Guest guest Posted June 23, 2003 Report Share Posted June 23, 2003 Does anyone here any experience (good/bad/indifferent) with either Imm-Kine or C-statin. They are made by Aidan and are being recommnended to me as an imune system booster and an anti-cancer treatment respectively? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2003 Report Share Posted June 24, 2003 Yes we have a lot of experience - imm kine is one better than MGN3 -it is a polypeptide product produced from medicinal mushroom enzymes on rice bran. Basically small parts of cell walls have been shown to kill cancer cells in vitro. immkine works two ways - direct action on cancer cells (but it has to get there. Injection of polypeptides straight into cancer tumour or in direct blood supply is the only really effective way. The Chinese are playing ewith CHML which works in the same way). - direct action on cytokines and NK cells to boost immune pperformance. Taken usually with or after chemo to keep white cell count up. I can give you chapter and verse and send you an article I have written. I write cancer books and we have a monthly mag - integrated cancer and oncology news (icon) which people seem to rave about. Try me on chris for further info. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2003 Report Share Posted June 24, 2003 Sorry - c-statin is also an effective agent to stop cancer spread. My daughter has a brain tumour and we are using both. chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2003 Report Share Posted June 24, 2003 Hi, My mum has cancer of the gullet and although she has not tried the two items you mentioned has been taking Carctol tablets and she has just has PDT which has made her very poorly but hopefully she will be able to eat again soon. > Does anyone here any experience (good/bad/indifferent) with either >Imm-Kine or C-statin. They are made by Aidan and are being >recommnended to me as an imune system booster and an anti-cancer >treatment respectively? > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2003 Report Share Posted June 24, 2003 winohs <malcolm.scott wrote: Does anyone here any experience (good/bad/indifferent) with either Imm-Kine or C-statin. They are made by Aidan and are being recommnended to me as an imune system booster and an anti-cancer treatment respectively? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2003 Report Share Posted June 30, 2003 in conncection with the e mail from m.m.wagstaff the 26th june: my mum recently died of pancreatic cancer and she was diagnosed about this time last year. i found out about carctol and was so hopeful, she took it for a month and a half and was better very quickly, she then had to have a big operation called a hepatodochojejunumostomy, which was intended initially to be a whipples, but during the proceedure they couldn't do it as the cancer was attached to a main artery. so after this huge intervention, many hours in surgery, she recovered quite fast for a 74 year old woman, she had not eaten for 16 days after as she couldn't initially, the stomach has to be kept clear for some time and they simply maintained her on a p.i.g. regime (potassium,insulin,glucose), when she was allowed to eat she couldn't, she had dropped weight, stamina and hope. she decided to give up on the carctol as she didn't have the presence of mind to maintain the regime that went with it. her choice, my loss, i tried to change her mind, very stubborn lady, she won, i lost. she was so unwell. she picked up by last christmas a bit. we managed a short spell of quality time before her health went downhill again and she died in april. however, my point in all this is, i think if she would have continued with the carctol she would still be here, because the change in her, even after such a short time of taking it, was astonishing, in fact when she went in for her operation she was radiant, and she said "i don't know what i'm doing here, i feel great". to which the surgeon replied, "that's the best way to go in for an operation". guess that's probably right, however, i wonder if she would have trusted to carctol only and continued taking it whether it would have been ok. it's hard to know isn't it? it's all so scary. i miss her. please would you let me know how it goes with your mum, i hope that it works for your family. all good wishes to you, my thoughts are with you and everyone out there who is struggling with this heavy load. love lulu xx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2003 Report Share Posted July 2, 2003 My grandmother was just diagnosed with pancreatic cancer, also. I am very interested in the Carctol. My problem is, I live in Florida, my family and grandmother all live in North Carolina. They are telling me that she has accepted this and is "preparing". I don't know how or what to do in my capacity. Part of me feels like I should just let her do what SHE wants to, and the selfish part of me that wants her around longer (she is 88 years old), wants to get her on the protocol. Does anyone have any suggestions of how I can convince her to try this? Thanks for any tips. This is so hard - especially being away from her. Dale Fantasticweaseli [Fantasticweaseli]Monday, June 30, 2003 6:11 PMnature cure Subject: Re: [nature cure] Re: Natural Cancer Treatmentsin conncection with the e mail from m.m.wagstaff the 26th june: my mum recently died of pancreatic cancer and she was diagnosed about this time