Herbal cure for diabetes type 2 ?????

[Guest guest]

Hi Am Dr. Karen although VERY doubtful about herbs and alternative med

but recently came in contact with a person who after some heated

exchanges about the so called herbal meds showed me a tree and how to

use it for curing diabetes. Out of curiosity tried it on four recently

diagnosed diabetics with blood sugar levels ranging from 394 to 244

and to my surprise their blood sugar levels are still within normal

range even after a month. I am still looking for some rational

explanation but I am at loss to explain this. Maybe someone could help

me explaining what happened. I am postgraduate MD doctor who all my

life ridiculed the herbal medicines. Frankly am ashamed to even

discuss this with my seniors. AND IF this is really true would like to

share with all. What I cannot understand why even after not taking any

hypogly agents and NO DIETRY controls their blood sugar levels are

normal. Any explanation please or similar experience encountered.

[Guest guest]

Can you give us more details Karen?

 

Jane

 

-

" krnkoomar " <krnkoomar

 

Tuesday, April 01, 2008 8:51 PM

Herbal cure for diabetes type 2 ?????

 

 

Hi Am Dr. Karen although VERY doubtful about herbs and alternative med

but recently came in contact with a person who after some heated

exchanges about the so called herbal meds showed me a tree and how to

use it for curing diabetes. Frankly out of curiosity tried it on four

recently diagnosed diabetics with blood sugar levels ranging from 394

to 244 and to my surprise their blood sugar levels are still within

normal range even after a month. I am still looking for some rational

explanation but I am at loss to explain this. Maybe someone could help

me explaining what happened. I am postgraduate MD doctor who all my

life ridiculed the herbal medicines. Frankly am ashamed to even

discuss this with my seniors. AND IF this is really true would like to

share with all. What I cannot understand why even after not taking any

hypogly agents and NO DIETRY controls what so ever their blood sugar

levels are normal. Any explanation please or similar experience

encountered.

 

 

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At 04:19 PM 4/1/2008, you wrote:

Please - what tree was this? I'm curious, you're not from the US are you?

Postgraduate MD is not usually a term we use over here. Is it?

Lynn

Can you give us more details

Karen?

Jane

-

" krnkoomar "

<krnkoomar

To:

<

>

Tuesday, April 01, 2008 8:51 PM

Herbal cure for diabetes type 2

?????

Hi Am Dr. Karen although VERY doubtful about herbs and alternative

med

but recently came in contact with a person who after some heated

exchanges about the so called herbal meds showed me a tree and how

to

use it for curing diabetes. Frankly out of curiosity tried it on

four

recently diagnosed diabetics with blood sugar levels ranging from

394

to 244 and to my surprise their blood sugar levels are still within

normal range even after a month. I am still looking for some

rational

explanation but I am at loss to explain this. Maybe someone could

help

me explaining what happened. I am postgraduate MD doctor who all my

life ridiculed the herbal medicines. Frankly am ashamed to even

discuss this with my seniors. AND IF this is really true would like

to

share with all. What I cannot understand why even after not taking

any

hypogly agents and NO DIETRY controls what so ever their blood sugar

levels are normal. Any explanation please or similar experience

encountered.

-

[Guest guest]

Possibly cinnamon Lynn?

 

And India or Pakistan?

 

Jane

 

-

Lynn Ward

Wednesday, April 02, 2008 10:07 AM

Re: Herbal cure for diabetes type 2 ?????

