water retention

[Guest guest]

Jeanette,

Might look at Potassium....? I'm going to forward something I

found in Max Gerson's book ~ A Cancer Therapy, that tells the unique balance

between Potassium and Sodium.

Please do not take it that I think you have a real severe problem,

I just got this inform from this book, and needed to acknowledge where

I got it from.

Quote:

I mentioned several days ago, that I was reading this great book by

Max

Gerson MD, called A Cancer Therapy.

 

He states:

"An explanation for the importance of the absorbtion of these minerals

was propounded by V. Bunge, who said that there must be more K, or

potassium in the organs in general than Na, sodium, must be maintained.

K has to be predominant chiefly within the cells (called, therfore,

intracellular) while Na has to stay outside the cells in serum, lymph,

connective tissue (therfore called extracellular). Later obserbations

led to the opinion that the minerals do not react singly but in groups.

As a consequence, Dr. Rudolph Keller established the doctrine of the

two

mineral groups, the intracellular (potassium) or anodic group traveling

to the anode, and the extracelular (sodium) or cathodic group traveling

to the cathode under biological conditions. A further consequence

was

the disccovery that hormones, vitamins and enzymes obey the same rule

as

the two mineral groups; this means that their function depends upon

the

prevalence of the K-group within the cells of the organs and tissues

such as the liver, muscles, brain, heart, kidney cortex, etc.,

whereas

the Na-group remains outside of them. The Na-group is stationed in

the

fluids and tissues; serum, lymph, connective tissue, thyroid, bile

ducts, etc. Here are also the cathodic or negative vitamins and

enzymes, of which the main functions, metabolism and storage are

confined to this extracellular group.

To the K-group belong about 60 percent of the body tissues and to the

Na-group 30 percent; 10 percent are on the borderline. All of

them are

kept in their proper place, probably by means of their electrical

potential. During the day, some Na penetrates the potassium tissues,

and

this is followed by chloride and water, a process which brings about

fatigue, a little heaviness or swelling. At night, it is reabsorbed

and

in the morning it is eliminated in urine, and the person feels

refreshed.

Later in the book, One thing that caught my attention was this

paragraph:

" In a normal body all is alive, especially the basic substances built

by the minerals, they have ionized or activated potassium and minerals

of the potassium group with a positive electrical potentials.

In a sick body- mainly in cancer- potassium is inactive- sodium and

minerals of the sodium group are ionized with negative potentials.

On

this basis all other abnormal processes develop as consequences. For

healing purposes the body must be detoxified- activated with ionized

minerals, natural food so that the essential organs can function again.

For healing the body brings about a kind of inflammation. That is a

tremendous transformation reaction. This renders the body hypersensitive

or allergic to a high degree against abnormal or strange substances

(including bacilli, cancer cells, scars, etc.,) Consequently the more

malignant the cells are the more effective is the treatment. I think

this is "the end effect or secret of the treatment". The school of

von

Bergmann did reveal some of the features of the allergic reaction."

He states that in his cancer therapy, the ideal task is to restore the

function of the oxidizing systems in the entire organism. This,

of

course, is difficult to accomplish. It involves the following:

1) detoxication of the whole body,

2) providing the essential mineral contents of the

potassium group,

3) adding oxidizing enzymes continually as long as

they are not

reactivated and buil in the body (in the form of green leaf juice

and

fresh calf's liver juice). This will create a near normal condition

of

the oxidizing system in the body, to which malignant cells with the

fermentation system cannot adapt....

This book's ISBN # is 0-88268-203-2

It is really a great book. An educational read.

You know, I always thought that these no sodium diets were all fad's,

but I see that sodium 'may' in some extreme conditions, kind

of take

over, and unbalance things, if potassium is not what it should be.

I

didn't understand the positive andd negative charges of the minerals,

but this makes lots of sence. I am learning a lot!

End of Quote.

Also, might look into Capsicum, to help support the heart .

Jennifer

Jeanette Scott wrote:

Hi ,

I am new to this group, Jeanette 39y from Scotland. I am looking for the

best herbal remedies for water retention, swollen ankles, I am currently

using stinging nettle capsules with some success any other suggestion,

that can be bought from a health or herbal store

--

Health, Hope, Joy & Healing :

May you Prosper, even as your Soul Prospers 3John 2

Jennifer

Email advice is not a substitute for medical treatment.

____________

«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤

¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯

 

[Guest guest]

I was told dandelion root is a powerful diruetic also.

 

Take good care and have a great day.

 

Love,

Renee and Jerry

[Guest guest]

I am also interested in this. I have recently (4 weeks ago) started a

new exercise routine. I have been exercising at lunch 4 to 5 days a

week, and after work 3 days a week. So getting around 4 hours of a mix

of cardio and weight training a week. I have found that I am retaining

a lot of water (around 5 lbs I think).

 

I drink 1 litre of water in the morning before I go to work. Around

1.5 litres during work, then another .5 to 1 litre in the evening. So

I think I am getting enough water.

 

I was thinking it was an adjustment period where my body is getting

used to the extra exercise, but it has been going on for quite a while

now.

