the toxins from the

food/drink/smoke. These have been devised by people with deep

insight, and especially used on cancer patients.

 

Those living in Indian villages, having access to even small amount

of Indian cow milk, can carry out these tests and see the difference

between Indian cow milk and Jersey cow milk. Take both of them in

identical condition, preferably raw, freshly milked.

 

Living healthy is like Tantra, 98% practice, 2% theory.

 

 

 

, " karthik ramanathan "

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> Taken from whfoods.org on the dilemma between vegetables or

fruits... Eating

> a good mix of both would be the optimal...