At 04:19 PM 4/1/2008, you wrote:Please - what tree was this? I'm curious, you're not from the US are you? Postgraduate MD is not usually a term we use over here. Is it?Lynn

Can you give us more details Karen?Jane- "krnkoomar" <krnkoomar< >Tuesday, April 01, 2008 8:51 PM Herbal cure for diabetes type 2 ?????Hi Am Dr. Karen although VERY doubtful about herbs and alternative medbut recently came in contact with a person who after some heatedexchanges about the so called herbal meds showed me a tree and how touse it for curing diabetes. Frankly out of curiosity tried it on fourrecently diagnosed diabetics with blood sugar levels ranging from 394to 244 and to my surprise their blood sugar levels are still withinnormal range even after a month. I am still looking for some rationalexplanation but I am at loss to explain this. Maybe someone could helpme explaining what happened. I am postgraduate MD doctor who all mylife ridiculed the herbal medicines. Frankly am ashamed to evendiscuss this with my seniors. AND IF this is really true would like toshare with all. What I cannot understand why even after not taking anyhypogly agents and NO DIETRY controls what so ever their blood sugarlevels are normal. Any explanation please or similar experienceencountered.-

[Guest guest]

Hi Lynn, Ur right only MD is used over in US I worked for 5 years aat Prov hosp but for the last 3 years am back in India. Now to my query since I am not a botanist I only know the local name of the tree. In local lingo its called bhel. But frankly speaking I am very tense after this becaause I would not like something really important going waste, AND TRUST me I DONOT WANT TO USE IT FOR ANY COMMERCIAL gain but want to have some answers. In India there are LOTS of herbal medicines available for everything from Ca to HIV etc but sadly I have not seen any one showing any real improvement. Above all the use was really simple crush the part soaak it overnight and drink the water. I myself drank the mixed water, itwas not sweet or bitter rather tasteless. There was some mucoid like secretion in the root maaybe that is the active ingredient. For this reason I am really very curious to know IF at all do herbal meds cure. I

donot want to make a fool of myself. Any similar effect seen by u or anyone else. Really looking forwaard to have some answers. If u want caan fedex the portion of root and u can see for urself the result. KKoomar Lynn Ward <lynnward wrote: At 04:19 PM 4/1/2008, you wrote: Please - what tree was this? I'm curious, you're not from the US are you? Postgraduate MD is not usually a term we use over here. Is it? Lynn Can you give us more details Karen? Jane - "krnkoomar" <krnkoomar < > Tuesday, April 01, 2008 8:51 PM Herbal cure for diabetes type 2 ????? Hi Am Dr. Karen although VERY doubtful about herbs and alternative med but recently came in contact with a person who after some heated exchanges about the so called herbal meds showed me a tree and how to use it for curing diabetes. Frankly out of curiosity tried it on four recently diagnosed diabetics with blood sugar levels ranging from 394 to 244 and to my surprise their blood sugar levels are still within normal range even after a month. I am still looking for some rational explanation but I am at loss to explain this. Maybe someone could help me explaining what happened. I am postgraduate MD doctor who all my life ridiculed the herbal medicines. Frankly am ashamed to even discuss this with my seniors. AND IF this is really true would like to

share with all. What I cannot understand why even after not taking any hypogly agents and NO DIETRY controls what so ever their blood sugar levels are normal. Any explanation please or similar experience encountered. -

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Hmmmmm.......maybe someone kidding.Den 02/04/2008 kl. 08.50 skrev Jane MacRoss:Possibly cinnamon Lynn? And India or Pakistan? Jane-Lynn Ward Wednesday, April 02, 2008 10:07 AMRe: Herbal cure for diabetes type 2 ?????At 04:19 PM 4/1/2008, you wrote:Please - what tree was this? I'm curious, you're not from the US are you? Postgraduate MD is not usually a term we use over here. Is it?LynnCan you give us more details Karen?Jane- "krnkoomar" <krnkoomar >< >Tuesday, April 01, 2008 8:51 PM Herbal cure for diabetes type 2 ?????Hi Am Dr. Karen although VERY doubtful about herbs and alternative medbut recently came in contact with a person who after some heatedexchanges about the so called herbal meds showed me a tree and how touse it for curing diabetes. Frankly out of curiosity tried it on fourrecently diagnosed diabetics with blood sugar levels ranging from 394to 244 and to my surprise their blood sugar levels are still withinnormal range even after a month. I am still looking for some rationalexplanation but I am at loss to explain this. Maybe someone could helpme explaining what happened. I am postgraduate MD doctor who all mylife ridiculed the herbal medicines. Frankly am ashamed to evendiscuss this with my seniors. AND IF this is really true would like toshare with all. What I cannot understand why even after not taking anyhypogly agents and NO DIETRY controls what so ever their blood sugarlevels are normal. Any explanation please or similar experienceencountered.-

[Guest guest]

Enticing I think

 

partly cos I just been watching James Bond on TV lol - seriously!!