last year. i found out about carctol and was so hopeful, she took it for a month and a half and was better very quickly, she then had to have a big operation called a hepatodochojejunumostomy, which was intended initially to be a whipples, but during the proceedure they couldn't do it as the cancer was attached to a main artery. so after this huge intervention, many hours in surgery, she recovered quite fast for a 74 year old woman, she had not eaten for 16 days after as she couldn't initially, the stomach has to be kept clear for some time and they simply maintained her on a p.i.g. regime (potassium,insulin,glucose), when she was allowed to eat she couldn't, she had dropped weight, stamina and hope. she decided to give up on the carctol as she didn't have the presence of mind to maintain the regime that went with it. her choice, my loss, i tried to change her mind, very stubborn lady, she won, i lost. she was so unwell. she picked up by last christmas a bit. we managed a short spell of quality time before her health went downhill again and she died in april. however, my point in all this is, i think if she would have continued with the carctol she would still be here, because the change in her, even after such a short time of taking it, was astonishing, in fact when she went in for her operation she was radiant, and she said "i don't know what i'm doing here, i feel great". to which the surgeon replied, "that's the best way to go in for an operation". guess that's probably right, however, i wonder if she would have trusted to carctol only and continued taking it whether it would have been ok. it's hard to know isn't it? it's all so scary. i miss her. please would you let me know how it goes with your mum, i hope that it works for your family. all good wishes to you, my thoughts are with you and everyone out there who is struggling with this heavy load. love lulu xx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2003 Report Share Posted July 3, 2003 dale, don't be away from her. lu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2003 Report Share Posted July 3, 2003 My mum started to take Carctol about two weeks after being diagnosed, I told her they were only herbal tablets and would do her no harm. The doctors could not give her any chemo or radiotherapy becaused she has a pacemaker. As the cancer is in her gullet it was very difficult for her to swallow and as she did not eat very much she has either had 2 or 3 carctol tablets a day. When she has had the tablets she says that they make her full of energy and want to get up and go. She has had PDT (Photodynamic Therapy) twice in the last five weeks and very poorly at the moment with the side effects. I have managed to find a drink Build Up which tastes alright and she is having soup,potato and gravy and other soft foods so she has just started on the Carctol again. It is about 11 weeks since mu mum was diagnosed and although it was found early the doctors advised they could do nothing. She has taken the carctol since and although the tumour filled her gullet across it has not got any longer and at the moment not spread anywhere. The first lot of pdt killed a large piece of tumour this all came away when she had her second treatment and now the second lot it working. I purchased the carctol on the internet from America and it came in about 3 days which was really quick, one of her packs has nearly gone and she is definately going to keep on it. Try telling your gran that they will make her feel better instead of taking painkillers and other tablets given by the drug companies. Hope this is some help. Marilyn Wagstaff > My grandmother was just diagnosed with pancreatic cancer, also. I am very >interested in the Carctol. My problem is, I live in Florida, my family and >grandmother all live in North Carolina. They are telling me that she has >accepted this and is " preparing " . I don't know how or what to do in my >capacity. Part of me feels like I should just let her do what SHE wants to, >and the selfish part of me that wants her around longer (she is 88 years >old), wants to get her on the protocol. Does anyone have any suggestions of >how I can convince her to try this? Thanks for any tips. This is so hard - >especially being away from her. Dale > > >Fantasticweaseli [Fantasticweaseli] >Monday, June 30, 2003 6:11 PM >nature cure >Re: [nature cure] Re: Natural Cancer Treatments > > >in conncection with the e mail from m.m.wagstaff the 26th june: > > >my mum recently died of pancreatic cancer and she was diagnosed about this >time last year. i found out about carctol and was so hopeful, she took it >for a month and a half and was better very quickly, she then had to have a >big operation called a hepatodochojejunumostomy, which was intended >initially to be a whipples, but during the proceedure they couldn't do it as >the cancer was attached to a main artery. so after this huge intervention, >many hours in surgery, she recovered quite fast for a 74 year old woman, she >had not eaten for 16 days after as she couldn't initially, the stomach has >to be kept clear for some time and they simply maintained her on a p.i.g. >regime (potassium,insulin,glucose), when she was allowed to eat she >couldn't, she had dropped weight, stamina and hope. she decided to give up >on the carctol as she didn't have the presence of mind to maintain the >regime that went with it. her choice, my loss, i tried to change her