Possible Replay of Swine flu has dangers for some.

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Alternative medicine is concerned.  In homoeopathic treatment there is a very

porent medicine for this FLU.  It is Arsenic Alb. I have done quite a bit of

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To some of us who have been  around awhile, the " Swine flu " vaccination

sounds familiar, the same name was  given to an impending " epidemic, like 1918 "

back in 1976, Subsequently many  people came down with Guillan-Barre

syndrome, paralyzing illness, that the  Government knew about, but did not

reveal

the risks. See the transcript from the  " 60 Minutes " program from 1979.. 

60 MINUTES, Sunday Nov 4,  1979

 

" SWINE FLU "

 

MIKE WALLACE: The flu season is upon us.  Which type will we worry about

this year, and what kind of shots will we be  told to take? Remember the

swine flu scare of 1976? That was the year the  U.S. government told us

all that swine flu could turn out to be a killer that  could spread

across the nation, and Washington decided that every man, woman  and

child in the nation should get a shot to prevent a nation-wide  outbreak,

a pandemic.

 

Well 46 million of us obediently took the shot,  and now 4,000 Americans

are claiming damages from Uncle Sam amounting to  three and a half

billion dollars because of what happened when they took that  shot. By

far the greatest number of the claims - two thirds of them are  for

neurological damage, or even death, allegedly triggered by the flu  shot.

 

We pick up the story back in 1976, when the threat posed by the  swine

flu virus seemed very real indeed.

 

PRESIDENT GERALD FORD; This  virus was the cause of a pandemic in 1918

and 1919 that resulted in over half  a million deaths in the United

States, as well as 20 million deaths around  the world.

 

WALLACE: Thus the U.S. government's publicity machine was  cranked into

action to urge all America to protect itself against the swine  flu

menace. (Excerpt from TV commercial urging everyone to get a swine  flu

shot.) One of those who did roll up her sleeve was Judy Roberts. She  was

perfectly healthy, an active woman, when, in November of 1976, she  took

her shot. Two weeks later, she says, she began to feel a  numbness

starting up her legs.

 

JUDY ROBERTS: And I joked about it at  that time. I said I'll be numb to

the knees by Friday if this keeps up. By  the following week, I was

totally paralyzed.

 

WALLACE: So completely  paralyzed, in fact, that they had to operate on

her to enable her to breathe.  And for six months, Judy Roberts was a

quadriplegic. The diagnosis: A  neurological disorder called

" Guillian-Barre Syndrome " - GBS for short. These  neurological diseases

are little understood. They affect people in different  ways.

 

As you can see in these home movies taken by a friend, Judy  Roberts'

paralysis confined her mostly to a wheelchair for over a year. But  this

disease can even kill. Indeed, there are 300 claims now pending from  the

families of GBS victims who died, alledgedly as a result of the  swine

flu shot. In other GBS victims, the crippling effects diminish and  all

but disappear. But for Judy Roberts, progress back to good health  has

been painful and partial.

 

Now, I notice that your smile, Judy, is  a little bit constricted.

 

ROBERTS: Yes, it is.

 

WALLACE: Is it  different from what it used to be?

 

ROBERTS: Very different, I have a - a  greatly decreased mobility in my

lips. AndI can't drink through a straw on  the right-band side. I can't

blow out birthday candles. I don't whistle any  more, for which my

husband is grateful.

 

WALLACE: It may be a little  difficult for you to answer this question,

but have you recovered as much as  you are going to recover?

 

ROBERTS: Yes. This - this is  it.

 

WALLACE: So you will now have a legacy of braces on your legs for  the

rest of your life?

 

ROBERTS: Yes. The weakness in my hands will  stay and the leg braces will

stay.

 

WALLACE: So Judy Roberts and her  husband have filed a claim against the

U.S. government. They're asking $12  million, though they don't expect to

get nearly that much. Judy, why did you  take the flu shot?

 

ROBERTS: I'd never taken any other flu shots, but I  felt like this was

going to be a major epidemic, and the only way to prevent  a major

epidemic of a - a really deadly variety of flu was for every body to  be

immunized.

