Guest guest Posted April 7, 2001 Report Share Posted April 7, 2001 My understanding is theres a lot of difference between cows and goats milk. Its cows milk the problems arise from, because it is meant for a baby calf which is so much bigger than a baby human. Wheras a baby goat is much closer to baby human size. (theres more to this but I cant remember it all- the size of the fat and protein particles is different) I supplemented my first child, along with breast milk, with raw goats milk, while I was pregnant and then breastfeeding my second child (they were 17 months apart). I wouldnt have dreamt of giving her cows milk. She has no known allergies, and I find now that when my husband gives either of my kids cows milk now and then, its no problem because they didnt set up that allergic pattern by having it when their digestive systems were immature. They unfortunately dont like goats milk now, (I do though), so I give them soy mostly. We can get GM free and biodynamic stuff easily here in Australia. But I didnt give them that until they were a few years old either. I think goats and sheep milk is the closest to human you can practically get, and if it can be tolerated it is a nutritious food, although I dont think its necessary. Cows milk is not evil, cows are beautiful creatures with a lovely peaceful energy which must come through their milk, I think- unfortunately, it is rather adulterated by the time it reaches us. love Peela Get email at your own domain with Mail. http://personal.mail./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2001 Report Share Posted April 8, 2001 Please read about the mineral blocking of Soy products before choosing to continue using them. This site is very helpful. CONCERNS REGARDING SOYBEANS http://www.rheumatic.org/soy.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2002 Report Share Posted February 18, 2002 OK.For you I should have said " commercially available milk " . Ron _____________ Get the FREE email that has everyone talking at http://www.mail2world.com <> > > Ramit > 2/18/2002 10:08:14 AM > Gettingwell > Milk > >Mary Enig and Sally Fallon two well qualified researchers who write > > >against soy also believe cows milk to be poison. ... > > > > Sally Fallon does NOT find cow's milk to be poison. Her cookbook is FULL of > > dairy recipes. Instead, she advocates for raw milk- non-pasteurized, > > non-homogenized, so that the enzymes and heat-sensitive goodies that come > > with are not destroyed. > > > > Ramit > > _______ > > > > > > Get your free @ address at > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2006 Report Share Posted March 19, 2006 In a message dated 2/23/2006 2:48:14 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, herbal remedies writes: I just want to reiterate that there is a huge differance between the overprocessed garbage they sell in the store and raw real milk. All the studiesand tests that they talk about are all done on the homoginized pasturizedstuff. It is not the same as raw milk, and raw milk is much better for you. Please understand this. Yes, this seems to be true from talking w/people who can't tolerate regular milk but have no problem w/ raw milk. ~Susan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2007 Report Share Posted April 19, 2007 Dear Nancy, You are always welcome to call my office and chat with Joy, Valorie or myself (catch as catch can ;-) LOL Try getting your hands on Organic Raw Goat's Milk. It's better for you and your kids anyway. Where cow's milk is Acid Ash, Goat's Milk is Alkaline and far better for you. Unless you can find a local source of Raw Organic Cow's Milk, I'd stay away from it if I were you. Yours in Knowledge, Health and Freedom, Doc PS. I don't mind taking full responsibility for your empty print cartridges as long as the health of you and your family is improving daily LOL Love, Doc Doc Shillington727-447-5282Doc - DocShillington Thursday, April 19, 2007 9:29 AM Milk HiI'm wondering about your opinion about organic milk. I can't find any that is not pasteurized. I get some that is made near where I live and they say they vat pasteurize (I think that's what it said) and is not homogenized. They put it in a glass bottle (which makes me like them even more as I see so many organic milks in plastic jugs ... duh). It comes whole, 2% and skim. I've read in other places (like www.mercola.com) that milk is very bad for you, but he sometimes talks about raw milk only. Is this milk I get OK to drink or do I want to just not have any? They also have great beef, eggs, chickens and cheese. I like that it's all their own and done locally.I love the golden bits of knowledge you send us - thanks so much! You are the reason my printer cartridge empties so quickly (oh, well it's at work anyway!)Also, can I send you a list of supplements I take and you let me know on which ones I'm wasting money and