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According to " Between Heaven and earth a Guide to " the idea

is an effort at grafting a Western psychospiritual branch onto the trunk of

traditional Chinese medical thought. The book goes into great detail on the

subject and I would think it would identify its origin if it could in the

classics.

 

Laurie

 

 

 

 

Thursday, February 10, 2005 7:35 AM

 

Digest Number 2308

 

 

 

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" mike Bowser " <naturaldoc1

RE: Personality Types

 

One might consider the signs of the Chinese zodiac which does say for

example wood dragon or fire horse, etc and mentions whether it is a yin or

yang year. The year also tends to exhibit characteristics for people born

under its sign. Consitution and Chinese astrology tend to share a

commonality as does all of Chinese culture. Later

Mike W. Bowser, L Ac

 

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>IS there any validation for those 5 element personality types in the

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>Literature that people know of? For example, a metal yin or water yang

>personality profile etc. I have seen that Helm (teaching for MD's) and

>Jeremy Ross both use these or similar type profiling. I am just wondering

>where it comes from besides Europe? Any comments?

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Opinions vs facts:

 

 

I studied Ayurveda for 3 years from a 3rd generation vaidya from Kerala ( Name

with held on purpose ). He is a Gold medalist from Ayurveda schools, in Kerala,

did a post graduate course in Ayurveda, and was among the first people to do an

equivalent of a Post graduate MD in Complementary medicine. He was also among

the first such Vaidyas to come to the States to give talks on Ayurveda with

complete knowledge of both the systems. His family makes their own Churnas with

utmost care.

 

It is true that there is no treatment for Rheumatoid disorders in Modern

Medicine, and my own niece has it. I am neither pro or against any system, since

I have studied both the  systems myself, and I want her " cured " . My own father

was a Homeopath, and I do not have any such biases, as to which system is

" better " , etc.... We were raised on Homeopathic medicines for coughs, colds,

fevers, childhood diarrheas, and minor aches, etc......in short, all childhood

disorders.

 

I referred my niece to this Vaidya. After 2 years, the patient became worse in

her pain, although she followed his regimen to a " T " , and when her fever became

worse, she gave up on Ayurveda. Two years is not a short period. This was also a

patient who wanted to get better, not judge one or the other system, and besides

Steroids, there was nothing she could take in " Modern medicine " .

 

So, regardless of our " opinion " , the facts do not speak to what Jane " feels " .

The jury is still out on many difficult diseases, where neither system has a

" cure " . We can claim that we " treat " this or the other disease, however, only

when we " cure " a symtom like pain, or a disease like ( pick a name ), can we

call that treatment as " curative " . We have not reached that State to fully cure

Inflammatory bowel disease, Rheumatoid arthritis, various cancers, AIDS, or

various other diseases, that are appropriately labelled even by Ayurveda as

" difficult to cure " . Dr Muzumdar may want to correct my " opinion " , if I am

wrong.

 

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Durgesh Mankikar,MD   

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my dear durgesh

 

like a reformer of ages past you arrive at the temple to upset our

tables full of wares and kick us out

and so we leave, hanging our heads in shame, but wonder that in your

wrath if you might have forgot to press " delete "

 

when someone wrote in with an experience of a " paradoxical " reaction

to Ashwagandha, i provided an answer based on both the energetics of

Ashwagandha, discussed the link between Ashwagandha's traditional use

for insomnia and its GABAnergic properties, and how such herbs could

be responsible for paradoxical reactions in conditions line ADD/HD

 

the only apparent reason that there is still a debate is because i am

in someone's cross-hairs, and as such there is no possibility of a

peaceful resolution

perhaps someone else can ask this merciless hunter " what's up doc? " ,

and i will take a break from the looney tunes here on

ayurveda... ;-)

Caldecott

todd

www.toddcaldecott.com

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I also agree with Dr Muzumdar that you do have a tendency to show

that only you are a critical thinker. You do have a fund of

knowledge, which is valuable, but you are wasting it in unnecessary

arguments. Why not let the intelligent reader of this list-serve

judge the validity of the information, and sift through all

different " angles " and judge for oneself what is really helpful ?

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