Guest guest Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 The mind should be free from all kinds of tension. A gentle oil massage on the head is recommended. First and foremost is to keep the patient warm as warm as can be. In the villages they make them sleep on the rice husk or the dried rice plants. Nothing cold should be given. Not only that which feels cold to touch, but also that which has cold properties, like the banana. Banana is totally prohibited as it is very cold. No fruits other than Apple, Papaya and cheeku are to be given, no fruit juices, only soups and that too, the best is of black channa to which some Kulthi (horse Gram) should be added. These should be boiled (without being pre-soaked, as pre soaking makes it cold), the thick dark extract should be given, for utmost strength to the body. Nothing should be soaked for the stroke victim. Black channa gives strength and kulthi is for all nerve disorders. In a stroke, the patient loses weight too fast and too much, actually the cause of stroke is also malnutrition, so all kind of nutritive things should be given, of course taking into account the things prohibited. Bottlegourd, coriander, onions, curds, and tomatoes, sugar and tea, these all come under cold foods. These should be avoided. All kinds of fruits also have cold properties other than papaya, apple and cheeku. It is better to avoid tea and coffee and to give lots of milk. Sugar can be replaced with jaggery and sugar candy (mishri). As this happens due to malnutrition, so nutrition has to be supplemented as much as possible and through food alone. The water in which the patient takes bath should not be mixed with cold water. Water should be heated only to that point and no more. In case cold water has to be added then it should be mixed very well by lifting it and putting back with the mug. The glass or cup that is used for the patient should be first rinsed with hot water so that there is no trace of cold in the last bit of the drink given to the patient. Make it a habit for everyone. Cow's ghee preferably made at home is the best medium to cook a stroke patient's food. This has the properties of retaining what is needed by the body and throwing out what is not needed. It is not heavy as people generally believe; rather it is lighter and healthier, and it provides the much needed nutrition to the body. In the right sided stroke, speech is affected and there are many ways to bring it back. One is a homeopathic medicine by the name Causticum. It can be taken in 30 potency. Then Kali phos again of 30 potency is good for speech. Magnesia phos is good as well. It is also for all ailments of the right side. Another very interesting cure for speech is vadas made out of urad dal fried in cow's ghee. This has been mentioned in three books that I had. In earlier stages when the patient is not able to chew any thing and the diet is semi liquid, that time these vadas can be crushed in the mixie and added to the soup of the patient. Many oil formulations are there for application (oil massage of the body) on the side that is affected. The easiest one to make at home is; take sesame or mustard oil and put garlic and ginger in it, let it heat to the point of the herbs getting burnt, let cool down, then strain and bottle it. This has to be applied (not rubbed vigorously) on the affected parts and the applying has to be done downwards and outwards, away from the body, and after that a hot fomentation should be given. For this take an old cloth put some urid lentils in it, tie the cloth make two such potlis (bags) and on the tava, (the girdle), put both to heat, take one, give fomentation to the whole area where oil has been applied by the time this gets cold the other one is ready on the tava, now take that and put this first one on the girdle. It goes without saying that the potlis should be just hot enough to be bearable. This should not scald the patient. Like this alternate between the two so that there is no gap during fomentation. The hot oils for massage can be bought from any shops that dispense ayurvedic medicines. Mahanarayani is the most common oil but there are many more with good effect. This is good for the blood vessels that have gone cold; they come alive with this fomentation. Kali phos, a bio chemic medicine or cell salt or in plain language homeopathic medicine is the main remedy for the limp in the leg, the slur in the speech as well as the afflictions of the brain. It also helps the High Blood pressure. Kali phos is also a brain tonic thereby greatly helping the stroke patient. Kali phos helps the affliction of the speech due to paralysis, in short it is good for the total affectations by the stroke. Magnesia Phos is for strengthening of the nerves. A very good remedy for nerves as well as stroke itself, very effective for right sided afflictions. Calcarea flour is for the muscles. Calc phos for general health. All these are cell salts. An effective remedy is the horse gram(kulthi). Given in any form it relieves the effects of the stroke. This is a must. For general debility black channa soup can be given everyday. As a brain tonic, five almonds, five pistachios, five small green cardamoms, five munnakkas, five corns of black pepper all ground and mixed with misri should be given to the patient. One of the causes of stroke is malnutrition. It does not mean that a rich person cannot suffer from malnutrition; they are more prone to it as they eat whatever they like and afford and not according to the nutritional needs. So the deficiency of nutrients occurs and thus the stroke comes around. Due to this very reason there is a strong possibility of the stroke repeating itself. But if proper care is taken of the nutrition then the chances of a repeat can be aborted. Bhupen lived a full life 14 years after the stroke and it did not repeat. How do we make sure that nutrition is taken care of? If we give all kinds of vegetables and legumes to the patient that will ensure that he is fortified against malnutrition. Milk is an absolute essentiality. It should be cow's milk. The cow preferably desi the one with a hump and not the jersey cow, not the one which is genetically modified. If that is not possible then whatever best is available. Only three fruits, apple, papaya and cheeku can be taken. All other fruits are cold. All kinds of food, wide and varied should be taken if certain vegetables