 

Any ideas??

 

Janene

[Guest guest]

I don't know of an herbal remedy, but I do know that Aloe gel in herbal tea (or lemonade) or freshly juiced grapefruit juice act as wonderful natural diuretic. Although she can significantly increase her water intake and that should do the trick too.

 

Bea

Email: bhurd

 

 

Fahad [shark007]Wednesday, April 10, 2002 5:04 PMherbal remedies Subject: [herbal remedies] water retention

Hi ,

 

My mother says she is suffering from water retention , and bloating, does anyoneknow an adequate cure?

 

thanks,

FahadFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

[Guest guest]

Dear Fahad,

Sounds like Kidney Problems.

Best is to make some Juniper Berry tea.

If you don't have access to Juniper, then try UVA URSI.

Failing that, have your grocer save you the tops off of corn, and use the corn silk in a tea.

This should help.

Love,

Doc

 

Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington

 

-

Fahad

herbal remedies

Wednesday, April 10, 2002 5:03 PM

[herbal remedies] water retention

 

Hi ,

 

My mother says she is suffering from water retention , and bloating, does anyoneknow an adequate cure?

 

thanks,

Fahad

[Guest guest]

Dear Janene,

 

Water retention is usually an indicator of improper diet and Kidney malfunction. Of course behind that could be a Liver problem as well. The first place I'd look, is at the Kidneys, and do a thorough Kidney / Bladder Cleanse.

 

Love,

Doc

 

PS. One of the big indicators of Kidney problems is that usually (not always) a person so suffering will have an unusual amount of Body Odor.

 

Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington

 

-

janenebg

herbal remedies

Wednesday, April 10, 2002 5:14 PM

Re: [herbal remedies] water retention

I am also interested in this. I have recently (4 weeks ago) started a new exercise routine. I have been exercising at lunch 4 to 5 days a week, and after work 3 days a week. So getting around 4 hours of a mix of cardio and weight training a week. I have found that I am retaining a lot of water (around 5 lbs I think).I drink 1 litre of water in the morning before I go to work. Around 1.5 litres during work, then another .5 to 1 litre in the evening. So I think I am getting enough water.I was thinking it was an adjustment period where my body is getting used to the extra exercise, but it has been going on for quite a while now.Any ideas??Janene

[Guest guest]

--- ikbods <ikbods wrote:

my abdomen has been swollen with water retention for

several months, rach

 

first of all, are you on a water pill (diuretics)? If

you are, then stop taking it and drink drink drink

water. Water flushes toxins away. You should drink

1/2 ounce of water for every pound that you weigh. You

may also drink tea or furit juice, but don't count the

liquid in these as the 1/2 oz per lb.

 

if you havn't already, throw away the salt shaker.

also, throw away the msg, aspartane packets, etc.

 

you probably need to detox too. Toxins swell you up.

 

try going veg for awhile. Animal products Milk,

dairy, eggs, don't always digest so well. Consider a

live food diet (not cooked, just as many fresh veggies

as you can eat or juice 'em and drink 'em) Lightly

steamed is OK.

 

This worked for me. My feet and ankles used to swell

up like baloons. My doctor, in his " wisdom "

prescribed more and stronger diuretics. Diuretics rob

you body of wate, overwork the kidneys, and flush away

the good stuff with the bad. Your body works in a

dehydrated mode, and toxins accumulate. Once I

stopped the water pills, and started eating a vegan

diet, the swelling went away, the edema in my face

went away and I look and feel 10 years younger.

 

jan

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

I agree completely with Suzi. Your symptoms are typical of Irritable Bowel Syndrome. Look at the intestinal cleanse #1 and #2. It should straighten this out for ya.

 

Janet

 

-

Suzanne

herbal remedies

Tuesday, August 05, 2003 9:44 AM

Re: [herbal remedies] water retention

 

Sounds like a good cleanse would be in order... check in the files under Dr.IanShillington for Intestinal Cleanse #1... This would be where you should start.... then cleanse from there the kidneys, etc.

Suziikbods <ikbods wrote:

 

hello there, i am new to this group and hoping to find help with this problem thanks!my abdomen has been swollen with water retention for several months, i had a kidney infection which is now cleared up but the water retention is still there, my abdomen is very swollen and quite uncomfortable, i also have some problems with bowels (sometimes constipated, sometimes diorreah)any help much appreciatedcheersrach

[Guest guest]

> > Atma Namaste,

> > I'm asking your kind help to know how to treat the

> > water retention in

> > the body; like water retention in the legs, in the

> > testicles, in the

> > eye bags and other body parts.

> > I will really appreciate your kind suggestions.

> > With much love,

> > Gian

 

===============================

> > Dear Gian,

> > Atma namaste.

> > Thank you for your email.

> > Kindly indicate any other conditions or ailments

> of

> > this patient.

> > Love,

> > Marilette

===================================

 

> Dear Marilette,

> Atma Namaste

> Thank you for your email.

> The patient is a 50 y.o. male a little nervouse but

> healty. He has the right testicle retaining water

> from long time, but with no consequence on his

> sexual activity. In the morning he shows eye bags

> due to water retention. He sleeps normally but with

> two/three interruptions per night to drink and

> sometime to pee.