which ones I should continue to take (and ones I might want to start getting)?Nancy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2007 Report Share Posted April 21, 2007 Thanks Kim, and I'm passing this on as you suggest. Great help!!! Much love, Doc Doc Shillington727-447-5282Doc - Dr. Ian Shillington Thursday, April 19, 2007 3:42 PM Re: Milk Doc, you may want to let people who ask this in the future know about this website http://www.realmilk.com/where.html. It has helped us tremendously, especially since raw milk sales in our state are illegal without licencing, and they have recently really cracked down on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2008 Report Share Posted May 5, 2008 Even though I understand that milk produced in the " West " is not beneficial as is milk from the Indian Cow - I am able to purchase unpasteurized milk and wonder how I can warm it without destroying the benefits. Is this possible? Are there any benefits to be gained from unpasteurised, organic milk from farms here? Best, Jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2008 Report Share Posted May 5, 2008 Are you buying unpasteurized or non-homogenated? or raw? Patti Garland Ayurvedic Chef Bliss Kitchen http://www.BlissKitchen.com (760) 238-6451 On May 4, 2008, at 5:55 PM, Jane MacRoss wrote: unpasteurised, organic milk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2008 Report Share Posted May 5, 2008 I'm buying raw milk Patti Jane > Are you buying unpasteurized or non-homogenated? or raw? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2008 Report Share Posted May 5, 2008 Jane, Yes, there are many benefits of raw milk if the cow is raised on grass (and not grain). I am finally finishing a document with references supporting the benefits of raw milk over pasteurized. I will post that very soon to the group. As for heating milk, it is best heated below 108 - which is evidently the temperature at which the enzymes start to be killed off. You may want to check out www.rawmilk.org <http://www.rawmilk.org/> for more info. Thanks! Lawren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2008 Report Share Posted May 5, 2008 Hi Jane - Some will have a problem with the below, but it is the honest - As an AyurDoula when coming into a mother's home to cook, we have to work sometimes with what is there or their budget will permit. So the below is also part of the big picture prelude to the wiser focused responses around organic, raw/cooked etc. It is such a major topic of discussion in the west, to save client/my time I've posted on the milk story from Ayurveda including re your question: http://sacredwindow.com/What-AboutMilkandRecipe The article is designed more around mothers after childbirth but with much general education. I'm inspired to add the below: Milk - even in short term the non-organic still has specific properties that can serve a client, gunas amongst the 20 and 3 gunas, yielding certain properties to good benefit when those properties are needed, ie calming, grounding, . Milk is cools to pacify pitta unless seasoned to sooth also vata, sweet to nourish pitta and vata, ground, calm soft not hard (P/V-) delicacy, relaxation, tenderness, love etc cloudy not clear (builds tissue, good for bone, fractures, kinda grounding that way (P/V-) smooth not rough (P/V-) oily not dry (V-)(esp if has the fat) also promotes serotonin, calcium, good cholesterol (if orgnic) Served warm, spiced etc it is vary calming and yields other properties undoubtedly forgotten. Of course this means milk is kapha increasing. Kapha is balanced among other influences we can put in milk by boiling the milk, not just warming it (see link above), pungent spices, and phlegm reducing honey. Contemporary western animal farming puts considerable tamasic guna into it of course, giving the milk a notable ama (toxin) producing influence. Yet for short term results sometimes it is worth using with the client if that is what they have, the results are better than not using. Organic/happy cows makes it very sattvic, whether from India, the US or anywhere else. Different feed will give different influences, different breeds, and different species have their qualities. Mare's milk is said to be sour and pitta increasing if I'm remembering correctly - to some extent even human milk can be this way on a pittagenic diet of the lactating mother. Use your Ayurvedic principles and you will know much, wherever you are! Best, Ysha Even though I understand that milk produced in the " West " is not beneficial as is milk from the Indian Cow - I am able to purchase unpasteurized milk and wonder how I can warm it without destroying the benefits. Is this possible? Are there any benefits to be gained from unpasteurised, organic milk from farms here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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