 

Its like oh tell me more tell me more and then

 

Only US$99,95 a bottle

 

You know the sort of enticement!

 

-

Kenn Johnsen

Wednesday, April 02, 2008 9:10 PM

Re: Herbal cure for diabetes type 2 ?????

Hmmmmm.......maybe someone kidding.

 

 

 

Den 02/04/2008 kl. 08.50 skrev Jane MacRoss:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Possibly cinnamon Lynn?

 

And India or Pakistan?

 

Jane

 

-

Lynn Ward

 

Wednesday, April 02, 2008 10:07 AM

Re: Herbal cure for diabetes type 2 ?????

At 04:19 PM 4/1/2008, you wrote:Please - what tree was this? I'm curious, you're not from the US are you? Postgraduate MD is not usually a term we use over here. Is it?Lynn

Can you give us more details Karen?Jane- "krnkoomar" <krnkoomar >< >Tuesday, April 01, 2008 8:51 PM Herbal cure for diabetes type 2 ?????Hi Am Dr. Karen although VERY doubtful about herbs and alternative medbut recently came in contact with a person who after some heatedexchanges about the so called herbal meds showed me a tree and how touse it for curing diabetes. Frankly out of curiosity tried it on fourrecently diagnosed diabetics with blood sugar levels ranging from 394to 244 and to my surprise their blood sugar levels are still withinnormal range even after a month. I am still looking for some rationalexplanation but I am at loss to explain this. Maybe someone could helpme explaining what happened. I am postgraduate MD doctor who all mylife ridiculed the herbal medicines. Frankly am ashamed to evendiscuss this with my seniors. AND IF this is really true would like toshare with all. What I cannot understand why even after not taking anyhypogly agents and NO DIETRY controls what so ever their blood sugarlevels are normal. Any explanation please or similar experienceencountered.-

[Guest guest]

Yes, that could be.Den 02/04/2008 kl. 14.09 skrev Jane MacRoss:Enticing I think partly cos I just been watching James Bond on TV lol - seriously!! Its like oh tell me more tell me more and then Only US$99,95 a bottle You know the sort of enticement!-Kenn Johnsen Wednesday, April 02, 2008 9:10 PMRe: Herbal cure for diabetes type 2 ?????Hmmmmm.......maybe someone kidding.Den 02/04/2008 kl. 08.50 skrev Jane MacRoss:Possibly cinnamon Lynn? And India or Pakistan? Jane-Lynn Ward Wednesday, April 02, 2008 10:07 AMRe: Herbal cure for diabetes type 2 ?????At 04:19 PM 4/1/2008, you wrote:Please - what tree was this? I'm curious, you're not from the US are you? Postgraduate MD is not usually a term we use over here. Is it?LynnCan you give us more details Karen?Jane- "krnkoomar" <krnkoomar >< >Tuesday, April 01, 2008 8:51 PM Herbal cure for diabetes type 2 ?????Hi Am Dr. Karen although VERY doubtful about herbs and alternative medbut recently came in contact with a person who after some heatedexchanges about the so called herbal meds showed me a tree and how touse it for curing diabetes. Frankly out of curiosity tried it on fourrecently diagnosed diabetics with blood sugar levels ranging from 394to 244 and to my surprise their blood sugar levels are still withinnormal range even after a month. I am still looking for some rationalexplanation but I am at loss to explain this. Maybe someone could helpme explaining what happened. I am postgraduate MD doctor who all mylife ridiculed the herbal medicines. Frankly am ashamed to evendiscuss this with my seniors. AND IF this is really true would like toshare with all. What I cannot understand why even after not taking anyhypogly agents and NO DIETRY controls what so ever their blood sugarlevels are normal. Any explanation please or similar experienceencountered.-

