Guest guest Posted March 10, 2001 Report Share Posted March 10, 2001 sorry..............ALS stands for?? Heiko > Has anyone treated ALS? I am wondering what patterns people have seen. > Is this always a species of wei (atrophy) syndrome? What degree of > success have people had? > > -- > > Director > Chinese Herbal Medicine > > > > Chinese Herbal Medicine, a voluntary organization of licensed healthcare practitioners, matriculated students and postgraduate academics specializing in Chinese Herbal Medicine, provides a variety of professional services, including board approved online continuing education. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2001 Report Share Posted March 10, 2001 In a message dated 3/10/01 12:07:37 AM Pacific Standard Time, heiko writes: << sorry..............ALS stands for?? Heiko >> ALS is amyotrophic lateral sclerosis, also known as Lou Gehrig's disease. Hard to find in the dictionary, finally found under " sclerosis " in mine. Julie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2001 Report Share Posted March 10, 2001 Heiko- I copied and pasted this stuff from: http://www.lougehrigsdisease.net/als_what_is_als.htm ---- What is ALS? ALS is a fatal neuromuscular disease characterized by progressive muscle weakness resulting in paralysis. _______ What do the letters ALS stand for? ALS stands for Amyotrophic Lateral Sclerosis. Like many medical terms it comes from Greek words. A—without Myo—muscle Trophic—nourishment Lateral—side (of the spinal cord) Sclerosis—hardening or scarring _ When was ALS first discovered? ALS was first described in scientific literature in 1869 by the French neurologist Jean-Martin Charcot. ___ Are there are other names for ALS? ALS is commonly known in the US as Lou Gehrig’s Disease. In England it is known as MND, Motor Neurone Disease. The French refer to ALS as Maladie de Charcot. __ Is there a cure for ALS? There is no cure for ALS, but there is a great deal of promising research going on now. ____ How long do people with ALS live? 50% of ALS patients die within 18 months after diagnosis. Only 20% survive 5 years and 10% live longer than 10 years. Persons with ALS who go on a ventilator may live for many years. Improved treatment is allowing ALS patients to live longer than before. Back to Top ___ What are the symptoms of ALS? ALS symptoms may include tripping, stumbling and falling, loss of muscle control and strength in hands and arms, difficulty speaking, swallowing and/or breathing, chronic fatigue, and muscle twitching and/or cramping. ALS is characterized by both upper and lower motor neuron damage. Symptoms of upper motor neuron damage include stiffness (spasticity), muscle twitching (fasciculations), and muscle shaking (clonus). Symptoms of lower motor neuron damage include muscle weakness and muscle shrinking (atrophy). In "ALS: A Comprehensive Guide to Treatment", Dr Mitsumoto lists upper motor neuron signs as spasticity, hyperreflexia, and pathological reflexes (Babinski's sign - the one where they run an object from the heel to the big toe). Lower motor neuron signs are listed as muscle weakness, truncal muscle weakness, muscle atrophy, fasciculations, hyporeflexia, hypotonicity or flaccidity, and muscle cramps. Bulbar signs are listed as dysarthria (speech problems), dysphagia (swallowing problems), and sialorrhea (drooling). > Message: 8 > Sat, 10 Mar 2001 21:03:57 +1300 > Heiko Lade > Re: ALS > sorry..............ALS stands for?? > Heiko -Tom PCOM Webmail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2001 Report Share Posted March 10, 2001 Thanks Julie And I have never treated it.You sure do attract some challenging cases.Good luck. Heiko juliej8 wrote: > In a message dated 3/10/01 12:07:37 AM Pacific Standard Time, heiko > writes: > > << sorry..............ALS stands for?? > > Heiko > >> > > ALS is amyotrophic lateral sclerosis, also known as Lou Gehrig's disease. > Hard to find in the dictionary, finally found under " sclerosis " in mine. > > Julie > > > Chinese Herbal Medicine, a voluntary organization of licensed healthcare practitioners, matriculated students and postgraduate academics specializing in Chinese Herbal Medicine, provides a variety of professional services, including board approved online continuing education. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2001 Report Share Posted March 10, 2001 Tom Thanks for that. But now that you have said that its called motor neuron disease in the UK ( and a lot of people here in NZ still believe in the Queen) I know what you talking about . I have seen 2 cases . One fitted into a lung yin xu /qi xu pattern and seemed to be responding to treatment , however only slowing it down. The medicos decided to implant a tube in her to force more absorbtion of food and straight after the op went down hill virtually over night. Another case , male 50's fiited into a pattern of liver/kidney yin vacuity with ascendant liver yang and I based the treatment around using zhen gan xi feng tang and du huo ji shen tang . It certainly did slow down the rate of degeneration .He was very regular with treatment and was having PT at the same time. BUT the main point of importance was that when I went on holidays for 3 weeks he deterriorated severly.It was as if those 3 weeks w/o herbs just destoyed him . I couldn't make up the lost treatment.It was as if the disease itself attacks the yin. These days I would concider that a latent heat toxin needs to be addressed as well.The other interesting feature was that he could have huge amounts of shen di and shu di 30 and then 60 grams w/o any digestive disturbance. , if you end up treating ALS/MND keep us posted as to your experience. Heiko Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2001 Report Share Posted March 10, 2001 , " Julie Smith " <rockymtnacupt@h...