Guest guest Posted November 27, 2008 Report Share Posted November 27, 2008 Hi All ! We would like to request comment on the following situation. A close friend has noticed a marble size swelling in the groin area, at the fold of the joint between the trunk of the body and the leg. Some months ago this same person had a large mole removed from the mid upper outside thigh. This same mole was removed using a special black paste which has a long history of success in removing even malignant moles. The paste attacks a malignancy and ends up completely removing the mole and roots over a period of about 20 days. The hole that is left heals perfectly. This person had a mole removed from the back in a similar way around 7 years ago with complete success. The doctor attending was not able to give a definite opinion of whether the mole, in either case, was malignant. Our issue at the moment is how to proceed. We believe that the western practice of biopsy is harmful, however this issue is looking like something not wise to ignore. We hope that some of you with long practical experience of this type of condition might care to comment. We believe that our friend needs help with some important decisionmaking and we lack the experience in the physical aspects of Ayurveda to comment. Our friend is 100% vegan for the past 10 years and lives a very active lifestyle. He has suffered some relationship stress over the past 2 years. We value very much being part of this group and the wisdom it presents Best regards Prema Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2008 Report Share Posted November 28, 2008 Skin tags, moles, swellings are provided by body to assist Vaidya in diagnosis. Author would suggest you to go through an ayurvedic perspective on swellings at: ayurveda/message/3542 The pulse is a good indicator of malignancy, and expert vaidyas have treated such conditions without any allopathic intervention. The pulse diagnosis introduction is given in ayurveda/message/14430 And today, pulse diagnosis is being effectively used to treat caancers at a speciallized hospital. Please visit the link: ayurveda/message/13409 For his continued interest, author would like to ask what was the color of the mole removed in the viscinity of the present swelling? The location of the swelling described by you is very close to a marma point in the centre of line joining trunk and the thigh. This point represents lymph node. Swelling indicates that the lymph system is overactive there. But that does not mean it is malignant. The swelling needs to be checked for texture, color, motility, inflamation if pressed, and needs to be correlated with pulse to confirm whether it is malignant. Does it cause pain if pressed? With proper diagnosis, vaidya can suggest ayurvedic medicine to remove it, even if it is growing fast. Some home remedies can be suggested but please meet an ayurveda practitioner in neighbourhood. If you can define your location, author can suggest possible name. You may also search " Contact List " stored in Database on ayurveda group website. Dr Bhate ______________________ A close friend has noticed a marble size swelling in the groin area, at the fold of the joint between the trunk of the body and the leg. Some months ago this same person had a large mole removed from the mid upper outside thigh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2008 Report Share Posted November 29, 2008 Dear Dr Bhate ! We are grateful for your full response and feel guided by it. Some more information: o Since our original post we have examined personally the area There are two lumps, one 15.03mm and 7.1 mm in diameter o The mole which has been removed was deep brown color with black patches and a raised irregular surface. The edges were not very symmetrical o We are located in New Zealand o There is no pain when the lumps are pressed but they are noticeable with movement o They are non mobile -- they do not move when the tissue is moved o The lumps were discovered 1 week ago o There has been no change in size over an observation period of the last 4 days o When pressed the skin above the bump tends to go pale, however there is no sign on the skin whatsoever We again welcome any comments with a deep appreciation of the work which is being done in this group. We're taking the liberty of posting two photos to our Piccasa Album in the hope of clarifying the situation. http://picasaweb.google.com/premaayurveda/Prema?authkey=9mQS3UawhX0# We're digesting the posts shared, and are very grateful that the author has chosen to share this information which is quite precious Best Regards Prema ayurveda , " Shirish Bhate " <shirishbhate wrote: > > Skin tags, moles, swellings are provided by body to assist Vaidya > in diagnosis. Author would suggest ...