[Guest guest]

At 02:50 AM 4/2/2008, you wrote:

You know, even though it makes sense, I never really realized cinnamon

came from a tree. Of course, when I think about what sticks of cinnamon

look like, it kind of fell together.

As for the post grad MD thing - I looked it up before I posted, and

apparently it's a phrase used in several countries - which still kinda

sorta left me clueless.......

Lynn

 

 

Possibly cinnamon Lynn?

 

And India or Pakistan?

 

Jane

 

 

-

Lynn Ward

To:

 

Wednesday, April 02, 2008 10:07 AM

Re: Herbal cure for diabetes type 2

?????

At 04:19 PM 4/1/2008, you wrote:

Please - what tree was this? I'm curious, you're not from the US are

you? Postgraduate MD is not usually a term we use over here. Is

it?

Lynn

 

Can you give us more details Karen?

Jane

-

" krnkoomar "

<krnkoomar

<

>

Tuesday, April 01, 2008 8:51 PM

Herbal cure for diabetes type 2

?????

Hi Am Dr. Karen although VERY doubtful about herbs and alternative

med

but recently came in contact with a person who after some heated

exchanges about the so called herbal meds showed me a tree and how

to

use it for curing diabetes. Frankly out of curiosity tried it on

four

recently diagnosed diabetics with blood sugar levels ranging from

394

to 244 and to my surprise their blood sugar levels are still

within

normal range even after a month. I am still looking for some

rational

explanation but I am at loss to explain this. Maybe someone could

help

me explaining what happened. I am postgraduate MD doctor who all

my

life ridiculed the herbal medicines. Frankly am ashamed to even

discuss this with my seniors. AND IF this is really true would like

to

share with all. What I cannot understand why even after not taking

any

hypogly agents and NO DIETRY controls what so ever their blood

sugar

levels are normal. Any explanation please or similar experience

encountered.

[Guest guest]

Hi I found this online...could this be the tree that Dr Karen Koomar is talking about?

 

Val

 

 

