Guest guest Posted March 8, 2003 Report Share Posted March 8, 2003 Well I finally flushed at 400 mg and felt it in my hands, elbows, a little bit up and down the sides of my back/ribs, but mostly in my hands, which I find curious as I remember from years back getting it in the face/neck. Is there some special meaning to which part of the body experiences the flush symptoms? Is there some significance to the fact that this time I felt the flush mostly in my hands, which turned puffy, itchy/prickly and red? Peace, Cathie In a message dated 3/8/03 10:09:41 AM Mountain Standard Time, tvogel1104 writes: nician is like a police force it goes after junk like radiation in the body. If you are trying to cleans your body you have to take vits along with it. You increace the amount till it turn on and stay at that level till you get no flushes. Then you go to the next level. Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2003 Report Share Posted March 8, 2003 nician is like a police force it goes after junk like radiation in the body. If you are trying to cleans your body you have to take vits along with it. You increace the amount till it turn on and stay at that level till you get no flushes. Then you go to the next level. Tom WillowShade40 wrote: I got the real niacin and took 200 mg yesterday and 100 this morning on an empty stomach and still have not had a flush. Peace, Cathie Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to prescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian Shillington Doctor of Naturopathy Dr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2003 Report Share Posted March 8, 2003 Your welcome, I went up to 1500 when I was doing a total clean out but it took me three months to get there Tom WillowShade40 wrote: thanks tom, so far up to 300mg today with not flush. appreciate your feedback .... will try for that and see what happens... little bit at a time. peace, cathie In a message dated 3/8/03 10:09:41 AM Mountain Standard Time, tvogel1104 writes: nician is like a police force it goes after junk like radiation in the body. If you are trying to cleans your body you have to take vits along with it. You increace the amount till it turn on and stay at that level till you get no flushes. Then you go to the next level. Tom Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to prescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian Shillington Doctor of Naturopathy Dr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2003 Report Share Posted March 9, 2003 Hi Nil niacin cleans stuff out of the body like radiation from to much sun . Tom Nil wrote: What do you use Niacin for?Thanks.Nil - tvogel1104 herbal remedies Sunday, March 09, 2003 1:00 AM Re: [herbal remedies] Niacin Flush Your welcome, I went up to 1500 when I was doing a total clean out but it took me three months to get there Tom Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to prescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian Shillington Doctor of Naturopathy Dr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2003 Report Share Posted March 10, 2003 Hi Lisa, I just figured that on an empty stomach would be best because the niacin wouldn't get mixed up with the food. I took 3, 100 mg tabs on an empty stomach this morning and got only the barely mildest of flushes, a little bit in the knuckles, so then I took two more, and didn't flush ! So I give up for the day and will wait til morning and try tomorrow by starting out with 4. I thought one is supposed to flush because that is what is cleaning the blood out... If I take it with food, will I still flush? Peace, Cathie In a message dated 3/10/03 1:58:36 PM Mountain Standard Time, lisabelcher writes: Cathie, Is there any particular reason you are taking the niacin on an empty stomach? I can't do that. The one time I did, I fainted from the flush/heat, and woke up on the floor with an injured shoulder! Lisa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2003 Report Share Posted March 10, 2003 For what it's worth, I gave my husband also 300 mg of niacin yesterday evening, and he did have a very noticable flush -- so go figure -- who knows why it is so hard for me to have a flush. maybe i have been drinking too much rejuvilac ! I have always required a high dose of anything I took. When my leg first clotted 12 years ago when I was 28 on the pill, in the hospital they hooked me up to an I.V. and started pumping Hepharin ( blood thinners ) into me and had a devil of a time getting any to actually Remain in my system (i.e. they couldnt' get the levels to elevate in my blood). One doctor blamed it on me having a " healthy liver " but it seems to me that I.V. solution bypasses the liver going directly into the blood, right? The world may never know why what in minute