 

WALLACE: Where did this so called " deadly variety of  flu " , where did it

first hit back in 1976? It began right here at Fort Dix in  New Jersey in

January of that year, when a number of recruits began to  complain of

respiratory ailments, something like the common cold. An Army  doctor

here sent samples of their throat cultures to the New Jersey  Public

Health Lab to find our just what kind of bug was going around here.  One

of those samples was from a Private David Lewis, who had left his  sick

bed to go on a forced march. Private Lewis had collapsed on that  march,

and his sergeant had revived him by mouth-to-mouth resuscitation.  But

the sergeant showed no signs of illness. A few days later, Private  Lewis

died.

 

ROBERTS: If this disease is so potentially fatal that it's  going to kill

a young, healthy man, a middle-aged schoolteacher doesn't have  a prayer.

 

WALLACE: The New Jersey lab identified most of those solders'  throat

cultures as the normal kind of flu virus going around that year,  but

they could not make out what kind of virus was in the culture from  the

dead soldier, and from four others who were sick. So they sent  those

cultures to the Federal Center for Disease Control in Atlanta,  Georgia,

for further study. A few days later they got the verdict: swine flu.  But

that much-publicized outbreak of swine flu at Fort Dix involved  only

Private Lewis, who died, and those four other soldiers, who  recovered

completely without the swine flu shot.

 

ROBERTS: If I had  known at that time that the boy had been in a sick

bed, got up, went out on a  forced march and then collapsed and died, I

would never have taken the  shot.

 

DR DAVID SENCER: The rationale for our recommendation was not on  the

basis of the death of a - a single individual, but it was on the  basis

that when we do see a change in the characteristics of the  influenza

virus, it is a massive public-health problem in the  country.

 

WALLACE: Dr David Sencer, then head of the CDC - the Center of  Disease

Control in Atlanta - is now in private industry. He devised the  swine

flu program and he pushed it.

 

You began to give flu shots to the  American people in October of '76?

 

DR SENCER: October  1st.

 

WALLACE: By that time, how many cases of swine flu around the world  had

been reported?

 

DR SENCER: There had been several reported, but  none confirmed. There

had been cases in Australia that were reported by the  press, by the news

media. There were cases in -

 

WALLACE: None  confirmed? Did you ever uncover any other outbreaks of

swine flu anywhere in  the world?

 

DR SENCER: No

 

WALLACE: Now, nearly everyone was to  receive a shot in a public health

facility where a doctor might not be  present, therefore it was up to the

CDC to come up with some kind of official  consent form giving the public

all the information it needed about the swine  flu shot. This form stated

that the swine flu vaccine had been tested. What  it didn't say was that

after those tests were completed, the scientists  developed another

vaccine and that it was the one given to most of the 46  million who took

the shot. That vaccine was called " X-53a " . Was X-53a ever  field tested?

 

DR SENCER: I-I can't say. I would have to -

 

WALLACE:  It wasn't

 

DR SENCER: I don't know

 

WALLACE: Well, I would think  that you're in charge of the program

 

DR SENCER: 1 would have to check the  records. I haven't looked at this

in some time.

 

WALLACE: The  information form the consent form was also supposed to warn

people about any  risk of serious complications following the shot. But

did it?

 

ROBERTS:  No, I had never heard of any reactions other than a sore arm,

fever, this  sort of thing.

 

WALLACE: Judy Roberts' husband, Gene, also took the  shot.

 

GENE ROBERTS: Yes, I looked at that document, I signed it. Nothing  on

there said I was going to have a heart attack, or I can get  Guillain

Barre, which I'd never heard of.

 

WALLACE: What if people from  the government, from the Center for Disease

Control, what if they had indeed,  known about it, what would be your

feeling?

 

JUDY ROBERTS: They should  have told us.

 

WALLACE: Did anyone ever come to you and say, " You know  something,

fellows, there's the possibility of neurological damage if you get  into

a mass immunization program? "

 

DR SENCER: No

 

WALLACE: No  one ever did?