don't fit in your food preparations then add them to soups, saag, sambhar, pav bhaji, upama etc. Lots of ginger should be added to food or to be given in any other way to the patient. It is warm in nature and is carminative and digestive. Ginger with salt taken 20 minutes before meals stokes the digestive fire. I add lime juice to it. Similarly warm water taken in regular intervals helps the digestive fire. It is important for a stroke patient to clear his bowels, for this triphala is good as it is not habit forming and the best in initial stages is Castor oil with ginger powder. A tablespoon of castor oil and one tea spoon of ginger powder should be mixed in warm milk and taken 2-3 times a week is very helpful. Those who have bad memories of the smell of castor oil need not worry as these days it does not smell so bad and ginger is also an ameliorating factor to that smell. There is an exercise for control over the bowel movements, it helps dramatically. With the patient on his back fold the legs such that the feet are on the bed and closer to the buttocks, lift the hip region as much as the patient can and hold it for as long as he can. This exercise done regularly helps very much. It is also called the setu bandh asana. It is also called the pelvic lift. There is another exercise for control over motions and urination and that is the keggel exercises or in yoga it is called the ashwini mudra where you pull the anus upwards and release, do it a few times about 50- 60 times a day. Do not attempt to overdo this as it may result in adverse effect. Over doing it, gave slip disc to some one I know. Other exercises notwithstanding, those are as important so all the exercises should be done. For the mouth and the tongue: Roll the tongue over the teeth, upper jaw as well as lower jaw and outside as well as inside of the teeth. This strengthens the teeth as well as the gums, and the tongue also gets strength. Then another exercise is taking the tongue from one cheek to another stretching the cheeks out wards. Filling the mouth cavity with air is another good exercise. Filling air in the balloon is often advised. Stretching of the lips, action of saying U Z alternately also helps. All these exercises help in drooling as well. Simhasan is where we take the tongue out as much as possible make the sound of the roar of the lion, hence the name, is another exercise for controlling the drooling. Physiotherapy not withstanding: as that is what starts the patient to regain his functions i.e. movement of arms and legs. These should be continued till total movements are gained. Otherwise the muscles die away. This happens due to high blood pressure which again happens due to malnutrition and lack of oxygen. If there is a clot and the stroke happens due to a clot then homeopathic medicine, Calc Flour, a cell salt, (bio-Chemic) is very good to dissolve the clot, it also helps the muscles. 6 or 6X potency is what I used. In biochemic or homeopathic medicines Kali phos is the single best remedy for stroke. Of course Calc Phos should be taken for general health, calc flour for blood clot and muscle strength, Magnesia phos for magnesium, nerves and for right sided stroke, Kali mur for digestion, Natrum Mur for cold feeling or the cold that has set in the body. Natrum Mur also balances the water content in the cells. Mridula Sharma __________ Is there herbs and nutrients that can help a person after stroke? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 What you have written hot , cold , sleeping on straw are all appears a comic story to me. banana is a food. what will happen if he eats Banana? A few oils you mention and a few homeo medicines you mention, I don't want to comment. If the season is summer, do you keep on hot covering? This letter is not guiding, but misguiding. I have treated more than 2000 stroke patients . Doctors don't know which medicine cures a stroke, There are different medicines for cerebral hemorrhage , Ischemia etc. Stroke is a matter of brain problem and not the problem of the limbs. So brain needs to be strengthened and activated. Generally a stroke patient automatically recover even without medicine for the first two months then recovery stops. Many doctors thinking that their medicine is working. Progress stops at a stage and no recovery due to any medicine. At this stage you have to give medicine and produce recovery. The pity of the stroke patient is he never understands his disease first . It takes a long time to understand the right treatment procedures and mostly he don't know who will help him to recover. R.Vidhyasagar. ___________ The mind should be free from all kinds of tension. A gentle oil massage on the head is recommended. First and foremost is to keep the patient warm as warm as can be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 Stroke is never a disease of malnutrition. Homeopathic authors may be less knowledged of this disease. Vidhyasagar. ______________ actually the cause of stroke is also malnutrition, so all kind of nutritive things should be given, of course taking into account the things prohibited. ..... Bottlegourd, coriander, onions, curds, and tomatoes, sugar and tea, these all come under cold foods. These should be avoided. .......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 I found the article intelligent and altogether excellent - instead of people picking the article to pieces, why not give a blow by blow description of how you yourself might manage the stroke patient - if you cannot do that then it might be better to say nothing. Jane ___ What you have written hot , cold , sleeping on straw are all appears a comic story to me. banana is a food. what will happen if he eats Banana? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2009 Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 Okay I suggest, BP, diabetic medication can be continued by either by modern or by ayurveduc system.sheerabala avarthi gritham can be started along with swarna vath ratchasan tablet. Oil massage could be givenDiets all vegetarian preferably and no alcohol .That's all. Most of you will get fast relief in this prescription.Fresh cerebral hemorrhage cases to be delt carefully because vaso dilators may increase hemorrhage. So experience is needed in sleeting medicines according to individuals. _________________ instead of people picking the article to pieces, why not give a blow by blow description of how you yourself might manage the stroke patient - if you cannot do that then it might be better to say nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2009 Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 Dr Vidhya sagar , you have treated 2000 patients, I have treated only one and that was my husband. I looked into every book that was available to me and from there I am saying that it is due to nutritional deficiency. Won't you agree as a doctor that every ailment happens due to nutritional deficiencies. Some where others helped me so what ever I had gone through and whatever i knew and worked on, I wrote. i am not a doctor but I know that very simple things can work as wonder therapies. and I am searching those. _____________________ I have treated more than 2000 stroke patients . Doctors don't know which medicine cures a stroke, There are different medicines for cerebral hemorrhage , Ischemia etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 There must be very different types of Ayurvedic practitioner, for this does seem to be a very casual and therefore rather allopathic approach. Jane .......................................................... Okay I suggest, BP, diabetic medication can be continued by either by modern or by ayurveduc system.sheerabala avarthi gritham can be started along with swarna vath ratchasan tablet. Oil massage could be givenDiets all vegetarian preferably and no alcohol .That's all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 I think you seems wounded by my writing. sorry that is not my aim. Medicine is science and doctors know the causes. In India stroke patients are treated magically fearing that their enemies did some black magic against them. Patients are always ignorant and having wrong beliefs about diseases. That is natural. This disease is incurable after one year by any method. poor progress with in six months of attack. Well progress if treated with in three months of attack. In India Asthma patients, Brain fever attacked children, stroke patients are changing their doctors in every two three months with a belief of curing them. They are attempting without success. At one stage they will automatically stop treatments. Also they were misguided by different religious spiritual healers and no success. I thought you are a physician so I protested. Vidhyasagar _______________________ you have treated 2000 patients, I have treated only one and that was my husband. I looked into every book that was available to me and from there I am saying that it is due to nutritional deficiency. Won't you agree as a doctor that every ailment happens due to nutritional deficiencies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2009 Report Share Posted April 29, 2009 Yes there are different types of Ayurvedic practitioner. Yes this seems a rather allopathic approach. There are different realities of health care in different countries. In India one studies 5-6 years to become a practitioner who can do virtually anything - make diagnosis for all conditions, practise obstetrics and gynaecology, perform surgery, treat severe infectious diseases. They study to become frontline physicians. The thousands of patients they see often do not have the luxury of exploring diet and lifestyle changes. They need results - and fast. Their family livelihoods depend on their health. Yes, it can be a symptomatic, allopathic approach - with the potential for a more holistic approach given the time and resources. In the " West " Ayurvedic practitioners study from 6 months to 3 years. They are often approached by people who have tried the medical system, who already have a diagnosis in hand (correct or otherwise). In the west there is a stronger perception of stress and its impact on health, and there is probably a greater exposure to various diets for health. In the west, people don't go to Ayurvedic practitioners if they have a heart attack, stroke, STD or cancer - they get medical attention first. They mainly go to an ayurvedic if they have a chronic illness or want a good health maintenance plan. Most of my clients (here in Auckland, New Zealand) are 45+ women who realise they are getting older, who have established a financial base, and who want good health through their mature years. They have more time and money to explore health and wellbeing. Ayurveda - and Yoga - can offer a lot to these people; yet I believe it is in a form that is substantially different from that actually practised in India. It is this different reality that divides Indian and western ayurvedic practitioners; and it becomes so obvious in the discussions on this forum. Indian practitioners talk about treating patients with powerful medicines; and western practitioners discuss the doshic infuences of various foods. It must be also realised that much of ayurvedic understanding in the west, and especially in the US, originates from a few individuals who have spread Ayurveda to these places. Just about every " authority " in the US studied under Dr.Vasant Lad, so they pretty much reflect his approach. Likewise for Yoga and people like Iyengar, Pattabhi Jois, Bikram, etc. This encourages points of view that can exclude a broader approach and understanding. Part of my work involves getting Ayurveda (and other natural modalities) integrated into the mainstream health services in the west. In the meantime I am liaising with education providers that are developing Bachelors programmes in Ayurveda, here in New Zealand. As western governments open up to including Ayurveda in hospitals etc, and as western ayurvedic practitioners further their training to higher levels, there will come a time when we also will be on the frontline. Perhaps by then, our approach to Ayurveda will change as the patient base changes. In the end, health care is driven by needs, and by what works. If a homeopathic approach works - good. If an ayurvedic approach works - good. I have heard of a practitioner in India who sees hundreds of patients every day with excellent results - and he gives everyone Triphala! Go figure! Regards, Gerald www.ScienceOfLife.co.nz <http://scienceoflife.co.nz> > There must be very different types of Ayurvedic practitioner, for this does > seem to be a very casual and therefore rather allopathic approach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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