mind, >very stubborn lady, she won, i lost. >she was so unwell. >she picked up by last christmas a bit. we managed a short spell of quality >time before her health went downhill again and she died in april. however, >my point in all this is, i think if she would have continued with the >carctol she would still be here, because the change in her, even after such >a short time of taking it, was astonishing, in fact when she went in for her >operation she was radiant, and she said " i don't know what i'm doing here, i >feel great " . to which the surgeon replied, " that's the best way to go in >for an operation " . >guess that's probably right, however, i wonder if she would have trusted to >carctol only and continued taking it whether it would have been ok. it's >hard to know isn't it? it's all so scary. i miss her. >please would you let me know how it goes with your mum, i hope that it >works for your family. >all good wishes to you, my thoughts are with you and everyone out there who >is struggling with this heavy load. >love >lulu >xx > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2003 Report Share Posted July 3, 2003 > My grandmother was just diagnosed with pancreatic cancer, also. I am very >interested in the Carctol. My problem is, I live in Florida, my family and >grandmother all live in North Carolina. They are telling me that she has >accepted this and is " preparing " . I don't know how or what to do in my >capacity. Part of me feels like I should just let her do what SHE wants to, >and the selfish part of me that wants her around longer (she is 88 years >old), wants to get her on the protocol. Does anyone have any suggestions of >how I can convince her to try this? Thanks for any tips. This is so hard - >especially being away from her. Dale > > >Fantasticweaseli [Fantasticweaseli] >Monday, June 30, 2003 6:11 PM >nature cure >Re: [nature cure] Re: Natural Cancer Treatments > > >in conncection with the e mail from m.m.wagstaff the 26th june: >Hi sorry about your mum, mu mum swears by the carctol and whether that is controlling her cancer I don't know but she feels much better when she is taking them. As she has had Photo Dynamic Therapy she has not had them for the last couple of weeks but she is eating again now so she had started to take them again. She started two days ago and had been out of bed for a few hours each day for the last two days. The pdt is a funny thing though and she sometimes has different pains, today she had bad headaches and chest pains but the doctor did advise she would have this for about 4 weeks and it is only 2 weeks ago today that she had her last treatment. What is the whipples thing that you mention? Marilyn > >my mum recently died of pancreatic cancer and she was diagnosed about this >time last year. i found out about carctol and was so hopeful, she took it >for a month and a half and was better very quickly, she then had to have a >big operation called a hepatodochojejunumostomy, which was intended >initially to be a whipples, but during the proceedure they couldn't do it as >the cancer was attached to a main artery. so after this huge intervention, >many hours in surgery, she recovered quite fast for a 74 year old woman, she >had not eaten for 16 days after as she couldn't initially, the stomach has >to be kept clear for some time and they simply maintained her on a p.i.g. >regime (potassium,insulin,glucose), when she was allowed to eat she >couldn't, she had dropped weight, stamina and hope. she decided to give up >on the carctol as she didn't have the presence of mind to maintain the >regime that went with it. her choice, my loss, i tried to change her mind, >very stubborn lady, she won, i lost. >she was so unwell. >she picked up by last christmas a bit. we managed a short spell of quality >time before her health went downhill again and she died in april. however, >my point in all this is, i think if she would have continued with the >carctol she would still be here, because the change in her, even after such >a short time of taking it, was astonishing, in fact when she went in for her >operation she was radiant, and she said " i don't know what i'm doing here, i >feel great " . to which the surgeon replied, " that's the best way to go in >for an operation " . >guess that's probably right, however, i wonder if she would have trusted to >carctol only and continued taking it whether it would have been ok. it's >hard to know isn't it? it's all so scary. i miss her. >please would you let me know how it goes with your mum, i hope that it >works for your family. >all good wishes to you, my thoughts are with you and everyone out there who >is struggling with this heavy load. >love >lulu >xx > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2003 Report Share Posted July 5, 2003 Where can you send for these two immune products you mention, do you know? How much are they? Thanks so much. Elayne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2003 Report Share Posted July 7, 2003 There are lots of web sites in the US selling Imm-Kine and C-statin from Aiden http://www.aidanproducts.com/cart.php?m=product_list & c=1 Try a search on Google. In the UK, I think they are only available through health professionals such as the Dove Clinic http://www.doveclinic.com/site/default.htm - EFDuPrae nature cure Saturday, July 05, 2003 9:26 PM Re: [nature cure] Re: Natural Cancer Treatments Where can you send for these two immune