quantities seems to ahve a Big effect on others, in great quantities seems to have little effect on me, often. It's the B-vitamins that I have a hard time swallowing ( the multi's ) and just the faint wiff of a smell of those causes me to Gag -- very hard for me to swallow those ! Peace, Cathie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2003 Report Share Posted March 10, 2003 Re: niacin .. For those interested, you can access clearbodyclearmind.com site and find out the "real skinny" on niacin. there is a book out by the same name that you can order to educate yourself on this "educated vitamin" . It is really invaluable data in helping you understand the what and wherefore's of niacin and how it works. I would be willing to answer ?'s too as I know a bit about it-but will always defer to Doc as his knowledge far exceeds mine in this general field of health. and it is his website. I also am nieve on the rules for this site so hope this doesn't break any of them. don't want to get TOASTED. ML, Bob P. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2003 Report Share Posted March 10, 2003 YES if there is stuff in your body to run out at the level of the nician you are taking Tom WillowShade40 wrote: Hi Lisa, I just figured that on an empty stomach would be best because the niacin wouldn't get mixed up with the food. I took 3, 100 mg tabs on an empty stomach this morning and got only the barely mildest of flushes, a little bit in the knuckles, so then I took two more, and didn't flush ! So I give up for the day and will wait til morning and try tomorrow by starting out with 4. I thought one is supposed to flush because that is what is cleaning the blood out... If I take it with food, will I still flush? Peace, Cathie In a message dated 3/10/03 1:58:36 PM Mountain Standard Time, lisabelcher writes: Cathie, Is there any particular reason you are taking the niacin on an empty stomach? I can't do that. The one time I did, I fainted from the flush/heat, and woke up on the floor with an injured shoulder! Lisa Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to prescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian Shillington Doctor of Naturopathy Dr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2003 Report Share Posted March 10, 2003 Boy, just 100mg will produce a great flushing with me! When I fainted I had taken 100mg (to get rid of a headache), and then later took another 100mg as it hadn't worked yet. That's when I fainted - so only on 200mg!! I did the ClearBodyClearMind program Bob mentioned, and only managed to build up to 500mg. Can't imagine what 1500mg must be like - that Don mentioned! But as I said, I couldn't take it on an empty stomach without repercussions. Taking it otherwise still produced flushing with me, so I guess that your answer is yes. Lisa - WillowShade40 herbal remedies Monday, March 10, 2003 9:03 PM Re: [herbal remedies] Niacin Flush Hi Lisa, I just figured that on an empty stomach would be best because the niacin wouldn't get mixed up with the food. I took 3, 100 mg tabs on an empty stomach this morning and got only the barely mildest of flushes, a little bit in the knuckles, so then I took two more, and didn't flush ! So I give up for the day and will wait til morning and try tomorrow by starting out with 4. I thought one is supposed to flush because that is what is cleaning the blood out... If I take it with food, will I still flush?Peace,CathieIn a message dated 3/10/03 1:58:36 PM Mountain Standard Time, lisabelcher writes: Cathie,Is there any particular reason you are taking the niacin on an empty stomach?I can't do that. The one time I did, I fainted from the flush/heat, and woke up on the floor with an injured shoulder!LisaFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2003 Report Share Posted March 10, 2003 Give it a few days. I take 100 mg daily (well, Monday - Friday) and normally get a flush. Been doing 100 mg for at least a year. Another thing you might want to check is to ensure it is not "time released" or something like that. Maybe a different brand would work better. I notice a difference in brands. MartiM WillowShade40 wrote: Hi Tom, I'm not trying to be irreverent, really ;-) but really, I do not understand how my body could NOT have something to "run out" at that level of niacin I am taking... This morning I took 300mg, then when I didnt' flush after half an hour, I took another 100mg, got a slight flush in my knuckles got frustrated that I didn't reallyflush, then went home and too 200mg more ! No significant flush. I simply can't believe that I don't have more to flush our in my system than that, because for one thing, I had my cholesteral checked recently and I know it was HIGH and that is why I started taking the niacin as part of a plan to help bring