Mulberry Fights Diabetes

The antioxidant, antiatherosclerotic effects of mulberry are gratifying, of course (and here we’re making the assumption that the effects seen in laboratory and animal experiments would be seen in actual human beings as well), but there’s more to the story than that. Mulberry leaves have long been used in Chinese medicine for the prevention and treatment of diabetes, because, as we now know, they contain chemical compounds that suppress high blood sugar levels (hyperglycemia) following a carbohydrate-rich meal. Controlling blood sugar (glucose) levels is vitally important. When these levels rise sharply, as they do after ingesting foods with a high glycemic index, such as potatoes or sweets, the body responds by producing more insulin to deal with the overload. But if this demand for more insulin occurs too strongly too often, the ability of the pancreas to produce enough insulin may become impaired, and our cells may become resistant to insulin as it tries to do its job of facilitating glucose transport through the cell walls. The result is insulin resistance, a dangerous condition that, if unchecked, leads to type 2 diabetes. Its primary cause is obesity. Generally speaking, if you are obese, your risk for diabetes is high; if not, it’s low (unless you happen to have a genetic predisposition for diabetes). There Are Different Ways to Attack Diabetes Diabetes is a complicated disease with many ramifications, among which are increased risks for atherosclerosis and cataracts, both of which are strongly linked to oxidative stress caused by insufficient blood levels of antioxidants. The fact that people with diabetes have significantly lower antioxidant levels than normal suggests that this disease is affected by oxidative stress—a view that is supported by the well-known clinical efficacy of lipoic acid (“the antioxidant’s antioxidantâ€) in preventing and treating diabetes. It is reasonable to suppose that many other antioxidants are also beneficial against diabetes, and some have indeed been proven to be effective. One of these is the compound EGCG (epigallocatechin gallate), a green-tea polyphenol that also happens to be a potent anticarcinogen. But there are other therapeutic approaches to diabetes as well. One is through compounds that mimic the effects of insulin, such as MHCP (methylhydroxychalcone polymer), a constituent of cinnamon. Another approach is through compounds that inhibit the action of intestinal enzymes called alpha-glucosidases, whose function is to break disaccharides (double sugars, such as sucrose, maltose, and lactose) down to monosaccharides (single sugars, such as glucose, fructose, and galactose) so that they can pass through the intestinal walls into the bloodstream. Mulberry Controls Blood Sugar Another research group in Japan has found that white mulberry leaves contain compounds that inhibit these intestinal enzymes.3 In experiments with normal rats, they found that certain nitrogen-containing sugars in mulberry-leaf extract, notably one called 1-deoxynojirimycin, strongly inhibited the intestinal metabolism of disaccharides (especially sucrose), thereby restricting the amounts of monosaccharides that entered the circulation. They also found that pretreating the rats with mulberry extract before feeding them carbohydrates significantly suppressed the normal postprandial (after-meal) rise in blood glucose levels. This beneficial effect occurred in a dose-dependent manner. The doses were, however, very large: 0.1–0.5 g/kg of body weight, which, for a 70-kg (154-lb) human, would be 7–35 g. (A lower dose, 0.02 g/kg, corresponding to 1.4 g for a human, was ineffective.) Nonetheless, the researchers suggested that mulberry extract might be beneficial in preventing human diabetes by suppressing intestinal alpha-glucosidase activities. Mulberry Does Better than Prescription Drug

Hi Am Dr. Karen although VERY doubtful about herbs and alternative med>>but recently came in contact with a person who after some heated>>exchanges about the so called herbal meds showed me a tree and how to>>use it for curing diabetes. Frankly out of curiosity tried it on four>>recently diagnosed diabetics with blood sugar levels ranging from 394>>to 244 and to my surprise their blood sugar levels are still within>>normal range even after a month. I am still looking for some rational>>explanation but I am at loss to explain this. Maybe someone could help>>me explaining what happened. I am postgraduate MD doctor who all my>>life ridiculed the herbal medicines. Frankly am ashamed to even>>discuss this with my seniors. AND IF this is really true would like to>>share with all. What I cannot understand why even after not taking

any>>hypogly agents and NO DIETRY controls what so ever their blood sugar>>levels are normal. Any explanation please or similar experience>>encountered.

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I would alsio like to try it

