Guest guest Posted December 1, 2008 Report Share Posted December 1, 2008 Hello Everyone: I was wondering if anyone has found or used a totally herbal antibiotic that worked for acute infections. I recall Dr. Bhate mentioning once that he uses a certain herbal formula as an antibiotic, though the patient needs to be monitored depending on the severity of the infection and potential " side-effects " (?) from this antibiotic. Dr. Bhate, would you like to share your thoughts? Regards, Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 Matt ji namaskar, Combination of Nimbadi churna, and Suddha gandhaka works like an antibiotic. DR M.L.Maurya www.rishikeshayurveda.com __________________ I was wondering if anyone has found or used a totally herbal antibiotic that worked for acute infections. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 Using a herb as an " anti-biotic " seems to me to go against the whole concept of ayurveda - specific areas of infection have specific significance and also need to be treated as part of the whole - at least in homeopathy I would view it that way - a patient recently had a chronic low grade infection start to move and immediately ran to her doctor for anti-biotics thereby stopping the body's own effort to remove the deep seated cause of many problems, the body needs to be seen as a whole organism and requires strengthening to eliminate its problems in as natural and gentle a way as possible. But on the other hand perhaps ayurvedic remedies of this nature still allow the body to do this? Jane ________________ I was wondering if anyone has found or used a totally herbal antibiotic that worked for acute infections. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 Dear Jane I will add some thoughts for Infection control. In Ayurevda for the treatment of Krumi [ worms] the first line of treatment is given as Prakruti vinash. That mean the environment at which Krumi [ worms] generates and grows [ Prakruti means suitable environment for Krumi i.e. worms] should be destroyed. This principal could be applied for the treatment of infection of any nature. If we succeed is developing particular Ayurvedic preparation which will destroy particular environment suitable to breed specific germs then there will be no need of antibiotics. Vaidya Upadhye http://www.astroayurvedalogy.com http://www.astrotreat.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Using a herb as an " anti-biotic " seems to me to go against the whole concept of ayurveda - specific areas of infection have specific significance and also need to be treated as part of the whole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 Jane you have raised an interesting point. In normal health the body is populated by trillions of bacteria, fungi, viruses, etc - some beneficial and some potentially disease-causing. I think I read somewhere that bacteria make up about 3 kg of our body weight! Many of us never get sick from these parasites (called krumi in ayurveda). For example, in some countries 40% of the population harbour the " deadly " meningococcal bacteria in their throats. Yet, very few people contract meningitis, and much less of those die from it. Louis Pasteur fought to champion the concept of bacteria as the cause of diseases. His opponents said it was the body's immune status that determined disease. Pasteur's effort won out, and the Germ Theory became the basis of modern medicine. Now medical doctors only treat the germs (with antibiotics), and not the body. Yet, on his deathbed, Pasteur is reputed to have said, " yes, it is the Territory (i.e. the body) that is most important. " When treating an infection, one must look at various factors. Sometimes the symptoms are life-endangering, and must be addressed first. For example, in a suspected meningitis case, I would immediately refer to emergency medical treatment with a cocktail of antibiotics, as septicaemia can kill within hours. In less severe acute and chronic infections, one could use antibiotic herbs such as neem, kalmegha, guduchi and others; while supporting the body's immune function with other herbs and treatments. Detoxification diet, herbs and therapies will assist in " eliminating " the parasites and toxic buildup, allowing the body to rejuvenate and rebuild its immune status (called ojas). Often in mild infections all that is needed is rest and a soup diet. The body does what it needs to do. Given the chance, the body heals itself, and sometimes even herbs are not needed. What is the " concept of ayurveda " that you mention? We need to be clear that comprehensive and holistic medicine addresses all cases in different ways, and is ready to use all tools available. The holistic practitioner uses his/her skills, knowledge and intuition to assess a person's state, to prioritise that person's needs, and to apply whatever is available - herbal, energetic, medical, homeopathic, etc - that the practitioner considers most efficacious. To answer your questions: 1. Yes there are herbal antibiotics which are quite effective. For more severe infections, they can be potentised with minerals, which can be a controversial aspect in the west. And, in the west anyway, I believe that life-threatening infections are best dealt with specific medical antibiotics - this is even recommended in ayurvedic texts such as Kayachikitsa by Ranade. 2. Yes ayurveda also treats the body, by strengthening digestion and metabolism (agni dipana), detoxification (pachana), and strengthening the immune system (rasayana). Best regards, Gerald NewZealand www.ScienceOfLife.co.nz <http://scienceoflife.co.nz> __________________ Using a herb as an " anti-biotic " seems to me to go against the whole concept of ayurveda - specific areas of infection have specific significance and.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 if u can eat , a small ball of grinded neem leaves and same quantity of turmeric - together in the empty stomach before u intake anything in the morning- as soon as u brush the teeth, it sufficiently help u to - even it will kill cancer producing cells - but this wont be effective after u got cancer- but as healthy practice and precaution it is best thing. in isha yoga centre it is daily practice u can see people taking this in the early morning ________________ In normal health the body is populated by trillions of bacteria, fungi, viruses, etc - some beneficial and some potentially disease-causing. I think I read somewhere that bacteria make up about 3 kg of our body weight! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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