my cholesteral Down ... Also, I hve not been eating THAT pure of a diet ... I mean we eat healthy compared to Most Americans, but compared to probably Most of you guys on this list -- you health nut professionals ;-) we are but novices -- the duncelike apprentice in the Micky Mouse Cap, trying to fill the buckets and get the ole diet right and still have our cake and eat it too. There Must be more in me to get flushed out than that ... Just musing, Cathie In a message dated 3/10/03 4:40:38 PM Mountain Standard Time, tvogel1104 writes: YES if there is stuff in your body to run out at the level of the nician you are taking Tom Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to prescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian Shillington Doctor of Naturopathy Dr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2003 Report Share Posted March 11, 2003 Well, I seriously doubt my assimilation is compromised because when I was a kid we never had potato chips, nor soda pop, i do not drink coffee, and Most of my life I have not eaten much meat -- mostly brown rice and veggies. While I have gone through spells when I ate meat, it has not been regular or enough to cause assimilation problems, imho. I very rarely get indigestion even (which I got a few times over the holidays, but it has cleared up entirely now that we have no more bratwurst which was also a brief passing phase). If anybody has an assimilation problem it would be my husband, who was raised on TV dinners, and Ice Cream for dinner every sunday night ( i kid you not ! :-) But, I will try the suggestion with the vinegar, and am going out as we speak to get the book you are all recommending so highly :-) We've been taking 500 mg niacinamide tabs for the past few years ( me not regularly). I simply do not believe I have assimilation troubles. :-) And I do seem to have a very good sense of my own body. But I will try it as you suggest with the vinegar. NOt trying to be difficult. Just honest... Luv & Hugs, Cathie In a message dated 3/11/03 9:12:32 AM Mountain Standard Time, Dr.IanShillington writes: Dear Cathy, Try taking 100 Mg with freshly squeezed apple juice or orange juice with an enzyme capsule. It is possible that your stomach, digestion and your assimilation have been compromised by past diets. If that doesn't work try 100 Mg with a tablespoon of Organic Apple Cider Vinegar. I would not be messing around with higher doses without being on a program such as the one mentioned in the book, "Clear Body, Clear Mind" , an excellent book by the way, which has a great deal of awesome data relating to vitamins, health and surviving nuclear contamination. Love, Doc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2003 Report Share Posted March 11, 2003 Dear Cathie You need to take your vites along with the niacin. You didn't have anything there at that level. But next day you might take like 700 and be running all over the house with a big flush. But you stay at that level for a while to make sure there nothing there cause it takes a while to find things. Get the book and read it Tom WillowShade40 wrote: Hi Tom, I'm not trying to be irreverent, really ;-) but really, I do not understand how my body could NOT have something to "run out" at that level of niacin I am taking... This morning I took 300mg, then when I didnt' flush after half an hour, I took another 100mg, got a slight flush in my knuckles got frustrated that I didn't reallyflush, then went home and too 200mg more ! No significant flush. I simply can't believe that I don't have more to flush our in my system than that, because for one thing, I had my cholesteral checked recently and I know it was HIGH and that is why I started taking the niacin as part of a plan to help bring my cholesteral Down ... Also, I hve not been eating THAT pure of a diet ... I mean we eat healthy compared to Most Americans, but compared to probably Most of you guys on this list -- you health nut professionals ;-) we are but novices -- the duncelike apprentice in the Micky Mouse Cap, trying to fill the buckets and get the ole diet right and still have our cake and eat it too. There Must be more in me to get flushed out than that ... Just musing, Cathie In a message dated 3/10/03 4:40:38 PM Mountain Standard Time, tvogel1104 writes: YES if there is stuff in your body to run out at the level of the nician you are taking Tom Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to prescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian Shillington Doctor of Naturopathy Dr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2003 Report Share Posted March 11, 2003 Previously, before this discussion in this list about the difference between the two, we were taking niacin-amide. But now we have switched to niacin, since you have