products you mention, do you know? How much are they? Thanks so much. Elayne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2003 Report Share Posted July 7, 2003 marilyn, whipples is a giant operation where a huge amount of vital organs are removed and the stomach re-plumbed to still function but in a different way, it normally takes about 9 hour in theatre and is fairly grim, i wont go into all the details there are sites where you can see the full medical explanation, just go to google or someone and type it in. lulu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2003 Report Share Posted July 21, 2003 My mum is still having problems swallowing and is having a camera down on Thursday to see what is happening down there. At the minute she is even unable to swallow her carctol which is very worrying, can you tell me how big the imkine and cstatin tablets area anybody and also where to purchase and how much they are. Thanks Mal > My mum started to take Carctol about two weeks after being diagnosed, I told her they were only herbal tablets and would do her no harm. The doctors could not give her any chemo or radiotherapy becaused she has a pacemaker. As the cancer is in her gullet it was very difficult for her to swallow and as she did not eat very much she has either had 2 or 3 carctol tablets a day. When she has had the tablets she says that they make her full of energy and want to get up and go. She has had PDT (Photodynamic Therapy) twice in the last five weeks and very poorly at the moment with the side effects. I have managed to find a drink Build Up which tastes alright and she is having soup,potato and gravy and other soft foods so she has just started on the Carctol again. It is about 11 weeks since mu mum was diagnosed and although it was found early the doctors advised they could do nothing. She has taken the carctol since and although the tumour filled her gullet across it has not got any longer and at the moment not spread anywhere. The first lot of pdt killed a large piece of tumour this all came away when she had her second treatment and now the second lot it working. I purchased the carctol on the internet from America and it came in about 3 days which was really quick, one of her packs has nearly gone and she is definately going to keep on it. Try telling your gran that they will make her feel better instead of taking painkillers and other tablets given by the drug companies. Hope this is some help. > >Marilyn Wagstaff > My grandmother was just diagnosed with pancreatic cancer, also. I am very >interested in the Carctol. My problem is, I live in Florida, my family and >grandmother all live in North Carolina. They are telling me that she has >accepted this and is " preparing " . I don't know how or what to do in my >capacity. Part of me feels like I should just let her do what SHE wants to, >and the selfish part of me that wants her around longer (she is 88 years >old), wants to get her on the protocol. Does anyone have any suggestions of >how I can convince her to try this? Thanks for any tips. This is so hard - >especially being away from her. Dale > > >Fantasticweaseli [Fantasticweaseli] >Monday, June 30, 2003 6:11 PM >nature cure >Re: [nature cure] Re: Natural Cancer Treatments > > >in conncection with the e mail from m.m.wagstaff the 26th june: > > >my mum recently died of pancreatic cancer and she was diagnosed about this >time last year. i found out about carctol and was so hopeful, she took it >for a month and a half and was better very quickly, she then had to have a >big operation called a hepatodochojejunumostomy, which was intended >initially to be a whipples, but during the proceedure they couldn't do it as >the cancer was attached to a main artery. so after this huge intervention, >many hours in surgery, she recovered quite fast for a 74 year old woman, she >had not eaten for 16 days after as she couldn't initially, the stomach has >to be kept clear for some time and they simply maintained her on a p.i.g. >regime (potassium,insulin,glucose), when she was allowed to eat she >couldn't, she had dropped weight, stamina and hope. she decided to give up >on the carctol as she didn't have the presence of mind to maintain the >regime that went with it. her choice, my loss, i tried to change her mind, >very stubborn lady, she won, i lost. >she was so unwell. >she picked up by last christmas a bit. we managed a short spell of quality >time before her health went downhill again and she died in april. however, >my point in all this is, i think if she would have continued with the >carctol she would still be here, because the change in her, even after such >a short time of taking it, was astonishing, in fact when she went in for her >operation she was radiant, and she said " i don't know what i'm doing here, i >feel great " . to which the surgeon replied, " that's the best way to go in >for an operation " . >guess that's probably right, however, i wonder if she would have trusted to >carctol only and continued taking it whether it would have been ok. it's >hard to know isn't it? it's all so scary. i miss her. >please would you let me know how it goes with your mum, i hope that it >works for your family. >all good wishes to you, my thoughts are with you and everyone out there who >is struggling with this heavy load. >love >lulu >xx > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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