Guest guest Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 My daughter had 3 irregular periods at age 12. She is going to be 16 in May and has not had a period since April of 2006. The endo has done all sorts of tests...they can't find a reason. A delay can cause cancer....is there anything to make her start her period? They tried Provera and Premerin for one month.... I don't want her on the hormones they recommend.... Thanks Kim PS she has been a vegetarian for almost 5 years....we eat fish but no other meats....could it be from not eating balanced? __________________ The menstrual period is a normal phenomenon . It should not be disturbed from the normal cycle by pre-poning or post-poning it . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 > Is there a diabetes history in siblings, parents or grand parents >from both (maternal and paternal side)? Or similar premature ovarian >failure at age less than 35? > No one in the family has diabetes. No premature ovarian failure...Her tests were all normal , no PCOS, normal ultrasound with a follicle and another smaller one 6 weeks later when they redid the ultrasound... I have been concerned and all the doctors said not to worry until she was 16. Thanks for any help..Thanks for any help! Kim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 Nearly three years period holiday is too long to tackle. Classical formulation described in post: ayurveda/message/1114 The medicine described here is not available commercially, and needs to be made by a vaidya to specific requirement. It has been seen to be effective for 8-12 months of holiday. The massage on certain marma points was successful for two cases where the holiday of 15 months was observed. The disorder has been called premature ovarian failure and strong HRT has sometimes caused few periods to appear but it soon becomes ineffective. Is there a diabetes history in siblings, parents or grand parents from both (maternal and paternal side)? Or similar premature ovarian failure at age less than 35? Please : ayurveda/fil\ es/articles/Dr.%20BhateFiles/ and access file " Early diagnosis of Pre-diabetic or PCOS.doc " Check for skin patches shown in the photo album also. Dr Bhate ___________ My daughter had 3 irregular periods at age 12. She is going to be 16 in May and has not had a period since April of 2006. The endo has done all sorts of tests...they can't find a reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 Eat lots of beets everyday. GB ___________ My daughter had 3 irregular periods at age 12. She is going to be 16 in May and has not had a period since April of 2006. The endo has done all sorts of tests...they can't find a reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 I was not repling to it because what i know is a very small thing. Take cow's ghee in a heavy bottom frying pan, put about two spoons or more of grated jaggery in it. put off the heat when the jaggery melts and add one teaspoon sonth (dry ginger powder) mix well then add a tea spoon of ajwain. Let her have this twice a day. Please do let me know if this works. ____________________ My daughter is going through the same thing, and they found that she has large amounts of the male hormone testosterone in her system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 If all tests your daughter has done are normal, just LET HER BE !. Don't ruin her health with hormones or birth control pills or any other medication. I am a doctor and I have seen many girls like this, being perfectly normal. If she is vegetarian, this may be the cause of a PERFECTLY NORMAL sublimation of the menses. Read this link or better try to find the book of dr Raymond Bernard " Physiological Enigma of a Woman " http://books.google.ro/books?id=a82UXcSRzMsC & dq=Physiological+Enygma+of+a+woman & \ printsec=frontcover & source=bl & ots=nIYgm3Nh0O & sig=gKWKM963f6h_Zj6QxMw43tU1Q1A & hl=\ ro & sa=X & oi=book_result & resnum=1 & ct=result and you will understand more about it. Don't worry and don't put any pressure on your daughter suggesting that it might be something wrong with her, if all tests are normal Wishing you all the best Andreea ______________ My daughter had 3 irregular periods at age 12. She is going to be 16 in May and has not had a period since April of 2006. The endo has done all sorts of tests...they can't find a reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 Modern science tests often come to a blind end. All tests, hormones normal does not mean that everything is OK. A Dr. looks at only hormones. If a woman is not menatlly ready to conceive out of fear of added responsibility, no conception even if hormones within normal range! A woman can conceive without menstruating, even in menopausal years![Weed, Susun S. Menopausal Years. Ash Tree Publishing. Woodstock, NY: 1992. 39] How mental forces, astral forces shape the emotional and body rhythms still remains a mystery to science, despite number of studies by researchers. Due to the matter in the brain at birth, the difference between man and woman is far greater, and woman is the victim of her hormonal rhythms as shaped by external forces, as expressed at: ayurveda/message/4622 But the ideas expressed by dr Raymond Bernard do have substance, somewhat similar ideas, but not taking the extreme view as he takes are expressed at: ayurveda/message/9777 ________ Read this link or better try to find the book of dr Raymond Bernard > " Physiological Enigma of a Woman " > http://books.google.ro/books?\ id=a82UXcSRzMsC & dq=Physiological+Enygma+of+a+woman & printsec=fro\ ntcover & source=bl & ots=nIYgm3Nh0O & sig=gKWKM963f6h_Zj6Qx\ Mw43tU1Q1A & hl=ro & sa=X & oi=book_result & resnum=1 & ct=result .... don't put any pressure on your daughter suggesting that it might be something wrong with her, if all tests are normal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 Hari Om ! Store, in a glass bottle ( though earthen pot is better), coriander (dhania) decoction made by boiling 8-tablespoon dry seed powder in sixteen cup water........ Boil it & reduce the quantity by 1/4 ( i.e. 4 cup decoction remains) for two days untouched (sugar may be added to improve its taste). Now from the third day onward, take one cup decoction, first thing in the morning, for four days regularly in a month. This process must be repeated for a few months i.e. minimum four months (on the same dates), you may find the rays of hope. If possible, intake of fresh coriander-leaves with veg. & pulse is beneficial. With best wishes, Swami Brahmavidyananda Saraswati, A Hindu Monk/Sannyasi from India _______________ My daughter had 3 irregular periods at age 12. She is going to be 16 in May and has not had a period since April of 2006. The endo has done all sorts of tests...they can't find a reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 Dear Mr Bate, I am far from looking at hormones only, as you suggest. I have read carefully all posts about the case of teenage girl and from her mother s words she seems to be a normal healthy vegetarian girl ( by the way, vegetarian diet, if it is a complete diet, is perfect for a teenager), whose only " problem " seems to be lack of menses. I have seen cases of women who have menses every 4 or every 6 or every 12 months and they are perfectly healthy happy mothers with normal hormone tests but on the other hand I have seen women those were also healthy while teenagers and because they did not have menses every month they were given hormonal treatment which ruined their health forever... My only idea is that there are many cases when lack of menses every month can be perfectly normal if all the other health indicators are normal (including hormones) and besides putting pressure on a child in such a delicate psychological period is not beneficial With respect Andreea _____________ Modern science tests often come to a blind end. All tests, hormones normal does not mean that everything is OK. A Dr. looks at only hormones. If a woman is not menatlly ready to conceive out of fear of added responsibility, no conception even if hormones within normal range! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 i do not at all think that in general hormonal treatment should be takne. If we are herbalists why would we put chemically created or animal homrones into our bodies? Ashoka is very helpful in bringing on the cycle. Dhanurasana is very useful for toning the female system. Shatavri and triphala taken regularily would be useful as well. Downward massage from neck to tailbone with warm sesame oil is useufl. The meridian for the ovaries in the neck may be also blocked. Find out if the girl in question has any kind of neck pain. ____________________ I am far from looking at hormones only, as you suggest. I have read carefully all posts about the case of teenage girl and from her mother s words she seems to be a normal healthy vegetarian girl ( by the way, vegetarian diet, if it is a complete diet, is perfect for a teenager), whose only " problem " seems to be lack of menses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 What is ajwain? What will this do for her? Bonnie ____________ put off the heat when the jaggery melts and add one teaspoon sonth (dry ginger powder) mix well then add a tea spoon of ajwain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 Vidhyasagarji, Hari Om ! It's true, 'Kumariasava' contains iron and aloe juice with a few trace-elements, too......... it may help, somehow ( though, I am not sure ? ), but more than a dozen teenage -girls have been benefitted with coriander-decoction. Secondly it's very easy ( & easily available coriander......... harmless, too) to prepare. Lastly, when parents come to Ashram and ask me to suggest a few home remedies to bring on periods in teenager, I suggest this home-remedy only. After feed-back, It has been reported as result-oriented in 90%-cases. With best wishes, Swami Brahmavidyananda Saraswati, A Hindu Sannyasi from Uttarakhand, India ______________ I appreciate swamis good will kumariasava contains iron and aloe juice Is it not best for this problem. both are safe nutrient items. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 > Now from the third day onward, take one cup > decoction, first thing in the morning, for four days regularly in a > month. This process must be repeated for a few months i.e. minimum four > months (on the same dates), you may find the rays of hope. Based on built-in natural rhythms in the body, if you choose the first day of taking the decoction as your birth tithi (lunar phase at birth), the effectiveness may increase. Moon has intimate connection with bio- rhythms in women! In every lunar month, when the phase of the moon coincides with the phase at which she was born, the chances of menstruation/conception peak. While Indian acharyas recognized the role of moon in the process of conception, now western researchers also believe it, e.g. see Lunaception: A Feminine Odyssey into Fertility and Contraception by Louise Lacey. And south indians make a special chart based on date and time of first appearnce of menses! Dr Bhate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 Pearl is a moon stone. It is supposed to improve the woman's reproductive organs. Will wearing a pearl in the body help? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 I know that coriander is given for progestrone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 Ajwain is bishop's seeds they have hot properties and I know that these three things are given for scanty periods and also after delivery to clear out any trace of unwanted stuff in the uterus. _____________ What is ajwain? What will this do for her? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 > Pearl is a moon stone. It is supposed to improve the woman's > reproductive organs. Will wearing a pearl in the body help? Ancients knew these connections well. The marma points scattered all over the body. Wearing metal rings such as silver, copper, gold at these places attracts astral energy and keeps corresponding organs in good shape. While ayurveda is more concerned with physical body, astrology is more concerned with emotional or astral body. Its connection to moon is clearly brought out in texts on ayurvedic astrology. Connection of sun in the chart with causal body in reveals how astrology views human body-mind-spirit complex in equilibrium with whole of universe. The silver rings in the big toe helps keep volume of bleeding under control. Tying black thread here is supposed to increase/start it according to recent post at the list. Accupuncturist fix a grain with adhesive tape at these points to reduce PMS symptoms, making menses easy. The silver chain in the feet (Payal in Hindi) is tied at the reflexology points corresponding to uterus/ovaries. A heavy silver chain near waist is very popular in Rajastan, a state where 80% of Indias Gold is stashed. Gold bangles in the hand also snuggle against the points corresponding to reproductive organs defined by reflexology. And the diamond in the nose and in the ear lobe is supposed to keep the fertility at peak. Notice where ear is pierced. If one looks at the corresponding accupressure charts, you will see that the centre of earlobe where gold ring is inserted, corresponds to the pituitary, the master gland which governs all glands indirectly. The oriental holistic sciences have much harmony amongst them. Discovering these harmonies gives respects for all ancient monks. Connecting plants/gems etc to planets and diseases through verses is a great contribution to human welfare. The pearl bhasma/silver is used to bring down pitta/heat quickly. Pearl as well as silver is connected to moon in astrology, the pearl in silver ring worn in little finger (pinky) is what is recommended to calm down the mind, heavy bleeding etc. Moon, connected with water principle and mind, governs the menses also, since their high and low tides are connected with phases of the moon, moon itself governing fluidity of rasa and rakta dhatu. Hope this satisfies the querry. Dr Bhate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.