Guest guest Posted June 19, 2008 Report Share Posted June 19, 2008 Hi everyone, i have been thinking a lot about this issue of patient accessibility to alternative medicine. it most recently has been sparked by my involvement with a fairly new group going under the name of Community Acupuncture Network. Essentially the premise of this group is to make health care(in this case acupuncture) affordable so that patients who have little or no disposable income are able to be treated, as well as being able to bypass the nightmare that is our health care system(in the U.S.) as a whole for the practitioner by not dealing with insurance companies what so ever. This isnt just about charity either, it is also about opening up a market of the population that is much much too under served and finding ways to actually make it financially as a full time acupuncturist rather than part time or unemployed, which happens far more often than many of us would like to think. In my mind it is quite a radical idea and takes this medicine to a whole new level in what can be done with it and who we can offer it to. Treatments are given generally on a sliding scale of $15-40 with no proof of income required, and treatments are given in one large room using recliners rather than individualized rooms and individualized time slots. This is how the difference in income of treating one patient an hour for $50-75 is balanced out. This also allows the patient to come in more frequently, which brings greater results and deeper healing. It also closely reflects how clinic in china are set up. Patients there often come in multiple times per week for treatment until their issue is resolved, where as in the u.s. once per week or even once per month is very common and can often offer little results or take much longer to achieve the wanted results. It works so well with acupuncture mainly because the cost of giving a treatment is so minimal, a box of one hundred needles runs about $15 or so and takes much less physical strain on the practitioner as well as time as do some of the more time and labor intensive treatments of other modalities. It has its ups and downs, as does everything, but i still feel very deeply that it will change the health care scene as we know it for the better. There is a website: communityacupuncturenetwork.org that i encourage anyone interested in health care accessibility to check out. my question though is how can we do something similar with ayurveda? I'm very interested in bringning ayurverda more in to the mainstream by offering it as a method of health care, and lessening its image as a pampering at the spa, only available to those who can afford the sometimes outrageous prices.i honestly wouldn't be able to even afford my own prices. i think this is good both for us as practitioners as well as for the general population. however, being that many pancha karma treatments and dietary/lifestyle counseling takes a good deal of personal time and effort as well as cost with oils and herbs, is it somehow possible to bridge this idea with our medicine? I wonder as well how ayurvedic treatments in india with populations that don't have large excess or even any excess income are treated? are they only expected to pay for their medicines? does a vaidya collect donations from others beforehand and then use that as his payment to cover others with no money? How has ayurveda been traditionally used over the ceturies? I remember the ayurveda art of being movie, and seeing the doctor who was treating in a clinic with a never ending line of villagers waiting to see him and he only had a donation box for after a patient visit. not only was i completely inspired, but i wondered how he was able to make this work.these are still rather new ideas floating around in my head, i would be very grateful for any input on this subject. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 Hello, Thank you for this post as I am a grateful patient of the Community Acupuncture Network close to where I live in Portland, OR. It is a fantastic and easy to use system and it delivers health care! Yes, I had to drop out of the Ayurvedic care I was getting here in Oregon and in California and was left without any health care at all so I am extremely grateful for this system. And I do remember that scene from the Ayurveda movie and wondered how that worked. Feel free to contact me personally as I am very interested in getting health care to those in need and see how beautifully this concept works! And in case you are interested, I had a friend take the mission statement for Community Acupuncture Network up to Amma, the Hugging Saint to get it blessed and I took the mission statement of my acupuncturist up for blessings too. It is a shame that in the US, health care is in shambles with so many without access to care at all. I haven¢t had health insurance for about five years now and am a cancer survivor and have had other issues too. I keep learning from this group and applying what seems to fit and that is how I am managing. Thank you and blessings! ________ i have been thinking a lot about this issue of patient accessibility to alternative medicine. it most recently has been sparked by my involvement with a fairly new group going under the name of Community Acupuncture Network. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2008 Report Share Posted June 25, 2008 Dear Josh, Good to read through your post. There's a big need to propagate Ayurvedic theories and treatments to people in this world. And here are some suggestions : a) I believe its false that Ayurveda should be cheap. Just because its an alternative form of medicine, should not mean that it should come cheap. In India, Chyawanprash sells for Rs. 150 a kg in the retail market. However, if we produce the same stuff authentically using exactly the same methods as defined in the scriptures, the same would cost more than Rs. 600. So, right now - nobody is producing products the way they should be. b) One of the best ways to promote Ayurveda and the simplest way to tell people about it - is to make them find out their Dosha. Make them aware of their Dosha types, their body humors - Vata, Pitta and Kapha. If they know what Dosha type they have, they would be encouraged to read more about it and find remedies to balance Dosha. c) More books in Hindi or Sanskrit about Ayurveda, need to be translated to English or other languages, or published on the web. Regards, Puneet Aggarwal www.herbscancure.com/blog/ www.friendfeed.com/herbalist _________________ >I'm very interested in bringning ayurverda more in to the mainstream >by offering it as a method of health care, and lessening its image as >a pampering at the spa, only available to those who can afford the >sometimes outrageous prices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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