What ails homeopathy and ayurveda?

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Dear Friends,

 

Both ayurveda and homeopathy are beset with problems. Most very similar to what

modern medicine faces.

 

1. The quality of students that should join these courses, people with both

practical and intuitive skills, are not studying these courses. 

2. The homeopathic and ayurvedic systems require a holistic view. The core

principles of these systems are often very puzzling to the students.

3. The students are made to doubt their theory by modern doctors who come to

teach them anatomy, physiology, epidemology and public health concepts. They try

to teach their own methods without a glimpse into the genious of these systems.

As a result students are exposed to reductionist views.

4. House surgeonship is often completed in modern hospitals as very few of

patients on homeopathic treatment require hospitalisation. In ptient crowd in

ayurvedic hospitals is also not much. Both these systems are of the view that

patients are best treated in an environment they are familiar with. 

5. Nowadays the super speciality hospital concept  is being copied by ayurvedic

practitioners too.

6. Neither homeopathy nor ayurveda is very keen about over the counter products.

The various tonics/preparations give  relief  but whether the patients head

towards recovery is a big question.

7. Homeopathy is not homeopthy without its core principles and neither is

ayurveda.

8. Without a strong base of fundamentals, the emerging doctors may not feel

comfortable in their professions and suffer from inferiority complex.

9. Neither homeopathy or ayurveda is an profitable venture. In earlier times the

intelligentia of the society used to study and practice for the sake of service

and not for profit. Today we are seeing the blatant commercialisation that has

taken over these systems too. Big brother is also to be blamed for this.

10. Today medicines are prepared by machines whereas skilled personnel added

their own skills with the knowledge of medicine and its philosopy and thus value

enriched the systems.

11. Homeopathy is an energy based system where case taking, examination,

consultation, prescription, delivery all required specialised skills. In

ayurveda individual skills was very important. In ayurveda the vaidyas prepared

their own medicines to perfectly match the body constitution of the patient..

12. Patients today require " instant relief " thus the homeopath and ayurved often

stray from their strict retinue.

13. With increased medication, vaccination the symptoms the body expresses have

undergone a sea change for the worst. The normal symptoms do not present

themselves. This is a very important reason homeopaths and ayurveds try their

best to stop early medication and vaccination of children. With their knowledge

they see children loose their natural immunity. These children are very

difficult to treat. Once upon a time children responded very well to homeopathy

but now with diseases expressed due to toxicity, the children display symptoms

that are very difficult to cure.

14. The quality of medicines was due to plants growing naturally in different

ecosystems and types of soil, the same plant could yield solutions to different

illnesses. Today we have mass production, monocultures, and overuse of

pesticides and fertlisers affecting deeply the medicinal properties in plants.

15. In ayurveda even the plucking of medicicines required appropriate timing and

chants. These have been forgotten. The practitioners also led very strict lives.

Therefore they developed strong intuition powers. They respected the plants and

requested it to deliver its  potential. Today we see pranic healers, energy

healers, Reiki practitioners trying to follow such practices.

 

We hope AYUSH takes all these factors into consideration and try to lift all

systems available in order to give a choice to the patient.

 

Regards,

Jagannath.

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When i took admission for my BAMS course in 1995 , the course fee was

merely Rs 3200/- per year in my government aided college & like Rs . 40,000 /-

per year in non aided college . Today the fee structure is revised . The govt

college have Rs . 30,000 /- per year & the private ranges from Rs 1,00,000 to

1,50,000 per year . What made this difference ? Was really the fee structure

today increased like a balloon for the overall price rise ? Is it justifiable to

increase the fee by upto 400 % in just 14 years ? What should the middle class

man do when he invests his overall income in making his child as a doctor ?

After increasing the fee structure like havoc , do we really get the perfect

genuine education today ?

 

Why Ayurveda lacked behind compared to 50 years before ? We don't have that

much knowledge now like our ancestors do . What is the reason ? I have one

example of one of my senior in my colloge . His father was knowing some herb

which was 100 % effective to treat for Cobra poison . But my senior , whose dad

was knowing that , was not knowing about that herb . It is really surprising . A

father who knows something unique , dones't want to tell about this to his

disciples ! WHY ? This made to vanish some rare medicines .