said it is the only way to go. I do not eat very much meat. Over the years, we have gone relatively long stretches without much meat at all, due to budget concerns. And honestly, even when we have meat around, I tend to not eat that much of it because it gets stuck in my teeth and ... Sometimes we eat meat... I always drain the fat when we do. I am very conscious about that ... Peace, Cathie In a message dated 3/11/03 12:16:34 PM Mountain Standard Time, Dr.IanShillington writes: Hmmmmmmm. Are you taking Niacin or Niacinamide??? Also, do you not eat meat??? Love, Doc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2003 Report Share Posted March 11, 2003 Don't get me wrong Doc. My diet has not been perfect over the years, but the basic foundation of my diet has I believe been decent enough to sustain life and normal functioning for the most part. I'm sorry I'm such a tough case. If you want to know the truth, I do believe there is a strong consciousness effect in my leg, and read a very interesting article on meditation and moods and blood flow and to be truthful, I believe it. I believe I have also a strong psycho somatic tendency. I have not had a fever in years ( I began to believe my thermometer was broken until my daughter finally got a fever after years without a serious cold, this past winter ). I have not been sick all this season with cough or anything, even when my daughter was home for a week with her fever. I have not had stomach flu. Will try the Vinegar suggestion. Thanks for your patience and care. Peace, Cathie -In a message dated 3/11/03 12:31:40 PM Mountain Standard Time, Dr.IanShillington writes: OK, gotcha! Try it with the tablespoon of ACV (100 Mg of Niacin) and see if that doesn't help turn on the flush. You definitely don't want to try and suppress the flush (this was in another post I saw) with milk or anything else, and jumping into a sauna will actually help to bring it out even more. It is possible that your body is sooooo clean that it actually does take more for you. ;o) Love, Doc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2003 Report Share Posted March 11, 2003 Dear Cathy, Try taking 100 Mg with freshly squeezed apple juice or orange juice with an enzyme capsule. It is possible that your stomach, digestion and your assimilation have been compromised by past diets. If that doesn't work try 100 Mg with a tablespoon of Organic Apple Cider Vinegar. I would not be messing around with higher doses without being on a program such as the one mentioned in the book, "Clear Body, Clear Mind" , an excellent book by the way, which has a great deal of awesome data relating to vitamins, health and surviving nuclear contamination. Love, Doc Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington - WillowShade40 herbal remedies Monday, March 10, 2003 10:59 PM Re: [herbal remedies] Niacin Flush Hi Tom, I'm not trying to be irreverent, really ;-) but really, I do not understand how my body could NOT have something to "run out" at that level of niacin I am taking... This morning I took 300mg, then when I didnt' flush after half an hour, I took another 100mg, got a slight flush in my knuckles got frustrated that I didn't reallyflush, then went home and too 200mg more ! No significant flush. I simply can't believe that I don't have more to flush our in my system than that, because for one thing, I had my cholesteral checked recently and I know it was HIGH and that is why I started taking the niacin as part of a plan to help bring my cholesteral Down ... Also, I hve not been eating THAT pure of a diet ... I mean we eat healthy compared to Most Americans, but compared to probably Most of you guys on this list -- you health nut professionals ;-) we are but novices -- the duncelike apprentice in the Micky Mouse Cap, trying to fill the buckets and get the ole diet right and still have our cake and eat it too. There Must be more in me to get flushed out than that ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2003 Report Share Posted March 11, 2003 Good point Marti, you do not want the time released crap or Niacinamide. It has to be the pure B3 Nicotinic Acid. Twin Labs makes a good product that works very well. Love, Doc Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington - Marti Marshall herbal remedies Monday, March 10, 2003 11:19 PM Re: [herbal remedies] Niacin Flush Give it a few days. I take 100 mg daily (well, Monday - Friday) and normally get a flush. Been doing 100 mg for at least a year. Another thing you might want to check is to ensure it is not "time released" or something like that. Maybe a different brand would work better. I notice a difference in brands. MartiM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2003 Report Share Posted March 11, 2003 Hmmmmmmm. Are you taking Niacin