> wrote: If you would like I will send her an > email and hopefully she will email you directly. Julie Yes,please. thank you very much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2001 Report Share Posted March 11, 2001 ALS apparently contributed to the death of Mao as well. " During his last years Mao suffered from pneumonia, congestive heart disease, swelling of the internal organs and amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (Lou Gehrig’s Disease). He died in 1976; his embalmed body was placed on public display. " from: http://www.allsands.com/History/People/maotsetung_wxm_gn.htm -- Al Stone L.Ac. <AlStone http://www.BeyondWellBeing.com Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional. Attachment: vcard [not shown] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2001 Report Share Posted March 11, 2001 ALS apparently contributed to the death of Mao as well.>>>I thought he had Parkinson's Alon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2001 Report Share Posted March 12, 2001 --- alonmarcus wrote: > ALS apparently contributed to the death of Mao as well. > > >>>I thought he had Parkinson's It is my understanding that he also had some sort of fatal STD and women were forced to have sex with him even though it was well known that he would pass the STD on to them? Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2001 Report Share Posted March 14, 2001 In a message dated 3/13/01 4:17:23 PM Eastern Standard Time, needlemedeep writes: Hi Todd- Subhuti Has an article on ALS in the Start group somewhere. If you Ca't find it let me know and I'll fax or E-M it to you. Chet Could someone direct me how to get access to this article? Thank you. Jeff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2001 Report Share Posted March 14, 2001 Try: http://www.itmonline.org/pdf/als.pdf Hi Todd- Subhuti Has an article on ALS in the Start group somewhere. If > > you Ca't find it let me know and I'll fax or E-M it to you. > > Chet > Could someone direct me how to get access to this article? Thank you. > Jeff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2007 Report Share Posted July 22, 2007 anyone has experience treating ALS? I would appreciate any feedback - Sunday, July 22, 2007 7:04 AM Acupuncture session time Hi All, My usual acupuncture (AP) session time varies: (a) between species, (b) between sessions and © depending on nature of presenting S & Ss and the response. (a) HORSES respond VERY fast to AP. Most of my horse AP is for sports injury (drop in athletic performance, myofascial pain, muscle spasm, " guarding " , etc. In these cases, needle retention time in a given point usually is 10 seconds to 2 minutes. If point-pressure sensitivity does not disappear within 2 minutes, I add further points until no points remain sensitive to pressure. My record for fastest session time averaged circa 13 minutes (7 horses diagnosed and treated in less than 90 minutes in one stable). More typically, however, my session time in horses is circa 10-20 minutes. DOGS: My typical session time in dogs (mainly for spinal / musculo-skeletal pain, performance problems, geriatric debility and some hormonal problems) is circa 30 minutes, including examination & AP Tx. One long-term client (coming for >25 years) has champion performance dogs that win at national and international shows. She brings 3 dogs each time for regular pre-competition " tune-ups " . She brings her husband sometimes. On a few occasions, I have examined and treated the 3 dogs + the owner (tension / hormonal problems / stress problems) + her husband (golfer's knee, shoulder & back problems & LV Qi Stag (heavy drinker)) in circa 1 hour. HUMANS: Typical session time (including examination & needle retention time) is 15-30 minutes. I usually retain needles for circa 10 minutes in dogs & people. In chronic problems, I usually retain needle for circa 20 minutes. In acute human cases (say acute (overnight) torticollis or lumbago), needling time is usually 30 seconds to 5 minutes, followed by quick (2-minute) massage with MOOV (Paras Pharmaceuticals, India) or Tiger Balm (?Thailand). (b) SESSION to SESSION differences: First visit usually takes longest time (gathering history, initial exam, etc). In humans, it usually is 20-40 minutes, sometimes more. © Depending on nature of presenting S & Ss and the response: complex cases (usually in humans) take longer to Dx & Tx than single-symptom cases. Chronic problems usually get longer session ( & needle retention) times. I would rarely spend >1 hour with any patient. On rare occasions when I used electro-acupuncture (in myself / friends) as an alternative to local or general anaesthetic for dental fillings / extractions, I usually stimulated for 20-40 minutes before start of procedure. Patient MUST pass pin-prick and deeper stab / tooth-rocking test before dental procedure can begin. Electro-stimulation continued at maximum tolerance through the procedure until the dentist was finished. Best regards, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2008 Report Share Posted April 24, 2008 Is there any one with experience treating ALS ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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