 

Today the pharmacies have their own jungles of herbs . We don't know which

herb they pick & give us under some name ? We don't know if the manufacturing

date on the packing of the medicine is really genuine ? Brahmi leaves should be

dried under roof . Is it followed ideally in each pharmacy ? If yes , then y

these herbs are not result oriented in the told time ?

 

When greed enters in anything , it starts to destroy the genuinity . We all

know today's colleges are of the politicians who just want money & money every

time . They don't want the perfect doctor to come out of the college . They

provide degree certificates to the so called doctors ! I have seen one medical

college which is owned by a reputed politician , manipulating the case records

of the hospital for the recommendation of the university . They admitted their

labours as patients in the hospital on the inspection day . They got the

recommendation for the medical college & started it . Where will this head

towards ?

 

Today pharma companies r willing to provide anything to the doctors to

increase their sale . A medicine which must be costing for Re . 1 /- goes on for

Rs 20 or 30 /- . A common man bears all this . He don't know about these things

..

 

In rural areas all the medical practitioners r BAMS or BHMS . Government

knows about this very well . Not any MBBS doctor want to go to rural area for

their profession . Inspite of these things Allopathy system of medicine earns

much govt attention . Why they don't see the other natural pathies in the same

eye ?

 

Reserch oriented work should be done in today's era . How many research

institutes r there today for Ayurveda or Homeopathy ?

 

After paying huge amount of money , do u think , today's doctor will do

charity ? It is getting impossible to bear the overload of the graduation in

terms of fees ! Inspite of having good IQ , one can't get admission for good

medical graduation or for post graduation in medicine in the terms of fees !

 

What AYUSH is going to do about these questions ?

 

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Both ayurveda and homeopathy are beset with problems. Most very similar to what

modern medicine faces.

 

1. The quality of students that should join these courses, people with both

practical and intuitive skills, are not studying these courses..........

 

Full message can be read at:

ayurveda/message/16530

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I only pray that Ayurved and Homeopathy practitioners take this reality in

positive spirit.

Reference messages:

ayurveda/message/16536

ayurveda/message/16530

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What ails homeopathy and Ayurveda is everone's concern. It is the department of

Ayush that should take strict steps to set things right. Admissions should be on

merit only. Fees should be reduced to what people can afford to pay. The deficit

must be funded by Ayush.

Health must get priority it deserves or else the entire nation would suffer with

weak people and weaker future. People should revolt to get what is required.

Direct pressure by elected representatives on the govt. and the dept of Ayush is

utmost necessary or else, don't vote for them in future and make it absolutely

clear to them.  

Let us prepare such a representation and send it to all MPs, MLSs and the rest.

Mr. Jaggannath Chaterjee has taken the lead. Let us all help him. Hope, God will

also help!

 

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When i took admission for my BAMS course in 1995 , the course fee was merely Rs

3200/- per year in my government aided college & like Rs . 40,000 /- per year in

non aided college . Today the fee structure is revised . The govt college have

Rs . 30,000 /- per year & the private ranges from Rs 1,00,000 to 1,50,000 per

year .

[Guest guest]

i think a 400% increase in 14 years is not much . please compare this to

allopathic colleges where capitation itself is upto 35 lakhs. As uyou said greed

takes away the performance of a thing so keep upto that you also charge

according to your needs but be careful not to play with a petient's life. Be

honest with him. and you will be rewarded. i am a house wife not a protagonist

of the government or the colleges. But in order to run an institution you do

need funds . and where will they come from. if the owners of colleges are

fleecing then they are sowing for themselves they will reap it also.--

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.......Is it justifiable to increase the fee by upto 400 % in just 14 years

?.......

[Guest guest]

Mrs . Mridula ji . If it is ok , then it means that , in the coming 5 - 7 years

or so , it will be again 400 % from the current rate . In the coming era it wll

go on skyrocketing . Being a reader of some science & to take a degree r

different matters . As per ur saying , it will be mandatory to pay a fee of 4

lacs per year in the coming 5 - 7 years or so !

What is the capitation fee ? Why it is taken ? Is it used by the college

authorities for the welfare of students ? It is total black money used for the

college owners . I just stated some true facts & wanted to show the current view

towards the medical side .