 

DR SENCER: No

 

WALLACE: Do you know Michael  Hattwick?

 

DR SENCER: Yes, uh-hmm.

 

WALLACE: Dr Michael Hattwick  directed the surveillance team for the

swine flu program at the CDC. His job  was to find out what possible

complications could arise from taking the shot  and to report his

findings to those in charge. Did you know ahead of time, Dr  Hattwick

that there had been case reports of neurological disorders,  neurological

illness, apparently associated with the injection of influenza  vaccine?

 

DR MICHAEL HNITWlCK: Absolutely

 

WALLACE: You  did?

 

DR HATIWICK: Yes

 

WALLACE: How did you know that?

 

DR  HATrwICK: By review of the literature.

 

WALLACE: So you told your  superiors - the men in charge of the swine flu

immunization program - about  the possibility of neurological disorders?

 

DR RATTWICK:  Absolutely

 

WALLACE: What would you say if I told you that your superiors  say that

you never told them about the possibility of neurological  complications?

 

DR HAJTWICK: That's nonsense. I can't believe that they  would say that

they did not know that there were neurological illnesses  associated with

influenza vaccination. That simply is not true. We did know  that.

 

DR SENCER: I have said that Dr Hattwick had never told me of  his

feelings on this subject.

 

WALLACE: Then he's lying?

 

DR  SENCER: I guess you would have to make that assumption.

 

WALLACE: Then why  does this report from your own agency, dated July

1976, list neurological  complications as a possibility?

 

DR SENCER: I think the consensus of the  scientific community was that

the evidence relating neurologic disorders to  influenza immunization was

such that they did not feel that this association  was a real one.

 

WALLACE: You didn't feel it was necessary to tell the  American people

that information

 

DR SENCER: I think that over the -  the years we have tried to inform the

American people as - as fully as  possible.

 

WALLACE: As part of informing Americans about the swine flu  threat, Dr

Sencer's CDC also helped create the advertising to get the public  to

take the shot. Let me read to your from one of your own agency's  memos

planning the campaign to urge Americans to take the shot. " The swine  flu

vaccine has been taken by many important persons, " he wrote.  " Example:

President Ford, Henry Kissinger, Elton John, Muhammad Ah, Mary  Tyler

Moore, Rudolf Nureyev, Walter Cronkite, Ralph Nader, Edward  Kennedy "

-etcetera, etcetera, True?

 

DR SENCER: I'm not familiar with  that particular piece of paper, but I

do know that, at least of that group,  President Ford did take the

vaccination.

 

WALLACE: Did you talk to  these people beforehand to find out if they

planned to take the  shot?

 

DR SENCER: I did not, no.

 

WALLACE: Did anybody?

 

DR  SENC ER: I do not know.

 

WALLACE: Did you get permission to use their  names in your campaign?

 

DR SENCER: I do not know.

 

WALLACE: Mary,  did you take a swine flu shot?

 

MARY TYLER MOORE: No, I did  not.

 

WALLACE: Did you give them permission to use your name saying that  you

had or were going to?

 

MOORE: Absolutely not. Never  did.

 

WALLACE: Did you ask your own doctor about taking the swine flu  shot?

 

MOORE: Yes, and at the time he thought it might be a good idea. But  I

resisted it, because I was leery of having the symptoms that  sometimes

go with that kind of inoculation.

 

WALLACE: So you  didn't?

 

MOORE: No, I didn't.

 

WALLACE: Have you spoken to your  doctor since?

 

MOORE: Yes.

 

WALLACE: And?

 

MOORE: He's  delighted that I didn't take that shot.

 

WALLACE: You're in charge.  Somebody's in charge.

 

DR SENCER: There are -

 

WALLACE: This is your  advertising strategy that I have a copy of here..

 

DR SENCER: Who's it  signed by?

 

WALLACE: This one is unsigned. But you--you'll acknowledge  that it was

your baby so to speak?

 

DR SENCER: It could have been from  the Department of Health, Education

and Welfare. It could be from CDC. I  don't know. I'll be happy to take

responsibility for it.