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2008 Report Share Posted November 29, 2008 Thanks for the information and photos. There is one vaidya in Auckland, New Zealand, who posted message 14075. His review of two books on ayurveda can be read at http://www.amazon.com/gp/pdp/profile/A2S3KMYEK3W5VX He has not included his name (Gerald Lopez) in " contact list " available in database of our group website, nor he encourages emails from group members. Hence author is unable to provide his emailid to you. If he reads this message and contacts you then you are lucky. Your info gives the impression that at present two lumps are just fibrous lumps, not malignant. The pattern of small moles on the skin in the pelvic area, however, indicates the chances of their becoming malignant exist, in near future. Very effective panchgavya medicines take care of such lumps, irrespective of their being benign or not. Unfortunately these are difficult to export. Please visit Gerald Lopez if you can locate him through directory search. Dr Bhate _________________________________ o Since our original post we have examined personally the area There are two lumps, one 15.03mm and 7.1 mm in diameter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2008 Report Share Posted December 1, 2008 Dear Prema and all other readers, Thank you for your posts, Prema, and thank you Shirish for your recommendation. I strongly suggest to all readers who have moles that have changed size, shape or colour; and who have discovered lumps or nodules, to seek qualified attention immediately. While it is tempting to treat such skin lesions with creams or other applications, these lesions may be symptoms of a rapidly-developing systemic problem. Further investigation is advised. Please feel free to contact me at <ayurvedic(at symbol)ihug.co.nz> or contact me through my website http://ScienceOfLife.co.nz <http://scienceoflife.co.nz> Best regards, Gerald Lopez Auckland New Zealand. __________________________ o Since our original post we have examined personally the area There are two lumps, one 15.03mm and 7.1 mm in diameter o The mole which has been removed was deep brown color with black patches and a raised irregular surface. The edges were not very symmetrical Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2008 Report Share Posted December 1, 2008 hello your friend needs to increase her immunity i strogly recommand her to visit an experienced ayurveda doctor, in order to make a complete diagosys of her state (which, as you might know, referes to much more than the problem you have mentioned, going to the spiritual roots of this problem that keeps repeting). meanwhile she should use food and plants with high ammouts of vitamin A,C,D,E and alkaline diet. maybe a combination of chitraka and kapitha might be usefull in removing the deep AMA in her body, if they are fit for her type / prakriti. also pancha karma. and lots of warm fluids, to improove the circulation of body fluids and energies. there are many recommendations for her, but it is not possile without a direct contact for proper diagnosis. which brings us back to the first one: a visit to an ayurvedic doctor ______________________ A close friend has noticed a marble size swelling in the groin area, at the fold of the joint between the trunk of the body and the leg. Some months ago this same person had a large mole removed from the mid upper outside thigh. ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2008 Report Share Posted December 1, 2008 Dear Criii, Thanks very much for your note. We are in connection to a Vaidya in Auckland New Zealand, Dr Karnik. We will post progress to the group We very much appreciate your response Kind regards Prema _________________ i strogly recommand her to visit an experienced ayurveda doctor, in order to make a complete diagosys of her state (which, as you .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2008 Report Share Posted December 1, 2008 Dear Dr Bhate! Thanks again for your comments and recommendations. We are in contact with Dr Karnik in Auckland New Zealand, and will notify progress to the group. We will visit Dr Karnik with our friend in the next day or so. We very much value your input to the group and wonder if you might be willing for us to post some of your notes to a website to make them more generally available? Please let us know if you would like to discuss this or any other initiative to use the net to make Ayurveda a little better known Anyway, thanks again and we will keep you posted on progress Kind regards Prema ______________ There is one vaidya in Auckland, New Zealand, who posted message 14075. His review of two books on ayurveda can be read at http://www.amazon.com/gp/pdp/profile/A2S3KMYEK3W5VX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2009 Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 Dear Dr Bhate and others. You kindly helped with comments relating to an issue our friend was having with a swelling in the groin region. At the time we indicated that we would feed back outcomes as they became known. We followed advice and sought comment from a local Vaidya. We received and acted on recommendations of diet and exercise, and also matters of mindset which we agreed could well have influence. Following the recommended period we noticed very slight increase in size of both lumps. Since then we have recommended reduction in protein (acid forming) foods such as beans and nuts, and noticed a slight improvement in terms of size. The patient is robustly well and in good spirits. This post is intended as information and progress report but of course any comments are very welcome and appreciated. Kind regards Prema _________________ ayurveda/message/14792 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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