 

 

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i think a 400% increase in 14 years is not much . please compare this to

allopathic colleges where capitation itself is upto 35 lakhs.

[Guest guest]

I know that education should be widely and easily available but in order to

provide it some money is required. I compared these fees with the allopathy

college fees. any other college like IIMs also charge 4 lacs if I am not

mistaken.  Yes, most of the college capitation would be going in their pockets

but my daughter used to say (when she was studying in an engineering college)

that its is good that they take capitation as because of that we get better

facilities, labs etc.

 

The bigger ailment of homeopathy and ayurveda is low self esteem. Despite being

such good systems that have real cures, the practitioners think themselves to be

less than the allopaths. Firstly, the society sees it such; upon that, if we

also see ourselves like that, despite being superior to them, then how will

these treatment lines gain popularity.

 

Being indigenous, yes, government should highly subsidize the fees.

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As per ur saying , it will be mandatory to pay a fee of 4 lacs per year in the

coming 5 - 7 years or so !

What is the capitation fee ? Why it is taken ? Is it used by the college

authorities for the welfare of students ?

[Guest guest]

Dear Mridula ji . There is much difference in BAMS / BHMS & IIM courses .

IIM courses r recommended all over the world . BAMS / BHMS r not recommended all

over the world . We can't practice the science in many Countries with a degree

in these sciences on Indian soil . This makes a big difference in between these

.. Hence there is not any point in comparing these systems .

 

I strongly believe the treatments of Ayurveda & hence practice it purely . I

have MBBS - MD doctors as my patients . They take the treatment as they know the

reality . Part of ur statement is true that some doctors of BAMS / BHMS can have

low self esteem due to various reasons .

 

The alterntive systems like Ayurveda & Homeopathy r the futuristic

medicines . It can be seen with the increasing number of people turning to take

panchkarma therapies , bitter medicines , churnas with dincharya & rutucharya .

It will take some time to build this on large specturm .

 

But u need a degree to practice some science . And if the fees r much more

, then many people cant turn to these sides , making it 3 rd or 4 th choice . It

will create more downturn to these systems . If we really want to make these

sciences on the top spot , then the admissions to these sciences should be in

top order . The admission for these alternative sciences should be done first &

then there should be admissions of MBBS . If this can be possible , then the

self esteems of the BAMS / BHMS students will be true .

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The bigger ailment of homeopathy and ayurveda is low self esteem. Despite being

such good systems that have real cures, the practitioners think themselves to be

less than the allopaths.

[Guest guest]

" The admission for these alternative sciences should be done first & then there

should be admissions of MBBS . If this can be possible , then the self esteems

of the BAMS / BHMS students will be true " .

These words of yours are very true. I am a convent educated woman belong to a

fashionable, glamorous society but i talk of vedas and ayurveda and all our

ancient heritage quite contrary to my looks, my mother was a gurukul sanatika

and she was well versed in all these. And I look upto all her knowledge with

reverence.

 

I have been asking people who were putting up new private university to add

these departments and they agreed. He asked me that if I get him the syllabus he

will put up the courses but will you believe what response i got from the

gurukuls. The pricipal of my mother's gurukul who was her junior told me that if

you think we are teaching what your mother learnt its not so . We are teaching

them all modern subjects. Gurukul Kangadi did not even bother to reply. And

other person told me that he had studied in a gurukul. In my eyes a sudden

respect rose for him. but his next sentence was that he is suffering from the

complex of not being able to speak English. He is a successful  businessman. He

promised but did not get me the syllabus.  I think english is very important and

should be taught to the extent that out students can converse easily and with

pride in the international community. They shoukl be proud of the extra

knowledge that they possess of

which the world knows very little.

 

Earlier 49 years back this principal of kanya gurukul wanted someone who could

teach her girls to converse in english but in that enthusiasm the actual

syllabus was lost. 

 

When my husband had paralysis a neighbour doctor told me in hushed tones that

why don't i try the alternate therapies.

 

 

 

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The alterntive systems like Ayurveda & Homeopathy r the futuristic medicines .

...

But u need a degree to practice some science . And if the fees r much more,..It

will create more downturn to these systems . If we really want to make these

sciences on the top spot , then the admissions to these sciences should be in

top order .