 

WALLACE: It's  been three years now since you fell ill by GBS right?

 

ROBERTS:  Right.

 

WALLACE: Has the federal government, in your estimation, played  fair

with you about your claim?

 

ROBERTS: No, I don't think so. It  seems to be dragging on and on and on,

and really no end in sight that I can  see at this point.

 

JOSEPH CALIFANO: With respect to the cases of Guillain  Barre...

 

WALLACE: Former Secretary of HEW Joseph Califano, too was  disturbed that

there was no end in sight. So a year and a half ago, he  proposed that

Uncle Sam would cut the bureaucratic red tape for victims  suffering from

GBS and would pay up quickly.

 

CALIFANO: We shouldn't  hold them to an impossible or too difficult

standard of proving that they  were hurt. Even if we pay a few people a

few thousand dollars that might not  have deserved it, I think justice

requires that we promptly pay those people  who do deserve it.

 

WALLACE: Who's making the decision to be so hard-nosed  about settling?

 

CALIFANO: Well, I assume the Justice Department  is.

 

WALLACE: Griffin Bell, before he left?

 

CALIFANO: Well, the  Justice Department agreed to the statement I made..

It was cleared word for  word with the lawyers in the Justice Department

by my HEW  lawyers.

 

CALIFANO: That-that statement said that we should pay Guillain  Barre

claims without regard to whether the federal government was  negligent,

if they - if they resulted from the swine flu shot.

 

GENE  ROBERTS: I think the government knows its wrong.

 

JUDY ROBERTS: If it  drags out long enough, that people will just give

up, let it go.

 

GENE  ROBERTS: I-I am a little more adament in my thoughts than my wife

is, because  I asked - told Judy to take the shot. She wasn't going to

take it, and she  never had had shots. And I'm mad with my government

because they knew the  fact, but they didn't realise those facts because

they - if they had released  them, the people wouldn't have taken it. And

they can come out tomorrow and  tell me there's going to be an epidemic,

and they can drop off like flies to  - next to me, I will not take

another shot that my government tells me to  take.

 

WALLACE: Meantime, Judy Roberts and some 4,000 others like her are  still

waiting for their day in court.

 

Sound familiar? Don't doom  yourself to repeating history; as I am sure

" they " are planning another    " swine " flu vaccine program in late

summer/early

fall.  THE VACCINE WILL BE  WHAT KILLS MILLIONS, JUST LIKE IN 1918.  If you

did not hear " What's Ailing  America " on _www.republicbroadcasting.org_

(http://www.republicbroadcasting.org/)  last Sat (5/2), I strongly  suggest

you

listen to the archive. One of my guests, Jane Burgermeister from  Austria,

describes how she has filed criminal charges against Baxter Int'l for 

release of the bird flu virus into Europe.  Also discussed was that  packages

of

the " Mexican " flu were sent to Switerland, and exploded on subway  cars with

dry ice bombs.  They are right in our face with their genocidal  crimes

against humanity, and people are waking up BIGTIME.  I have done 15  shows

this

past week, with many more are scheduled about this bioweapon attack  on the

people of the world.

On an extreme " up " note, I have joined forces with ex-Marine Drew Raines,

his  website is _http://www.amd.elequity.com/_ (http://www.amd.elequity.com/)

...  Listen to the archives of  his show on 4/24 and 5/1 where I was his

guest, and he had to do all kinds of  fancy footwork to keep me on the air. 

Majors, colonels, enlisted soldiers  all over the world and veterans were

listening and asking questions. THE  MILITARY IS NOW REALIZING THAT THE ENEMY

IS

WITHIN AND THEY ARE BEING KILLED OFF  WITH INOCULATIONS.  When this

realization reaches critical mass, the enemy  will have a problem.

I will be on his show again on 5/15 from 5-7 EST, and he will be my guest 

this Saturday.  Take heart, because for me to form an alliance with the 

military is the enemy's worst nightmare.  If you know anyone in the armed 

forces, please forward them this e-mail.

Sempre Fi,

Dr Carley

 

 

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