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Well, I would like to try it......do you know of any seller down there....there would send something up here to DK. Some of the real stuff.KennDen 02/04/2008 kl. 12.09 skrev Karen Koomar:Hi Lynn,Ur right only MD is used over in US I worked for 5 years aat Prov hosp but for the last 3 years am back in India. Now to my query since I am not a botanist I only know the local name of the tree. In local lingo its called bhel. But frankly speaking I am very tense after this becaause I would not like something really important going waste, AND TRUST me I DONOT WANT TO USE IT FOR ANY COMMERCIAL gain but want to have some answers. In India there are LOTS of herbal medicines available for everything from Ca to HIV etc but sadly I have not seen any one showing any real improvement. Above all the use was really simple crush the part soaak it overnight and drink the water. I myself drank the mixed water, itwas not sweet or bitter rather tasteless. There was some mucoid like secretion in the root maaybe that is the active ingredient. For this reason I am really very curious to know IF at all do herbal meds cure. I donot want to make a fool of myself. Any similar effect seen by u or anyone else. Really looking forwaard to have some answers. If u want caan fedex the portion of root and u can see for urself the result.KKoomarLynn Ward <lynnward (AT) earthlink (DOT) net> wrote:At 04:19 PM 4/1/2008, you wrote:Please - what tree was this? I'm curious, you're not from the US are you? Postgraduate MD is not usually a term we use over here. Is it?LynnCan you give us more details Karen?Jane- "krnkoomar" <krnkoomar >< >Tuesday, April 01, 2008 8:51 PM Herbal cure for diabetes type 2 ?????Hi Am Dr. Karen although VERY doubtful about herbs and alternative medbut recently came in contact with a person who after some heatedexchanges about the so called herbal meds showed me a tree and how touse it for curing diabetes. Frankly out of curiosity tried it on fourrecently diagnosed diabetics with blood sugar levels ranging from 394to 244 and to my surprise their blood sugar levels are still withinnormal range even after a month. I am still looking for some rationalexplanation but I am at loss to explain this. Maybe someone could helpme explaining what happened. I am postgraduate MD doctor who all mylife ridiculed the herbal medicines. Frankly am ashamed to evendiscuss this with my seniors. AND IF this is really true would like toshare with all. What I cannot understand why even after not taking anyhypogly agents and NO DIETRY controls what so ever their blood sugarlevels are normal. Any explanation please or similar experienceencountered.-You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost.

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Yes please Karen I would like to try it for my husband - we can check his blood sugar regularly to test it's response - my husband is diabetic at 91 - he tries anything - this is my email address - I can send you something in exchange .....

 

Best,

 

Jane

 

highfield1

 

-

Kenn Johnsen

Thursday, April 03, 2008 9:24 PM

Re: Herbal cure for diabetes type 2 ?????

Well, I would like to try it......do you know of any seller down there....there would send something up here to DK. Some of the real stuff.

 

Kenn

 

Den 02/04/2008 kl. 12.09 skrev Karen Koomar:

 

 

 

 

 

Hi Lynn,Ur right only MD is used over in US I worked for 5 years aat Prov hosp but for the last 3 years am back in India. Now to my query since I am not a botanist I only know the local name of the tree. In local lingo its called bhel. But frankly speaking I am very tense after this becaause I would not like something really important going waste, AND TRUST me I DONOT WANT TO USE IT FOR ANY COMMERCIAL gain but want to have some answers. In India there are LOTS of herbal medicines available for everything from Ca to HIV etc but sadly I have not seen any one showing any real improvement. Above all the use was really simple crush the part soaak it overnight and drink the water. I myself drank the mixed water, itwas not sweet or bitter rather tasteless. There was some mucoid like secretion in the root maaybe that is the active ingredient. For this reason I am really very curious to know IF at all do herbal meds cure. I donot want to make a fool of myself. Any similar effect seen by u or anyone else. Really looking forwaard to have some answers. If u want caan fedex the portion of root and u can see for urself the result.KKoomarLynn Ward <lynnward (AT) earthlink (DOT) net> wrote:

At 04:19 PM 4/1/2008, you wrote:Please - what tree was this? I'm curious, you're not from the US are you? Postgraduate MD is not usually a term we use over here. Is it?Lynn

Can you give us more details Karen?Jane- "krnkoomar" <krnkoomar >< >Tuesday, April 01, 2008 8:51 PM Herbal cure for diabetes type 2 ?????Hi Am Dr. Karen although VERY doubtful about herbs and alternative medbut recently came in contact with a person who after some heatedexchanges about the so called herbal meds showed me a tree and how touse it for curing diabetes. Frankly out of curiosity tried it on fourrecently diagnosed diabetics with blood sugar levels ranging from 394to 244 and to my surprise their blood sugar levels are still withinnormal range even after a month. I am still looking for some rationalexplanation but I am at loss to explain this. Maybe someone could helpme explaining what happened. I am postgraduate MD doctor who all mylife ridiculed the herbal medicines. Frankly am ashamed to evendiscuss this with my seniors. AND IF this is really true would like toshare with all. What I cannot understand why even after not taking anyhypogly agents and NO DIETRY controls what so ever their blood sugarlevels are normal. Any explanation please or similar experienceencountered.-

 

 

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At 11:45 PM 4/2/2008, you wrote:

Don't know, but an interesting thought. In the country in VA, and places

where it grows, lot of folks use it medicinally. since it's native to

warm, temperate, and subtropical regions of Asia, Africa, parts of

America and Asia, it could be - depending on where Dr Karen lived, or

where she was at the time of her discovery.