or Niacinamide??? Also, do you not eat meat??? Love, Doc Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington - WillowShade40 herbal remedies Tuesday, March 11, 2003 11:57 AM Re: [herbal remedies] Niacin Flush Well, I seriously doubt my assimilation is compromised because when I was a kid we never had potato chips, nor soda pop, i do not drink coffee, and Most of my life I have not eaten much meat -- mostly brown rice and veggies. While I have gone through spells when I ate meat, it has not been regular or enough to cause assimilation problems, imho. I very rarely get indigestion even (which I got a few times over the holidays, but it has cleared up entirely now that we have no more bratwurst which was also a brief passing phase).If anybody has an assimilation problem it would be my husband, who was raised on TV dinners, and Ice Cream for dinner every sunday night ( i kid you not ! :-)But, I will try the suggestion with the vinegar, and am going out as we speak to get the book you are all recommending so highly :-)We've been taking 500 mg niacinamide tabs for the past few years ( me not regularly). I simply do not believe I have assimilation troubles. :-)And I do seem to have a very good sense of my own body.But I will try it as you suggest with the vinegar. NOt trying to be difficult. Just honest...Luv & Hugs,Cathie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2003 Report Share Posted March 11, 2003 OK, gotcha! Try it with the tablespoon of ACV (100 Mg of Niacin) and see if that doesn't help turn on the flush. You definitely don't want to try and suppress the flush (this was in another post I saw) with milk or anything else, and jumping into a sauna will actually help to bring it out even more. It is possible that your body is sooooo clean that it actually does take more for you. ;o) Love, Doc Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington - WillowShade40 herbal remedies Tuesday, March 11, 2003 12:19 PM Re: [herbal remedies] Niacin Flush Previously, before this discussion in this list about the difference between the two, we were taking niacin-amide. But now we have switched to niacin, since you have said it is the only way to go.I do not eat very much meat. Over the years, we have gone relatively long stretches without much meat at all, due to budget concerns. And honestly, even when we have meat around, I tend to not eat that much of it because it gets stuck in my teeth and ... Sometimes we eat meat... I always drain the fat when we do. I am very conscious about that ...Peace,Cathie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2003 Report Share Posted September 2, 2003 Hi becky...some people are allergic to niacin,and that flush is their clue that they are too. But most people who are allergic to it can take Niacinimine (sorry,i know that's spelled wrong) But also...like my dad who takes a form of this as an anti cholesterol medicine will occasionally get a quick flush on his arms and face,but it goes away quick and doesn't happen often. Karly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2003 Report Share Posted September 3, 2003 Karly, this is in fact false information. Niacin is supposed to give this flushing!! That is the active ingredient working. Niacinamide has that active ingredient taken out, and is absolutely useless to take. However, everyone has their own personal levels of flushing: I flush heavily on 100mg, whereas others don't start flushing until they are up to 500mg. So it's different for everyone. But the flushing is a normal effect of niacin, and simply indicates it is doing what it's supposed to do. If the flushing is too heavy, then perhaps cut down to where it is manageable. love, Lisa - karly herbal remedies Tuesday, September 02, 2003 11:54 PM Re: [herbal remedies] Niacin flush Hi becky...some people are allergic to niacin,and that flush is their clue that they are too. But most people who are allergic to it can take Niacinimine (sorry,i know that's spelled wrong) But also...like my dad who takes a form of this as an anti cholesterol medicine will occasionally get a quick flush on his arms and face,but it goes away quick and doesn't happen often. Karly Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2003 Report Share Posted September 3, 2003 Lisa, Yes, this is true. I don't flush until 300mg- I keep lowering it to check, but it seems to take about 300....which is a desired effect. I don't know that there is any person who does not flush with niacin- that's simply what it does and what it is known to do. Elizabeth On Wednesday, September 3, 2003, at 02:42 PM, Lisa Belcher wrote: > Karly, this is in fact false information. > > Niacin is supposed to give this flushing!! That is the active > ingredient working. Niacinamide has that active ingredient taken out, > and