> This is all.

> Thank you for your kind help.

>

> With much love

> Gian

 

 

========================================

 

 

Dear Gian,

 

Atma namaste.

 

Thank you for the additional information.

 

Pranic Healing:

 

1. Invoke and scan before, during and after

treatment.

 

2. General sweeping.

 

3. Apply Pranic Psychotherapy thoroughly for stress.

 

4. Localized thorough sweeping on the back solar

plexus chakra and the meng mein

chakra.

 

5. Localized thorough sweeping on the kindeys

alternately with LWG and LWO. Energize the kidneys

with W.

 

6. Localized thorough sweeping on the sex chakra and

testicle minor chakra. Energize with LWR.

 

7. Localized thorough sweeping on the legs and feet

and their minor chakras alternately with LWG and LWO.

Energize the minor chakras with LWR.

 

8. Localized thorough sweeping on the eyes, temple

minor, jaw minor and back head minor chakras.

Energize the minor chakras with LWG, then ordinary

LWV.

 

9. Localized thorough sweeping on the navel, perineum

minor and basic chakras. Energize with LWR.

 

10. Stabilize and release projected energy.

 

11. Repeat treatment 3 times a week.

 

FOR PATIENT

 

12. Avoid salty food and reduce salt intake in

general.

 

13. Daily physical exercise, 30 minutes to 1 hour per

session.

 

14. Drink sufficient amounts of fresh water daily.

 

15. Avoid alcohol and smoking.

 

Love,

 

Marilette

 

Source: MASTER CHOA KOK SUI - Miracles Through Pranic Healing, Advanced Pranic

Healing, Pranic Psychotherapy, Pranic Crystal Healing.

 

PHQANDA and its contents are copyrighted by the Institute for Inner Studies,

Inc.(IISI). Downloading, reproducing or copying in any manner or form, in part

or as a whole, is prohibited without expressed written permission from IISI.

Exception is given for single copy made for personal use only and when a brief

passage or quotation is reproduced within proper context, without alteration and

with proper acknowledgment.

NOTICE:

1. Pranic Healing is not intended to replace orthodox medicine, but rather to

complement it. If symptoms persist or if the ailment is severe, please consult

immediately a medical doctor and a Certified Pranic Healer.

2. Pranic Healers who are are not medical doctors should not prescribe nor

interfere with prescribed medications and/or medical treatments. ~ Master Choa

Kok Sui

 

MCKS Pranic Healing website: http://www.pranichealing.org.

 

 

 

______________________________\

____

Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for

today's economy) at Games.

http://get.games./proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow

[Guest guest]

Steve,

" My hands and feeet are visibly swollen---I can't get my ring

off, and skin is puffy around it. It's not real bad, but my right hand

hurts from it sometimes. I don't use much salt or fried (very rare)

foods. My (regretable) medications do not have this side effect, and "

 

I've noticed my ankle was swelling up in the last few months plus I

gained 10#. There was no reason for either to occur. I haven't

gained 10# since I was pregnant.

 

In November when I could no longer tolerate the amount of sea salt

they used in meats and packaged foods, those symptoms first appeared.

[Guest guest]

While my annual check ups i have got " Edema' which indicate water retention in

my legs and also stated that blood circulation is not okay in lower limbs. i

have done cupping therapy by a expert and got relief from legs pain as the blood

which was bad is removed by cupping and take -

1.SAHACHARAADI TAILAM [Mix 5 drops of oil in 100 ml cow milk and drink ]-

twice daily.

2.LASUNADI VATI-2 tab twice daily

3. {SWARNA MAKSHIKA BHASMAM- 20 m.g

sATAVARI CHURNAM-100 Gm }mix both churnam and bhasmam and take 3 gm of

this mixture twice daily.

 

4. Apply SAHACHARADI TAILAM externally

 

i am feeling good and healthy. Only thing still cause concern is water retention

is not gone. will someone suggest for the diet and excercise or medicine to

eliminate that disorder.

[Guest guest]

I’d suggest cypress, grapefruit or other citrus oils for breathing. Herbal

remedies are good, too. Cornsilk tea releases excess fluid nicely. If he’s

really strapped for cash, he could find an untreated area and harvest fresh

dandelion greens to sauté or use in a salad. Gentle exercise may help, as

well. Rebounder comes to mind.

 

Wishing you well,

 

Mary Sahs, ND

 

www.marysnatural.com <http://www.marysnatural.com/>

 

www.atasteforhealth.com <http://www.atasteforhealth.com/>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Limiting the salt intake is extremely important. It can be difficult, but

making food from scratch is the easiest way to do it - avoiding canned foods or

pre-made mixes.

Dandelion leaf tea (or eaten as a vegetable, or capsules if necessary) is a good

potassium sparing diuretic, and is usually available freely this time of year,

depending on where you live.

 

Cutting out all salt and adding lots of greens were the most effective things

when I was caring for a relative with severe water retention. Good luck!

Tina

www.essentialherbal.com