Lynn

 

Hi I found this

online...could this be the tree that Dr Karen Koomar is talking

about?

 

 

Val

 

 

Mulberry Fights Diabetes

The antioxidant, antiatherosclerotic effects of mulberry are gratifying,

of course (and here we’re making the assumption that the effects seen

in laboratory and animal experiments would be seen in actual human beings

as well), but there’s more to the story than that. Mulberry leaves have

long been used in Chinese medicine for the prevention and treatment of

diabetes, because, as we now know, they contain chemical compounds that

suppress high blood sugar levels (hyperglycemia) following a

carbohydrate-rich meal.

Controlling blood sugar (glucose) levels is vitally important. When these

levels rise sharply, as they do after ingesting foods with a high

glycemic index, such as potatoes or sweets, the body responds by

producing more insulin to deal with the overload. But if this demand for

more insulin occurs too strongly too often, the ability of the pancreas

to produce enough insulin may become impaired, and our cells may become

resistant to insulin as it tries to do its job of facilitating glucose

transport through the cell walls. The result is insulin

resistance, a dangerous condition that, if unchecked, leads to type 2

diabetes. Its primary cause is obesity. Generally speaking, if you are

obese, your risk for diabetes is high; if not, it’s low (unless you

happen to have a genetic predisposition for diabetes).

There Are Different Ways to Attack Diabetes

Diabetes is a complicated disease with many ramifications, among which

are increased risks for atherosclerosis and cataracts, both of which are

strongly linked to oxidative stress caused by insufficient blood levels

of antioxidants. The fact that people with diabetes have significantly

lower antioxidant levels than normal suggests that this disease is

affected by oxidative stress—a view that is supported by the

well-known cliniccal efficacy of lipoic acid (“the

antioxidant’s antioxidantâ€) in preventing and treating diabetes. It

is reasonable to suppose that many other antioxidants are also beneficial

against diabetes, and some have indeed been proven to be effective. One

of these is the compound EGCG (epigallocatechin gallate), a

green-tea polyphenol that also happens to be a potent anticarcinogen.

 

But there are other therapeutic approaches to diabetes as well. One is

through compounds that mimic the effects of insulin, such as MHCP

(methylhydroxychalcone polymer), a constituent of cinnamon. Another

approach is through compounds that inhibit the action of intestinal

enzymes called alpha-glucosidases, whose function is to break

disaccharides (double sugars, such as sucrose, maltose, and lactose) down

to monosaccharides (single sugars, such as glucose, fructose, and

galactose) so that they can pass through the intestinal walls into the

bloodstream.

Mulberry Controls Blood Sugar

Another research group in Japan has found that white mulberry leaves

contain compounds that inhibit these intestinal enzymes.3 In

experiments with normal rats, they found that certain nitrogen-containing

sugars in mulberry-leaf extract, notably one called 1-deoxynojirimycin,

strongly inhibited the intestinal metabolism of disaccharides (especially

sucrose), thereby restricting the amounts of monosaccharides that entered

the circulation. They also found that pretreating the rats with mulberry

extract before feeding them carbohydrates significantly suppressed the

normal postprandial (after-meal) rise in blood glucose levels.

 

This beneficial effect occurred in a dose-dependent manner. The doses

were, however, very large: 0.1–0.5 g/kg of body weight, which, for a

70-kg (154-lb) human, would be 7–35 g. (A lower dose, 0.02 g/kg,

coorresponding to 1.4 g for a human, was ineffective.) Nonetheless, the

researchers suggested that mulberry extract might be beneficial in

preventing human diabetes by suppressing intestinal alpha-glucosidase

activities.