is absolutely useless to take. > > However, everyone has their own personal levels of flushing: I flush > heavily on 100mg, whereas others don't start flushing until they are up > to 500mg. So it's different for everyone. > > But the flushing is a normal effect of niacin, and simply indicates it > is doing what it's supposed to do. If the flushing is too heavy, then > perhaps cut down to where it is manageable. > > love, > Lisa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2003 Report Share Posted September 3, 2003 Karly, I don't doubt that your mother was allergic. My stating that your claim was false, was that your post suggested that the flushing = allergy. And this is false information. The flushing is a normal action of niacin. If this is not what you meant to say, then I'm sorry :-) love, Lisa - karly herbal remedies Wednesday, September 03, 2003 9:03 PM Re: [herbal remedies] Niacin flush False? I think not. My mother was very allergic to niacin and was put on niasinimine and it worked for her. Karly Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2003 Report Share Posted September 3, 2003 Hi Tracey, I experienced the flushing as my skin turning red in some places, getting hot, and itching skin also sometimes. love, Lisa - Tracey Gale herbal remedies Wednesday, September 03, 2003 9:44 PM Re: [herbal remedies] Niacin flush can someone please tell me what a flush is - what's it suppose to do??Elizabeth wrote: Lisa,Yes, this is true. I don't flush until 300mg- I keep lowering it to check, but it seems to take about 300....which is a desired effect. I don't know that there is any person who does not flush with niacin- that's simply what it does and what it is known to do.ElizabethOn Wednesday, September 3, 2003, at 02:42 PM, Lisa Belcher wrote:> Karly, this is in fact false information.> > Niacin is supposed to give this flushing!! That is the active > ingredient working. Niacinamide has that active ingredient taken out, > and is absolutely useless to take.> > However, everyone has their own personal levels of flushing: I flush > heavily on 100mg, whereas others don't start flushing until they are up > to 500mg. So it's different for everyone.> > But the flushing is a normal effect of niacin, and simply indicates it > is doing what it's supposed to do. If the flushing is too heavy, then > perhaps cut down to where it is manageable.> > love,> Lisa Peace & Blessings Tracey Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2003 Report Share Posted September 3, 2003 Aflush cleans the garbage out of your body if there is nothing there there is no flush thats why it only happen in certain places Tom Tracey Gale wrote: can someone please tell me what a flush is - what's it suppose to do?? Elizabeth wrote: Lisa, Yes, this is true. I don't flush until 300mg- I keep lowering it to check, but it seems to take about 300....which is a desired effect. I don't know that there is any person who does not flush with niacin- that's simply what it does and what it is known to do. Elizabeth On Wednesday, September 3, 2003, at 02:42 PM, Lisa Belcher wrote: > Karly, this is in fact false information. > > Niacin is supposed to give this flushing!! That is the active > ingredient working. Niacinamide has that active ingredient taken out, > and is absolutely useless to take. > > However, everyone has their own personal levels of flushing: I flush > heavily on 100mg, whereas others don't start flushing until they are up > to 500mg. So it's different for everyone. > > But the flushing is a normal effect of niacin, and simply indicates it > is doing what it's supposed to do. If the flushing is too heavy, then > perhaps cut down to where it is manageable. > > love, > Lisa Peace & Blessings Tracey Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to prescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian Shillington Doctor of Naturopathy Dr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2003 Report Share Posted September 4, 2003 Dear Juju, Have you tried a websearch for the definition of niacin? You will find a wealth of info...also you might want to browse the message file and the many files in the HR archives.. you will learn alot - there are some great articles too.! Niacin is a water-soluble vitamin necessary for many aspects of health, growth, and reproduction. It is part of the vitamin B complex. Niacin assists in the functioning of the digestive system, skin, and nerves. It is also important for the conversion of food to energy. Taking the niacin causes the flush. Suzihotmail <pootlebird wrote: I may sound a bit silly and ive probably missed an explanation but what do you use to do this flush ? what is niacin ? juju Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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