Guest guest Posted September 23, 2003 Report Share Posted September 23, 2003 How about a formula with a fairly high dose of bai shao? Since it soothes spasms and treats diarrhea, it may be helpful here. I know his loss of bowel control is not what is typically thought of as diarrhea, but I still think there may be applicability since is often very metaphoric in its usages. G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2003 Report Share Posted September 24, 2003 Chinese Medicine , Acupunkgina@a... wrote: > How about a formula with a fairly high dose of bai shao? Since it soothes > spasms and treats diarrhea, it may be helpful here. I know his loss of bowel > control is not what is typically thought of as diarrhea, but I still think there > may be applicability since is often very metaphoric in its > usages. > G > > Hello G, Thanks G, I will keep that in mind when he comes in for the next treatment. JingHong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2003 Report Share Posted September 24, 2003 I had same patent like you, and she was successfully stand up. You said the pt. has spasm at the lower limber, it is in the limber on at side of muscle? You can choose Jiaji around the limber and local Bladder points (plus electric stimulation), ear Shenmen and lower back, may can help. Good Luck! By the way, where are you? Did you study Chinese medicine in China? Judy Hello Every One, I have a male patient (18 years old), who was paralysed from waist down after an aotumobile accident last year. Doctor confirmed he had lost all senses waist down. I had giving him acupuncture and tui-na sessions for the past one year. Actual he can feel all and even can control his bowel and urine movement. He is expriencing spasm at the lower limbs. Recently the MD gave him medication to relax his spasm in the stomach and legs which resulted in him being unable to control his bowel movement. And he want very much to do away with them. Can any one on the list give me some advice on what points to use or ways of tui-na or even on herbal medicine, so that i can reduce his spasm? Thanks. JingHong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2003 Report Share Posted September 24, 2003 In a message dated 9/24/03 10:46:47 AM Eastern Daylight Time, kamhongng writes: Can any one on the list give me some advice on what points to use or ways of tui-na or even on herbal medicine, so that i can reduce his spasm? HI, I have used magnesium, skullcap and lobelia to reduce spasms. Since you have been doing good acupuncture I would be interested in knowing what you have tried already and then maybe I can make some suggestions. I used to use kava with skullcap and lobelia for spasms but you have to be very careful in someone with an already over taxed liver. Also anything that relaxes the liver might help such as Chinese formulas depending on pulse/tongue but I think things which treat internal wind such as Gastrodia and Unicaria and possibly Free and Easy or Purge Internal Wind with additions could be helpful. Bobbi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2003 Report Share Posted September 25, 2003 , al stone <alstone@b...> wrote: > The combination of Bai Shao (white Peony root) and Zhi Gan Cao (honey > fried licorice) are often used together for abdominal and leg cramps. > The formula " Shao Yao Gan Cao Tang " is made up of these two herbs and > is available pre-made from most of the better herb manufacturers. > > The condition that this formula addresses is Liver Blood deficiency. It > is also used for Liver/Spleen disharmonies. > > If I can restate the syndrome a bit, one might consider Liver Qi / > Spleen issues to also manifest as nervous system problems giving rise > to muscle cramps which I suspect is your guy's problem. > > I don't see any contraindications in the Formulas and Strategies text. > I can't think of any problem that can arise from the use of this > formula, unless of course it has a bizarre interaction with his > existing drug therapy, if any. Gan Cao has a hypertensive effect too, > though I'm not sure how this will effect your patient in the short > term, either. > > -al. Hello Al, Yes, his spasm became worse when he is angry or agitated. I needled CV12 and LI11 too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2003 Report Share Posted September 25, 2003 Hi Jason, Thanks. regards, JingHong , Jason Robertson <kentuckyginseng> wrote: > One approach that has been effective here in Beijing this week for facial muscle spasms goes as follows: > > If the condition obviously involves more than one of the Yang channels (anywhere on the body), then one might drain the Yang Qiao meridian (drain UB 62) while supplementing the Yin Qiao meridian (supplement Kidney 6). If the condition involves more than one Yin channel, try the oppositte approach. Of course, one should also add distal points on the primary affected channel as well while avoiding needling into the belly of any muscle with acute spasms. > > respectfully, > Jason Robertson > > > > Jason Robertson, L.Ac. > Ju Er Hu Tong 19 Hao Yuan 223 Shi > > Beijing, Peoples Republic of China > > home-86-010-8405-0531 > cell- 86-010-13520155800 > > > > > The New with improved product search > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2003 Report Share Posted September 27, 2003 Hi Judy And Bobbi, I and my husband are