Mulberry Does Better than Prescription Drug

 

[Guest guest]

I am very interested in trying this.

 

Kenn Johnsen <kennj Sent: Thursday, April 3, 2008 6:24:57 AMRe: Herbal cure for diabetes type 2 ?????

 

Well, I would like to try it......do you know of any seller down there....there would send something up here to DK. Some of the real stuff.

 

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Den 02/04/2008 kl. 12.09 skrev Karen Koomar:

 

 

 

 

 

Hi Lynn,Ur right only MD is used over in US I worked for 5 years aat Prov hosp but for the last 3 years am back in India. Now to my query since I am not a botanist I only know the local name of the tree. In local lingo its called bhel.. But frankly speaking I am very tense after this becaause I would not like something really important going waste, AND TRUST me I DONOT WANT TO USE IT FOR ANY COMMERCIAL gain but want to have some answers. In India there are LOTS of herbal medicines available for everything from Ca to HIV etc but sadly I have not seen any one showing any real improvement. Above all the use was really simple crush the part soaak it overnight and drink the water. I myself drank the mixed water, itwas not sweet or bitter rather tasteless. There was some mucoid like secretion in the root maaybe that is the active

ingredient. For this reason I am really very curious to know IF at all do herbal meds cure. I donot want to make a fool of myself. Any similar effect seen by u or anyone else. Really looking forwaard to have some answers. If u want caan fedex the portion of root and u can see for urself the result.KKoomarLynn Ward <lynnward (AT) earthlink (DOT) net> wrote:

At 04:19 PM 4/1/2008, you wrote:Please - what tree was this? I'm curious, you're not from the US are you? Postgraduate MD is not usually a term we use over here. Is it?Lynn

Can you give us more details Karen?Jane- "krnkoomar" <krnkoomar >Tuesday, April 01, 2008 8:51 PM[Health_and_ Healing] Herbal cure for diabetes type 2 ?????Hi Am Dr. Karen although VERY doubtful about herbs and alternative medbut recently came in contact with a person who after some heatedexchanges about the so called herbal meds showed me a tree and how touse it for curing diabetes. Frankly out of

curiosity tried it on fourrecently diagnosed diabetics with blood sugar levels ranging from 394to 244 and to my surprise their blood sugar levels are still withinnormal range even after a month. I am still looking for some rationalexplanation but I am at loss to explain this. Maybe someone could helpme explaining what happened. I am postgraduate MD doctor who all mylife ridiculed the herbal medicines. Frankly am ashamed to evendiscuss this with my seniors. AND IF this is really true would like toshare with all. What I cannot understand why even after not taking anyhypogly agents and NO DIETRY controls what so ever their blood sugarlevels are normal. Any explanation please or similar experienceencountered.-

 

 

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Very interesting, Karen. What was the tree and how was it used?

 

, " krnkoomar "

<krnkoomar wrote:

>

> Hi Am Dr. Karen although VERY doubtful about herbs and alternative

med

> but recently came in contact with a person who after some heated

> exchanges about the so called herbal meds showed me a tree and how

to

> use it for curing diabetes. Out of curiosity tried it on four

recently

> diagnosed diabetics with blood sugar levels ranging from 394 to 244

> and to my surprise their blood sugar levels are still within normal

> range even after a month. I am still looking for some rational

> explanation but I am at loss to explain this. Maybe someone could

help

> me explaining what happened. I am postgraduate MD doctor who all my

> life ridiculed the herbal medicines. Frankly am ashamed to even

> discuss this with my seniors. AND IF this is really true would

like to

> share with all. What I cannot understand why even after not taking

any

> hypogly agents and NO DIETRY controls their blood sugar levels are

> normal. Any explanation please or similar experience encountered.

>