living in Penang Island in Malaysia. Both of us have attended a 5-year course in in the Institute of Chinese Physicians in Penang.At the present moment we are practicing chinese medicine, acup and tui-na, on a part time basis. OK. Let me relate a bit of my patient's case history. This boy had any automobile accident sometime around March 2002. As a result, his C4,C5 are crashed. Hospital did an operation on him. Now he has a constructed C4 & C5 an 2 metal plates and some screws in his back. After the operation, sometime around May 2003, I started acupuncture on him. I also use electro and scalp Acup. From zero sensation to wriggling of his toes and also bending of his legs. Because of the leg spasm, his movement is jerky. As we proceed, I also use tui-na. He did some stretching and work- outs at home, and he can stand up wobbly and with assistance. He leg mausle is fully developed and well formed. 4 months ago, he went to the Spinal unit in Kuala Lumpur(we are in Malaysia). Down there, he was taught how to do things on his own like:moving from bed to wheel chair; cather himself(because they believe that he cannot urinate on his own)and others chores. But not much physiotherathy and physical work-out. The hospital also gave him medication to reduce the spasm so much that his leg muscle also slacked but with an upper muscular body. Now we continue the acup treatment. The first session his stomach is tight and felt bloated. His leg is very stiff and cramped up when needle is inserted. I gave him some formula to " Shu Gan " . On second session, his tummy is more relax and the spasm seems more gentle. So far, I have not use any moxa on him. OK, it's such a long story. Hope this is of any help. Sincerely, JingHong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2003 Report Share Posted September 30, 2003 Jinghong, Please try GB34 and reduce it. You also can choose scalp needle, too. Like Motor area, and Area of controlling St. Vitus' dance and paralysis agitans (front of motor area 1.5 cm). Judy Hi Judy And Bobbi, I and my husband are living in Penang Island in Malaysia. Both of us have attended a 5-year course in in the Institute of Chinese Physicians in Penang.At the present moment we are practicing chinese medicine, acup and tui-na, on a part time basis. OK. Let me relate a bit of my patient's case history. This boy had any automobile accident sometime around March 2002. As a result, his C4,C5 are crashed. Hospital did an operation on him. Now he has a constructed C4 & C5 an 2 metal plates and some screws in his back. After the operation, sometime around May 2003, I started acupuncture on him. I also use electro and scalp Acup. From zero sensation to wriggling of his toes and also bending of his legs. Because of the leg spasm, his movement is jerky. As we proceed, I also use tui-na. He did some stretching and work- outs at home, and he can stand up wobbly and with assistance. He leg mausle is fully developed and well formed. 4 months ago, he went to the Spinal unit in Kuala Lumpur(we are in Malaysia). Down there, he was taught how to do things on his own like:moving from bed to wheel chair; cather himself(because they believe that he cannot urinate on his own)and others chores. But not much physiotherathy and physical work-out. The hospital also gave him medication to reduce the spasm so much that his leg muscle also slacked but with an upper muscular body. Now we continue the acup treatment. The first session his stomach is tight and felt bloated. His leg is very stiff and cramped up when needle is inserted. I gave him some formula to " Shu Gan " . On second session, his tummy is more relax and the spasm seems more gentle. So far, I have not use any moxa on him. OK, it's such a long story. Hope this is of any help. Sincerely, JingHong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2004 Report Share Posted July 6, 2004 What is the best thing for muscle spasm. It is very bad case, and person even has a fever because of this. thanks jasminaFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2004 Report Share Posted July 6, 2004 Thank you regards jasminaDoc Shillington <DocShillington wrote: Deep Tissue Repair Oil and Lobelia. Love, Doc Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.727-738-0554DocShillington - Jasmina Alisic herbal remedies Tuesday, July 06, 2004 2:53 PM Re: Herbal Remedies - muscle spasm What is the best thing for muscle spasm. It is very bad case, and person even has a fever because of this. thanks jasminaFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2009 Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 Dear Vaidyas, This is in connection to muscle spasm. Some did ask in the previous post. I too have a muscle spasm,in thr Trapezius muscle. Doing exercise too. Any home remedies for that too. thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 I suggested papaya. Don't take it lightly as my husband's spasms on the cheek disappeared after eating papaya which a doctor asked me to give.. This is due to eficiency of vitaminb12 which is found in yellow coloured veggies like pumpkin as well. cell salts also are very efficient. __________ I too have a muscle spasm,in thr Trapezius muscle. Doing exercise too. Any home remedies for that too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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